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Newbie still getting to grips with XDA-II

ok ive had my XDA-II now just over a month and loving it, upgraded from a symbian mobile history, ive pretty much got the phone sussed but i still have a few niggles which i would be most greatful if any one could help me
1. GPRS counter?? are there any freeware GPRS counters?? or am i missing the built in one??
2. is it possible to recieve SMS delivery reports on my XDA-II??
3. after sending an SMS i occasionally get the "Message Sent" box stuck at the top, just a pic of envelope which pressed brings it up, and the only way to loose it is a soft reset
4. Are there any applications that take advantage of the built in camera??
thats all i can thinki of at this instant
Most greatful for answer i can be provided with!!
Many thanks
Lee

For reports try putting *0# in the subject line.

In relation to the message sent envelope stuck on the top of the screen. If you close down the inbox application before the message sent indication is received it is stuck there until you do a soft reset. its a glitch in the software.
Steve

I found the envelope is caused by SPB's Pocket Plus closing the Inbox application. PP has a feature where the close button actually shuts down the application as opposed to minimising it in the case of deafult WM2003 behaviour.
Dave

yeah i had issues with plus terminating my applications too
i set it to minimize like default and use
PHM task manager
when i want to really close applications
it's a close of the task manager in windows and it's free

great stuff people!! thanks for your help, funnily nough i do have pocket plus installed!!! ill have to have a play with it

SMS Icon still there (after the sending confirmation)

Hi guys,
I have a confirmation after a SMS is sent. Telling me "the sms is sent"
and an enveloppe will show at the top of the XDA2 (the same enveloppe you got when you received an Email)
But the enveloppe Icon won't go?? Unless I do a reset???
If I get an SMS and I read the SMS, then the Icon will go away.
But in this case since this is just a confirmation, and there is no SMS to read. I can't get the icon to leave??
can someone help?
thank you

This happens to me as well from time to time...I think it has to do with if you come out of the Inbox applet a little too soon, or sometimes if you don't click on the envelope icon once it appears.
One of those annoying little things but I don't think it does any harm to your messages or anything. A soft reset always clears it for me.
Anthony

same here with ruu172104wwe on O2 XDAII, does happen 3-4 times a week, soft reset will wash the taskbar..

same here
Exactly as Anton says (same on XDAI). If you send an SMS message and exit the INBOX too quickly, the "sent" envelope gets stuck.
It's a bug! :roll:

never happent to me but i have heard that people with pocket plus who have not removed the option where it really do close applications insted of just minimizing them having this problem

Thank you
thank you
I was thinking I'm the only one.
Have a nice week-end
Nicolas

My problem is even worst! Sometimes, when I send an sms the small box-icon remains there and if I tap on it,..the beneficiary gets another sms once again!!
I have Spb Poket Plus & Spb Full Screen keyboard installed. Maybe it's due to those software!

iv been getting this with my m1000
and wadda ya kno.... iv got pocket plus running with the "close" option bit....

well if you got pocket plus
and do use the REAL close option
cant you just wait untill the sms is sent before
you close outlook
imho then the real close option is a bit of a problem
because ms never ment programs to be closed that way / at all

Hi there,...I contacted Sbp software and explain the problem,... I disabilited the "really close option" and the problem never appears. ... I close applications manually.
That's all folks

i dont really see it as sbp's problem but more as outlooks problem
if their request to send get messed up because of the sender being killed it's not really sbp's problem it's the way outlook is
of cause one may think it odd that sbp make their closing the default option

For Rudegar
Of course you are right! it's not sbp's problem. I immediately supposed it's an outlook problem. I really hope future versions of outlook would consider this fact. But the important for me was to stop SMS problems. Disallowing "close all" option solved it. And for me (and I think other people having this problem) it's more than acceptable.

sms icon
You need to add tmail.exe to the programs the Plus 2.0 marks as exceptions.
you need to open your inbox,then open Options of Plus 2.0 and add in the exceptions the last program opened(in this case the sms program which you opened...tmail.exe)
that should do it

It seems to be working fine!! many thanks jokz23!!

thank you very much

It seemed working fine,...
After my previous post, I added tmail.exe as exception,... The application didn't close. Good, I sent an sms. the icon didn't froze,...but my girlfriend got -3- sms
I think we only have to renounce "really close" function.

phone off (flight mode - ON) SMS Issues

i usually turn on the flight mode at night, meaning the phone is off, my concern is, when somebody sent me sms while the phone is off, after turning ON the phone (flight mode-OFF) i still do not receive the sms sent ...
i should still be receiving the sms after turning ON the phone, right?
is there any setting in the xda2 to configure? or is it network dependent?
thanks.

Yes you should receive any outstanding sms messages,. I cant find any settings that address this in the inbox. I know that when using a Nokia phone I would switch it on and sometimes recive 4 or 5 messages that were sent when the phone was off, however now that you have mentioned it I cant recall ever receiving any pending sms when switching on the xda or xda 2. Maybe somebody else knows the problem or procedure with sms. I assumed that the message was broadcast once if the recipient was online but placed in pending on the system if phone was off, if that is the case I wonder what happens to the sms received while phone is off if we arent getting them when switching on.

i would say this is a problem with your mobile service provider.. if the phone aerial is off, the phone company holds the sms until the phone registers itself on the network again, it shouldn't have anything to do with the phone

More than one SMS sent every sending message
Guyz i got sms issue 2. But my version is everytime i send one message 2 the recipient. The recipient will get 2 or 3 messages from me. I've cross checked with another phone, and find out that it isn't operator issue. I think it has something 2 do with the radio version or protocol version of the WM2003SE ROM. Coz before i upgraded, everything just seems fine. Any help would be appreciated.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Are you using SPB Pocket Plus or another app that really closes a program when you press the x? The problem you describe is normally encountered when you close the messaging app ( really close it, not minimize it) before you get the pop-up that the message was sent. If you close the program before you get that message, the messaging app thinks the sms is not sent and resents it, 2 or three times. To evade this, just add tmail.exe ( for T-Mobile branded units, for other branding just add the name of the message app for that unit) to the exceptions list in Pocket Plus or any other program you use to close programs. Then the notification that the message is sent will appear normally on your screen and the device nows that the message is sent. Remember that the messaging app is minimized instead of closed when you do this, so be sure to close the app through start-settings-memory to avoid it staying loaded in your RAM.
For SPB Pocket Plus, go into the SPB options, click on Close Button, feature options, and add the program to your exceptions list.

Koksie said:
Are you using SPB Pocket Plus or another app that really closes a program when you press the x? The problem you describe is normally encountered when you close the messaging app ( really close it, not minimize it) before you get the pop-up that the message was sent. If you close the program before you get that message, the messaging app thinks the sms is not sent and resents it, 2 or three times. To evade this, just add tmail.exe ( for T-Mobile branded units, for other branding just add the name of the message app for that unit) to the exceptions list in Pocket Plus or any other program you use to close programs. Then the notification that the message is sent will appear normally on your screen and the device nows that the message is sent. Remember that the messaging app is minimized instead of closed when you do this, so be sure to close the app through start-settings-memory to avoid it staying loaded in your RAM.
For SPB Pocket Plus, go into the SPB options, click on Close Button, feature options, and add the program to your exceptions list.
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Yes, i use SPB Pocket Plus. Thx 4 d solution. I really appreciated. I'll try this soon.

You are welcome! BTW, I just tested it, and when I turn on fliht mode, my sms-es are qeued untill I switch flight mode off. Then I receive the queued sms-es on my Magician. If this does not work on a phone, I guess this is a problem with the provider.

SMS get sent twice

I've got an XDA Mini S on the O2 network, and people keep telling me that they are receiving my texts twice :?
Does anyone know why this is, or how I can fix it?

Hi Gazhowell
I had the same problem with mine on O2. Found the problem to be SPBpocket plus on the phone! Try not to close the text messages window until you get the message sent confirmation.
I was closing it just as it had sent so when i opened it again it would send again without a notification!
Hope this helps.

Blimey that was a quick reply
I do have spb so I'll try your suggestiong about keeping the window open. Thinking about it now I have been quickly closing it before waiting for the sent confirmation.
Seems an annoying little bug though.

It is not a bug. SMS just cannot be closed while sending. Try to add tmail.exe into hidding (not really closing) apps [in close settings in spb].
In my point of wiev on pda's with phone Contacts and Messages should be hidden, not closed. It speed up opening a lot. While using phone this two features are used most.

savac said:
It is not a bug. SMS just cannot be closed while sending. Try to add tmail.exe into hidding (not really closing) apps [in close settings in spb].
In my point of wiev on pda's with phone Contacts and Messages should be hidden, not closed. It speed up opening a lot. While using phone this two features are used most.
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Thanks for that - I'll give it a try

Yeh i found the same issue when i was closing it too quick!!
give it a shot and let us know how it goes.
Savac has a good point actually. it really should be set to hide as opposed to close that would cure the problem.
good luck!

sms twice
i also had the same problem but didnt have spb installed then so it isnt that that is causing this problem i just wait too till see confirmation message

SMS TWICE
Any suggestion ? Maybe any tweaks or reg modifications ? I wait for confirmation about sms sent, but after wakeup my wizard sending sms second time anyway .

Easy fix don't use Spb Plus

This not only goes for SPB Plus, but for every task manager that really closes apps instead of minimizing them like the standard Wm5 behaviour. They all close the tmail.exe too soon, thereby causing the app to think that the sms was not send and sending it again. Just wait for the "message sent"pop-up before you close the messaging app and you should be fine. Alternatively, you can make an exception in your task manager that tmail.exe is not really closed but only minimized. That also works of course.

List of all problems with HTC messaging on Leo - please add any of your own

Dear all
bought my HD2 sim-free and have been using it for 1-2 days now.
it is manila 2.5.19211619.0 & rom 1.48.405.2 (71294)WWE
while we wait for HTC to allow us to use our GBP500 handsets to send SMS reliably, I thought I'd compile a list of other problems with the new HTC messaging interface - perhaps if anybody from HTC is reading, they could use it as a sort of wish-list. Feel free to add your own woes.
also, if anybody knows any fixes for the behaviour i am reporting here - please let me know!!
1. It sometimes doesn't send SMS (well-known issue, sure - texting myself seems to do the trick so far but hardly ideal to have to check outbox every half hour)
2. It cannot mark received/read SMS as unread (if i'm wrong here, please let me know)
3. it is difficult to select a whole bunch of messages - you ought to be able to hold down and drag to select, say, adjacent 5 messages in the "all msgs" view, in order to then action them (eg. retry send ! )
4. in all messages view, the side-scrolling bar does not enlarge itself after a short tap, unlike in eg. file explorer.
5. when you are composing a new SMS, as you start typing letters of somebody's name, some of the contact suggestions are associated with that person's mobile number (as expected) whereas other contacts are suggested with their *email address* (even when you have the mobile number for that contact) so that it tries to send the SMS to that person's email address. Not very clever. if anybody knows how to fix this please let me know.
6. if you use PIM backup to restore eg. 500 SMS, you may mysteriously find the following day that many of them have disappeared. spooky.
7. it (HTC messaging) is so arrogant that it provides no easy way for the user to revert to WM SMS program. not very "make it mine" is it HTC?
8. (thanks to DavrosMackenzie below for reminding me) what a WEIRD bug - when you attempt to put a ! or ? at the end of your cursor when composing SMS, the cursor reverts to a random point in the message and your punctuation mark is in the middle of some random word.
UPDATE: I have sent the above 8 items to HTC support via email on their website.
9. there is no "SMS sent" notification as there was in eg. WM5.0

Largely speaking I only see 7) as the issue. If the Windows messaging app were easily available then you'd simply be able to choose between a flawless functional app versus stylish but primitive.
However personally I still haven't found a way to revert the the Windows messenger app, all the methods I've found here on the forum fail to work fully. So then I guess I'm stuck too with the other points mentioned. It's all ostly minor to me except 1) of course. If I need to any more complicated message organizing I just do it through the MS My Phone web interface and sync.
Also 4) is a feature not a bug The expanding scroll bars are only for the default native controls which need to be dragged themselves, hence the expanding button for easy finger usage. The HTC scrollbar doesn't need that as the whole screen reacts to a sliding finger for scrolling the view.
The inconsistency is a bit odd I suppose but that's what happens when your on an evolved platform rather than a new one.

thanks for the LIST, have you send it to HTC yet?
I have been bugging them about the SMS stuck in outbox issue every 2nd day ...
you also missed out the SLOW loading SMS while there are more than 20 sms-s in coversation view.~

hmm...for me its the no. 4 which is a bit irritating but i can live with it...since in my case it shows both the number as well the email for the same name...
btw...i know this works for some people and for some dont, but messaging problem seems to go away if you select
1. GSM in messaging
2. put the local mesaging centre number...
havent faceda any sms problem till now...

Instead of using pim backup you should use the sync application microsoft my phone....

Lag when opening messages, we all know about that though.
This one i've only seen one other person mention and thats when i come to put a ! or ? at the end the cursor jumps to some random point in the message, basically means i have proof read every damn message and its starting to really annoy me.
I've an un-branded Vodaphone device thanks to mobiles.co.uk and have upgraded the ROM from the 1.43 through to 1.61 and this nagging little bug has been present in all.
The predictive text has become alot better, to the point now where i can write txts much quicker but the other problems make txtsing a nightmare compared to the iPhone.
I was so pissed off with the iPhone by the end of my run with it but it could text like a dream compared with this, i miss my apps sure but if the texting would work on the HD2 i wouldn't be considering moving back!
Not giving up yet though, will wait for a few more ROMS to come out and maybe HardSPL.

uccoffee said:
thanks for the LIST, have you send it to HTC yet?
I have been bugging them about the SMS stuck in outbox issue every 2nd day ...
you also missed out the SLOW loading SMS while there are more than 20 sms-s in coversation view.~
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the slow sms loading buggs me. i have alot of text messages with my girl and It's annoying to everytime wait a minnit or so. also if you push the soft key menu and wait a second It's loads alot faster.
you may aspect from htc with a phone that costs a fortune it would be near perfect. but this one is nearly done. and dont come with the excuse that no phone is good out of the box, i know that but after al the tweaking i have done to this phone im getting the hang of it. but there are more bugs that anoy me.
1 slow downs in the sense interface.
2. the jittering of the keyboard.
3. the ghost typed key issue
4. and all the minor things what are to many to name.
well htc thank-you for this wonderfull phone. now make it mine.....
btw, could someone tell me where i can find the outbox for the sms utility?

Prom1se said:
the slow sms loading buggs me. i have alot of text messages with my girl and It's annoying to everytime wait a minnit or so. also if you push the soft key menu and wait a second It's loads alot faster.
you may aspect from htc with a phone that costs a fortune it would be near perfect. but this one is nearly done. and dont come with the excuse that no phone is good out of the box, i know that but after al the tweaking i have done to this phone im getting the hang of it. but there are more bugs that anoy me.
1 slow downs in the sense interface.
2. the jittering of the keyboard.
3. the ghost typed key issue
4. and all the minor things what are to many to name.
well htc thank-you for this wonderfull phone. now make it mine.....
btw, could someone tell me where i can find the outbox for the sms utility?
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To view your outbox, you need to have SMS in traditional mode.
Go to: All mesages > Menu > Settings > Traditional Mode.
Has anyone found a fix for this fundamental function of any phone. And we all know this is not a problem with WM6.5 as alot of us have been using 6.5 for some time (myself on my polaris, using Kostas ROM), so therefore HTC really F#@K this up.

I have another one, the sms notification sound almost never gets activated... I am on 1.43 O2.

Most of the time I have to click "compose new text" when in converstional mode at least 10 times before it actually lets my type! It doesn't matter how many messages I have with that contact so isn't a lag thing!

blackheart2925 said:
hmm...for me its the no. 4 which is a bit irritating but i can live with it...since in my case it shows both the number as well the email for the same name...
btw...i know this works for some people and for some dont, but messaging problem seems to go away if you select
1. GSM in messaging
2. put the local mesaging centre number...
havent faceda any sms problem till now...
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I got GSM in messaging, and +xxx in the messaging number.
But I still get SMS stuck in outbox every couple of days ...

HTC Messaging is not working with MMS to email. The pictures doesn't have a last name (extension), and will not be reconiced as an .jpg, and therefore not show in correctly.
Larsen

When I create an SMS and enter the first few letters of a contacts name, all available phone numbers for that person are listed. However, the icons indicating the type of contact number (work, mobile, home, etc.) are incorrect. All are displayed as mobile so I do not know which is the actual mobile number and which are the others. Is this the same for everyone else? I've reflashed to 1.48 and installed the SMS patch from HTC.