Hi guys,
I have a confirmation after a SMS is sent. Telling me "the sms is sent"
and an enveloppe will show at the top of the XDA2 (the same enveloppe you got when you received an Email)
But the enveloppe Icon won't go?? Unless I do a reset???
If I get an SMS and I read the SMS, then the Icon will go away.
But in this case since this is just a confirmation, and there is no SMS to read. I can't get the icon to leave??
can someone help?
thank you
This happens to me as well from time to time...I think it has to do with if you come out of the Inbox applet a little too soon, or sometimes if you don't click on the envelope icon once it appears.
One of those annoying little things but I don't think it does any harm to your messages or anything. A soft reset always clears it for me.
Anthony
same here with ruu172104wwe on O2 XDAII, does happen 3-4 times a week, soft reset will wash the taskbar..
same here
Exactly as Anton says (same on XDAI). If you send an SMS message and exit the INBOX too quickly, the "sent" envelope gets stuck.
It's a bug! :roll:
never happent to me but i have heard that people with pocket plus who have not removed the option where it really do close applications insted of just minimizing them having this problem
Thank you
thank you
I was thinking I'm the only one.
Have a nice week-end
Nicolas
My problem is even worst! Sometimes, when I send an sms the small box-icon remains there and if I tap on it,..the beneficiary gets another sms once again!!
I have Spb Poket Plus & Spb Full Screen keyboard installed. Maybe it's due to those software!
iv been getting this with my m1000
and wadda ya kno.... iv got pocket plus running with the "close" option bit....
well if you got pocket plus
and do use the REAL close option
cant you just wait untill the sms is sent before
you close outlook
imho then the real close option is a bit of a problem
because ms never ment programs to be closed that way / at all
Hi there,...I contacted Sbp software and explain the problem,... I disabilited the "really close option" and the problem never appears. ... I close applications manually.
That's all folks
i dont really see it as sbp's problem but more as outlooks problem
if their request to send get messed up because of the sender being killed it's not really sbp's problem it's the way outlook is
of cause one may think it odd that sbp make their closing the default option
For Rudegar
Of course you are right! it's not sbp's problem. I immediately supposed it's an outlook problem. I really hope future versions of outlook would consider this fact. But the important for me was to stop SMS problems. Disallowing "close all" option solved it. And for me (and I think other people having this problem) it's more than acceptable.
sms icon
You need to add tmail.exe to the programs the Plus 2.0 marks as exceptions.
you need to open your inbox,then open Options of Plus 2.0 and add in the exceptions the last program opened(in this case the sms program which you opened...tmail.exe)
that should do it
It seems to be working fine!! many thanks jokz23!!
thank you very much
It seemed working fine,...
After my previous post, I added tmail.exe as exception,... The application didn't close. Good, I sent an sms. the icon didn't froze,...but my girlfriend got -3- sms
I think we only have to renounce "really close" function.
Related
ok ive had my XDA-II now just over a month and loving it, upgraded from a symbian mobile history, ive pretty much got the phone sussed but i still have a few niggles which i would be most greatful if any one could help me
1. GPRS counter?? are there any freeware GPRS counters?? or am i missing the built in one??
2. is it possible to recieve SMS delivery reports on my XDA-II??
3. after sending an SMS i occasionally get the "Message Sent" box stuck at the top, just a pic of envelope which pressed brings it up, and the only way to loose it is a soft reset
4. Are there any applications that take advantage of the built in camera??
thats all i can thinki of at this instant
Most greatful for answer i can be provided with!!
Many thanks
Lee
For reports try putting *0# in the subject line.
In relation to the message sent envelope stuck on the top of the screen. If you close down the inbox application before the message sent indication is received it is stuck there until you do a soft reset. its a glitch in the software.
Steve
I found the envelope is caused by SPB's Pocket Plus closing the Inbox application. PP has a feature where the close button actually shuts down the application as opposed to minimising it in the case of deafult WM2003 behaviour.
Dave
yeah i had issues with plus terminating my applications too
i set it to minimize like default and use
PHM task manager
when i want to really close applications
it's a close of the task manager in windows and it's free
great stuff people!! thanks for your help, funnily nough i do have pocket plus installed!!! ill have to have a play with it
ever since i've upgraded mine to WM2003SE, my friends are complaining about how they receive the same message twice every after 10 minutes...is it the software? or my service provider? any help would be much appreciated...thanks. :lol:
i have te exact same problem....
Can anyone help.....
I gues you both are using "Pocket Plus" software, you have to disable the "close" feature, or at least, execlude "Outlook" from the the "close" feature so when you next time send SMS, it goes as one time, not dublicate!!
Hope this helps.
this thing also happens to me, my receipients complain that i send the message more than once (even up to 10x!)
i tried diabling the "close" function of SPB Pocket Plus. hope this works
what i did and works so far is i don't t tauch anything on the screen antil i ge the ''message send'' bubble, by doing anithing else the messages get to be send twice!
known bug...
What you experience is a well known bug in Windows' way to send SMSs:
The only "workaround" is to wait a few seconds after pressing the "send"-button until the bubble "message sent" comes up, just as chlouk wrote.
If you close the messages app before the bubble comes up, your SMS will be sent twice - only MS knows why...
Greetings,
BGK
Just exclude the tmail.exe from the close button feature of pocket plus. It'll fix the problem.
you are soooo right.....
it's fixed!
Thanx man... :lol:
no prob.. btw look for the tmail.exe in windows folder.
it's been nearly 2 months since i last posted this, n checked it only just now. :lol: my problem was solved a month ago by uninstalling SPB pocketplus...i'm reinstalling. thanks much for the help!
I have exactly the same problem only when I send a sms while I am talking on the phone.
every time i send a short text message, it deducts 48p off my balance instead of 12p.
POS!
whats wrong with it ?
are you using pocket plus or other programs which really close applications insted of the normal minimize ?
Same for me : Text messages are sent twice !!!
Doesn't really bother me as I don't have to pay for it anyway (thx a lot, boss ) but it is pretty annoying for the recipient
Using the default SMS-programm (Messaging) on my BA with WM2003 SE
There is a bug when sending txts that I found. Look at the characters and pages. For some reason if you use T9 and it auto punctuates more than once (sometimes just the once) it will shorten the txt message to half therefore sends 2 or more. It's stupid but just keep an eye on the counter and manually remove punctuation e.g, there's to theres and it will be fine... I only found this out after months of double and triple txt messaging charges.
Thx a lot for the feedbacl, although the problem/issue I'm facing is slightly different as I'm not using T9 and the message is not being split up.
It is exactly the same message that is being sent twice
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There is a bug when sending txts that I found. Look at the characters and pages. For some reason if you use T9 and it auto punctuates more than once (sometimes just the once) it will shorten the txt message to half therefore sends 2 or more.
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That's no bug.
SMS are shortened whenever the phone switches to unicode (which is necessary for using some unconventional characters)
But the Qtek devices show clearly how many chars can be sent in one SMS and even how many SMS will be sent.
Simply watch the counter at the bottom before sending an SMS and avoid characters demanding unicode.
Sascha
okay. will do.
cheers.
rite...
Well im using the 02 300 free texts and mine gets sent 3-4 times. even thou i avoid using T9 and Unicode characters (annoys me) but i donno why, is there a solution to it. cheers :?
Re: rite...
dj_factor said:
Well im using the 02 300 free texts and mine gets sent 3-4 times. even thou i avoid using T9 and Unicode characters
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Does O2 deliver the same SMS 3-4 times to the recipient or do they "split" the message into 3-4 messages.
In the latter case, you are definitely using unicode characters.
In the first case you should contact your provider.
And don't forget: watch the counter before sending.
Sascha
Double txt messages
Hi,
I am getting the smae problem every message I send is getting sent twice from the XDAII.
Doesnt matter if the txt is <160 chars or multiple messages.
The receiving device receives the message.
Then sometimes (NOT ALL THE TIME) it will send a duplicate message.
Usually (but again not all the time) the duplicate is sent later when the XDA is used again, after turning it back on.
Any one any clues?
It does run PocketNav as a task switcher/killer and I am going to diable it to check this as a cause.
Thanks in advance
This is a bug from spb Pocket plus when closing the SMS application while message is still sending, try not to close the SMS app while message is still sending.
me too...me too....while using XDA II sending msg, receipient get 2 msgs...i m using spb pocket plus and some chinese translation software...which is the cause of the problem?.. :roll:
The cause is 'tmail.exe'. If you are using spb Pocket Plus you need to do the following:
1. Tab on Start, Settings
2. Select System to launch Spb Pocket Plus
3. Tab on the Features Options that will bring you to Close Button panel.
4. Tab on Exceptions that will show you a panel 'Listed programs will always be minimized when tap the X button'
5. Tab on the ADD button and a pop-up box will display. Then select tab on the Browse.
6. A panel will be displayed showing all the directories. Then tab on the '+' sign of the Windows Directory to expand it.
7. Scroll down till you find a program 'tmail.exe' and tab on it to select it.
8. Lastly, tab on the OK button and it will bring you back to the Close Button panel. In the box it will showed that you have selectet the 'tmail.exe'. Then tab on the OK button on the top right corner.
9. That's all. It should work. On a safe side do a Soft Reset.
You won't have mail sending twice and you will be prompted immediately when the is an incoming mail.
:wink:
:lol: Thankz a dozen WillyBilly...it is very detail!! Thankz again!!! :lol:
It helps.......
then4ag said:
:lol: Thankz a dozen WillyBilly...it is very detail!! Thankz again!!! :lol:
It helps.......
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Great.....good to hear that......
Also that problem without Spb Pocket Plus installed
Hi y'all. I have an IMate Jam PM10A (former T-Mobile MDA) and I'm having the same problems. My sms messages are delivered twice, the 1st immidiatly, the 2nd sometimes an hour later. I do not have SpB Pocket Plus Installed, here is what i do have installed:
# Xvid Codec
# Smart Movie Lonely Cat
# IRemote Majeres
# Windows Theme Switch Today
# Pocketmind Pocketmusic
# Virtual Display Nyditot
# Resco Explorerer 2003
# Wisbar Advance
# Laridan Pocketbible
# Todayinfo Lou Terailloune
# Calendarplus Mohairsofa
Could the Wisbar Advance be the problem=
V-Bar
I'm sending multiple sms as well
Im not using pocket plus but i do use the T9 autocomplete so will turn that off and see, think i do send small multiple sms as well, also i use V-Bar which closes applications so i have removed that and will see if anymore ppl complain about me spamming the multiple sms
Anyone got any idea if any of the following problems cause conflicts in a similar way to pocket plus
pocketxpdf
smartflash
genocide device status on today
pocketmind pocketmusic
david andres battii
art in code screen switch
vbar
bartek
Poket Plus ?? Multiple texts
Rudegar said:
are you using pocket plus or other programs which really close applications insted of the normal minimize ?
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Hi Rudegar,
You mentioned - POCKET PLUS to other user ...
Both my XDA IIi and my wife's XDA mini-s send same message multiple times. I will always receive the message immediately and then again when my wife 'activates' her phone in some way, and vice-versa.
We both use Pocket Plus - Is this the cause. I have been stripping away third party software for amateur developers but I reckoned Pocket Plus seemed 'safe'
Tony - [O2 ireland network]
pocket plus have an option which terminate (really close application rather then minimize them) when people press the X
this is as far as i know useless and a wish people comming from windows on pc like because they dont know that win ce automaticly close unused applications when it require the memory those applications is using
so one can safely turn off that "real" close of application unless one get serious slowdowns from using applications which eat alot of mem
otherwise excluding outlook from the "real" close option is a way to avoid it
or to not close outlook with the x before one gets the msg is sendt icon on the title bar of
Thank You
Thank you Rudegar,
I was fairly sure I had replied to your very helpful post when indeed I hadn't - So, Thanks again, your help pointed me in the right direction to sort my problem!
I've got an XDA Mini S on the O2 network, and people keep telling me that they are receiving my texts twice :?
Does anyone know why this is, or how I can fix it?
Hi Gazhowell
I had the same problem with mine on O2. Found the problem to be SPBpocket plus on the phone! Try not to close the text messages window until you get the message sent confirmation.
I was closing it just as it had sent so when i opened it again it would send again without a notification!
Hope this helps.
Blimey that was a quick reply
I do have spb so I'll try your suggestiong about keeping the window open. Thinking about it now I have been quickly closing it before waiting for the sent confirmation.
Seems an annoying little bug though.
It is not a bug. SMS just cannot be closed while sending. Try to add tmail.exe into hidding (not really closing) apps [in close settings in spb].
In my point of wiev on pda's with phone Contacts and Messages should be hidden, not closed. It speed up opening a lot. While using phone this two features are used most.
savac said:
It is not a bug. SMS just cannot be closed while sending. Try to add tmail.exe into hidding (not really closing) apps [in close settings in spb].
In my point of wiev on pda's with phone Contacts and Messages should be hidden, not closed. It speed up opening a lot. While using phone this two features are used most.
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Thanks for that - I'll give it a try
Yeh i found the same issue when i was closing it too quick!!
give it a shot and let us know how it goes.
Savac has a good point actually. it really should be set to hide as opposed to close that would cure the problem.
good luck!
sms twice
i also had the same problem but didnt have spb installed then so it isnt that that is causing this problem i just wait too till see confirmation message
SMS TWICE
Any suggestion ? Maybe any tweaks or reg modifications ? I wait for confirmation about sms sent, but after wakeup my wizard sending sms second time anyway .
Easy fix don't use Spb Plus
This not only goes for SPB Plus, but for every task manager that really closes apps instead of minimizing them like the standard Wm5 behaviour. They all close the tmail.exe too soon, thereby causing the app to think that the sms was not send and sending it again. Just wait for the "message sent"pop-up before you close the messaging app and you should be fine. Alternatively, you can make an exception in your task manager that tmail.exe is not really closed but only minimized. That also works of course.
hey guys,
ive always had a few bugs with this HD2 (some seem pretty common, and tolerable/fixable)... but lately ive been having so pretty frustrating problems, causing me to soft reset 10+ times a day.
ill try list these issues and describe them accurately, and if anyone has any suggestion on ways to resolve them... i would greatly appreciate the help.
- often freezes when trying to send SMS messages. i use Zenyee's sms patch, to allow my to use the WINMO client. what usually happens is, i can select to create a new SMS, type the SMS all without hassle... but as soon as i hit the send button (bottom left softkey)... i get the windows loading animation (4 coloured dots circling in center of screen), and thats where is freezes, i have given the phone hours to 'load' and complete the SMS send operation... but it jsut sits there.. loading.
- i have another common issue relating to SMS. it seems the HD2 cannot recognise when i have read an SMS. i receive a new SMS, i open, read, and sometimes delete the new SMS... but sense still displays the 'unread' icon on the slide-bar. S2U2 also is still seeing an unread SMS... but there is no unread SMS. this happens 95% of the time when i receive and SMS. i have to reset to get rid of this notification OR if i reply to this new SMS... once i have dismissed the "message sent' notification, the phone recognises the fact i have no unread SMS.
- quite often i cannot wake my phone up from being asleep, this also seems to happen only when i receive a new SMS. i get the flashing LED (at ear speaker) letting me know i have an unread SMS/call/etc, but upon hitting the hardware buttons to wake phone up... i get no response.
- there are also a few occasions where i dont receive any SMS at all, over the last few days... ive had quite a few people call me and ask if i received the SMS they have sent me. i have also tested this myself, sent myseld about half a dozen test SMS with out receiving any of them. i am still receiving some messages, but there are also quite a few that i am not getting. this issue could be caused by my network provider, thought id mention it anyway.
it seems that most of these issues are SMS related. i did have quite a few texts in my inbox and sent items box (around 1500), but i have deleted many of them and am now down to around 300, and im still having problems.
so... if anyone has any suggestions to resolve these issues... i welcome the advice. before i resort to hard reset.
cheers guys.
[email protected] said:
hey guys,
ive always had a few bugs with this HD2 (some seem pretty common, and tolerable/fixable)... but lately ive been having so pretty frustrating problems, causing me to soft reset 10+ times a day.
ill try list these issues and describe them accurately, and if anyone has any suggestion on ways to resolve them... i would greatly appreciate the help.
- often freezes when trying to send SMS messages. i use Zenyee's sms patch, to allow my to use the WINMO client. what usually happens is, i can select to create a new SMS, type the SMS all without hassle... but as soon as i hit the send button (bottom left softkey)... i get the windows loading animation (4 coloured dots circling in center of screen), and thats where is freezes, i have given the phone hours to 'load' and complete the SMS send operation... but it jsut sits there.. loading.
- i have another common issue relating to SMS. it seems the HD2 cannot recognise when i have read an SMS. i receive a new SMS, i open, read, and sometimes delete the new SMS... but sense still displays the 'unread' icon on the slide-bar. S2U2 also is still seeing an unread SMS... but there is no unread SMS. this happens 95% of the time when i receive and SMS. i have to reset to get rid of this notification OR if i reply to this new SMS... once i have dismissed the "message sent' notification, the phone recognises the fact i have no unread SMS.
- quite often i cannot wake my phone up from being asleep, this also seems to happen only when i receive a new SMS. i get the flashing LED (at ear speaker) letting me know i have an unread SMS/call/etc, but upon hitting the hardware buttons to wake phone up... i get no response.
- there are also a few occasions where i dont receive any SMS at all, over the last few days... ive had quite a few people call me and ask if i received the SMS they have sent me. i have also tested this myself, sent myseld about half a dozen test SMS with out receiving any of them. i am still receiving some messages, but there are also quite a few that i am not getting. this issue could be caused by my network provider, thought id mention it anyway.
it seems that most of these issues are SMS related. i did have quite a few texts in my inbox and sent items box (around 1500), but i have deleted many of them and am now down to around 300, and im still having problems.
so... if anyone has any suggestions to resolve these issues... i welcome the advice. before i resort to hard reset.
cheers guys.
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sorry i do not experience this problem at all and i believe this is uncommon. there is a new sms function update hotfix posted by HTC couple of days back. this updates the messenging client to 2016. try it.
did you try uninstalling your sms cab that you are using and trying that for a few days to see if you still get the freezes? If you are stock you should try the previous posters suggestion and update your ROM and try it without the sms cab and see how it goes.
thanks for the tips guys, ill have a look at the hotfixes. with the telstra ROM i have, i can use the HTC SMS client without the major lag issues - but i still prefer the WINMO client for the folder support and other functions that are absent in the HTC client.
ill check out your suggestions, and let you know how it goes.
cheers again for taking the time to read and reply.
after looking at the htc site, i have noticed that the new SMS hotfix only applies to ROM versions less than 1.66.
that suggests my current ROM may already have these fixes applied.
http://www.htc.com/au/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=0&dl_id=812
cheers for the help though.
[email protected] said:
after looking at the htc site, i have noticed that the new SMS hotfix only applies to ROM versions less than 1.66.
that suggests my current ROM may already have these fixes applied.
http://www.htc.com/au/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=0&dl_id=812
cheers for the help though.
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i'm running 1.66 ROM and is still able to install. I still think there is no harm downloading and try installing the hotfix. if it says unable to install, so be it. =)
fair call, im downloading it now. will certainly let you know how it goes.
thanks mate.
I installed HTC's SMS hotfix, and it seems they have increased the folder support in their SMS client. previously... from what i can remember, they had only a few SMS folders visible in their client, i think it was 'inbox', 'sent' and 'drafts'. now they have increased this and added 'outbox' and 'deleted items'.
anyway, this newer version of the HTC SMS client is much more usable than previous incarnations of this client.
and having removed zenyees SMS patch... i have had no repeat offences of any of the above listed issues. it has only been 12 hours-ish... but it is looking good so far.
the only problem i have now with the HTC SMS client is the integration with S2U2 (SMS slide to view defaults to conversation mode in the HTC client - i would prefer traditional mode). and also there is a text selection issue in the new message screen. i use the swype SIP and i frequently need to fix up my incorrect word inputs, in the WINMO client, this was easy (double tap the word, the select the correct word from the word suggestion list), however... in the HTC SMS client... double tapping does not select text, sometimes if i tap 4 times i can select the word and promt swype's word suggestion list to appear... but not always).
but these issues with HTC's SMS client are far more tolerable than the problems i was experiencing with the WINMO client.
thanks for all your help guys.
i will keep you posted on further developments.
cheers.
Glad that the hotfix helps in one way or another. On the other hand, now we all knows this hotfix doesn't actually limit to ROM 1.66 and below.
it does seem to increase to functionality of the HTC SMS client. but between 1 ROM upgrade and almost never using the HTC client... i cannot be 100% sure that these new 'features' are infact new. i know the 1.6X telstra ROM had a pretty weak HTC SMS client, and they did improve it alot for the 1.7X ROM - lessened the lag, and a few other fixes. after i upgraded to the 1.7X ROM, i still used the SMS patch to have the WINMO client as my default... so i never payed to much attention to that version of the HTC SMS client.
as i posted above, i have now noticed the improved folder support in the HTC SMS client... but i cant be 100% sure that this is a result of the 1.7X ROM upgrade... of the SMS hotfix. though i do think it was the hotfix, and the hotfix certainly did install without issue.
so if anyone else is using the latest telstra stock ROM.... what is the HTC SMS client like? enhanced folder support? less lag?
cheers again.