got my BA flashed with WM6.0(russian firmware)...VERY stable version...but!
if i pull off battery on_the_fly, or got battery discharged then on next boot i got first two lines "R: none G: none"
the only help is reset-button. after that it boots ok with (R: 1.15....etc)
how to get rid of that minor bug?
there is no way of getting rid of that bug, it is like the 4 colour screen. it comes with every rom here, so for soft-resetting use the proper soft-reset istead of pulling the battery off. since there is no proper airplane mode in most of these roms and the phone keeps re-enabling itself, you can use that "feature" to have the ppc working without phone functuality
hm...no good(
that means that everybody got this stuff(WM6.0) not working _properly_?
well, actually it is working properly, i used to wonder about that too, but there's no point in complaining. it is just a given fact and you have to learn to live with it. little things like that are, despite the fact that the BA is huge and doesn't have much battery power, reasons, why people go off and buy new devices. also there are minor bugs in wlan and bluetooth that come with every rom here. that's the way it is, and that's the price you have to pay for upgrading your phone instead of buying a new one and i for one think, that's a rather low price
to get back to the point: as i use sun_dream's finger-friendly build 20758 and have lost my stylus about a year ago, for soft-resetting i also don't use the stylus hole, but use the today screen icon that comes with xcpuscalar, which of course wouldn't work, when the device freezes, but then i simply take out the battery, start over, and when the device is ready i soft-reset from the icon. it is not the ideal way, as by that you somehow delete your wlan settings as well, but still i'm happy, my precious old BA still is up to date
soft reset
every rom after WM5 in BLUE ANGEL needs soft reset after u see this case,then works normally.thnx.
most times, u will need to do a soft-reset at the 1st cold boot (replace battery and so on). as Chef_Tony mentioned, we all just have to remeber do that.
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Dear All,
I have had my SPV now for about 4 weeks now and very pleased with it. However, twice in the last week it hasn't responded when I turned it
on and ended up removing and re-inserting the battery. When it comes back, it starts with the "Welcome to Pocket PC" setup wizard and all my data is gone.
Has anyone else had this problem. This problem has happened with both
versions of the ROM. The only s/w I am running is
Tube (VisualIT)
MS Arcade Pack (Pacman, DigDug etc)
MS Voice Command
Agenda Fusion
CityTime
Regards & Thanks
Chris
Yeah i got the same problem. But it happens when I upgraded my ExtRom from Orange.com. Sometimes it stays at suspend mode, then i have to perform a hard reset to wake up the device. Very odd.
dfens said:
Dear All,
I have had my SPV now for about 4 weeks now and very pleased with it. However, twice in the last week it hasn't responded when I turned it
on and ended up removing and re-inserting the battery. When it comes back, it starts with the "Welcome to Pocket PC" setup wizard and all my data is gone.
Has anyone else had this problem. This problem has happened with both
versions of the ROM.
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I have had my M1000 for about four weeks too now and although it occasionally soft resets it never fails to respond to the power button. Maybe you have a faulty phone?
On a different note, you say you have Voice Command, I was looking for places that sell it in the UK but it appears to only be available in the US, if you could let me know where you got it I would be really grateful.
Hope you sort your phone out!
Fin
High all
No probs so far
Swiss m1000 installed Programs
Pocket Hack Master ( Overlock your PDA )
Pocket Mechanic ( Clean Defragment and more )
Snails ( adictive Worms(TM) Clone )
Crazy Cart ( adictive Mario Cart(TM) clone
and lots more.
Im overlocking my CPU to 530 MHZ and no Trubbles so far.
Got the thing for two months now, running in this config for about one month.
Peace
Yep, I am having the same problem or much the same problem. The unite works fine until every four or five days when I notice that the bluetooth light and the green phone radio light are flashing (even though bluetooth is turned off). It does not respond to the power button and then lights go off when I try a soft reset. The only way I can get it back on it with a hard reset.
It does not seem to be a battery issue as the battery is fully charged and when I try plugging in the Charger (before doing the hard reset) the charging light does not light up. I have had the same problem with several M1000s from Orange.
Anyone have any ideas at to what might be going on?
Thanks,
Steve
Yep, I am having the same problem or much the same problem. The unite works fine until every four or five days when I notice that the bluetooth light and the green phone radio light are flashing (even though bluetooth is turned off). It does not respond to the power button and then lights go off when I try a soft reset. The only way I can get it back on it with a hard reset.
It does not seem to be a battery issue as the battery is fully charged and when I try plugging in the Charger (before doing the hard reset) the charging light does not light up. I have had the same problem with several M1000s from Orange.
Anyone have any ideas at to what might be going on?
Thanks,
Steve
With Orange Switzerland SPV M1000 I experience the following problems:
1) Bluetooth lights (blue light) and the battery lights flashes even though
bluetooth is not connected and the battery level is fine.
2) Once every other day the device (though fully charged) freezes and I end up doing soft reset.
3) Removing battery already puts the device to soft reset. Orange
4) The activeSync is running without me having to start any activeSync session.
5) Abruptly I get message the memory is full and the device then freeses.
Is anyone having the above problems? How do i resove this?
Many thanks
Swissmate
SteveD said:
Yep, I am having the same problem or much the same problem. The unite works fine until every four or five days when I notice that the bluetooth light and the green phone radio light are flashing (even though bluetooth is turned off). It does not respond to the power button and then lights go off when I try a soft reset. The only way I can get it back on it with a hard reset.
It does not seem to be a battery issue as the battery is fully charged and when I try plugging in the Charger (before doing the hard reset) the charging light does not light up. I have had the same problem with several M1000s from Orange.
Anyone have any ideas at to what might be going on?
Thanks,
Steve
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SAME PROBLEM AS THE REST OF YOU WHO HAVE THEIR SPV FREEZED UP VERY OFTEN. IN MY CASE IT'S EVERY 3 OR 4 DAYS, POWER BUTTON AND SOFT REST DOES NOT RESPONDE, SO IT'S EITHER HARD RESET OR SOMETIMES SIMPLY REMOVING THE BATTERY DOES THE WORK. I HAD MY PHONE REPLACED 3 TIMES ALREADY AND STILL THE SAME PROBLEM EVEN WITHOUT INSTALLING ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE BUT WHAT CAME BUNDLE WITH THE ORANGE PHONE. IS THIS A ROM BUG ???
SPV M1000 FRANCE
SD CARD 1 GB
OMEGA ONE BATTERY PACK PRO
OMEGA ONE JOURNAL BAR
SPB GPRS MONITORS.
FORTUNATELY I USE THE X BACKUP PROVIDED WITH THE PHONE TO SAVE MY DATA, BUT IT'S TIME COMSUMMING AND REPETITIVE AS AFTER EACH TIME THE PHONE RESETS ITSELF, I HAVE TO RESTORE IT AGAIN AND AGAIN. :evil: :twisted:
IF SOMEBODY COULD IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM, THIS WOULD HELP A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE ME
THANKS
RICHARD
There have been frequent reports of this problem- Orange are aware of it, and are replacing M1000's as required. They are currently testing a new ROM, so it appears that they think it may be a ROM problem, though it could also be a batch of faulty hardware.
Another possibility
Turning off the record button seems to have helped, could it be that this is being caught and filling memory / draining batrtery?
3rd phone 3 weeks.
Great when working - anyone using a GPS receiver? Tried a TomTom with an XDA 2 lead is not recognised
Re: Another possibility
BobW said:
anyone using a GPS receiver? Tried a TomTom with an XDA 2 lead is not recognised
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Remember you have to turn of the IR in settings>connections>beam before a GPS will be recognised.
NeilM said:
There have been frequent reports of this problem- Orange are aware of it, and are replacing M1000's as required. They are currently testing a new ROM, so it appears that they think it may be a ROM problem, though it could also be a batch of faulty hardware.
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we got almost 30 of these at our work, it seems the only one to have this problem is... my one! so i swapped it for another one and it did the same problem... hmm, they must not like power users, the other users are idiots so they dont really mess about with the settings n all
anyhooz, ill be upgrading all of em to SE very soon and i doubt that rom will have the same glitch...
who knows... now that we can confirm (99%) that SE works on the xda II maybe the operators will now make an official upgrade to SE... they have no reason not to
regards
djrm.net said:
we got almost 30 of these at our work, it seems the only one to have this problem is... my one! so i swapped it for another one and it did the same problem... hmm, they must not like power users, the other users are idiots so they dont really mess about with the settings n all
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Hmm. That is interesting. Only having one here - and having problems - I do not have much to compare.
Do you think the problem comes from changing the standard settings or using extra software then?
By the way the new ROM does not seem to make much difference in terms of this problem, alas!
Exactly the same thing to me...
Every 5 or 6 days... it goes of for no reason, and the only way to wake it up is to hard reset it! weird SPV... maybe some day a nice guy will come up with a solution to our problem! Hopefully...
:shock:
To keep an old thread alive
Those experiencing issues with this device going into coma (requiring Hard Reset to clear)please would you post detailed accounts of when the issue occurs.
Please confirm power settings, what applications were open on the device and whether the radio or BT was on.
Does the problem occur off or on charge, if on does same problem occur if charged from travel charger not dock?
If off charge, if known - state both internal and external battery charge levels when problem occurs?
What is seen on the handset at point of coma?
Working from soft Reset through battery off to hard reset, what was necessary to restore the device and did soft reset or battery off result in a dump?
Could ROM V's and bootloader V's also be stated.
cheers guy's, together we'll crack it
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:roll: I have had my phone from about June last year. The first reset occurred about the 3rd Jan this and two more occurring in the past few weeks the last one on sat 12th Feb
The history as I can recall with the last reset is as follows. I took the phone out from work (cradle) Friday afternoon after 4pm don’t think it was put to charge again before the incident also the phone was not used very often as its a work phone. It was on stand by all day Saturday with the green light flashing but no signal input was being received as I was expecting a cal which never came only to find out the phone was off as mentioned by the caller when I called them. Got home about 530pm with the light still flashing and tried to switch the phone on after finding out no signal was received, the light then went out. Could remember this quite distinctly as it happed on the previous occasion. To activate the phone i have to take the battery and sim card out as with the previous occasion put the card in another/different phone to activate it (make a cal) then put the card and battery back in for the phone to work when it would then go through the reset process. Once working on checking, both battery powers were very low think less than 50% as when i checked some time after they were up to 75%
Am in an office with 3 other users and the only one with this problem and am on my 3rd phone since the year started. It seems to be linked with low battery power (both) and extended stand by when it completely shuts down. Trust this would help to get us a stage further.
i have had two m1000's with this problem,
orangecare stepped up for the replacement and i upgraded the 2nd to win2003se and it still does it!
i make scheduled backups now and have learnt to live with it until my contract expires..
on another seperate note..
Remember you have to turn of the IR in settings>connections>beam before a GPS will be recognised.
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how do i do this in 2003se?
MORE ON THIS
I had an M1000 that worked fine but a small problem occured and orange replaced it - the new one had this problem every 7 days or so - the bluetooth light was flashing although not switched on and when I try to turn phone on it wont - remove/replace bat and resets - I upgraded to ROM 2.02 from this forum but was using origional orange extended rom and it made no difference - if it is a rom problem its in oranges extended rom
I was on a 166wwe - boot loader 1.06 - dont know radio version but was still happening after DCM 2.02 WM2003SE WWE from this forum with radio 1.18.00 and original ORANGE ext rom so if is on ROM is definatley oranges ext rom that has a problem. - HAS ANYONE HAD THIS HAPPEN WHILE ON CHARGE????
THEY REPLACED MY PHONE WITH A REFURB - ITS NOW FINE BUT IM NOT HAPPY
guys lets think here
were all orange subs so its got to be an orange thing (so unlikley to be hardware) - there are people here (myself included) who have upgraded radio and OS so I am begining to think it is in the extended rom on these machines - has anyone who has replaced extended rom had this trouble - I would experiment but no longer have this fault - I never thought Id wish I could get it back but now I think I can see a resolve
we need an orange customer who does not have this trouble to post extended rom on here for us all to try????? - - - Please ??????
it would be nice to crack this one guys keep plugging on
Had my M100 nearly a year now and after many many resets decided to call Orange as I would have thought this was a known problem with them. But according to technical they have never seen this before!!!
There response was ... backup your data! doh!
I told them I did and it was unacceptable to say this as the thing is faulty it takes over an hour to reload the data and it's happend 4 times since I called them 4 days ago.
:twisted:
PS: has anyone got a copy of the original 1.66 rom as you can no longer get it from Orange.
Right guys and girls, this "coma" stuff is driving me MAD!!!!!!!!!
okie the latest example is last night i put the XDA on charge not in the cradle as usual as i was not at home, but that seems to make no difference, anyhow i turn the screen off by pushing the power button (top left) yellow light turns on and begins to charge, next morning i pick up the device to use it and nothing.....not a sausage, dead as a doe-doe.
Im not able to power it on, im not able to "wake it up" with a call to it, buttons do not work at all, screen is dead, the yellow light stays on even when charger not connected, however it turns of several hours later.
Ok at this point in the past the only way to fix this was to hard-reset it, which is a royal pain in the arse as you all know, and lost all my info i worked on, on that last trip.
Except this time, it really is dead, Hard-reset dont work, removing the main battery and letter the internal one take the hit dont work, verious combos of reset, hard-reset, with and without battery. nothing
nope, this time it seems totally screwed, anyone have any ideas
O2 is going to get an angery phone call, as soon as there tech support peeps goes back to work after the weekend, they said originally it was just a glitch and i was to update my software (rom). Some damn glitch!
Anyhow in a bid to remain slightly more sain than i will be i was hoping that some of you guys have had a problem like this or even better know how to fix it
How you can help
Regards
Darren
O2 is going to get an angery phone call, as soon as there tech support peeps goes back to work after the weekend, they said originally it was just a glitch and i was to update my software (rom). Some damn glitch!
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well maybe your phone is just broken
being angry at o2 will not help anything they dont make the hardware they dont make the software they just sell the device
Hum, intresting, before i start, O2 is to blame, in the world of retail and more importantly sales contracts, they are my first and direct point of call, in law, when i give them cash and they except it, they are entering in a contract which sticks them in the position to be blamed, however it is not about blame, its about getting somthing done about it, and they are the people who pull the stings, i do understand that they do not make these devices but thats not the point.
16 year old kids may be a bit put out when there phone stops working, however those who need there phone / PDA to work have more issues when things go wrong.
Whats more intresting is that 1 hour ago, the phone unexpectedly turned on by its self, although not surprisingly, all the data was lost. It seems to of woke its self up when the last remaints of power in the internal battery was about to die, to tell me this information.
Whilest i cant conferm this, if the others who have had this problem before
were to leave the phone off the charger for the battery to die, without trying the usual hard reset, i would expect it to wake up to tell you its about to die and then at this point plug the charger back in and hay presto!
well i'm not saying that you cant sue or demand your money back or place the blame on o2 i'm just saying that you cant expect then to solve your problem apart from reporting the issue to thc who again can blame it on microsoft
dazza8082,
What ROM version do you have on your machine?
I had the same problem with my MDA2 which came with ROM version 1.60 or something like that, but I managed to upgrade my MDA2 to 1.72WWE that I found somewhere in this forums and the problem was solved ever since. I even had lots of sudden SD memory wipes, so far so good... It's been like 4 or 5 months since the upgrade and counting...
The upgrade procedure was performed via the cradle and not via the SD card. But if for some reason you can't manage to boot your device you can always try the SD upgrade method.
I really don't remember the procedure but you can find lots of information somewhere in this forums.
Have you tried to get into Boot mode and then reset the device just to see what happens?
Press the Power button, the reset button and the joypad down at the same time and you should see a DOS-like screen indicating you are in boot mode, from there just press the reset button by itself and see if that helps. You will loose all your data with this procedure, but at this point chances are that you already lost everything in the device anyways.
Best of luck!
I make a ROM upgrade for WM6(1st versions) three week past.
Works for 2 days and after this, when i reset or turn ON, show the Rom versions numbers normaly and when it should enter in Mobile Windows, the screen distorts and they show some vertical lines.
I try reinstall the others ROM, but nothing.
What i do.
Thanks,
Fersoft
Wish I could help
Sounds like its been dropped or knocked. I've never heard of anything like this previously. I've been upgrading for years on all types of htc phones. I may be corrected but I do not see how a ROM can ruin your model in this way.
Have you got the original back up of the ROM that you started with?
I can olny enter in USB mode.
What ROM to RESERT completly my Pocketpc ?
Thanks any help.
Have you tried to flash an original ROM from the three color screen?
WM6 is the problem...
I got the same problem as you dude.... sounds like crossbow version isn't really suited for prophet. And I guess we'll get more and more of these troubles while more and more users are tested it (at least the first versions). I guess it has something to do with power management, and the way WM6 handles the battery. Mine got better after I flashed it back to WM5, but it still had the problem, and I had to send it back to warranty...
While you find a "solution", you can get it to work again for a few hours by letting it turned off for a few hours, battery out. That way I could flash it back to another rom. But still, after a few hours it would crash or reset itself, and you'll have to let it off without battery for a moment...
If an admin read this, I guess it could be VERY usefull to stick it to let people know they can arm their device that way.
Good luck
Amazing. I got exactly the same problem.
I am back to WM5, however, I still cant use the phone properly. After ten minutes into a phone call it crashes. When I reset I get until the OS loading screen (sometimes it even omits the radio rom number which usually comes between the SPL and OS). Then the screen distorts and thats it.
If I get the battery out for a short while and then connect it to the charger, I can restart the phone after 1-2 hours and it will load properly. However, again after 10 minutes into a phone call it crashes.
Any idea if a new battery would help, because I get more and more the feeling that something is actually wrong with the power/battery system.
Is WM6 even a final version?
I don't see any equipment running WM6 as of now, that's why i asked.
really? I don't think so.
However, every MS software still has a lot of a bug....
I have the same problem, but now even a bigger problem !
I have NO backup!
I don't know how to get it back to the original rom because mine freezes with the screen when the os version is in screen!
Damn, I only got the phone back for 4 hours because is was getting repared for a speaker failure.
and isn't that ironic..
My 614c is getting more and more ****ed up.
First it started out with that the battery meter always is 100%, so I have no idea when the battery is low. The phone won't charge when on unless i push the powerbutton to "sleep mode" or i turn the phone off.
Also the two buttons below the screen doesn't work and my scroll wheel(smart scroll) neither. Not sure if that happened before or after the battery meter problem.
To add to that the backlighting isn't working anymore either. I've tried new ROMs but it's the same problem on all of them.
This is my second 614c, first one the USB connection stopped working and it was replaced by HP.
And i don't think I'll get a new replacement phone again. My phone has a scratch on the screen and a few scratches on the shell from dropping it. I would need to reflash it to Swedish ROM too if i send it in, but I don't have the original rom anymore.
Anyone else had similar problems? And is it worth trying to get a replacement?
There have been members with battary issues but that seems to be fixed or at least improved with a replacement battary.
Have you tried flashing with another rom to see if the new rom you flashed with is the cause?
Considering the age of the phone now, i'd probally not get another one. Would look into the VGA screens, HW keyboards, Android maybe etc.
Thats said i'm very happy with mine and have had no issues with battary or hardware.
New ROMS from xda and especially Sergiorus has made it an excellent phone for me.
It's an old topic, but I recently had the same issue. Removing the battery solved the problem as long as I didn't put the phone in standby.
Good news is, after a factory recovery, the problem was solved, so other iPaq suffering from this problem aren't ready for the trash yet
Hi, I'm having a big problem with my device, I've bought the European version and didn't touch the ROM or radio for a cool 3 months, but I often update to the latest Cookie HT, and lots of different apps. Then it got a weird behavior that if I use the device and it got a little hot it would restart by itself and after the restart got stuck on the white logo screen. It would happen often when plugged and Activesynced to my computer.
I lived with this situation for the past month but now I had enough, I've updated the radio to the latest I could find, and the ROM to Energy with Cookie HT.
Now it's worse, I can't get it to stable on the Home screen, I can see it but can't play with anything, stuck...
And BTW when it get stuck the bottom of the phone is quite hot, even if I left it for quite some time.
Edit : The Sense UI isn't loading and it actually a good bug, cause the device is running smoothly even on ActiveSync. It feels like the CHT is to blame, at least the latest one to date.
Edit 2 : Sorry, I was wrong, now it got stuck during SPB backup restoring connected to ActiveSync.
Edit 3, Sorry 2 : I've let it cool, turned it on and somehow the CHT is back and working wonderfully, this is weirder then I thought.
Edit 4 : I've managed to run Android 2.1 Desire and it was running good until it got a little warm and then froze. I'm beginning to suspect this is a hardware issue.
I realy need help feaguring this one out.
I've replaced a couple of Radio versions and this device keep jamming up, it's now unusable. I need to get it relaxed and cold before I try to turn it on again.
Can it be that the ROM is responsible ? should I go back to the stock with no mod at all (it would KILL me though).
I'm frastrated and thinking of selling the phone if anyone would buy this piece of crap.
i am in the same boat mate.
mine is going back to htc tomorrow.
In the end i removed everything and took the rom/radio back to stock still the 'heat' issue exists.
It has been like this on test for nearly two weeks if i try to run the youtube app the phone switches off anything more intense and it hard resets itself.
I have learnt that if you leave it too cool down battery out etc it will switch back on and if you do nothing but make phone calls it will be ok?
Having read alot it appears this issue happens if the device goes over a certain temp. For example folks have been moaning about the phone switching off if used in a car whilst charging running sat nav.
I advise you to contact htc as i have done.
you may have already done this, but did you do a task 29 before flashing the rom (task 29 wipes the phone and gives you a clean base to start from). Also delete the application data on your mem card(important). If your phone wont boot you can enter the bootloader by removing batt and holding vol down as soon as you you put the batt back in,This will put you onto bootloader screen ( if you have hspl installed?) from here you can do task 29 and reflash your chosen rom. Oh and make sure you have required radio for the rom you choose. hope this is of some help thought id try
Just wanted to update that HTC took an effort and accepted my unwarranted device for fixing. They replaced the board and sent it back on their expense. The device now is working flawlessly !
Thanks to HTC for a GREAT customer service and support !!!