Im new to the xda forums and ive litterally tried all the varieties of hero roms on here and all of them have given me problems ranging from the blurry screen to the htc loading screen every time i press the home button. i hate the stock ui of android 1.5 so i thought id try something else and i need serious technical help getting the MOST stable and efficient rom w/o many complicationd because the actual HTC Hero is come out for Sprint on 10/11 and i dont have the accomidations to switch carriers right now. Please help
HTC Saphire/T-Mobile MyTouch 3G:Stock
HTC Dream/T-Mobile G1: Stock
8GB Apple Iphone: 3.0 T-Mobile Unlocked
It's totally subjective:
But my opinion is
Cyanogen Experimental 1.4.7 with Enochs 1.3.1 theme.
Yes it says experimental but i've had less issues with this ROM than most (so called) stable ROM's. It's easily the fastest thing out there for the Magic (because of BFS), trust me you won't believe how fast it is!
n1ck75 said:
It's totally subjective:
But my opinion is
Cyanogen Experimental 1.4.7 with Enochs 1.3.1 theme.
Yes it says experimental but i've had less issues with this ROM than most (so called) stable ROM's. It's easily the fastest thing out there for the Magic (because of BFS), trust me you won't believe how fast it is!
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But not a Hero ROM, just a highly moded/optomized stock ROM with a little Donut thrown in.
Clinton
i say cyanogens 4.1.7 without hero. Yes i thought hero was the bomb, then i started to get a lil mad with the lag. its still not a day to day user interface. i have tried all configurations and still nothing to bring me comfort while using hero. i hate to say that the ion/sapphires have the advantage with more ram. it makes a big dif. but cyanogens rom is really a WOW. Ya nothing with pretty stuff is ehhh but its super fast and can apply themes to make it look beautiful!!! with themes its still respectful. hard to say amongst most. those to vouch for me speak up.
ZeroXD 5.2r4 or Evil Hero 2.4x. Runs as fast as stock for me. Cant remember what a load screen looks like. Just need to set max cpu to 528, can keep minimum where it is and use 96mb swap file 40 o 60 swappiness.
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ZeroXD 5.2r4 or Evil Hero 2.4x. Runs as fast as stock for me. Cant remember what a load screen looks like. Just need to set max cpu to 528, can keep minimum where it is and use 96mb swap file 40 o 60 swappiness.
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for those who dont know wtf "96mb swap file 40 o 60 swappiness"
can u explain. thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649952
What is best hero rom (bt an lwd works, no lag) for 32b??
If by "lag" you mean slower than the stock UI, then none, 192mb ram just cant handle it properly. Dont even bother, there will always be lag compared to the stock google ui...only the 288mb ram version works acceptably well. i know it sucks, i cant wait to NOT renew my tmobile contract and tell them its all because they cheaped out on everyone with the mytouch's ram...
Maxisma 1.7.1 is by far the most solid ROM out there. Hardly any load screens and no lag. It's not quite as speedy as a stock ROM but there's little to stop it being practical as a day to day install. Occasionally a load screen will appear but this happens even on genuine Hero devices. Bluetooth, leds and everything work and you don't need to do any partition on your sd card. Just install and go!
Hey guys,
don't get me wrong, I am not talking about the current stage of android on HD2.
What the guys here established so far is mindblowing, but still we are nowhere near the performance of a pure android phone like the HTC Desire.
Question is, is it possible, with a fully optimized kernel and the OS running in NAND to achieve the performance of a HTC Desire?
Having in mind, that we are basically talking about the very same hardware platform regarding cpu/gpu/ram:
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8250
ATI/AMD Z430 GPU
576 MB of RAM.
So what do you guys think?
boba
I went to a sprint store with my HD2 running Darkstone's v5 and it seems to be just as fast as, if not faster than the Evo, so there's no reason to presume it wouldn't be the same for the Desire.
I think we will have to wait until
- we can flash android directly as ROM and not only boot it and have it running on a sdcard
- the full memory available can be used. Currently the amount of ram used by android is around 250 Mbyte as far as I know. So nearly a half of ram is unused at the moment.
I am very sure that we will have great performance mostly like on desire when these points are realized.
If I use a live wallpaper on my HD2, there are some stutters when I open the "all apps"-tab. With a static wall it is in fact as smooth as the desire I used for comparison.
But I guess the overall performance is still on a way lower level than it should be out of a fully utilized NAND
Bare in mind, contrary to what you might think, Windows Mobile is in fact NOT running in any entirety once HaRET shuts it all down.
Phil
when will an android ROM be available that runs from flash
Hi,
I am interested in running android, I am a software developer so I have a clue but I have never put a non-htc rom in my hd2.
What is the timescale for an android rom being available that will replace the windows carp?
i was also wondering why so many people are creating their own versions rather than people grouping together to solve the various driver problems etc.
it seems a vastly over complex and risky process which is why i have not tried it, let alone deciding which flavour to choose.
i basically want to turn my hd2 into a decent phone, the hardware is good, the OS is carp but as yet there does not seem to be a decent way to run android other than buy an android phone.
not wanting a flame war here, i just don't get it.
I'm running Shub's Cyanogen and it already runs faster than my brother's Desire for the majority of tasks.
So yes.
@john00williams
how complex and risky is downloading a rar, extract it onto you SDcard, then running 1 exe file and waiting?! if after 10 mins you dont see android home screen, then you remove your battery to restart the phone and wait for new android build while using your old WM!!
you dont delete anything or remove anything.
how is that complex?? how??
also, fact that android is running from SD card only slows the bootup, while android itself is not visibly slower, cause WM is shut down completely and android is loaded into memory. for optimal usage you should have level 6 SD card anyway
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Bare in mind, contrary to what you might think, Windows Mobile is in fact NOT running in any entirety once HaRET shuts it all down.
Phil
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THANKYOU, I dont know why so many people are finding that hard to understand
john00williams said:
Hi,
I am interested in running android, I am a software developer so I have a clue but I have never put a non-htc rom in my hd2.
What is the timescale for an android rom being available that will replace the windows carp?
i was also wondering why so many people are creating their own versions rather than people grouping together to solve the various driver problems etc.
it seems a vastly over complex and risky process which is why i have not tried it, let alone deciding which flavour to choose.
i basically want to turn my hd2 into a decent phone, the hardware is good, the OS is carp but as yet there does not seem to be a decent way to run android other than buy an android phone.
not wanting a flame war here, i just don't get it.
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Noone has any idea how long a full nand build will take, but I've read in a few places that a ETA is september...
All the devs are sharing their work as far as i can see.
there are 2 or 3 main builds now, the rest are older work...
Complex?
Get the right radio, rom, and put android on the root of your SD and run it.
Not complex at all, childs play infact.
the HD2 IS A GOOD phone. Just because you dont like winmo doesnt change that.
Maybe you should have researched a little before buying it...
If you wanted android, why the didn't you buy it?
to everyone else booting android on the hd2 is a bonus.
Please search before posting too, everything I just said has been said countless times
john00williams said:
it seems a vastly over complex and risky process which is why i have not tried it, let alone deciding which flavour to choose.
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Risky? It runs off the memory card, there is zero to little risk. Other than the phone heating up a little the phone being damaged is highly unlikely. And with SetCPU running mine doesn't heat up any more than it did under Windows Mobile when running intensive apps or services.
john00williams said:
i basically want to turn my hd2 into a decent phone, the hardware is good, the OS is carp but as yet there does not seem to be a decent way to run android other than buy an android phone.
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You can tell you haven't tried out one of the recent Android builds. If I was asked to assign a percentage of usability to the Cyanogen build I'm using off my class 6 Samsung card it would be 95% and the few things which are still ropey aren't essential, or certainly not for me. I can live without full bluetooth support for example.
My phone now has Android on it, that is how I think of it. I don't think of it as a WM phone that happens to be sort of running Android, a small but important point. I haven't used Windows Mobile now for over two weeks, and there is a reason for that.
@ the moment de devs are working to get full amount of ram. Cotulla said he see no problem to make nand work but there will be no nand until half of semptember for various reasons. I think they want first fix all other problems.
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@ the moment de devs are working to get full amount of ram. Cotulla said he see no problem to make nand work but there will be no nand until half of semptember for various reasons. I think they want first fix all other problems.
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... and that makes sense definitly. It is much easier to fix issues by for example replacing a zimage file than flashing a new rom. Also we have the possibility to boot in wimo when problems occure. In my case I have four different android builds on my sdcard as I can not make a final decision which version to run yet. Some receive frequent updates, some don't.
So we should not see the lack of a nand rom too negative, its a great opportunity to fix most of the issues.
if only scrolling is smoother , all things willl be fine with me
Pagnell said:
My phone now has Android on it, that is how I think of it. I don't think of it as a WM phone that happens to be sort of running Android, a small but important point. I haven't used Windows Mobile now for over two weeks, and there is a reason for that.
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Likewise, I've not run Windows Mobile for about the same amount of time, even when people were getting issues with the early builds, I wasn't.
Windows Mobile for me is gone, even in its current state, it's far more usable than my stock HD2 ever was!
I'm still on Froyo1.0, I've not tried any of the Sense Builds out.
Phil
Ask any one a month ago how they liked the desire build they would have said its buggy and needs to be smoothed out. I have fixed every thing on my desire build (except 3g=working on it) but i have the energy rom now and 2.12 radio and runing the desire v5.7 biuld and let me tell you it is way faster than last month so sept. sounds great for the rest of the bugs to be sorted out so can the desire build run fast on the hd2 just like the born android desire? ill have to say yes
p.s. i cant say ill get rid of winmo all together thats kinda the reason i bought the phone booting into android is just one extra bonus
At the moment there is only a limited amount of RAM available.
And SD cards are really really slow when writing to(even the expensive class 10 ones).
These two factors combined is the biggest performance problem at the moment. Nand and full RAM access is the only solution here I believe.
There are several benchmark programs for Android that you can run on your hd2 to see that in some areas performance is just as good as with the desire already. Thanks to the brilliant minds that work on porting Android.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
runemail said:
At the moment there is only a limited amount of RAM available.
And SD cards are really really slow when writing to(even the expensive class 10 ones).
These two factors combined is the biggest performance problem at the moment. Nand and full RAM access is the only solution here I believe.
There are several benchmark programs for Android that you can run on your hd2 to see that in some areas performance is just as good as with the desire already. Thanks to the brilliant minds that work on porting Android.
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I have the htc incredible for my work phone. I am using a class 6 8gb sdcard, miri's rom, and darkstones hd2froyo. There is almost no difference between the phones. Less then 10% in speed. My incredible is stock however.
Will it be possible to put both android and winmo on nand in the future?
I just recently had the chance to run my HD2 with MattC RC 1.4 side by side with a Desire and an EVO and honestly, there is little to no difference in performance in MY personal build, which for whatever reason has been pretty much flawless since I started using these Android builds. Believe it or not, I have literally never once (knock on wood) had a SOD, other than my bootup having the green screen once or twice and white screen once. I actually tried going back to WinMo the other day and literally just couldn't stomach it, the functionality just doesn't cut it for me even though I still say it is the better "business" platform when compared to Android. Too long winded? Probably.
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I just recently had the chance to run my HD2 with MattC RC 1.4 side by side with a Desire and an EVO and honestly, there is little to no difference in performance in MY personal build, which for whatever reason has been pretty much flawless since I started using these Android builds. Believe it or not, I have literally never once (knock on wood) had a SOD, other than my bootup having the green screen once or twice and white screen once. I actually tried going back to WinMo the other day and literally just couldn't stomach it, the functionality just doesn't cut it for me even though I still say it is the better "business" platform when compared to Android. Too long winded? Probably.
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add for that thet we have proper multitouch with no multitouch issues like one (desire , nexusone and incredible )
I've tried a number of sense 3 roms, and while I'm liking what I see and for the most part the roms are useable, it seems that there are a number of areas where there are significant lags where the phone seems to freeze. this usually happens when switching apps, screens etc. and it happens on every sense 3 rom I've tried to date.
through some investigation, it seems sense 3 is native to dual core processors, (correct me if I'm wrong) which would indicate to me that the HD2's hardware specs are too low to run sense 3 properly (sort of like running win7 on a P3) it can be done, but is it worth it?
I know that the chefs have got it further than say POC, but will it get much better than it already is? (actual useability in terms of sense 2.1 useability that is)
sorry if i don't make much sense ( no pun intended) but i am not quite sure if i got the idea across
oh my hd2 is EU version (T9193)
i dont see those lags, im using dungs DHD sense 3 rom and its fast, there might be a few lags but i put that down to my class2 sd card
tried a sense 3.5 rom ? the bliss rom is from a lower spec handset than the hd2
I'm also on Dungs DHD 3 sense rom, I also found it laggy, but then I tried Supercharger script, and it's way better.
I use setting 7 and 17 in the latest beta. It reallymakes a difference.
#EDIT
I changed my supercharger settings to the 512Mb multitask option (I can't remember the number) and that seems to be smoother.
But that said, I'm still looking for another ROM, theres just to much lag.
Or maybe I should just buy a DHD
I've been using Dungphp's Desire HD sense 3.0 port also, and I haven't had any glitches or laggyness, it runs really well. I'm using an American HD2 so running it all from NAND might have some difference from having to have an ext4 also, I dunno though.