sense 3.0? are hd2 hw specs high enough? - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

I've tried a number of sense 3 roms, and while I'm liking what I see and for the most part the roms are useable, it seems that there are a number of areas where there are significant lags where the phone seems to freeze. this usually happens when switching apps, screens etc. and it happens on every sense 3 rom I've tried to date.
through some investigation, it seems sense 3 is native to dual core processors, (correct me if I'm wrong) which would indicate to me that the HD2's hardware specs are too low to run sense 3 properly (sort of like running win7 on a P3) it can be done, but is it worth it?
I know that the chefs have got it further than say POC, but will it get much better than it already is? (actual useability in terms of sense 2.1 useability that is)
sorry if i don't make much sense ( no pun intended) but i am not quite sure if i got the idea across
oh my hd2 is EU version (T9193)

i dont see those lags, im using dungs DHD sense 3 rom and its fast, there might be a few lags but i put that down to my class2 sd card
tried a sense 3.5 rom ? the bliss rom is from a lower spec handset than the hd2

I'm also on Dungs DHD 3 sense rom, I also found it laggy, but then I tried Supercharger script, and it's way better.
I use setting 7 and 17 in the latest beta. It reallymakes a difference.
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I changed my supercharger settings to the 512Mb multitask option (I can't remember the number) and that seems to be smoother.
But that said, I'm still looking for another ROM, theres just to much lag.
Or maybe I should just buy a DHD

I've been using Dungphp's Desire HD sense 3.0 port also, and I haven't had any glitches or laggyness, it runs really well. I'm using an American HD2 so running it all from NAND might have some difference from having to have an ext4 also, I dunno though.

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Super RAM Builds?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518
What is special about this build?
- What is special about this build is that the entire Android O/S filesystem is stored in RAM before it is booted.
What does this mean?
- Well, RAM is faster than NAND(ROM) and SD Card which in turn will make the build superfast too! Very fast. Very very fast!
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THIS Build as some who have it on their phones will testify is by far and and away the fastest build to date in Android development there is no faster build that im aware of, i can never see myself going back to "normal" Android builds again and credit must go to Darkstone this is a massive advancement in Android technology, my question is though, isn't there other chefs who can cook builds similar to this?
Merry Xmas to you all
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Dude there's another thread for this:
[http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872587]
superram is amazing, but i cant seem to charge to 100% straight in android (witch annoys me).
other than that i have it fully functional.
dapoharoun said:
superram is amazing, but i cant seem to charge to 100% straight in android (witch annoys me).
other than that i have it fully functional.
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Have you tried charging fully in WM before switching to Android. This should solve your problem.
I like Sense.. i like sense alot.. Sense means beauty and comfort for me .. I would sacrifise a bit of smoothness for a lot of Sense.. thanks..
Few days ago I copied darkstone's RAM build 1.5 to second SD card just to test it. And I was blown away with its speed. Second boot lasted about 10sec. Difference in speed in compare to any other build I tried is huge. Scrolling through the pages, opening and closing apps.....and the lockscreen is very nice
But I got huge data drops, internet in my case was working very badly. Also like Laynee1 I miss some stuff from sence.
But in any case I think that this is the way for me to go. Waiting for further releases. MDJ's gingerbread RAM looks promising. As soon as GPS is working in it I am switching.
Darkstone's build is working flawless for me so far. No data drops whatsoever. People complain Quadrant scores aren't 2000+, but thats not where the speed is at. It's basically just faster load times, and snappyness.
Also, since I hate Sense, there's no problem there
like i once said, ram builds are like sportcars, fast, no luxury, no interior, naked, raw and pure.. sense builds are the bentleys beautifull, full of gimmicks, just comfort and luxury.. besides that, the ram builds are crazy fast at navigating on the phone, but graphics are still choppy, like there are display drivers missing..
I like sense too but you when you have builds as fast aas this it doesn't matter, no data drops here either very happy with the build indeed
greg17477 said:
like i once said, ram builds are like sportcars, fast, no luxury, no interior, naked, raw and pure.. sense builds are the bentleys beautifull, full of gimmicks, just comfort and luxury.. besides that, the ram builds are crazy fast at navigating on the phone, but graphics are still choppy, like there are display drivers missing..
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good description there mate
I really wish that some RAM version of CM builds could be made. They are very fast of regular SD. I can't imagine how fast it will run on RAM!
I tried Darkstones build and I really liked it, the only thing I missed from sense is the dialer.
duke911 said:
I really wish that some RAM version of CM builds could be made. They are very fast of regular SD. I can't imagine how fast it will run on RAM!
I tried Darkstones build and I really liked it, the only thing I missed from sense is the dialer.
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I dunno how good a Sense RAM build would be. Sense is huge and it will kinda fill HD2`s whole RAM memory. I need to have at least 150 MB free on my device for it to run smoothly, and somehow I think Sense would take more than that. Same goes for CM builds, way too loaded. The sport-car comparison previously mentioned is a good one, it`s like trying to add extra scrap parts to a car and expecting it to behave as smoothly as it used to before adding anything.
Besides, ADW Launcher has tons of skins (at least it has some interesting ones, worth checking out) and it`s wonderfully fast and stable.
Something which is completely off-topic but still bothers me: if they managed to run Android off the RAM memory, could they perhaps do the same with WP7? I`d really rofl to see the HD2 running WP7 smoother than the Mozart...
Super Ram Contacts...
Hi guys, ive been using Darkstones Super Ram, for a full two weeks now. Awesome!!! Question, with my gmail acount, i have all my contacts in groups. Why cant i see my contancts in groups? I need to message them for meetings and all that stuff, all in one shot. But i cant see this setting in my Phone. Can anyone help??
Thanks in advance.
a Quick Question,
how to get the Sense UI get to work on this Build? i been searching for ever, Everything else seems to be working So Far,
I have LaunchPro Plus Installed,
So if anyone can help me out, appreciated.
thanks
appan said:
a Quick Question,
how to get the Sense UI get to work on this Build? i been searching for ever, Everything else seems to be working So Far,
I have LaunchPro Plus Installed,
So if anyone can help me out, appreciated.
thanks
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Sense wasn't not included in the rom, it was based off of AdamG's Oxygen minimalistic rom. I don't think you would be able to put Sense over the SupperRAM.
I'm using LaunchPro Plus, and liking it, I miss the better sense widgets though...
Been using SupperRAM for only 2 days now, speed has been great.
I did notice some data drops more than usual. A reboot or toggling phone data on/off has helped this problem.
I'm extremly happy with this build have hardly experienced any data drops and it continues to whizz along at great speed, i actually don't miss sense that much to be honest, when a build is as fast as this for me personally that's the main thing, hoping to see other developers follow suit.
I tried the Super RAM build and I absolutely loved the speed. However, I would also like a Sense build with it (if possible) because then I would be able to sync my Outlook via HTC Sync. I need the sync with contacts and calendar between Outlook and HD2. While google has a program released to sync the calendar to gmail and from there to the phone, they are lacking in the contacts department...
anyone any ideas?
it's fast and has good battery life. those are the things I need the most from a build. i don't know why people torture themselves with the slowness of desire hd builds
duke911 said:
I really wish that some RAM version of CM builds could be made. They are very fast of regular SD. I can't imagine how fast it will run on RAM!
I tried Darkstones build and I really liked it, the only thing I missed from sense is the dialer.
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There is actually a ram version of CM build made. "HD2ONE v3.6 [CM6.1.1 Stable]" you will need to edit the startup.txt to get your RAM ver.

Questions regarding lag on different builds

hi guys..
got a bit of a question.
ive read through many of the related posts but havent quite found the right answer to my question.
i have a tmobile hd2 with the latest official winmob rom, and have been trying out various android roms booting from sd.
well, heres the thing... there seems to be a two distinct types of roms in how it works after booting (several times to settle things down).
some lag and some simply dont.
for eg, rafdroid and mcmjoon desire hds have a distinct lag. it intermittently freezes.
on the other hand, core cell build, gingerbread builds and froyo superram builds have no lag/intermittently freezes.
its not an overall slowdown of the operating system, its intermittent short freezes.
i like some of the stable established builds but so far im resigned to only use those that dont lag as i cant figure out whats different that some lag and some dont.
am currently using darkstones superram froyo thats really very nice. i just wanted something with more eye candy and had sense cooked into.
anf btw.. what exactly is the security flaw thats a problem with darkstones superram?
thanking ya'll in advance for any and all replies.
regards,
asmd.
Sense uses alot or takes up a sizeable chunk of ram and storage so you can expect that sense makes roms bigger which therefore should in turn make them slower. So in all you won't find a sense build that is as smooth and fast as non sense builds. It's like a computer, the more stuff on your computer, the slower it runs.
Try the superam sense from darkstone, very fast with sense.
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thanks for the replies guys.
appreciate it.
am using superram froyo and so far its the bees knees!
im not talking about the general slowness of any build. that i know. some builds are faster than other but im talking about intermittent freezes. everything just stops for a moment and then continues. even typing on the on screen keyboard.
the most obvious that ive recently noted was between rafdroid and corecell for example. corecell ui is uniform, its not as fast as gingerbread or darkstones build but there are no freezes. rafdroid (and others) also have a a similar speed but inter spaced with intermittent freezes.
i formateed the sd card before trying any new build and only used the same card for all of them. so im wondering if im doing something worng or could it be something to do with radio versions... i'll admit that im a noob and it took mee weeks of reading before i had the balls to even an sd build of android. so this may be something of a simple question.
im using a stock standard hd with the the newest firmware updates.
regards,
asmd.

[Q] How to keep Sense running smooth? Maintenance routine for Android on HD2?

Dudes,
I've been running Android on HD2 for a few weeks now and it's great so far - it's basically like a Desire HD for half the price. But I've been having a problem in regards to keeping the Sense UI running smooth after a few days, no matter what build I try (this is why I'm posting in general)
I've tried Imilka's Desire Z, Rafdroid HD 4.0.2, Rafdroid HD Light 3.2 SQ and CMYLXGO Light. So far, CMYLXGO seems like it's the smoothest, but I'm still experiencing significant slow down and jerkiness of the Sense UI after a few days.
Are there any maintenance routines or tweaks I can try to keep Sense running smooth?
I'm sure there's something in regards to
-cache cleaning
-ram cleanup
-reboot routines etc
that I could try, but I'm not sure where to start, and I'm kinda iffy about using a task killer
Any ideas would be great, especially if we can make this a resource thread for people with the same question
thanks,
zuka
Less apps installed
Less memory usage for micro sd
Keep the internal memory little used. Like eight hundred or more megabytes free
Just my two cents
That's a good idea in theory, but I've got an EU HD2 with 512mb of internal memory. With CMYLXGO Light installed and every possible app moved to the SD card, I have 20 megs of free internal storage.
Would creating an EXT3 partition on my SD card have any effect in speeding up the phone by allowing it to use it for internal memory, or does that not work in every rom? (Derp: Just checked and Cmylxgo DHD doesn't support data2ext. Sorry)
Well just to point out. Desire hd and z roms aren't really smooth. Unless there has been a significant improvement from the last time I tried, which was 3 weeks ago, yeah. So yeah, just pointing out that you can't ask for it to be something it isn't.
My point is that on first install, and even after installing all apps, the build is significantly smoother than it becomes over the next few days. I suspect there's some kind of way to clear out caches etc to make it run at a stable speed over time, so i'm just checking if anybody has any tips
As the sense version number increments it get more bloated and eats up more space and memory.
What I recommend is desire/bravo ( not desire hd or z ). It's an older version of sense that has some advantages in my oppinion:
- no htc hub, htc likes, htc crap
- timestamp on picture
- occupies less space
- runs faster.
- the battery is ok
So, try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992430
The desirez and dhd builds are not smooth in general.
I use Skinks Clean Desire and ist very smooth. Only disadvantage is that it hasn't the new sense 2.1 features.
The nest best things to hope for are the new roms coming now. With Gingerbread and sense 2.1 based of the desire s or incredible s.
For now i can recommend Imilkas Vivo build. Almost everything is working.
zukа said:
Dudes,
I've been running Android on HD2 for a few weeks now and it's great so far - it's basically like a Desire HD for half the price. But I've been having a problem in regards to keeping the Sense UI running smooth after a few days, no matter what build I try (this is why I'm posting in general)
I've tried Imilka's Desire Z, Rafdroid HD 4.0.2, Rafdroid HD Light 3.2 SQ and CMYLXGO Light. So far, CMYLXGO seems like it's the smoothest, but I'm still experiencing significant slow down and jerkiness of the Sense UI after a few days.
Are there any maintenance routines or tweaks I can try to keep Sense running smooth?
I'm sure there's something in regards to
-cache cleaning
-ram cleanup
-reboot routines etc
that I could try, but I'm not sure where to start, and I'm kinda iffy about using a task killer
Any ideas would be great, especially if we can make this a resource thread for people with the same question
thanks,
zuka
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Clean dalvik cache
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[Q] Even with all the stickies, can't find a decent rom, maybe with sense too

Its for my father's HD2, Windows Mobile is pretty much useless nowadays, and he loves the Voice Search feature on my Evo 3D. Its going to be a NAND rom, not booting from SD, that would be too annoying for him to use.
Thing is, there are only about 1000 roms for this thing....... even dozens of versions of Cyanogen.
And on top of that, I don't know how well some of the custom roms with Sense 2.0 or 3.0 would work, or if any are missing hardware support.
I understand you lose performance if you add-on alternate UIs like sense, but how big is the performance hit? Hes not going to be playing high-end 3D games or performing protein folding or anything on the thing, so as long as the performance loss doesn't hit the "Phone becomes laggy, input lags, and it takes forever to load anything" range, I would actually prefer a sense based rom than one without.
Again, I am doing this for someone that isn't TOO technical, though no stranger to computers either, so I don't need a rom packed full of overclocking and root tweaking options (though a rooted rom would still be preferred).
So then, are there any good Sense 3.0 roms for the HD2 available? Got any you recommend? Do they still support all of the phone's hardware?
If not, what would be your next choice? Is there much point in using Sense 2.0 over vanilla android other than the extra sense widgets which he would probably not care about? Sense 3.0 does have the looping home screens and the very functional lock screen that I know he would find useful.
Thanks, I know a lot of people ask for recommendations, but after searching for roms for days and basically flying blind in the "maybe this one will be good, its got a lot of people installing it" category I could really use some advice, especially for a Sense 3.0 rom... if they exist.
Cyber Akuma said:
Its for my father's HD2, Windows Mobile is pretty much useless nowadays, and he loves the Voice Search feature on my Evo 3D. Its going to be a NAND rom, not booting from SD, that would be too annoying for him to use.
Thing is, there are only about 1000 roms for this thing....... even dozens of versions of Cyanogen.
And on top of that, I don't know how well some of the custom roms with Sense 2.0 or 3.0 would work, or if any are missing hardware support.
I understand you lose performance if you add-on alternate UIs like sense, but how big is the performance hit? Hes not going to be playing high-end 3D games or performing protein folding or anything on the thing, so as long as the performance loss doesn't hit the "Phone becomes laggy, input lags, and it takes forever to load anything" range, I would actually prefer a sense based rom than one without.
Again, I am doing this for someone that isn't TOO technical, though no stranger to computers either, so I don't need a rom packed full of overclocking and root tweaking options (though a rooted rom would still be preferred).
So then, are there any good Sense 3.0 roms for the HD2 available? Got any you recommend? Do they still support all of the phone's hardware?
If not, what would be your next choice? Is there much point in using Sense 2.0 over vanilla android other than the extra sense widgets which he would probably not care about? Sense 3.0 does have the looping home screens and the very functional lock screen that I know he would find useful.
Thanks, I know a lot of people ask for recommendations, but after searching for roms for days and basically flying blind in the "maybe this one will be good, its got a lot of people installing it" category I could really use some advice, especially for a Sense 3.0 rom... if they exist.
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If you really want sense, go for a dhd sense 3 rom (Runnymede Sense 3.5 works well on mine), and if you really want looping homescreens, install launcherpro on any rom of your choice.
BUT I'd recommend a cm7/miui rom because in the end, it's still slow.
Linkies:
- Typhoon
- Dorimanx
- DHD Sense 3 - Dungphp
Moon2 said:
If you really want sense, go for a dhd sense 3 rom (Runnymede Sense 3.5 works well on mine), and if you really want looping homescreens, install launcherpro on any rom of your choice.
BUT I'd recommend a cm7/miui rom because in the end, it's still slow.
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Not a fan of Sense 3.5 over 3.0 personally.
And just how slow is it compared to CM7? I mean, I understand CM7 will be faster than a sense rom, even CM7 with sense hacked in, but as long as its not laggy or sluggish thats fine, I don't need it to break benchmark records and run the latest 3d software.
I really like the sense 3.X roms... and i don't find them THAT slow (i have a DHD).
But that god damn graphic glitch is anoying, and i'm not going to disable GPU rendering of sense to get it working without glitches... must wait
daedric said:
I really like the sense 3.X roms... and i don't find them THAT slow (i have a DHD).
But that god damn graphic glitch is anoying, and i'm not going to disable GPU rendering of sense to get it working without glitches... must wait
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Im new to NAND HD2, but not new to the HD2 ( sold my 1st one, just got another the other day ) but I just flashed my first Android NAND ROM and I noticed all thse graphic glitches, i thought it was something else. But apparently its a common problem for everyone? No fix Im assuming.
Anyways im curious what you mean by DHD?
GHetting to performance, HD2 isnt bad at all! Im old time Android owner going back to the G1 and myTouch 3G.If you wanna see degraded performance try flashing a Sense rom on a G1 or 32B device. OWwwo
Well I can recommend Rafdroid rom. Its Sense2 stock froyo. Works mostly well.
So, did they ever fix those graphic glitches people keep complaning about?
MIUI builds are very slick, very impressive on the HD2, can't imagine it being any slicker or faster as there seems to be zero lag whatsoever.
Cyber Akuma said:
So, did they ever fix those graphic glitches people keep complaning about?
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there are roundabout fixes yes
I have the same question (which ROM to use?) but this post still doesnt not give me a clear answer. I have been using Mikhei777 sense 3.0 version (original) but it has lots of lag and is fairly sluggish. He has upgraded it a few times but now seems to be spending more time on the sense 3.5 version. Its my wifes phone so do not want to keep trying new versions. Just want someone to recommend a known good stable version...
Thanks
rzw said:
I have the same question (which ROM to use?) but this post still doesnt not give me a clear answer. I have been using Mikhei777 sense 3.0 version (original) but it has lots of lag and is fairly sluggish. He has upgraded it a few times but now seems to be spending more time on the sense 3.5 version. Its my wifes phone so do not want to keep trying new versions. Just want someone to recommend a known good stable version...
Thanks
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Rafdroid from Rafpigna if you want sense without glitches
HyperDroiD CM7 5.3.0 from Pongster ... my actual ROM ... stable, fast, last gingerbread 2.3.7 ... simply fantastic
nystao said:
Rafdroid from Rafpigna if you want sense without glitches
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Strange, I can't find that one here:
http://android.hd2roms.com/
I've been using Mikhei777's Android 2.2.1 Sense 2.0 rom for quite some time. It works great and haven't had any problems at all with it. The wifi hotspot works also. Not sure about bluetooth and USB tethering stuff. Don't use them. He deleted a lot of the useless system apps but there is a rar file you can download from the first post that has all of the deleted stuff in case there is something you want to put back in it. I've only put on Facebook and the text to speech stuff. I'm not using an ext on my phone since I have a TMOUS HD2 so, I don't have memory issues. Give it a try. If you don't like it you can always flash something else.
bethybabes69 said:
MIUI builds are very slick, very impressive on the HD2, can't imagine it being any slicker or faster as there seems to be zero lag whatsoever.
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exactly, wise words...
if you want a good rom with everything working, miui is the way to go. If your friend is not a hardcore techie, he better stays away from those Sense roms. try it for yourself and compare.. but seriously feature wise Sense is so outdated compared to miui (except the htc widgets maybe).
cheers
The worst about MIUI, it's that laggish launcher/desktop.
I don't know why... it fells "low frame rate".
daedric said:
The worst about MIUI, it's that laggish launcher/desktop.
I don't know why... it fells "low frame rate".
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That's why I use PAT's MIUI Rom with Sense launcher. It combines the best of the 2 world's. Very fast,customizable and everything is working like in other MIUI rom's and a very good, customizable launcher with the most important sense widget's.
No graphic glitches, not a disabled GPU acceleration and camcorder with full resolution and without lags. And the newest Android 2.3.7 version.
Use this rom since some month's, will never go back to the slow sense rom's. Only the dialer facebook integration of the sense dialer isn't there, but I don't have facebook and Co. But there is already an alternative dialer on the market, probably he can also display the actual feelings (posted in facebook) of the incoming caller and such nonsense.
daedric said:
The worst about MIUI, it's that laggish launcher/desktop.
I don't know why... it fells "low frame rate".
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now you have surprised me not sure which version of miui you are refering to, but i am on jan-willems miui and there is zero lag (its butter smooth) on the luncher. basically there are no issues at all.
btw installing a 3rd party launcher on miui is a no go, as it decrases the fuctionality.. people no offense, but you need to read the miui bible
@Nixda99
one question, what do you mean by:
"Only the dialer facebook integration of the sense dialer isn't there, but I don't have facebook and Co."?
When i get a call from a Facebook contact i can actually see its profile pic from facebook. On contact details i also see his status or last comment or whatever its called clicking on it, opens the facebook app and goes to this comment. is that what you meant?
If you are looking for a good ROM, Team Blue Droid have produced an excellent sense 3.5 Rom which looks the business and works far better than many others I have flashed recently on mh EU HD2. I am not that technically minded regarding SD card partition types, but I run mine via SD card after flasing a 1024 partition using CMR and the accompanying DAF.exe.
link is below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1275119
marcusloosewire99 said:
If you are looking for a good ROM, Team Blue Droid have produced an excellent sense 3.5 Rom which looks the business and works far better than many others I have flashed recently on mh EU HD2. I am not that technically minded regarding SD card partition types, but I run mine via SD card after flasing a 1024 partition using CMR and the accompanying DAF.exe.
link is below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1275119
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I totally agree. The latest version 2.2 is just fantastic
greg17477 said:
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@Nixda99
one question, what do you mean by:
"Only the dialer facebook integration of the sense dialer isn't there, but I don't have facebook and Co."?
When i get a call from a Facebook contact i can actually see its profile pic from facebook. On contact details i also see his status or last comment or whatever its called clicking on it, opens the facebook app and goes to this comment. is that what you meant?
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Yes!
There are missing also the hardware switching widgets (WLAN, Mobile Network...) but all is in the top status bar. You have only the contacts and the calendar widget, but it's enough for me.
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car01 said:
I totally agree. The latest version 2.2 is just fantastic
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But no hardware acceleration or with graphical glitches, only the new sense kernels should solve this problem. I don't know if there already stable.
How many free ram do you have after start with this rom?

Sense 4 and Sense 4 Lite?

Ok, so, I downloaded Taz's Sense 4 ROM. Wow, this is smooth. But one thing buggers me - is this some kind of Slim version of Sense? Because, for example, I don't seem to find the setting to modify the lockscreen style. And there are a few other things too. Could it be just that this is a leaked version, so not feature complete? Or is there something more complicated in this story?
It isn't. This is full Sense 4.0, but considering it's a leak, it may (or may not) be missing some features.
bogdan5844 said:
Ok, so, I downloaded Taz's Sense 4 ROM. Wow, this is smooth. But one thing buggers me - is this some kind of Slim version of Sense? Because, for example, I don't seem to find the setting to modify the lockscreen style. And there are a few other things too. Could it be just that this is a leaked version, so not feature complete? Or is there something more complicated in this story?
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The lockscreen shortcuts mirror whatever is on the dock.
Whatever Taz's rom is philosophically, it is a better fit for our phone than any of the sense 3.x roms. (though our devs did amazing work with those versions)
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The ROMs that taz and ajhavery have posted are based off the One V leak. The One V uses a stripped down version of Sense 4, it must be part of what HTC did to optimise the software for it. Some features are missing, like notification power toggles and customisable lockscreen shortcuts. These missing features are part of what makes it possible for it to be smooth.
the truth is this is Sense 4.0A.
We will be more sure when another sense 4 rom leaked.
Even though,I love this rom very much!!!
Hm,i dont think that missin power toggles and lockscreen links are enough to make a ROM (that challenges the specs of a htc one xl) fit the one V
There are many 3D effects in the "normal" Sense 4.
Any Menu where u can choose tabs at the bottom (for example the phone) are designed a cubes... so the effect if u changed the tabs is gone in S4 Light
The "recent Apps" Menu looks like the one of Android 4. Whereas the real Sense 4 has an 3D sight as when pressing shift+windows on Windows 7. Maybe the Flipclock has its 3D effect too, but hasnt realized that.
In the end, the devs will make the real Sense 4 running fluid on our phone as well just a matter of time
sense
hi does anyone know what the difference in battery usage is for sense 3 vs sense 4, Because I plan to root and I dont which to opt for
I dont mind the overal design its not a big thing
Hm, 4 is debloated and uses less ressources, so i guess it saves a bit of energy. We need a Display-brightness-mod to adjust the (way to powerful) brightness in dark areas. But if i am right, rooting and flashing the right rom (maybe with an OC Deamon) saves a lot battery, because it will underclock the CPU when theres no need for higher clockrates...
So, we might, no, surely will get a *full* Sense 4 experience once the devs get their hands on an official/final leaked rom?
Hm, I guess so. The light Sense 4 is more fitting the specs of the Desire Z. So, i think the priority of optimization goes to the light Build. Remember how long and (only devs know) how much work it took to make Sense 3.5 running fluid on desire z. I think Sense 4 (full) can fight on equal terms with 3.5
There is a hell of a lot work to do for the devs...
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Hm, I guess so. The light Sense 4 is more fitting the specs of the Desire Z. So, i think the priority of optimization goes to the light Build. Remember how long and (only devs know) how much work it took to make Sense 3.5 running fluid on desire z. I think Sense 4 (full) can fight on equal terms with 3.5
There is a hell of a lot work to do for the devs...
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Well, the first builds of Sense 3.5 which ran smoothly enough to not make you pull your hair out just arrived 8-9 weeks ago. Around the time ICS source code was released.
Anyway, HTC said that they tried to make Sense 4 more trimmed down. I do think they were referring to both their versions, not just the „lite” one, am I right?
I've read that Sense 4a is made to be lighter, for phones with less memory, like the G2. Lock screen customization is a feature that didn't make the cut.
Sense 4A is meant for the One V which has less powerful hardware. It's a slightly stripped down version of Sense 4 which the One X and One S will be running. I'm pretty sure HTC stripped it down a bit so that it could run smoothly on that hardware.
I also know that HTC admitted to Sense becoming bloated, and that they're trying to reduce the "bloat", which is why Sense 4 appears to be simpler and has a few features missing.
Well, I think that's fine. 4A seems to be on the lighter side. Sense tries to follow the principle of function and speed above glitter. It also seems to be on the minimal side when compared to 3.x...Hence the sacrifice of customization options as such.
Sent from my ILWT-powered DZ
I am currently trying out the new Sense 4.0A, and I quite like it.
I am coming from using a supercharged overclocked Energy Rom with swap enabled, which is OK (its my DD), apart from a couple of things - performance on games such as cut the rope etc is laggy, and opening mail/messages can take up to ten seconds sometimes.
The only issues I have currently with the new sense (apart from the camera of course) is that I cannot work out if it is possible to have more than 5 home screen panels. I don't know if I have just not worked it out or if it is a limitation of Sense 'lite'.
I can live with that by using folders anyway.
I think I would rather go for the cut down version that still keeps most of the functionality, and gain speed and reliability. Seriously, as soon as the camera works I think this is a DD for me.
I am currently testing a Sense 4.0 ROM and I really like it. Cannot wait until everything is running correct.

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