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SMS Icon still there (after the sending confirmation)

Hi guys,
I have a confirmation after a SMS is sent. Telling me "the sms is sent"
and an enveloppe will show at the top of the XDA2 (the same enveloppe you got when you received an Email)
But the enveloppe Icon won't go?? Unless I do a reset???
If I get an SMS and I read the SMS, then the Icon will go away.
But in this case since this is just a confirmation, and there is no SMS to read. I can't get the icon to leave??
can someone help?
thank you

This happens to me as well from time to time...I think it has to do with if you come out of the Inbox applet a little too soon, or sometimes if you don't click on the envelope icon once it appears.
One of those annoying little things but I don't think it does any harm to your messages or anything. A soft reset always clears it for me.
Anthony

same here with ruu172104wwe on O2 XDAII, does happen 3-4 times a week, soft reset will wash the taskbar..

same here
Exactly as Anton says (same on XDAI). If you send an SMS message and exit the INBOX too quickly, the "sent" envelope gets stuck.
It's a bug! :roll:

never happent to me but i have heard that people with pocket plus who have not removed the option where it really do close applications insted of just minimizing them having this problem

Thank you
thank you
I was thinking I'm the only one.
Have a nice week-end
Nicolas

My problem is even worst! Sometimes, when I send an sms the small box-icon remains there and if I tap on it,..the beneficiary gets another sms once again!!
I have Spb Poket Plus & Spb Full Screen keyboard installed. Maybe it's due to those software!

iv been getting this with my m1000
and wadda ya kno.... iv got pocket plus running with the "close" option bit....

well if you got pocket plus
and do use the REAL close option
cant you just wait untill the sms is sent before
you close outlook
imho then the real close option is a bit of a problem
because ms never ment programs to be closed that way / at all

Hi there,...I contacted Sbp software and explain the problem,... I disabilited the "really close option" and the problem never appears. ... I close applications manually.
That's all folks

i dont really see it as sbp's problem but more as outlooks problem
if their request to send get messed up because of the sender being killed it's not really sbp's problem it's the way outlook is
of cause one may think it odd that sbp make their closing the default option

For Rudegar
Of course you are right! it's not sbp's problem. I immediately supposed it's an outlook problem. I really hope future versions of outlook would consider this fact. But the important for me was to stop SMS problems. Disallowing "close all" option solved it. And for me (and I think other people having this problem) it's more than acceptable.

sms icon
You need to add tmail.exe to the programs the Plus 2.0 marks as exceptions.
you need to open your inbox,then open Options of Plus 2.0 and add in the exceptions the last program opened(in this case the sms program which you opened...tmail.exe)
that should do it

It seems to be working fine!! many thanks jokz23!!

thank you very much

It seemed working fine,...
After my previous post, I added tmail.exe as exception,... The application didn't close. Good, I sent an sms. the icon didn't froze,...but my girlfriend got -3- sms
I think we only have to renounce "really close" function.

SMS sending with XDA II

ever since i've upgraded mine to WM2003SE, my friends are complaining about how they receive the same message twice every after 10 minutes...is it the software? or my service provider? any help would be much appreciated...thanks. :lol:

i have te exact same problem....
Can anyone help.....

I gues you both are using "Pocket Plus" software, you have to disable the "close" feature, or at least, execlude "Outlook" from the the "close" feature so when you next time send SMS, it goes as one time, not dublicate!!
Hope this helps.

this thing also happens to me, my receipients complain that i send the message more than once (even up to 10x!)
i tried diabling the "close" function of SPB Pocket Plus. hope this works

what i did and works so far is i don't t tauch anything on the screen antil i ge the ''message send'' bubble, by doing anithing else the messages get to be send twice!

known bug...
What you experience is a well known bug in Windows' way to send SMSs:
The only "workaround" is to wait a few seconds after pressing the "send"-button until the bubble "message sent" comes up, just as chlouk wrote.
If you close the messages app before the bubble comes up, your SMS will be sent twice - only MS knows why...
Greetings,
BGK

Just exclude the tmail.exe from the close button feature of pocket plus. It'll fix the problem.

you are soooo right.....
it's fixed!
Thanx man... :lol:

no prob.. btw look for the tmail.exe in windows folder.

it's been nearly 2 months since i last posted this, n checked it only just now. :lol: my problem was solved a month ago by uninstalling SPB pocketplus...i'm reinstalling. thanks much for the help!

I have exactly the same problem only when I send a sms while I am talking on the phone.

phone off (flight mode - ON) SMS Issues

i usually turn on the flight mode at night, meaning the phone is off, my concern is, when somebody sent me sms while the phone is off, after turning ON the phone (flight mode-OFF) i still do not receive the sms sent ...
i should still be receiving the sms after turning ON the phone, right?
is there any setting in the xda2 to configure? or is it network dependent?
thanks.

Yes you should receive any outstanding sms messages,. I cant find any settings that address this in the inbox. I know that when using a Nokia phone I would switch it on and sometimes recive 4 or 5 messages that were sent when the phone was off, however now that you have mentioned it I cant recall ever receiving any pending sms when switching on the xda or xda 2. Maybe somebody else knows the problem or procedure with sms. I assumed that the message was broadcast once if the recipient was online but placed in pending on the system if phone was off, if that is the case I wonder what happens to the sms received while phone is off if we arent getting them when switching on.

i would say this is a problem with your mobile service provider.. if the phone aerial is off, the phone company holds the sms until the phone registers itself on the network again, it shouldn't have anything to do with the phone

More than one SMS sent every sending message
Guyz i got sms issue 2. But my version is everytime i send one message 2 the recipient. The recipient will get 2 or 3 messages from me. I've cross checked with another phone, and find out that it isn't operator issue. I think it has something 2 do with the radio version or protocol version of the WM2003SE ROM. Coz before i upgraded, everything just seems fine. Any help would be appreciated.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Are you using SPB Pocket Plus or another app that really closes a program when you press the x? The problem you describe is normally encountered when you close the messaging app ( really close it, not minimize it) before you get the pop-up that the message was sent. If you close the program before you get that message, the messaging app thinks the sms is not sent and resents it, 2 or three times. To evade this, just add tmail.exe ( for T-Mobile branded units, for other branding just add the name of the message app for that unit) to the exceptions list in Pocket Plus or any other program you use to close programs. Then the notification that the message is sent will appear normally on your screen and the device nows that the message is sent. Remember that the messaging app is minimized instead of closed when you do this, so be sure to close the app through start-settings-memory to avoid it staying loaded in your RAM.
For SPB Pocket Plus, go into the SPB options, click on Close Button, feature options, and add the program to your exceptions list.

Koksie said:
Are you using SPB Pocket Plus or another app that really closes a program when you press the x? The problem you describe is normally encountered when you close the messaging app ( really close it, not minimize it) before you get the pop-up that the message was sent. If you close the program before you get that message, the messaging app thinks the sms is not sent and resents it, 2 or three times. To evade this, just add tmail.exe ( for T-Mobile branded units, for other branding just add the name of the message app for that unit) to the exceptions list in Pocket Plus or any other program you use to close programs. Then the notification that the message is sent will appear normally on your screen and the device nows that the message is sent. Remember that the messaging app is minimized instead of closed when you do this, so be sure to close the app through start-settings-memory to avoid it staying loaded in your RAM.
For SPB Pocket Plus, go into the SPB options, click on Close Button, feature options, and add the program to your exceptions list.
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Yes, i use SPB Pocket Plus. Thx 4 d solution. I really appreciated. I'll try this soon.

You are welcome! BTW, I just tested it, and when I turn on fliht mode, my sms-es are qeued untill I switch flight mode off. Then I receive the queued sms-es on my Magician. If this does not work on a phone, I guess this is a problem with the provider.

xda2 sends text messages 4 times?

every time i send a short text message, it deducts 48p off my balance instead of 12p.
POS!
whats wrong with it ?

are you using pocket plus or other programs which really close applications insted of the normal minimize ?

Same for me : Text messages are sent twice !!!
Doesn't really bother me as I don't have to pay for it anyway (thx a lot, boss ) but it is pretty annoying for the recipient
Using the default SMS-programm (Messaging) on my BA with WM2003 SE

There is a bug when sending txts that I found. Look at the characters and pages. For some reason if you use T9 and it auto punctuates more than once (sometimes just the once) it will shorten the txt message to half therefore sends 2 or more. It's stupid but just keep an eye on the counter and manually remove punctuation e.g, there's to theres and it will be fine... I only found this out after months of double and triple txt messaging charges.

Thx a lot for the feedbacl, although the problem/issue I'm facing is slightly different as I'm not using T9 and the message is not being split up.
It is exactly the same message that is being sent twice

princegary said:
There is a bug when sending txts that I found. Look at the characters and pages. For some reason if you use T9 and it auto punctuates more than once (sometimes just the once) it will shorten the txt message to half therefore sends 2 or more.
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That's no bug.
SMS are shortened whenever the phone switches to unicode (which is necessary for using some unconventional characters)
But the Qtek devices show clearly how many chars can be sent in one SMS and even how many SMS will be sent.
Simply watch the counter at the bottom before sending an SMS and avoid characters demanding unicode.
Sascha

okay. will do.
cheers.

rite...
Well im using the 02 300 free texts and mine gets sent 3-4 times. even thou i avoid using T9 and Unicode characters (annoys me) but i donno why, is there a solution to it. cheers :?

Re: rite...
dj_factor said:
Well im using the 02 300 free texts and mine gets sent 3-4 times. even thou i avoid using T9 and Unicode characters
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Does O2 deliver the same SMS 3-4 times to the recipient or do they "split" the message into 3-4 messages.
In the latter case, you are definitely using unicode characters.
In the first case you should contact your provider.
And don't forget: watch the counter before sending.
Sascha

Double txt messages
Hi,
I am getting the smae problem every message I send is getting sent twice from the XDAII.
Doesnt matter if the txt is <160 chars or multiple messages.
The receiving device receives the message.
Then sometimes (NOT ALL THE TIME) it will send a duplicate message.
Usually (but again not all the time) the duplicate is sent later when the XDA is used again, after turning it back on.
Any one any clues?
It does run PocketNav as a task switcher/killer and I am going to diable it to check this as a cause.
Thanks in advance

This is a bug from spb Pocket plus when closing the SMS application while message is still sending, try not to close the SMS app while message is still sending.

me too...me too....while using XDA II sending msg, receipient get 2 msgs...i m using spb pocket plus and some chinese translation software...which is the cause of the problem?.. :roll:

The cause is 'tmail.exe'. If you are using spb Pocket Plus you need to do the following:
1. Tab on Start, Settings
2. Select System to launch Spb Pocket Plus
3. Tab on the Features Options that will bring you to Close Button panel.
4. Tab on Exceptions that will show you a panel 'Listed programs will always be minimized when tap the X button'
5. Tab on the ADD button and a pop-up box will display. Then select tab on the Browse.
6. A panel will be displayed showing all the directories. Then tab on the '+' sign of the Windows Directory to expand it.
7. Scroll down till you find a program 'tmail.exe' and tab on it to select it.
8. Lastly, tab on the OK button and it will bring you back to the Close Button panel. In the box it will showed that you have selectet the 'tmail.exe'. Then tab on the OK button on the top right corner.
9. That's all. It should work. On a safe side do a Soft Reset.
You won't have mail sending twice and you will be prompted immediately when the is an incoming mail.
:wink:

:lol: Thankz a dozen WillyBilly...it is very detail!! Thankz again!!! :lol:
It helps.......

then4ag said:
:lol: Thankz a dozen WillyBilly...it is very detail!! Thankz again!!! :lol:
It helps.......
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Great.....good to hear that......

Also that problem without Spb Pocket Plus installed
Hi y'all. I have an IMate Jam PM10A (former T-Mobile MDA) and I'm having the same problems. My sms messages are delivered twice, the 1st immidiatly, the 2nd sometimes an hour later. I do not have SpB Pocket Plus Installed, here is what i do have installed:
# Xvid Codec
# Smart Movie Lonely Cat
# IRemote Majeres
# Windows Theme Switch Today
# Pocketmind Pocketmusic
# Virtual Display Nyditot
# Resco Explorerer 2003
# Wisbar Advance
# Laridan Pocketbible
# Todayinfo Lou Terailloune
# Calendarplus Mohairsofa
Could the Wisbar Advance be the problem=

V-Bar
I'm sending multiple sms as well
Im not using pocket plus but i do use the T9 autocomplete so will turn that off and see, think i do send small multiple sms as well, also i use V-Bar which closes applications so i have removed that and will see if anymore ppl complain about me spamming the multiple sms
Anyone got any idea if any of the following problems cause conflicts in a similar way to pocket plus
pocketxpdf
smartflash
genocide device status on today
pocketmind pocketmusic
david andres battii
art in code screen switch
vbar
bartek

Poket Plus ?? Multiple texts
Rudegar said:
are you using pocket plus or other programs which really close applications insted of the normal minimize ?
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Hi Rudegar,
You mentioned - POCKET PLUS to other user ...
Both my XDA IIi and my wife's XDA mini-s send same message multiple times. I will always receive the message immediately and then again when my wife 'activates' her phone in some way, and vice-versa.
We both use Pocket Plus - Is this the cause. I have been stripping away third party software for amateur developers but I reckoned Pocket Plus seemed 'safe'
Tony - [O2 ireland network]

pocket plus have an option which terminate (really close application rather then minimize them) when people press the X
this is as far as i know useless and a wish people comming from windows on pc like because they dont know that win ce automaticly close unused applications when it require the memory those applications is using
so one can safely turn off that "real" close of application unless one get serious slowdowns from using applications which eat alot of mem
otherwise excluding outlook from the "real" close option is a way to avoid it
or to not close outlook with the x before one gets the msg is sendt icon on the title bar of

Thank You
Thank you Rudegar,
I was fairly sure I had replied to your very helpful post when indeed I hadn't - So, Thanks again, your help pointed me in the right direction to sort my problem!

SMS get sent twice

I've got an XDA Mini S on the O2 network, and people keep telling me that they are receiving my texts twice :?
Does anyone know why this is, or how I can fix it?

Hi Gazhowell
I had the same problem with mine on O2. Found the problem to be SPBpocket plus on the phone! Try not to close the text messages window until you get the message sent confirmation.
I was closing it just as it had sent so when i opened it again it would send again without a notification!
Hope this helps.

Blimey that was a quick reply
I do have spb so I'll try your suggestiong about keeping the window open. Thinking about it now I have been quickly closing it before waiting for the sent confirmation.
Seems an annoying little bug though.

It is not a bug. SMS just cannot be closed while sending. Try to add tmail.exe into hidding (not really closing) apps [in close settings in spb].
In my point of wiev on pda's with phone Contacts and Messages should be hidden, not closed. It speed up opening a lot. While using phone this two features are used most.

savac said:
It is not a bug. SMS just cannot be closed while sending. Try to add tmail.exe into hidding (not really closing) apps [in close settings in spb].
In my point of wiev on pda's with phone Contacts and Messages should be hidden, not closed. It speed up opening a lot. While using phone this two features are used most.
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Thanks for that - I'll give it a try

Yeh i found the same issue when i was closing it too quick!!
give it a shot and let us know how it goes.
Savac has a good point actually. it really should be set to hide as opposed to close that would cure the problem.
good luck!

sms twice
i also had the same problem but didnt have spb installed then so it isnt that that is causing this problem i just wait too till see confirmation message

SMS TWICE
Any suggestion ? Maybe any tweaks or reg modifications ? I wait for confirmation about sms sent, but after wakeup my wizard sending sms second time anyway .

Easy fix don't use Spb Plus

This not only goes for SPB Plus, but for every task manager that really closes apps instead of minimizing them like the standard Wm5 behaviour. They all close the tmail.exe too soon, thereby causing the app to think that the sms was not send and sending it again. Just wait for the "message sent"pop-up before you close the messaging app and you should be fine. Alternatively, you can make an exception in your task manager that tmail.exe is not really closed but only minimized. That also works of course.