I just got the TP2 for USCC last week. (WM6.5) I haven't used WM in about 2 years and am pretty dissapointed to find a lot of the same issues that were present then. I used to be a fairly competent WM user with above average knowledge in registry editing, ROM flashing, etc but most of what I used to use seems to have changed. So far I have found the fixes for the sms sent notification and the organization of the contact list by last name, first to first, last.
I've been all over these forums and cannot find a fix to disable the onscreen keyboard from auto-popping...ever. Also, in the sound settings menu, there is a slider to adjust ringer volume and another to adjust system volume yet these two don't work independently. I want system volume loud for hearing things like my IM app that runs in the background yet have the ringer volume lower as it's over bearing on full.
Something else I have noticed is that some settings menus appear to be there but not functioning. For instance, under settings>all settings>today there is a 2nd tab for items that does not change from the appearance tab. I've notice several menu's like this throughout the phone. It seems like there are things that other versions of WM may have had that this doesn't or simply that Microsoft/HTC got lazy in the initial release and either did not remove tabs that were not intended to be there or forgot to finish some that should. Just wondering if anyone has some insight into this.
I'm also looking for a good free IM client. I've seen many apps across these forums but with so many out there, it's hard to find the right one for me. I refuse to pay $45 for Agile messenger (although I've seen hacked versions but I would prefer not to deal with that). It's a decent app, not great but decent but $45 for a very simple app is outrageous. So, I found Slick ( http://slick.en.softonic.com/windowsmobile ) which is a free app and works great! The only feature it is missing that I liked about Agile is a notification (similar to the annoying sms message sent notification that I removed) while the app is in standby. Does anyone know of another free IM app that is simple and has that feature? I only use Google Talk and have noticed some apps specifically for that but there are so many to try, I'm hoping someone has a good recommendation to save me some time.
The last thing I'm curious about pertains to Manila. I see Manila all over these forums. I've done some reading on it and have a good understanding of what manila is. But, it's very confusing as some thread talk about reflashing ROMS for it and others talk about installing cabs over your current rom for it. Does anyone have a link to a good thread(s) that will explain things more clearly so I can make an educated decision on the best way to try this out? A, Manila for Dummies, if you will.
Thanks in advance for any help!
Edit: It looks like the "Manila" Touch Flo design is incorporated in WM 6.5 on my device already? Is this mainly the custom tabs located at the bottom of the today screen?
CeLlgUy said:
...to disable the onscreen keyboard from auto-popping...
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There's an option to disable "Auto Deploy SIP" in Advanced Configuration Tool.
CeLlgUy said:
... Also, in the sound settings menu, there is a slider to adjust ringer volume and another to adjust system volume yet these two don't work independently....
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Go to "Settings" tab, tap "Sound", turn off "Single Volume Control".
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... under settings>all settings>today there is a 2nd tab for items that does not change from the appearance tab....
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First of all, TF3D/TouchFlo3d, Manila, or Sense are essentially the same thing. It's a skin designed by HTC to cover up WinMo. You may say it's actualy just a very elaborate Today screen plugin. Since it takes up the whole screen, you would not be able to add other items.
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... I'm also looking for a good free IM client....
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No comment. I use MSN Messenger. See if other can help you out here.
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... A, Manila for Dummies, if you will....
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See above for a crude definition. There are many versions, so that's why there's so much discussion in these forums about them. People are trying to use versions that didn't come stock with their devices.
TF2D or Manila 2D - for budget devices like the Touch Vivo, Touch Cruise, etc
TF3D v1 - originally came on the Touch Diamond and Touch Pro
TF3D v2- came with the Touch Diamond 2 and our Touch Pro2.
TF3D v2.1 - came with the release of the official WinMo 6.5 ROM for the Touch Diamond2 and our Touch Pro2. Identifiable with the weather under the clock in the Home tab.
TF3D v2.5 - came with the release of the Touch HD2. Has customizable shortcuts on the Home tab, revamped People tab, coverflow-like Pictures tab and Music tab when in landscape, and other goodies.
Btw, going forward, you may want to list out what you're asking in bullet point form. Most people are put off by long essay-like posts. You'll get more responses if your post is clear and short.
ohyeahar said:
There's an option to disable "Auto Deploy SIP" in Advanced Configuration Tool.
Go to "Settings" tab, tap "Sound", turn off "Single Volume Control".
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Can't believe I missed that one, thanks.
First of all, TF3D/TouchFlo3d, Manila, or Sense are essentially the same thing. It's a skin designed by HTC to cover up WinMo. You may say it's actualy just a very elaborate Today screen plugin. Since it takes up the whole screen, you would not be able to add other items.
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I was just using that particular option as an example of a menu that is present but cannot be accessed.
See above for a crude definition. There are many versions, so that's why there's so much discussion in these forums about them. People are trying to use versions that didn't come stock with their devices.
TF2D or Manila 2D - for budget devices like the Touch Vivo, Touch Cruise, etc
TF3D v1 - originally came on the Touch Diamond and Touch Pro
TF3D v2- came with the Touch Diamond 2 and our Touch Pro2.
TF3D v2.1 - came with the release of the official WinMo 6.5 ROM for the Touch Diamond2 and our Touch Pro2. Identifiable with the weather under the clock in the Home tab.
TF3D v2.5 - came with the release of the Touch HD2. Has customizable shortcuts on the Home tab, revamped People tab, coverflow-like Pictures tab and Music tab when in landscape, and other goodies.
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That actually clears it up quite a bit. So it appears that my CDMA TP2 with USCC is actually 2.1 or 2.5? I see you stated our TP2 is is 2.1 but your description of 2.5 seems to fit my phone. Either way, it looks like I can just addon on any Manila Cabs that customize the home screen more as Manila is already installed?
Btw, going forward, you may want to list out what you're asking in bullet point form. Most people are put off by long essay-like posts. You'll get more responses if your post is clear and short.
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Sorry about that, I was reading though forums for about 2 hours after the bar last night when I typed all of that. I tend to get a bit winded when I'm intoxicated.
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I was just using that particular option as an example of a menu that is present but cannot be accessed.
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Where else are there menu options that doesn't look like they belong? Anyway, if there are, then it's because of Microsoft and not HTC. We're on WinMo is on version 6.5 now, but it really hasn't changed much since I first used a pocket PC back in 2000.
CeLlgUy said:
Either way, it looks like I can just addon on any Manila Cabs that customize the home screen more as Manila is already installed?
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Certainly, there are components that are possible to install via cabs. But often, you'll need to flash a ROM with the particular build of Manila that you want to get those features.
So just to clear this up, if something is made for TF3D v2, it should (or might) work with our CDMA TP2 running the stock @M6.5 rom?
Also, anyone have a fix for the keyboard thing? I remembered the name of the cab i used to use, null keyboard but can't find anything that works with this rom. I've tried a few reg edits that have not worked.
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So just to clear this up, if something is made for TF3D v2, it should (or might) work with our CDMA TP2 running the stock @M6.5 rom?
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It should, yes. However, if you have a TP2 with WM 6.5 you most likely have Manila 2.1 (in my case 2.1.191937). If you go to the Settings tab and scroll down, you should be able to see which version you have. That being said, many cabs work on all versions, a good few has to have a more specific version (like 2.0, 2.1 or 2.5) and a mere handful needs to be spot on (e.g. 2.1.1717).
After installing such a CAB you often need to restart your TF3D/Manila/Sense, and to do so you go to Start > Settings > Today and tick off HTC Sense. Tap OK and go back in to tick the HTC Sense box again. That restarts your TF3D.
Hope that made sense.
Thx for the clarification, I think I'm ready to start customizing this thing! I'm a bit hesitant as I really like alot of the features that come with the stock home screen. My last windows device was the 8125 and I modded the **** out of that home screen but this one I simply want to add a few highlights without loosing the over all look.
One thing I have been curious about is if there is a way to put a google search bar under the calendar. I know Google apps will put one up but then I have to go to my programs tab and open google apps so I might as well just eliminate a step and open opera.
I haven't checked to be honest with you, but I am satisfied with moving the internet tab a few notches closer to the home screen tab. I find that to be quick and easy enough! One tab on the tab and the google search is at the top of the screen.
Thanks for all the help! You gave me the tools I needed to dive back in. I understand the differences in Manila's now as I've flashed about 5 or 6 different roms. 2.5 is slick in theory, especially when Dusk Evolution v2.0 is theme is added but I had to return to 2.1. Thanks again for the help to get me started.
Im client look at PalRingo.. it's pretty awesome and covers most major networks (yahoo, MSN, gmail, facebook chat, icq others.
Yes, that's what I currently use. Kind of an old thread now too. I've come a long way since I started this thread.
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I'm trying to figure out how to disable the crappy wm6.5 start menu in favor of the HTC start menu. Everything i've tried has failed. Does anyone have any ideas?
I can't be the only one trying to get this info....
Bxsteez said:
I'm trying to figure out how to disable the crappy wm6.5 start menu in favor of the HTC start menu. Everything i've tried has failed. Does anyone have any ideas?
I can't be the only one trying to get this info....
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I cant believe you prefer the useless HTC start menu... which is just the Programs tab in Manila over the much nicer 6.5 start menu. LOL
NRGZ28 said:
I cant believe you prefer the useless HTC start menu... which is just the Programs tab in Manila over the much nicer 6.5 start menu. LOL
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each to our own i guess..i guess people like it because it links with the manila interface although honeycomb start menu is more customizable and gives you more indepth look into programs and folders which the htc one doesnt
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I cant believe you prefer the useless HTC start menu... which is just the Programs tab in Manila over the much nicer 6.5 start menu. LOL
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For me its ease of us. I can customize my commonly used apps but now that i think about it I hated the tf3d interface when it first came out lol. Now its i'm hooked. I think they honeycomb is flat out disgusting. I would rather uses the original enlarged start menu. Having the program tab to me has always been useless. I never go to the programs to open a program.
Bxsteez said:
For me its ease of us. I can customize my commonly used apps but now that i think about it I hated the tf3d interface when it first came out lol. Now its i'm hooked. I think they honeycomb is flat out disgusting. I would rather uses the original enlarged start menu. Having the program tab to me has always been useless. I never go to the programs to open a program.
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AGREED Bxsteez, although i'm using a 6.5 ROM at the moment, i can't help but going back to my good ol' touch flo 3D interface, everything is like more simple i mean you have your stuff where you want them !
Research for me has turned up somewhat conflicting results, so I ask if the community can shed some light, and in turn enlighten some of us who are in the dark.
Please correct me as I am sure there are some flaws in my knowledge here.
1. Manila / Sense 2.5 has been released officially, but only for the HD2 / Leo? And as such will only be released for this device.
leading to 2. therefore, the TP2 will never have *official* support for Manila 2.5 and it's lovely widget home / full-screen weather home screens
leading to 3. The Leo has no need for landscape support for all it's stuff because it doesn't have a keyboard?
leading to 4. I can discern that Manila 2.5 has added features such as Tiwtter integration and what has really piqued my interest, this "footprint" lark.
leading to 5. I am confused about Manila. It's obviously the program the runs the fancy TF3D interface jibbery-joo, but in some places I get the impression that it's heavily integrated into the windows ROM and so must come already baked in, and in other places It seems like it could almost be a cab file, ready for install?
leading to 6. does anyone know if HTC plans to give us poor TP2 users a widgetized home screen?
leading to 7. In some screen shots I have seen both the widgetised home screen, weather animations and footprint screen in use on what otherwise appears as Manila 2.1, especially the footprints things. Is this a seperate, installable module?
If it is possible to install the components (like footprints) or Manila 2.5 seperately, is there anyone offering them up, can't find them myself?
Many thanks for listening, it's all getting rather confusing.
Landscape support
Go to the aplications side of the thread. Theres apost called "Project Pulse"
Its a mod of 2.5 that supports landscape in all tabs but is still in early form with a few bugs. The developer is working on the bugs and will continue to update it. Its deffinatly worth looking at if you want to see landscape support for 2.5
geejayoh said:
Research for me has turned up somewhat conflicting results, so I ask if the community can shed some light, and in turn enlighten some of us who are in the dark.
Please correct me as I am sure there are some flaws in my knowledge here.
1. Manila / Sense 2.5 has been released officially, but only for the HD2 / Leo? And as such will only be released for this device.
leading to 2. therefore, the TP2 will never have *official* support for Manila 2.5 and it's lovely widget home / full-screen weather home screens
leading to 3. The Leo has no need for landscape support for all it's stuff because it doesn't have a keyboard?
leading to 4. I can discern that Manila 2.5 has added features such as Tiwtter integration and what has really piqued my interest, this "footprint" lark.
leading to 5. I am confused about Manila. It's obviously the program the runs the fancy TF3D interface jibbery-joo, but in some places I get the impression that it's heavily integrated into the windows ROM and so must come already baked in, and in other places It seems like it could almost be a cab file, ready for install?
leading to 6. does anyone know if HTC plans to give us poor TP2 users a widgetized home screen?
leading to 7. In some screen shots I have seen both the widgetised home screen, weather animations and footprint screen in use on what otherwise appears as Manila 2.1, especially the footprints things. Is this a seperate, installable module?
If it is possible to install the components (like footprints) or Manila 2.5 seperately, is there anyone offering them up, can't find them myself?
Many thanks for listening, it's all getting rather confusing.
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well friend this doesn't need to be in the rom section but ill see what i can do with your questions.
1. yep it has been made for the htc touch hd 2 but i am guessing it will be made for future devices and touchflo 3d will be gone for good kinda of like what happend between touch flo 2d when 3d came out.
2. it is very doubtful that the touch pro 2 will get an upgrade like 90% chance of no.
3. Yea pretty much why they didn't just make a landscape now is beyond me i know they will eventually maybe if that rumor about the touch hd pro comes out or something.
4 Yea 2.5 has twitter app which really is just alright i would rather use twikini. And footprints has been out for awhile on touch flo 2d.
5.Its kinda of both in a sense there are plenty of cabs for touch flo 3d but it is built in by htc as a more or less skin such as spb mobile shell.
6. Very doubtful htc loves moving forward with things.
7.If you could show us a pic i might be able to answer that but someone would have to port footprints to 2.1 and i really doubt thats gonna happend any time soon.
k2thejx5 said:
well friend this doesn't need to be in the rom section but ill see what i can do with your questions.
1. yep it has been made for the htc touch hd 2 but i am guessing it will be made for future devices and touchflo 3d will be gone for good kinda of like what happend between touch flo 2d when 3d came out.
2. it is very doubtful that the touch pro 2 will get an upgrade like 90% chance of no.
3. Yea pretty much why they didn't just make a landscape now is beyond me i know they will eventually maybe if that rumor about the touch hd pro comes out or something.
4 Yea 2.5 has twitter app which really is just alright i would rather use twikini. And footprints has been out for awhile on touch flo 2d.
5.Its kinda of both in a sense there are plenty of cabs for touch flo 3d but it is built in by htc as a more or less skin such as spb mobile shell.
6. Very doubtful htc loves moving forward with things.
7.If you could show us a pic i might be able to answer that but someone would have to port footprints to 2.1 and i really doubt thats gonna happend any time soon.
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Thanks for your answers man.
You're right it shouldn't be in the ROM section. But I kind of ummed and aarrred about it, and as you said yourself, it's a mixed bag whether manila is cooked in or not. Haha.
But very informative and I appreciate the time your took to reply. Kind of gives a good indication.
I was trying to install sense 2.5 in my TP2 until now ! thanks for posting this
geejayoh said:
Research for me has turned up somewhat conflicting results, so I ask if the community can shed some light, and in turn enlighten some of us who are in the dark.
Please correct me as I am sure there are some flaws in my knowledge here.
1. Manila / Sense 2.5 has been released officially, but only for the HD2 / Leo? And as such will only be released for this device.
leading to 2. therefore, the TP2 will never have *official* support for Manila 2.5 and it's lovely widget home / full-screen weather home screens
leading to 3. The Leo has no need for landscape support for all it's stuff because it doesn't have a keyboard?
leading to 4. I can discern that Manila 2.5 has added features such as Tiwtter integration and what has really piqued my interest, this "footprint" lark.
leading to 5. I am confused about Manila. It's obviously the program the runs the fancy TF3D interface jibbery-joo, but in some places I get the impression that it's heavily integrated into the windows ROM and so must come already baked in, and in other places It seems like it could almost be a cab file, ready for install?
leading to 6. does anyone know if HTC plans to give us poor TP2 users a widgetized home screen?
leading to 7. In some screen shots I have seen both the widgetised home screen, weather animations and footprint screen in use on what otherwise appears as Manila 2.1, especially the footprints things. Is this a seperate, installable module?
If it is possible to install the components (like footprints) or Manila 2.5 seperately, is there anyone offering them up, can't find them myself?
Many thanks for listening, it's all getting rather confusing.
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I was trying to install sense 2.5 in my TP2 until now ! thanks for posting this
i wanted so much a good rom with 2.5 for my tp2.. what i wanted was a french version of the fusion rom, but as we know, attomang seems to have vanished because of some scamming business he tried...
however here's what i think about the OFFICIAL future of sense 2.5 in landscape : pocket now showed us some leaked pictures of upcoming htc models coming in 2010 (based on some xda informations), and it comes out that there's a tp2-like device coming out.. so if it isn't an android based device, i think we can hope that it will come with 2.5 (and that we can base our future roms on the one that will be provided with it)
---> look at thje third one called "TERA"
http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/hot-three-new-htc-windows-mobile-phones-for-2010
(sorry if me english bad.. me native language french xD)
EDIT / for /7/ "home creen animated...".. it is present in the official 6.5 upgrade (so it's a winmo6.5 with sense 2.1) -- animated weather is on with the default wallpaper (or you can say when no wallpaper is chosen, or set for the homecreen)
Apologies if I am asking a very silly question but I have noticed that one of the main difference between the TD2 & HD2 Home screen seems to be that on the latter you can place shortcuts to frequently used apps whilst on the former you do not appear to be able to do so.
Is this because I am missing something being a newbie, and if so could some one point me in the right direct OR is this in fact the case but there is a tweak somewhere out there athat allows one to do this on a TD2?
I very much like the TF3D interface apart from the apparent lack of being above to place shortcuts to favorite apps on that Home screen.
Again apologies if this is a silly question...but am just starting out in the world of TF3D.
Cheers
Balders
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Apologies if I am asking a very silly question but I have noticed that one of the main difference between the TD2 & HD2 Home screen seems to be that on the latter you can place shortcuts to frequently used apps whilst on the former you do not appear to be able to do so.
Is this because I am missing something being a newbie, and if so could some one point me in the right direct OR is this in fact the case but there is a tweak somewhere out there athat allows one to do this on a TD2?
I very much like the TF3D interface apart from the apparent lack of being above to place shortcuts to favorite apps on that Home screen.
Again apologies if this is a silly question...but am just starting out in the world of TF3D.
Cheers
Balders
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WM6.5 for TD2 has 9 shortcuts on home screen.
To increase to 16 or 20 shortcuts there is Max manila themes.
Hi Bruce
Thanks for the prompt reply but some further questions if I may?
"WM6.5 for TD2 has 9 shortcuts on home screen." Is this in addition to the tab 'strip' that one can scroll through and then select a specific tab to display? If so then how do I nominate/get a user defined app to display on the Home screen?
"To increase to 16 or 20 shortcuts there is Max manila themes." What is max manila Themes and how do I get hold of it/install it (if that is what one needs to do)?
Many th anks in anticpation of your patience & time in helping a TF3d newbie.
Cheers
Balders
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Hi Bruce
Thanks for the prompt reply but some further questions if I may?
"WM6.5 for TD2 has 9 shortcuts on home screen." Is this in addition to the tab 'strip' that one can scroll through and then select a specific tab to display? If so then how do I nominate/get a user defined app to display on the Home screen?
"To increase to 16 or 20 shortcuts there is Max manila themes." What is max manila Themes and how do I get hold of it/install it (if that is what one needs to do)?
Many th anks in anticpation of your patience & time in helping a TF3d newbie.
Cheers
Balders
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The shortcuts eliminated the Program tab. This is not available in 6.5 to my knowledge.
Find a WM6.5 Rom and you will be able to select your shortcuts the same way as you used to do in the programs tab. Just click on blank box and it pulls up a list.
For Max Manila theme, start here.
Hi Bruce
Thanks for your further response...and apologies for mine in responding to it but I am in the run up to Xmas and reaping the 'benefits' of being in a service industry.
Have read the link on Max manila but do not quite understand what the app is and how it is installed. Is it just a tweaker applciation or does it make fundemental changes to the stock installation from HTC that comes with the phone? Is uninstallation just that, ie, like any other application, and the device reverts to the stockset up before Max Manila was installed?
Apologies for the further questions. IF you do not have the time to respond in detail perhaps you could point me to a summary of Max manial, who it works, is installed, etc., if you know of such a resource.
Many thanks in advance for any further assistance that you are able to provide.
Regards
Balders
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Hi Bruce
Thanks for your further response...and apologies for mine in responding to it but I am in the run up to Xmas and reaping the 'benefits' of being in a service industry.
Have read the link on Max manila but do not quite understand what the app is and how it is installed. Is it just a tweaker applciation or does it make fundemental changes to the stock installation from HTC that comes with the phone? Is uninstallation just that, ie, like any other application, and the device reverts to the stockset up before Max Manila was installed?
Apologies for the further questions. IF you do not have the time to respond in detail perhaps you could point me to a summary of Max manial, who it works, is installed, etc., if you know of such a resource.
Many thanks in advance for any further assistance that you are able to provide.
Regards
Balders
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Basically Max Manila is a theme that installs over your manila and is completely uninstallable. What it does is gives you options for changing your clocks, addding more shortcuts, background for all tabs, etc.
Installing and uninstalling does not wipe any data, it is only for appearances and functionality.
You just find the cab that matches your manila build, but mostly it will be either the max 2.5 or 2.6 that work on your device. If it hoses up your phone and doesn't work, you just uninstall and try another version.
Sorry I can't be more complete but I too am suffering from year end woes as I am in Finance.
Bruce Inman said:
Basically Max Manila is a theme that installs over your manila and is completely uninstallable. What it does is gives you options for changing your clocks, addding more shortcuts, background for all tabs, etc.
Installing and uninstalling does not wipe any data, it is only for appearances and functionality.
You just find the cab that matches your manila build, but mostly it will be either the max 2.5 or 2.6 that work on your device. If it hoses up your phone and doesn't work, you just uninstall and try another version.
Sorry I can't be more complete but I too am suffering from year end woes as I am in Finance.
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Hi Bruce
Thanks for the reply in spite of being set too with Year End.
I think that I have got the basics and as it is completely uninstallable I will be brave and give it a try. Interestingly enough if I am correct my TD2 uses Manila 2.1919xxx rather than 2.5xxxxxxx and so it look slike I am stuck with the first of the CABs given in one of the post in the thread that you have provided. If there are owners with Manila 2.5xxxxxxx loaded as standar on their TD2 then it looks like I have been unlucky...but there you go.
Have a great Festive break...and thanks again for your help.
Cheers
Balders
Glad I could help.
Have a great holiday too.
Manila Version
Hi
This is exactly what I have been looking for. However I dont know what my manila version is.
My ROM is the standard Uk T-Mobile 6.5 ROM.
I tried looking in the ABOUT settings, but that just has version numbers for os
it says CE OS 5.2.21854 (Build 21854.5.0.80)
I maybe being a bit of a doughnut here, but looking at the above.... is 2.21854 the Manila version?
mpathan said:
Hi
This is exactly what I have been looking for. However I dont know what my manila version is.
My ROM is the standard Uk T-Mobile 6.5 ROM.
I tried looking in the ABOUT settings, but that just has version numbers for os
it says CE OS 5.2.21854 (Build 21854.5.0.80)
I maybe being a bit of a doughnut here, but looking at the above.... is 2.21854 the Manila version?
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Hi there
I have had trouble finding out the Manila version on my TD2 but believe that manila 2.5 is only officially, ie, by HTC ROM, for the Leo or HD2. Therefore it suggests that your official stock ROM is at Manila 2.1...like mine.
Will post back if I can find a way of finding the actual Manila version displayed.
Cheers
Balders
Hi Bruce
Max Manila Theme for 2.1 successfully installed but I have a couple of small questions...if you would be kin enough to spare me the time:
1. Can this be installed on the SD card or must it be/is it better to install to the Device?
2. Is there any way of customising the settings that are shipped with MMT for 2.1? In the thread I have seen options but I am wondering of this is for the 2.5 version rather than the one that I am limited to given my Manila version.
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Balders
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Baldrick1 said:
Hi Bruce
Max Manila Theme for 2.1 successfully installed but I have a couple of small questions...if you would be kin enough to spare me the time:
1. Can this be installed on the SD card or must it be/is it better to install to the Device?
2. Is there any way of customising the settings that are shipped with MMT for 2.1? In the thread I have seen options but I am wondering of this is for the 2.5 version rather than the one that I am limited to given my Manila version.
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Balders
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Hey Baldrick,
1. Install to device, it will not run from storage card.
2. Most development is continuing on the 2.5 and beyond. Some of the list of files are for 2.1, they should be identified as such but I don't recall.
Try a few clocks, backgrounds etc. if they don't work, you can always uninstall.
**Important**- ANYTHING that interfaces with your Home screen, contact programs, themes, clocks, any customizations must be installed on the device.
Happy Holidays.
Bruce Inman said:
Hey Baldrick,
1. Install to device, it will not run from storage card.
2. Most development is continuing on the 2.5 and beyond. Some of the list of files are for 2.1, they should be identified as such but I don't recall.
Try a few clocks, backgrounds etc. if they don't work, you can always uninstall.
**Important**- ANYTHING that interfaces with your Home screen, contact programs, themes, clocks, any customizations must be installed on the device.
Happy Holidays.
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Hi Bruce
Thanks for that. Have installed on the device...was just a thought.
Having trouble identifying add ons for 2.1 as most seem to be for 2.5, obviously...and I have not plan to install a 2.5 ROM.
Obviously the Settings options are new for 2.5 rather than 2.1...which is a shame but there you go. Can't even find the MMT folder under which you are supposed to install further customisations but I dare say I will take some time over the break to check my phone more carefully.
Thanks for your help.
Happy Holidays to you to!!!!
I am REALLY confused as to how to get and install themes on my new phone. Some problems i have come across so far, with any instructions i have found, are:
Diamond TF3D Config DOES NOT work on my phone
I CANNOT untick TouchFlo3D as it DOES NOT appear in the items list of the today settings.
Can anyone shed some light on how you theme the phone. What can i be doing wrong?
billybag said:
I am REALLY confused as to how to get and install themes on my new phone. Some problems i have come across so far, with any instructions i have found, are:
Diamond TF3D Config DOES NOT work on my phone
I CANNOT untick TouchFlo3D as it DOES NOT appear in the items list of the today settings.
Can anyone shed some light on how you theme the phone. What can i be doing wrong?
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First you have to know what version of manila you're using. Are you using stock rom?
sounds like he doesnt have touchflo at all....
update rom, maybe then try...
It goes by different names... see if you have something called HTC Sense in your home items. Or Manilla
How are you trying to install the theme's? Are you talking about a theme for the menu bars (top and bottom) or are you talking about a theme for HTC Sense (Aka Touch flo 3d)
Each should basically install via a cab which is an install program. If its a standard windows mobile theme which will just change the background the bars then you just have to move the theme file which you can move over to a folder onto your phone (not SD card) and you should see it in your themes section in home settings.
If you want to switch appearance of HTC Sense/TouchFlo3d/Manilla... whatever you want to call it You can try this too... Theme Switcher] it looks interesting although Ive never tried it
Hope this helps
go to settings>all settigns>home or today>items
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go to settings>all settigns>home or today>items
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it is used to modify windows desktop theme, not manila theme
manila only supports change wallpaper,
if you want modify manila's theme, you need to modify theme code of manila
Sorry for the lag.
Apparently i do not have TouchFlow3d
I have Sense. Not sure why their is one or the other.... I was never asked which i wanted when buying the phone. Even the CUSTOMIZING HOME SCREEN tutorial on tmobile's site assumes you have TF3D.
The whole thing is just confusing.
And the reason i inquire is because i really hate the stock layout/display/theme of my phone but every single editor/mod/customizer i find is for the touchflo3d!!!!!! ESPECIALLY co0kies home screen editor. I really would have liked that. Why do sense users get the shaft?
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And the reason i inquire is because i really hate the stock layout/display/theme of my phone but every single editor/mod/customizer i find is for the touchflo3d!!!!!! ESPECIALLY co0kies home screen editor. I really would have liked that. Why do sense users get the shaft?
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ummm... you might wanna look into that alittle bit more. cookies home screen works with sense also, 2.1 or 2.5.
TF3D= pretty much the just wm6.1 and what i call a "test" for sense
2.1= pretty much wm6.5 and like TF3d but with graphic improvements and stuff.
2.5= ment for the HD2 but since were cool we ripped it, but pretty much same as 2.1 but just an updated version pretty much
if i may suggest a ROM for you it would be this... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569507
just scroll down to the 2nd post and look for "- valkyrie.ftp v6.7.21904-TR2.5 28th MAY wm6.5 without extra tabbs" it has cookie cooked it it
that would more than likely fit you since its a basic version and has good things preloaded with it. but if you want more than just that then go for this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773
just look for the download button with sense 2.5 and that has the cookie mod already cooked in it as well
just make sure to hardSPL your rhodium before you do any of this. for any more info just look in the ROM development thread and look for things in there.
with that said im done for today and im going to sleep
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Sorry for the lag.
Apparently i do not have TouchFlow3d
I have Sense. Not sure why their is one or the other.... I was never asked which i wanted when buying the phone. Even the CUSTOMIZING HOME SCREEN tutorial on tmobile's site assumes you have TF3D.
The whole thing is just confusing.
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Like I said.. Sense is touchflo3D for all intensive purposes... most of the editors you see WILL work with sense. Sense is the newer name for Touchflo3d.
Sense comes in different varients... 2.1 and 2.5... you likely have one of those. I can't say for sure but I thought that cookies home tab only worked with 2.5 which is a significant upgrade. If it does work with Sense 2.1 then odds are you are good either way.
Do some more reading and you'll find out everything you need.
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Like I said.. Sense is touchflo3D for all intensive purposes... most of the editors you see WILL work with sense. Sense is the newer name for Touchflo3d.
Sense comes in different varients... 2.1 and 2.5... you likely have one of those. I can't say for sure but I thought that cookies home tab only worked with 2.5 which is a significant upgrade. If it does work with Sense 2.1 then odds are you are good either way.
Do some more reading and you'll find out everything you need.
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It doesn't work with 2.1 I already tried a while ago and ended up having to hard reset my phone, losing everything, because it screwed it up.
Good morning all,
I did a search on "widgets" and could not come up with what I was looking for so...
I was reading (and watching video) on "pocketnow.com." They showed that you could "long tap" an empty spot on the home page which would allow you to peruse, choose from, and download new icons/widgets for your HD2. They had some spiffy ones on there for mail and other.
Tried it and it did not work. Read into the comments section and they note that it is an andriod phone and may not work on a Tmo-WM-HD2.
Is there a way to get some nice new widgets for preinstalled programs (or other) without flashing the ROM or installing a new CAB?
I assumed there might be just like I can choose an icon on my Windows desktop.
Thanks in advance.
you could just install android or mobile shells.
yeah, like ddgarcia is saying, WM doesn't really have widgets, unless you use CHT/CHTE (which only has a very few available). Based on what you said, I would imagine that the video you were looking at was an android build with sense on it (so it looks rather similar to a WM build with sense).
Android and SPB Mobile Shell (a WM-based replacement for sense) are pretty much the only way to get widgets on to your home screen.
Mate, are you sure you were not looking at Co0kie's Home Tab 1.85?
I appreciate all the responses.
You are indeed correct, it was an android HD2.
I should have noted that.
I was hoping that perhaps so of the same functionality was possible with my TMO-HD2 (WM 6.5).
I have thought about installing Cookie's Tabs, but frankly I dig my stock HD2. I have been having some latency troubles lately, but I think there may be some "gun" in the system that my cleaner is not getting rid of (tmp files, etc.).
I need to clean her out and tune her up!
Thanks all.
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Mate, are you sure you were not looking at Co0kie's Home Tab 1.85?
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Pretty sure he wasn't. He was mistaken when he said the video was showing widgets for the HD2 though.
http://www.youtube.com/pocketnowvideo#p/u/9/3CUyaxW2QVU
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I appreciate all the responses.
You are indeed correct, it was an android HD2.
I should have noted that.
I was hoping that perhaps so of the same functionality was possible with my TMO-HD2 (WM 6.5).
I have thought about installing Cookie's Tabs, but frankly I dig my stock HD2. I have been having some latency troubles lately, but I think there may be some "gun" in the system that my cleaner is not getting rid of (tmp files, etc.).
I need to clean her out and tune her up!
Thanks all.
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CHT 1.8 is awesome dude. The quicklinks you get make your phone twice as cool. It's like having an Android WM hybrid. Obviously there are a lot more apps out there for Android but functionality wise CHT makes this phone better...
You do know that you can load Android on your phone with minimal effort, right?
Mate, here is a wicked Android build for you; everything is working fine. This provides a fantastic experience with a Stock HTC Desire Froyo build (HTC Sense etc...).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=736545
Read the thread, download the ROM, read the instructions (simple 1,2,3 steps) and enjoy.
Cheers
While I appreciate the kind and well-intended responses...
Me no want Android.
Me like Windows Mobile
Camusa said:
While I appreciate the kind and well-intended responses...
Me no want Android.
Me like Windows Mobile
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Have you thought of trying a maxsense rom? energy maxsense might be whatyou are looking for. There is widgets in maxsense. It is basically a complete rebuild of htc sense.