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Features for SMS-application

Hi,
I'm working on THE ideal freeware sms-application for XDA... I do have much ideas that I want to realise in my SMS-application (scheduled sms, using the interface of a Nokia - Sony-Ericsson, sending messages with your thumb,...)
Now I need to know YOUR :!: suggestions and YOUR :!: wanted features, YOUR :!: wishlist for the ideal SMS-application!
Thanks for telling me what YOU need or want to have...
Sam

I would like to have an SMS application with the possibility to write with one hand in the standard GSM mode with big keypad (like it is in D9 software).
For me the best thing should be to integrate in D9 (after you find the contact with one hand and select the SMS button) an SMS client with the same keypad like the one for finding contacts (always in D9) which has big numbers with letters (that I can tap them with the fingers to write the message).
Instead of the green button it should have the send one and instead of the two big buttons (contact list and options) it should have the place for the written text.
I think it is the easiest way to write SMS when you walk or have just one hand free.
I hope that you are really going to do something like this.
Thanks,
Urosh

Here's my list of desired features:
Support for international numbers with '+' prefix
Ability to send a text message to all contacts that belong to a chosen category
Texting using dialpad with predictive text input (T9)
Big QWERTY keyboard so we could quickly type messages without using the stylus (maybe in landscape mode)

spam blocker as in you can type in a phonenr from where you dont wish to recieve sms's from
to fight sms spam

It would be awesome if you found some way of integrating T9 text option in your sms client..... That would make life so easy when using your thumb to type out quick messages.....
Thank you for the effort in trying to create a client like this.... I think a lot of people could benefit from your efforts.... The sms-writer program that's out there right now is cool, but its hard to use..... The buttons are small and there's no T9 option.... so its takes forever to type out a message.....

In case that you want to have T9 text input method it should be an option and not default (for non english users).
Jargon..."Big QWERTY keyboard so we could quickly type messages without using the stylus (maybe in landscape mode)"...
I think that a big qwerty keyboard is a non sense, because you need two hands to use it. If I have two hands to write the SMS I should use the default input method. What do you think about?
Urosh

QWERTY
Yes i would like a big landscape QWERTY keyboard, that is my prefered method, i am not so much for that T9 stuff,

I would like a big (preferably changeable) readble font!!! I tried miserably to change the font size on the default application and failed (
also it should still integrate with the inbox and outbox..or maybe have its own outbox and inbox and folders
the contacts should easily be found with either a D9, phone plus, or finger clix method
just as a though..maybe the work on the application could be split in 2 folds.....one for the client itself...
the second is for the input method (like block recognizer and on screenkeyboard)..we can have akeypad with T9 option (that can also be used in other applications
this way you can improe the functionality of the sms client and focus on that...and give the freedom to use which ever input method the user prefers
but please...bigger font!!!!

Hops,
Echo all those suggestions dude - especially the one-handed input method like D9. Sending SMS's whilst driving is the bain of my existance!
I'd pay good money for this app if it comes to fruition. Good luck.
Codenix.

At last someone is developing key features for SMS. The most important feature to me is being able to send SMS to a pre asinged group of contacts.
If the application meets my expectation, I will be glad to pay for it!

The big QWERTY keyboard is good when you're texting while walking or when you're a passenger on a moving vehicle. It's hard to use the stylus and the built-in small keyboard when you're on the move. Also, texting using a QWERTY keyboard is faster than texting using a dialpad.

Please, find a way to send and receive EMS picture messages (not MMS), like the Nokia phone

EMS does new nokia's even have that ?
it's pretty old and never got all that popular
also maybe the reson behind it never became popular could
be that nokia or ericson or who ever own that std
want royalties when people use it

Hi all,
Thanks already for your response!
What I will add to my aplication:
- Big QWERTY / AZERTY keyboard
- Input like a normal GSM (abc - def) - like D9 (one-handed input method)
- Using your OUTLOOK-contacts
- Creating user-groups
- Adaptable screen-layouts (colors, fonts, font-size,...)
- Basic EMS-support
What I will not add is T9, because T9 is a trademark of T9 http://www.t9.com/ and to expensive to implement it in my freeware application!
The SPAM-blocker is a feature I will try to implement, but I can't promise this...
Some more whishes??
Thanks in advance!
Sam

That's it for me, but please I woul like to find a contact (from outlook contacts data base) also with one hand (like D9 method).
I say it because for example in SMS writer you write the SMS (it is too slow and too little buttons) and then to find the contact you must use the stylus. It is impossible to use the fingers. So, that's not the solution if I must use the stylus.
So, I repeat that the best solution would be to include your SMS client in D9 (I think it is open source) and your client appears when the contact has been just found and you tap the SMS button near the contact number and write the SMS with the same screen of initial d9.
That should be the BEST for me!
Thanks again samvds for your work.

Just another thing
In the default SMS client I have to check the box (I have to go always in the option menu) everytime if I want to ricieve the delivery notification.
Could you make it in one of these ways:
- default option (always send the notification of delivery, which is for me important to know if one have recieved the SMS)
- to select this option every time, but in the same screen (not to go in other option menus)
- have the possibility to select this option or not for all SMS (not for every SMS separately)
Thanks again,
Urosh

my good old siemens SL45 used to understand that it was receiving the delivery reciept..and it would not save it as a message...just to scroll the info on the screen ..which is very nice not to have all those delivery receipts in the inbox!

Another good idea is being able to send preprogrammed sms.
you can program your XDA2 to send a birthday greeting on March 13, 2004 at exactly 12:00 am. Or SMS all of your staff a memo on at a certain time

I think using a QWERTY keypad is a bad idea... I have a Nokia 5510, with a full QWERTY keyboard, and it is such a pain to text. I always have to use two hands... you have to be very dextrous just to use one hand. I think a normal dial keypad with T9 would be the best option.
Thanks,
Matt

thoroughfare said:
I think using a QWERTY keypad is a bad idea... I have a Nokia 5510, with a full QWERTY keyboard, and it is such a pain to text. I always have to use two hands... you have to be very dextrous just to use one hand. I think a normal dial keypad with T9 would be the best option.
Thanks,
Matt
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I agree

Can't find tethered SMS program

A friend of mine installed the program but doesn't remember where he found it and I've looked through the Hermes forum as well.
Please, anybody....I need tethered messaging. It makes conversations so much easier. If a link can be left and any instructions for installation (if needed) it would be very appreciated.

Try searching for "threaded SMS".

Are you thinking something like Jeyo Mobile Extender for Outlook? Or did you mean threaded SMS?

It's tethered SMS. It's set up like an instant message conversation seperated by the contact you're having a conversation with showing both party's text messages.

As I said above, it is called "Threaded SMS". If you insist on calling it "Tethered SMS", you will never find it.

check out this link, it is called Palm SMS Threader.

if you're sitting at a computer, why not just fire up an IRC client and talk that way? much cheaper (if you actually pay for text msg's..i dont) and more straightforward..
i just cant see a conversation through sms, especially since there is a character limit on a message. any real convo going on would be interrupted by you having to open the next sms every 160 characters heh..

try codys sms from wmexperts.XXX

watson540 said:
if you're sitting at a computer, why not just fire up an IRC client and talk that way? much cheaper (if you actually pay for text msg's..i dont) and more straightforward..
i just cant see a conversation through sms, especially since there is a character limit on a message. any real convo going on would be interrupted by you having to open the next sms every 160 characters heh..
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you can irc on your ppc too.

watson540 said:
i just cant see a conversation through sms, especially since there is a character limit on a message. any real convo going on would be interrupted by you having to open the next sms every 160 characters heh..
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Threaded SMS doesn't quite work that way, instead of just a character count you get "0 characters 1 message" along the bottom. I've never gone over 320 characters but I assume its possible. the program breaks the message apart into multiple messages. Probably a pain in the ass on the receiving side, but haven't had any complaints, it is rather rare that I compose a text message of said length... for that there's always email.

theFear13ss said:
Probably a pain in the ass on the receiving side
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Sorry, this part of your post made me giggle like an adolescent

Check it Out
Are you talking about the one that functions like the one in the IPHONE.
If so I got your fix here. Hope it is the one you where looking for.

cintiajeremiah said:
check out this link, it is called Palm SMS Threader.
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i just tried that, didn't like it, and now i can't remove it... i uninstalled it but it is still there, and now it fails to install a second time so i can try to uninstall a 2nd time. not to mention that after install i found it erased all my messages... so yeah i guess it is time for second hard reset in 3 days.

Try Cody's Threaded SMS
I like it. Works just like the instant messaging program on Palms

Threaded SMS App

Ok I have a question. Since PocketCM has its own threaded sms and looks good with the bubbles etc, shouldnt it be possible for someone to make a threaded sms app with that same kinda look and interface? I mean, pocketCM is nice but it wont pop up automatically for me when I get a new text and u cant do it like the normal messaging app having an inbox whereas using pocketCM u have look up the contact, go to it then click on sms and history and that seems like a lil much just to get to messaging and its only for that person. I'd rather not have scroll thru all my contacts just to get to one. The guys at PocketCM should look into making their iown messaging app

if they could set it up like the shogun threaded messaging app w/ fixed input so you could see what your typing when using SIP keyboard it would be awesome, it doesnt seem like it would be too hard, but maybe it is

Shouldn't be too hard. PocketCM automatically shifts upward when typing a new message. I really like the interface of the sms part of PocketCM. Does anybody know a mortscript script to bring pocketCM up on the "Contacts with SMS" screen? Or maybe a .lnk shortcut for that??

Good question....I am waiting such application asa well, since Palm messaging didnt work well on my PPC.

my sentiments exactly... another one who's waiting for a good sms theader..

I'm waiting for this one.... hopefully it's going to be ok have waited a long time, though. Maybe it's difficult to make such an application.....
www.iwindowsmobile.com

what about just combine the in and sent box?

I was waiting for such an app too, palm app didn't just do it for me. My brother bought an iPhone, i played around with it and i really liked the SMS App, so i decided to develop my own Threaded SMS. Currently i am working on it, but it's going a bit slow cause i dont have enough time to work on. I'll post it here asa i get an alpha ready.
Meanwhile if you have any suggestions or features that this app can have, plz dont hesitate to drop me a PM
cheers

mrabie said:
I was waiting for such an app too, palm app didn't just do it for me. My brother bought an iPhone, i played around with it and i really liked the SMS App, so i decided to develop my own Threaded SMS. Currently i am working on it, but it's going a bit slow cause i dont have enough time to work on. I'll post it here asa i get an alpha ready.
Meanwhile if you have any suggestions or features that this app can have, plz dont hesitate to drop me a PM
cheers
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i would love to see the inbox and sent box threaded on one screen, so there is no need to go seperate contacts in order to see who i've texted....

ajones7279 said:
Ok I have a question. Since PocketCM has its own threaded sms and looks good with the bubbles etc, shouldnt it be possible for someone to make a threaded sms app with that same kinda look and interface? I mean, pocketCM is nice but it wont pop up automatically for me when I get a new text and u cant do it like the normal messaging app having an inbox whereas using pocketCM u have look up the contact, go to it then click on sms and history and that seems like a lil much just to get to messaging and its only for that person. I'd rather not have scroll thru all my contacts just to get to one. The guys at PocketCM should look into making their iown messaging app
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Uhm, that's not how PCM works. If it doesn't pop up automatically and you have it set to in the options menu, you should check with tene over at pocketcm.com. As for scrolling down to find who sent you an sms, if you just go to the sms screen, it will be the first contact at the top of the list. They're sorted chronologically. That's how most other threader programs do it too. If you've been scrolling down through all of your contacts on the main screen, you've been wasting your time.

just wait for wm6.1, its got a great threaded sms

the Cody threaded sms is pretty good, but kinda slow and laggy and the most annoying thing is that sometimes it just opens up by it self. Is there anyway to fix that?

does anyone know of any other good threaded sms programs? I tried cody's threaded sms, it opened on its own, sent multiple copies of messages, and sometimes didnt even send messages. I installed textr but it just froze my mogul. I dont like pocketcm or the sms app from pocket-sms.com because they arent fully integrated. does anyone know of any other sms programs that work correctly and fully replace the default sms app (like cody's threaded sms does)?

yea i have the same problem as you Sturatt. I have been searching for a good SMS app. cannot find anything. I really like the Cody's Threaded sms features and layout but it has too many problems and does not work well on my Mogul. I want a good SMS app that is similar to cody's threaded sms. Also I don't want to wait for WinMo 6.1 if it is ever released.

Please see itje's thread about the WM6.1 ROM he's scheduled to release this weekend. I think that's what he meant when he said just wait for WM6.1...
Windows Mobile v6.1 ROM due to be released by itje - Touch IT

oh thats good news. Thanks for letting me know, I cant wait now.

Extreme Text by Birdsoft
Has anyone tried Extreme Text by Birdsoft. Its not freeware, $14.95. But it looks simple and stable and you can use poutlook and it reads the same database.
Any thoughts?
http://www.birdsoft.biz/extremetext.htm

problem is it doesnt auto run u have to open the program and txts go to windows default sms b4 this program so its pretty worthless imo

jakeypoo said:
problem is it doesnt auto run u have to open the program and txts go to windows default sms b4 this program so its pretty worthless imo
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exactly. More than anything, i want it to completely take the place of the default sms app (like palm's app). Threaded would be nice, but even if its not, ill settle for a program that just replaces the default app.

Sturatt said:
exactly. More than anything, i want it to completely take the place of the default sms app (like palm's app). Threaded would be nice, but even if its not, ill settle for a program that just replaces the default app.
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So then what's your problem with PCM again?

SMS capital letters afrer pressing enter

Is it possible to enable it?
On my old phone, when I pressed enter to go in new line, first letter was big, now it stays small...

Ditto! Needs sorting out. Seems odd that there seem to be a few good developments in the SIP, but this one has been missed out.

I've found that capitalization (after full stops) works if you disable HTC messaging, as per the thread about SMS messages not sending properly.

johncmolyneux said:
I've found that capitalization (after full stops) works if you disable HTC messaging, as per the thread about SMS messages not sending properly.
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Yep, WM's poutlook will and always has capitalised properly. You'll find that capitalisation when typing e-mails works as it should.

Disabling HTC messaging sounds great but whenever I go to that particular thread, there seem to be people saying that the removal doesn't really work all that well - that parts of HTC messaging remain and that MMS can't be sent. Is this still the case? I will go for it myself if it all works correctly.

johncmolyneux said:
I've found that capitalization (after full stops) works if you disable HTC messaging, as per the thread about SMS messages not sending properly.
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Same here. I disabled HTC messaging to get sent notification back and noticed that the capitalisation started working again.
I don't use MMS, but when choosing 'New' from the soft menu only SMS appears (no MMS option).

BadMonkey said:
Same here. I disabled HTC messaging to get sent notification back and noticed that the capitalisation started working again.
I don't use MMS, but when choosing 'New' from the soft menu only SMS appears (no MMS option).
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Apparently Arcsoft MMS is a good alternative but I never got it to work for me. I'm learning to live with HTC Messages.

The new 1.48 rom supports auto capitalization after full stops etc. At last!

Hello,
I would really appreciate a tweak for this as it does get very annoying when typing messages.
I cant get a ROM upgrade as I am on T-mobile so thats out, any reg edits out there?

Sending a smily without making the message an mms

I have sent 2 MMS now without wanting to. I have come from a HTC One X which was able to send a smiley as part of an SMS but when I use the smileys on the standard Samsung keyboard they are pictures. Are there any SMS smileys on the phone I thought I had found some but now cant find any.

descb600f said:
I have sent 2 MMS now without wanting to. I have come from a HTC One X which was able to send a smiley as part of an SMS but when I use the smileys on the standard Samsung keyboard they are pictures. Are there any SMS smileys on the phone I thought I had found some but now cant find any.
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Use Hangouts for SMS it has smileys which send as SMS

descb600f said:
I have sent 2 MMS now without wanting to. I have come from a HTC One X which was able to send a smiley as part of an SMS but when I use the smileys on the standard Samsung keyboard they are pictures. Are there any SMS smileys on the phone I thought I had found some but now cant find any.
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Try SwiftKey keyboard beta Google it that has smileys built in

For the standard Android smileys (not emojis that count as MMS) just click the menu button and select add smiley

Skander1998 said:
For the standard Android smileys (not emojis that count as MMS) just click the menu button and select add smiley
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I knew I wasn't going mad cheers.
I tried the swiftkey but lost some of the Samsung features so went back.
Still missing some of the HTC features as it is.