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Hello everybody; Sorry for this silly question, but it seems i cannot fully power off my smartphone in order to have it full charge the battery whithout the phone being on. By this i mean the smartphone totaly powered off and not only having deactivated the radio section of the phone which deals with the mobile phone section of the appliance and the bluetooth ; When i press on the power button, the only thing that happens is that the display switches off and not the smartphone; I was accustomed to a real switch off on my other smartphone P900 withj symbian UIQ 7.0
Have i missed something or is this condition a feature /bug of the phone or microsoft windows mobile 2003?
Thanking you all in advance for any input i remain
Arnaud
Hi, I'm new here. Just known XDA II for two weeks.
About ur question, I think it's not a bug but rather a feature. U can turn off the phone by click the phone icon at the top bar.
I would hate it if I can't power off the pda without the phone is on.
'cause when I sleep I really don't need the pda section. :wink:
Hi
Yes, you missed something...
A "real" power-down is similar to a hard-reset, and believe me, you won't do a hard-reset if it is not totally necessary.
The XDA unpackes the program files at powerup into its sdrams and keeps the data in the sdrams when it is switch off. Of course this sdrams need power to keep the data.
Otherwise, you can still remove the battery :wink:
But, I agree, it would be interessting to know how long the battery lastest when the phone is switch off.
regards,
actually, you CAN remove the battery
after all, the battery IS removable.... and intended to be replaced.
But then your PPC will be on the "backup battery" and 30 minutes
later you will lose all your data. too bad.
The fact is, not only you absolutely cannot turn this thing off,
if you're down to 5% power and will be awhile before you
plug it for more power,
YOU BETTER TURN IT OFF AND TURN THE PHONE OFF
if you somehoe run down the battery to zero with a phone call,
you will have a hard reset in 30 minutes ....
this is all the result of the STUPID MS DECISION, long time ago,
not to put all the critical data/install/whatever in FLASH / SD card.
this is all the result of the STUPID MS DECISION, long time ago,
not to put all the critical data/install/whatever in FLASH / SD card.
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It wasn't a bad decision for the time - memory that kept its contents without power was very expensive, and very slow. It's still not great. Symbian went the no-power memory route, and the earlier devices (Nokia 9200 series) were crippled by it (CPU underclocked to 56MHz to cope with the memory, and too little memory to do everything people wanted).
Don't forget, you can't just use regular flash memory - it's still too slow, and will wear out with too many write cycles, however a good feature would be a 'hibernate' mode that dumps the static ram to flash ram, and restores on power up. Sort of like the *FlashMan utilities, but actually useful.
Could some experts please kindly explain how to by pass the above mentioned WARNING111.
I need to upgrade the ROM RUU16006WWE_T-mobile_NL.exe through activesync (i.e. not SD/ bootloader methods), but have a problem with the battery as the device won't charge.
thanks an HAPPY NEW YEAR!!
I believe there should NOT be a way for this bypass. It is originally made to prevent having a $500 worthy paper weight if the XDA went out of power during the ROM upgrade.
BTW, what your gonna do after the upgrade if your battery doesn't charge anyway ????
It doesn't matter what I want to do with the device after upgrade even if the device won't charge....
FYI, I have a problem and one of the important step to cure (I believe) is to be able to successfully flash all ROMs (CE & GSM). THen (I hope) all the programs loaders are functoning properly i.e. recognizing the power plugged in / battery charging etc. etc.) (this has been dicussed in full length in another thread).
So, I just want to know if there is any tricks to get around this...
But thanks for your comments..anyway..
Hi, this my first ever thread.
Recently, I have bought a used O2 Exec but running on Dopod ROM (ver 1.30.111 WWE date 04/06/06), Radio ver. 1.11.00, Protocal ver 42.45.P8, ExtROM 1.30.230 WWE.
The device runs on Windows Mobile 5 and everything seems to be stable until the battery level falls below 55%. The screen suddenly becomes blank and the device shuts down by itself. When I press the power button it would boot up to Dopod logo then the Microsoft Windows Mobile and it finally shuts down. Even if I remove the battery and placing it back, pressing the power button would only reboot up to the Microsoft Windows Mobile, then shut down. I could only reboot when I plug in the AC power adapter.
Sometimes it even happens even battery level at 70%!
This problem occurs on the first day I bought the device from an XDA-developer member in Subang Jaya, Malaysia. When I request for assistance he suggest I refer to this forum.
I would be grateful if someone can help me out to resolve this issue. I am only using standard software (no third party) so eliminate possible software conflicts. I believe the battery could be the culprit but I have no resources to verify this.
Thank you
Forum is full of posts like yours. The problem is in the battery. You have to get a new one.
TQ tailazoom for ur info
based on my experience,,,,, 100% caused by battery issue.
plz change battery ASAP due to it maybe damage your hardware.
thanks
Hi,
Same thing happened to me - bought a new battery - problem solved.
One point I think you must buy the proper OEM battery like this one here:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/7857.htm
Regards
Matt
got my BA flashed with WM6.0(russian firmware)...VERY stable version...but!
if i pull off battery on_the_fly, or got battery discharged then on next boot i got first two lines "R: none G: none"
the only help is reset-button. after that it boots ok with (R: 1.15....etc)
how to get rid of that minor bug?
there is no way of getting rid of that bug, it is like the 4 colour screen. it comes with every rom here, so for soft-resetting use the proper soft-reset istead of pulling the battery off. since there is no proper airplane mode in most of these roms and the phone keeps re-enabling itself, you can use that "feature" to have the ppc working without phone functuality
hm...no good(
that means that everybody got this stuff(WM6.0) not working _properly_?
well, actually it is working properly, i used to wonder about that too, but there's no point in complaining. it is just a given fact and you have to learn to live with it. little things like that are, despite the fact that the BA is huge and doesn't have much battery power, reasons, why people go off and buy new devices. also there are minor bugs in wlan and bluetooth that come with every rom here. that's the way it is, and that's the price you have to pay for upgrading your phone instead of buying a new one and i for one think, that's a rather low price
to get back to the point: as i use sun_dream's finger-friendly build 20758 and have lost my stylus about a year ago, for soft-resetting i also don't use the stylus hole, but use the today screen icon that comes with xcpuscalar, which of course wouldn't work, when the device freezes, but then i simply take out the battery, start over, and when the device is ready i soft-reset from the icon. it is not the ideal way, as by that you somehow delete your wlan settings as well, but still i'm happy, my precious old BA still is up to date
soft reset
every rom after WM5 in BLUE ANGEL needs soft reset after u see this case,then works normally.thnx.
most times, u will need to do a soft-reset at the 1st cold boot (replace battery and so on). as Chef_Tony mentioned, we all just have to remeber do that.
Got a HTC P3450 that won't respond to anything. Plug in USB, nothing. Plug in charger, nothing. Hard reset, nothing.
Throw in the bin or is resurrection possible?
Can you try to press the power + camera button together?
Do you see a bootloader screen.
If the phone still wont start , it maybe one of these issues.
- Battery totally dead
- Motherboard Issue (Which you are screwed)
- Power button issue.
Ok I tried the power + camera button together and nothing happened.
I have two batteries and neither work. I tried power + camera button together with the unit plugged into the power socket and via USB and that didn't do anything either.
So I guess it's down to a bad motherboard or a power button issue. Although if it was just a power button issue the charge light or something would come on or something yeh?
100% no power on, everything tried
I bricked my ELF01000 but Dopod 601 China by ....
shameful mistake of rebuilding the ROM without erasing the "backup" word from: -
backup_GSM.nb
backup_IPL.nb
backup_mainsplash.nb
backup_os.nb
backup_spl.nb
hence now can't even power on from
1. camera+power+reset once and hold camera+power
2. phone dial and disconnect together + reset once and hold phone dial and disconnect
3. regular reset
4. battery removed - plugged in USB
5. battery removed - plugged in adaptor from mains
6. battery inside + USB or mains
7. battery from another elf with over 70% power
8. plugged into adaptor from mains overnight 8 hours
9. all no orange light on the indicator
Even if every software code is wrong, the indicator light should be ON right???
all failed
simply won't power on,
if only can get into bootloader >>...........
Ohmy, thats bad.
Could it be like a bad motherboard or connector issue?
actually it's not my own ELF, sorry!!! misinformed you all.
It's my friend's Dopod S1.
I've surrendered my ELF HK english WWE to him as a replacement.
Currently using Asus P552w GalaxyMini2, although much faster but extremely unstable and buggy
resisting to buy a blackstone , may be will try the rumoured release of LEO ????
Anyway, still hope someone can provide some light to this "can't power on at all issue".
cx5 said:
I bricked my ELF01000 but Dopod 601 China by ....
shameful mistake of rebuilding the ROM without erasing the "backup" word from: -
backup_GSM.nb
backup_IPL.nb
backup_mainsplash.nb
backup_os.nb
backup_spl.nb
hence now can't even power on from
1. camera+power+reset once and hold camera+power
2. phone dial and disconnect together + reset once and hold phone dial and disconnect
3. regular reset
4. battery removed - plugged in USB
5. battery removed - plugged in adaptor from mains
6. battery inside + USB or mains
7. battery from another elf with over 70% power
8. plugged into adaptor from mains overnight 8 hours
9. all no orange light on the indicator
Even if every software code is wrong, the indicator light should be ON right???
all failed
simply won't power on,
if only can get into bootloader >>...........
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If you are using a genuine htc elf.
You can try the gold card and unbricking methods at the htc upgrading forum.
cx5 said:
actually it's not my own ELF, sorry!!! misinformed you all.
It's my friend's Dopod S1.
I've surrendered my ELF HK english WWE to him as a replacement.
Currently using Asus P552w GalaxyMini2, although much faster but extremely unstable and buggy
resisting to buy a blackstone , may be will try the rumoured release of LEO ????
Anyway, still hope someone can provide some light to this "can't power on at all issue".
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Get an android phone, under htc, heard that it was better.
Hi Jeremy (nice to have someone to chat with, thanks)
I believe my friend's ELF is a genuine unit, it had pof's SPL 1.11. And a Chinese guy cooked his own rom and named it Guilin2008.02.22. Plus I could dump everything using the "automated backup.bat". Device ID by dsixda also read well.
The problem now is it could not even turn on to white screen or bootloader. I though at least it must have some power response, or else gold card unbricker won't start right?
So you recommend the "android" ..... I haven't study it at all..... though keep to WM, easy WMDC with outlook each..... plus I'm itching to get a bigger screen type, like blackstone, but ouch it's not only big, but expensive too.
Say, ELF's 200Mhz sometimes feel faster than Niki's 400Mhz (my director's unit), and also faster than Blackstone's 528Mhz (my CEO's unit). I think blackstone uses too many 3D ...... if I ever get one, must replace the rom with light versions...
Anyway, learning to cook my own now, only managed to dump, but still don't understand enough to cook.... well keep reading
Hello CX5,
Thanks alot for dropping by XDA, without you, there wont be me, either.
Yeah, I feel that those devices with more processing power, HTC would usually like to cramp lots of useless animations to the device, thus taking up more space and more power and make the phone slower, so you will buy a new set soon.
Talking about your elf, I cant really help, you may have to drop by your closest service centre for a checkup. I am only more technically inclined to software issues, so hopefully, someone with technical knowledge is able to help you with this.
Android is really a good OS, I managed to install it on my ELF recently, just to give a spin on how it works. Its great, good to use and most importantly, open source.
I seen the newspaper recently, and have you heard about that famous MP3 player brand called Creative, those people originated from my hometown, Singapore. They recently lauched a new phone which comes with their own OS or Google Android, and it cost around $120 USD for Telecoms to buy and rebrand themselves.
I clearly see Android being the next OS, and on top of that, Microsoft's Office is teaming up with Nokia, to install Microsoft Office Mobile onto Nokia Symbian phones.
With that,
I wish you all the best for your phone ( A New one, probably )
Jeremy
Thanks again Jeremy
yeah, my friend's send the wrongly_flash ELF to a hwardware repair, let you know outcome later.
say, just realized Iolite is 528Mhz, I'm able to get it at RMB 1.8k ~ USD225, was my favorite choice before laying eyes on Blackstone.
hmmmmmm. android good on ELF eh............
ok, study study study...................
Hahaha, you are from China?
I have so many China friends at my country in Singapore.
They do so well in maths and chinese, good talent!
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To be frank with you, just choose a phone you like, and suit your budget and get it. Its too hard catching what is new as there is something new everyday.
Even for myself, im studying too. So ya, money is quite hard to come sometimes.
Iolite sound great, Blackstone is better.
Blackstone has so many apps available, and they have more support in their community there.
Have you checked out the android phones, htc magic and htc dream?
They are quite cool.
Best Of Luck in Studies,
Jeremy
Hi again
Actually I'm Malaysian, working in HK, often visit to factory in China, while my main customers in Taiwan, finally with little visit to customers in Japan.
Anyway, I still like the Iolite design, but screen is not big enough , while blackstones screen is big and nice, but complaining it can't fit into pocket comfortable. Anyway......
I haven't got a chance to study the android, magic or dream. Too busy working. But will someday.
Yes, best of luck to studies.
Oh, all the best for your dream phone!