Research for me has turned up somewhat conflicting results, so I ask if the community can shed some light, and in turn enlighten some of us who are in the dark.
Please correct me as I am sure there are some flaws in my knowledge here.
1. Manila / Sense 2.5 has been released officially, but only for the HD2 / Leo? And as such will only be released for this device.
leading to 2. therefore, the TP2 will never have *official* support for Manila 2.5 and it's lovely widget home / full-screen weather home screens
leading to 3. The Leo has no need for landscape support for all it's stuff because it doesn't have a keyboard?
leading to 4. I can discern that Manila 2.5 has added features such as Tiwtter integration and what has really piqued my interest, this "footprint" lark.
leading to 5. I am confused about Manila. It's obviously the program the runs the fancy TF3D interface jibbery-joo, but in some places I get the impression that it's heavily integrated into the windows ROM and so must come already baked in, and in other places It seems like it could almost be a cab file, ready for install?
leading to 6. does anyone know if HTC plans to give us poor TP2 users a widgetized home screen?
leading to 7. In some screen shots I have seen both the widgetised home screen, weather animations and footprint screen in use on what otherwise appears as Manila 2.1, especially the footprints things. Is this a seperate, installable module?
If it is possible to install the components (like footprints) or Manila 2.5 seperately, is there anyone offering them up, can't find them myself?
Many thanks for listening, it's all getting rather confusing.
Landscape support
Go to the aplications side of the thread. Theres apost called "Project Pulse"
Its a mod of 2.5 that supports landscape in all tabs but is still in early form with a few bugs. The developer is working on the bugs and will continue to update it. Its deffinatly worth looking at if you want to see landscape support for 2.5
geejayoh said:
Research for me has turned up somewhat conflicting results, so I ask if the community can shed some light, and in turn enlighten some of us who are in the dark.
Please correct me as I am sure there are some flaws in my knowledge here.
1. Manila / Sense 2.5 has been released officially, but only for the HD2 / Leo? And as such will only be released for this device.
leading to 2. therefore, the TP2 will never have *official* support for Manila 2.5 and it's lovely widget home / full-screen weather home screens
leading to 3. The Leo has no need for landscape support for all it's stuff because it doesn't have a keyboard?
leading to 4. I can discern that Manila 2.5 has added features such as Tiwtter integration and what has really piqued my interest, this "footprint" lark.
leading to 5. I am confused about Manila. It's obviously the program the runs the fancy TF3D interface jibbery-joo, but in some places I get the impression that it's heavily integrated into the windows ROM and so must come already baked in, and in other places It seems like it could almost be a cab file, ready for install?
leading to 6. does anyone know if HTC plans to give us poor TP2 users a widgetized home screen?
leading to 7. In some screen shots I have seen both the widgetised home screen, weather animations and footprint screen in use on what otherwise appears as Manila 2.1, especially the footprints things. Is this a seperate, installable module?
If it is possible to install the components (like footprints) or Manila 2.5 seperately, is there anyone offering them up, can't find them myself?
Many thanks for listening, it's all getting rather confusing.
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well friend this doesn't need to be in the rom section but ill see what i can do with your questions.
1. yep it has been made for the htc touch hd 2 but i am guessing it will be made for future devices and touchflo 3d will be gone for good kinda of like what happend between touch flo 2d when 3d came out.
2. it is very doubtful that the touch pro 2 will get an upgrade like 90% chance of no.
3. Yea pretty much why they didn't just make a landscape now is beyond me i know they will eventually maybe if that rumor about the touch hd pro comes out or something.
4 Yea 2.5 has twitter app which really is just alright i would rather use twikini. And footprints has been out for awhile on touch flo 2d.
5.Its kinda of both in a sense there are plenty of cabs for touch flo 3d but it is built in by htc as a more or less skin such as spb mobile shell.
6. Very doubtful htc loves moving forward with things.
7.If you could show us a pic i might be able to answer that but someone would have to port footprints to 2.1 and i really doubt thats gonna happend any time soon.
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well friend this doesn't need to be in the rom section but ill see what i can do with your questions.
1. yep it has been made for the htc touch hd 2 but i am guessing it will be made for future devices and touchflo 3d will be gone for good kinda of like what happend between touch flo 2d when 3d came out.
2. it is very doubtful that the touch pro 2 will get an upgrade like 90% chance of no.
3. Yea pretty much why they didn't just make a landscape now is beyond me i know they will eventually maybe if that rumor about the touch hd pro comes out or something.
4 Yea 2.5 has twitter app which really is just alright i would rather use twikini. And footprints has been out for awhile on touch flo 2d.
5.Its kinda of both in a sense there are plenty of cabs for touch flo 3d but it is built in by htc as a more or less skin such as spb mobile shell.
6. Very doubtful htc loves moving forward with things.
7.If you could show us a pic i might be able to answer that but someone would have to port footprints to 2.1 and i really doubt thats gonna happend any time soon.
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Thanks for your answers man.
You're right it shouldn't be in the ROM section. But I kind of ummed and aarrred about it, and as you said yourself, it's a mixed bag whether manila is cooked in or not. Haha.
But very informative and I appreciate the time your took to reply. Kind of gives a good indication.
I was trying to install sense 2.5 in my TP2 until now ! thanks for posting this
geejayoh said:
Research for me has turned up somewhat conflicting results, so I ask if the community can shed some light, and in turn enlighten some of us who are in the dark.
Please correct me as I am sure there are some flaws in my knowledge here.
1. Manila / Sense 2.5 has been released officially, but only for the HD2 / Leo? And as such will only be released for this device.
leading to 2. therefore, the TP2 will never have *official* support for Manila 2.5 and it's lovely widget home / full-screen weather home screens
leading to 3. The Leo has no need for landscape support for all it's stuff because it doesn't have a keyboard?
leading to 4. I can discern that Manila 2.5 has added features such as Tiwtter integration and what has really piqued my interest, this "footprint" lark.
leading to 5. I am confused about Manila. It's obviously the program the runs the fancy TF3D interface jibbery-joo, but in some places I get the impression that it's heavily integrated into the windows ROM and so must come already baked in, and in other places It seems like it could almost be a cab file, ready for install?
leading to 6. does anyone know if HTC plans to give us poor TP2 users a widgetized home screen?
leading to 7. In some screen shots I have seen both the widgetised home screen, weather animations and footprint screen in use on what otherwise appears as Manila 2.1, especially the footprints things. Is this a seperate, installable module?
If it is possible to install the components (like footprints) or Manila 2.5 seperately, is there anyone offering them up, can't find them myself?
Many thanks for listening, it's all getting rather confusing.
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I was trying to install sense 2.5 in my TP2 until now ! thanks for posting this
i wanted so much a good rom with 2.5 for my tp2.. what i wanted was a french version of the fusion rom, but as we know, attomang seems to have vanished because of some scamming business he tried...
however here's what i think about the OFFICIAL future of sense 2.5 in landscape : pocket now showed us some leaked pictures of upcoming htc models coming in 2010 (based on some xda informations), and it comes out that there's a tp2-like device coming out.. so if it isn't an android based device, i think we can hope that it will come with 2.5 (and that we can base our future roms on the one that will be provided with it)
---> look at thje third one called "TERA"
http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/hot-three-new-htc-windows-mobile-phones-for-2010
(sorry if me english bad.. me native language french xD)
EDIT / for /7/ "home creen animated...".. it is present in the official 6.5 upgrade (so it's a winmo6.5 with sense 2.1) -- animated weather is on with the default wallpaper (or you can say when no wallpaper is chosen, or set for the homecreen)
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When the Diamond2 and Touch Pro2 get the Windows Mobile 6.5 upgrade later this summer, it looks like they are getting a new version of TouchFLO 3D (Manila v2.5) that stretches the interface a bit deeper and makes it more customizable than seen on the current iteration. If not on the Diamond2 and Touch Pro2, we'll likely see Manila v2.5 on the upcoming Firestone.
Energy Rom TEST version HD manila 2.5
this is a test rom FROM ENRG
. Here is the link . Test only if you want to try the new manilla otherwise the rom has lots of bugs and it not stable.
http://rapidshare.com/files/24820285...8_standard.rar
this is a test rom FROM ENRG
new manila Rules much better then rhodium version but with some bugs.....
Excelent
For the Home tab, HTC has put forth efforts to bring frequently used tasks to the surface; in this case, the user can place three shortcut buttons that presumably go to a program, contact, or system command. Also, the calendar is still on the Home tab, though we wonder if that section will auto-collapse or simply act as a link.
More screenshots plus a video after the jump!
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It seems that HTC Footprints, first launched on the 2009 version of the Touch Cruise, will make its way to all newer versions of TouchFLO 3D. Footprints lets you associate geographical coordinates with a photo.
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Settings are going to go much deeper. Currently in TouchFLO 3D, there are only a handful of system settings that are skinned by HTC. Now, it looks like most things, down to Program and Storage, Regional, and even Text Input setting are skinned.
new manila 2.5 from firestone Excelent
very fast and now 100% fingerfrindly
more options EXCELENT
The next build of Manilla, TouchFlo3D 2.5, has been leaked, and this video shows it running on a HTC Touch HD. It continuous the replacement of the normal Windows Mobile UI, and it seems all parts of calendar and settings are now subsumed in the software.
Also new is HTC Footprints as an integral part of TF3D.
this is true ???? can´t wait for new Rom with manila 2.5
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5321&cpage=1#comment-28932
many thanks
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I really can't wait for this. It really does look great!
I hope dutty gets his hands on it soon and can make a nice stable winmo 6.5 ROM with this Manilia, it would be amazing
Jake
agreed jake
not sure why when the dude in the video clicks on the System Info screen it didnt show anything though!
zoomee said:
agreed jake
not sure why when the dude in the video clicks on the System Info screen it didnt show anything though!
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excelent but with some bugs to solve ..... just waiting until new realease
nice...
where we can download this ?
I do not whant install new firmware but update to Manila v2.5
will be nice..
Well if he got it in his HD so could we.. Jeez, cant wait
tetrabit said:
nice...
where we can download this ?
I do not whant install new firmware but update to Manila v2.5
will be nice..
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Test versions are out. I think that we'll see it within a week.
Probably won't be that stable for a bit though.
You will need to flash or imageUpdate your phone.
I don't think that is a HD I think that is the Firestone that is shown in that video is it not?
looks like an HD... i tried it today on my HD and it looks good, but it's slow and buggy in spots. i removed it because i need a stable device during the week!
Totally agree with cortez.i, tried manila 2.5 yesterday and at present it is to unstable & buggy with a number of things not working properly.
Once these have been ironed out though..........
new manila
hi
i use new manila in the "Energy Rom" it's nice and very userfriendly however there are a lot of bugs as the sms (doesn't work), the weather and the clock (you can't add new city) and something else.. for the speed i used "drive pack beta 2" and it goes quickly as the old manila.
i hope someone fix bug as soon as possible.. it looks great!!
dhborr said:
hi
i use new manila in the "Energy Rom" it's nice and very userfriendly however there are a lot of bugs as the sms (doesn't work), the weather and the clock (you can't add new city) and something else.. for the speed i used "drive pack beta 2" and it goes quickly as the old manila.
i hope someone fix bug as soon as possible.. it looks great!!
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NEW manila 2.5 PLEASE ...... even with bugs we want to see and test NEW MANILA
or manila better a manila 2.5 CAB file PLEASE ....
please make a Rom with New Manila 2.5
new manila is excelent more feactures ....
many thanks
masrterk said:
NEW manila 2.5 PLEASE ...... even with bugs we want to see and test NEW MANILA
or manila better a manila 2.5 CAB file PLEASE ....
please make a Rom with New Manila 2.5
new manila is excelent more feactures ....
many thanks
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this is a test rom FROM ENRG
. Here is the link . Test only if you want to try the new manilla otherwise the rom has lots of bugs and it not stable.
http://rapidshare.com/files/24820285...8_standard.rar
this is a test rom FROM ENRG
new manila Rules much better then rhodium version but with some bugs.....
Excelent
Tried the ROM with TF3D v2.5 today...
Great layout and adition of a few new things but as everyone else has already stated it's very VERY buggy! Shame...
Can't wait till it's out and stable, although I am more looking forward to the new Sence UI
Because I just can't bring myself to installing a new ROM (call me gutless) can we have a Manila 2.5 CAB file please...
Asp
Well tbh, I rather have one working then one bugging....
Aspi914 said:
Because I just can't bring myself to installing a new ROM (call me gutless) can we have a Manila 2.5 CAB file please...
Asp
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manila 2.5 cab file? we'd all like it to be that easy, lol. but...you can forget about that. it's a ROM flash only... (for now).
I'm looking at the registry values for the new Footprints function on my HD. Seems Manila 2.5 was written for a device with a 3M pixel cam, opposed to the HD's 5M. I've set the value for a 5M function, but that didn't fix anything. I've alos checked FootCam.exe with Dependancy Walker which tells me alot of files are still missing.
If i find the time, i'll post a list of missing files / dependancies.
NeoS2007 said:
I'm looking at the registry values for the new Footprints function on my HD. Seems Manila 2.5 was written for a device with a 3M pixel cam, opposed to the HD's 5M. I've set the value for a 5M function, but that didn't fix anything. I've alos checked FootCam.exe with Dependancy Walker which tells me alot of files are still missing.
If i find the time, i'll post a list of missing files / dependancies.
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One 0one fix the Sms bug ? and weather ....
new manila is realy great much better then rhodium version
can´t wait for a better and stable version it´s realy fast and a great improve
I see it and it looks like some sort of UI mod for Manila. anyone have ideas? is this HTC or 3rd party/dev add-on?
thanks!!!
sense = manila
and plz. search next time you are a member!
Sense - what the heck is it?
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To be honest, I'm not quite clear either, even after searching, and I've spent many, many hours in this forum. It would be nice to have a clear definition of Manila vs TF3D vs Sense, because all three seem to be used interchangeably in the forum.
I wait to be flamed, but isn't Sense just "tarted up" TouchFlo3D with a new snappier name that makes marketing easier? I imagine "Manila" was the original name (an acronym?) for HTC's (at the time) new interface to overlay the WM interface. So, Manila would mean both TF3D and Sense?
Pete_S said:
It would be nice to have a clear definition of Manila vs TF3D vs Sense, because all three seem to be used interchangeably in the forum.
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There is something to be said about having a general dictionary or list of product names on the forum. There are many names that I don't know and it can take ages to find what they are.
For starters I DID search - plz don't assume something
I do agree that a dictionary of terms would be great.
A breakdown of the convention
TouchFLO: The UI modification designed by HTC.
Manila: Version 2.0 / 2.1 of the TouchFLO UI
Sense: Version 2.5 of the TouchFLO UI
Think of it as codenames, very much like internal build names for the devices.
Touch Diamond 2 = Topaz, for instance, in the same way as TouchFLO 2.1 = Manila and TouchFLO 2.5 = Sense.
DeathJester said:
TouchFLO 2.1 = Manila and TouchFLO 2.5 = Sense.
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I have TouchFLO 3.0. What is the code name for that (and don't say 'nonsense'!)
Mike Austin said:
I have TouchFLO 3.0. What is the code name for that (and don't say 'nonsense'!)
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UAuuuu YOU have TouchFLO 3.0 or TouchFLO3D ? Or you are from the future and made some fun with us?
The last what I see here it's 2.6 I think...not sure...
You can share with us?
Mike Austin said:
I have TouchFLO 3.0. What is the code name for that (and don't say 'nonsense'!)
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would be so kind and post some screen-shots/photos?
br,
Chris
cyron_at said:
would be so kind and post some screen-shots/photos?
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I don't know how to do a screen dump, so I just took a photo:
It's something wrong build 1913.xxxx and the last it's 1920.xxxx and it's 2.5
pauln said:
It's something wrong build 1913.xxxx and the last it's 1920.xxxx and it's 2.5
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Oh dear! I would not want to upset anyone still busily upgrading to the latest start-of-the-art TouchFLO 2.n by having TouchFLO 3.n
This is the standard TouchFLO for T-Mobile written by HTC. Maybe they started new numbering for T-Mobile? Does the build number you quote relate to all TouchFLO versions or just the TouchFLO 2.n versions?
Manila 2.1 is now called HTC Sense in the new 6.5 upgrade ROMs.
Sense is (AFAIK) the "My Location" bit of Manila that allows you to display the weather for my location on the today screen, it's also the code name for the HTC Hero interface that first demostrated weather on the Today screen.
The first Manila 2.1 didn't have sense, but then it was added so it's manila 2.1+Sense, manila 2.5 has always had it.
Dave
Right, I hope everyone's clear on that now
So, extracting from the various posts:
1. TouchFLO was the first HTC interface add-on to WM.
2. Manila was the second HTC interface. It became known popularly as TouchFlo3D or TF3D for short.
3. Sense is an update for Manila which includes "location awareness". It has also replaced TF3D as the popular name for Manila since v2.5
So, Manila is still Manila, but it's known popularly as Sense now rather than TF3D?
PS:
The first Manila 2.1 didn't have sense
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Hee Hee, that's nonsense then ...
Sorry, Dave, feel free to ban me for life for that dreadful joke
Manila - Finger Friendly Graphic User Interface - this is platform
Touch Flo - The Interface Plug-in for visualization of Manila platform
Sense - the same as Touch Flo but new release
So this is good, in this single thread I am able to get a better understanding of each of the versions of UI.
there also OS versions and I assume that TF3D, Manila, and Sense are bound to min versions?
Microsoft has released the following over the last 18 months:
WM 6.1 - mostly found on non-touch devices but I understand has Touch support
WM 6.5 (Windows Phone branded lunch) - fully Touch aware albeit mostly still has the small buttons like "OK" or "X" or "CLOSE" these are not fingure friendly although the UI does fully support Touch devices.
WM 6.5.1 - NOT RELEASED. this is the name MS us using for an Interim release (between 6.5 and 7.0) this release will fix many bugs and update the UI to with the "Fat Finger" tabs instead of the little "were is my stylus!" buttons. there are a few ROMs out there that have these features and they dramatically improve the usability (IMHO). I am running build 32502.x1 (Shadowline - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=526618&highlight=23502) and also Optimal Champious (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=573896&highlight=23502). the first has Sense, the second does not (no Manila/Sense).
WM 7.0 - NOT RELEASED. According to my Microsoft contacts will be a complete consumer friendly UI. I suspect this is going to be positioned as the optimal iPhone competitor along with a slew of new devices. My thought is the LEO (albeit big) with WM 7.0 will rock. There is no date but I would bet this come out in late summer/fall of 2010. think about MS cycles for other consumer projects. you need to hit the holiday season or wait till next year.
IF you are still running the stock WM 6.5 that came with your ATT Pure, I recommened (but caution if you are not comfortable and know the risk of 'bricking' your phone is possible) that you check out the new builds. 23502.X or greater like OC, Shadowline builds have been running on my devices for almost a week and they are much improved over the stock.
I only wish there was an iphone like (for fat fingers) keyboard out there.
Just to add, there are lots of great keyboards out there and I have tried a couple of them. I am thinking the screen size on the Topaz is the reason why vs. the iphone.
I just got the TP2 for USCC last week. (WM6.5) I haven't used WM in about 2 years and am pretty dissapointed to find a lot of the same issues that were present then. I used to be a fairly competent WM user with above average knowledge in registry editing, ROM flashing, etc but most of what I used to use seems to have changed. So far I have found the fixes for the sms sent notification and the organization of the contact list by last name, first to first, last.
I've been all over these forums and cannot find a fix to disable the onscreen keyboard from auto-popping...ever. Also, in the sound settings menu, there is a slider to adjust ringer volume and another to adjust system volume yet these two don't work independently. I want system volume loud for hearing things like my IM app that runs in the background yet have the ringer volume lower as it's over bearing on full.
Something else I have noticed is that some settings menus appear to be there but not functioning. For instance, under settings>all settings>today there is a 2nd tab for items that does not change from the appearance tab. I've notice several menu's like this throughout the phone. It seems like there are things that other versions of WM may have had that this doesn't or simply that Microsoft/HTC got lazy in the initial release and either did not remove tabs that were not intended to be there or forgot to finish some that should. Just wondering if anyone has some insight into this.
I'm also looking for a good free IM client. I've seen many apps across these forums but with so many out there, it's hard to find the right one for me. I refuse to pay $45 for Agile messenger (although I've seen hacked versions but I would prefer not to deal with that). It's a decent app, not great but decent but $45 for a very simple app is outrageous. So, I found Slick ( http://slick.en.softonic.com/windowsmobile ) which is a free app and works great! The only feature it is missing that I liked about Agile is a notification (similar to the annoying sms message sent notification that I removed) while the app is in standby. Does anyone know of another free IM app that is simple and has that feature? I only use Google Talk and have noticed some apps specifically for that but there are so many to try, I'm hoping someone has a good recommendation to save me some time.
The last thing I'm curious about pertains to Manila. I see Manila all over these forums. I've done some reading on it and have a good understanding of what manila is. But, it's very confusing as some thread talk about reflashing ROMS for it and others talk about installing cabs over your current rom for it. Does anyone have a link to a good thread(s) that will explain things more clearly so I can make an educated decision on the best way to try this out? A, Manila for Dummies, if you will.
Thanks in advance for any help!
Edit: It looks like the "Manila" Touch Flo design is incorporated in WM 6.5 on my device already? Is this mainly the custom tabs located at the bottom of the today screen?
CeLlgUy said:
...to disable the onscreen keyboard from auto-popping...
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There's an option to disable "Auto Deploy SIP" in Advanced Configuration Tool.
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... Also, in the sound settings menu, there is a slider to adjust ringer volume and another to adjust system volume yet these two don't work independently....
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Go to "Settings" tab, tap "Sound", turn off "Single Volume Control".
CeLlgUy said:
... under settings>all settings>today there is a 2nd tab for items that does not change from the appearance tab....
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First of all, TF3D/TouchFlo3d, Manila, or Sense are essentially the same thing. It's a skin designed by HTC to cover up WinMo. You may say it's actualy just a very elaborate Today screen plugin. Since it takes up the whole screen, you would not be able to add other items.
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No comment. I use MSN Messenger. See if other can help you out here.
CeLlgUy said:
... A, Manila for Dummies, if you will....
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See above for a crude definition. There are many versions, so that's why there's so much discussion in these forums about them. People are trying to use versions that didn't come stock with their devices.
TF2D or Manila 2D - for budget devices like the Touch Vivo, Touch Cruise, etc
TF3D v1 - originally came on the Touch Diamond and Touch Pro
TF3D v2- came with the Touch Diamond 2 and our Touch Pro2.
TF3D v2.1 - came with the release of the official WinMo 6.5 ROM for the Touch Diamond2 and our Touch Pro2. Identifiable with the weather under the clock in the Home tab.
TF3D v2.5 - came with the release of the Touch HD2. Has customizable shortcuts on the Home tab, revamped People tab, coverflow-like Pictures tab and Music tab when in landscape, and other goodies.
Btw, going forward, you may want to list out what you're asking in bullet point form. Most people are put off by long essay-like posts. You'll get more responses if your post is clear and short.
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There's an option to disable "Auto Deploy SIP" in Advanced Configuration Tool.
Go to "Settings" tab, tap "Sound", turn off "Single Volume Control".
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Can't believe I missed that one, thanks.
First of all, TF3D/TouchFlo3d, Manila, or Sense are essentially the same thing. It's a skin designed by HTC to cover up WinMo. You may say it's actualy just a very elaborate Today screen plugin. Since it takes up the whole screen, you would not be able to add other items.
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I was just using that particular option as an example of a menu that is present but cannot be accessed.
See above for a crude definition. There are many versions, so that's why there's so much discussion in these forums about them. People are trying to use versions that didn't come stock with their devices.
TF2D or Manila 2D - for budget devices like the Touch Vivo, Touch Cruise, etc
TF3D v1 - originally came on the Touch Diamond and Touch Pro
TF3D v2- came with the Touch Diamond 2 and our Touch Pro2.
TF3D v2.1 - came with the release of the official WinMo 6.5 ROM for the Touch Diamond2 and our Touch Pro2. Identifiable with the weather under the clock in the Home tab.
TF3D v2.5 - came with the release of the Touch HD2. Has customizable shortcuts on the Home tab, revamped People tab, coverflow-like Pictures tab and Music tab when in landscape, and other goodies.
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That actually clears it up quite a bit. So it appears that my CDMA TP2 with USCC is actually 2.1 or 2.5? I see you stated our TP2 is is 2.1 but your description of 2.5 seems to fit my phone. Either way, it looks like I can just addon on any Manila Cabs that customize the home screen more as Manila is already installed?
Btw, going forward, you may want to list out what you're asking in bullet point form. Most people are put off by long essay-like posts. You'll get more responses if your post is clear and short.
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Sorry about that, I was reading though forums for about 2 hours after the bar last night when I typed all of that. I tend to get a bit winded when I'm intoxicated.
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I was just using that particular option as an example of a menu that is present but cannot be accessed.
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Where else are there menu options that doesn't look like they belong? Anyway, if there are, then it's because of Microsoft and not HTC. We're on WinMo is on version 6.5 now, but it really hasn't changed much since I first used a pocket PC back in 2000.
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Either way, it looks like I can just addon on any Manila Cabs that customize the home screen more as Manila is already installed?
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Certainly, there are components that are possible to install via cabs. But often, you'll need to flash a ROM with the particular build of Manila that you want to get those features.
So just to clear this up, if something is made for TF3D v2, it should (or might) work with our CDMA TP2 running the stock @M6.5 rom?
Also, anyone have a fix for the keyboard thing? I remembered the name of the cab i used to use, null keyboard but can't find anything that works with this rom. I've tried a few reg edits that have not worked.
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So just to clear this up, if something is made for TF3D v2, it should (or might) work with our CDMA TP2 running the stock @M6.5 rom?
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It should, yes. However, if you have a TP2 with WM 6.5 you most likely have Manila 2.1 (in my case 2.1.191937). If you go to the Settings tab and scroll down, you should be able to see which version you have. That being said, many cabs work on all versions, a good few has to have a more specific version (like 2.0, 2.1 or 2.5) and a mere handful needs to be spot on (e.g. 2.1.1717).
After installing such a CAB you often need to restart your TF3D/Manila/Sense, and to do so you go to Start > Settings > Today and tick off HTC Sense. Tap OK and go back in to tick the HTC Sense box again. That restarts your TF3D.
Hope that made sense.
Thx for the clarification, I think I'm ready to start customizing this thing! I'm a bit hesitant as I really like alot of the features that come with the stock home screen. My last windows device was the 8125 and I modded the **** out of that home screen but this one I simply want to add a few highlights without loosing the over all look.
One thing I have been curious about is if there is a way to put a google search bar under the calendar. I know Google apps will put one up but then I have to go to my programs tab and open google apps so I might as well just eliminate a step and open opera.
I haven't checked to be honest with you, but I am satisfied with moving the internet tab a few notches closer to the home screen tab. I find that to be quick and easy enough! One tab on the tab and the google search is at the top of the screen.
Thanks for all the help! You gave me the tools I needed to dive back in. I understand the differences in Manila's now as I've flashed about 5 or 6 different roms. 2.5 is slick in theory, especially when Dusk Evolution v2.0 is theme is added but I had to return to 2.1. Thanks again for the help to get me started.
Im client look at PalRingo.. it's pretty awesome and covers most major networks (yahoo, MSN, gmail, facebook chat, icq others.
Yes, that's what I currently use. Kind of an old thread now too. I've come a long way since I started this thread.
Ok so I know I'll always have unlimited wallpaper options.
But with this whole TouchFlo 3d thing being new to me obviously the world I know of the old home screens have changed a little. (yes I know I can disable touchflo and have the old back...but I like touchflo).
So I am trying to make sense of what my theme options are for my phone
Tmobile Touch Pro 2 with stock tmobile rom (phone purchased 2 weeks ago)
Windows 6.1
Touch Flo 3D version 2.1
plenty of memory
So what I am asking is a pretty newbish question despite me being a windows mobile user for 6 years.
How the hell do I get new themes now. The whole manila utility has me confused its apparant i cant use it but every theme i seem to find is a manila theme, or it is meant for a WVGA phone like the diamond.
So where can I find some that are Touchflo 3d 2.1 friendly and how do I go about installing them now.
Thanks fellas/ladies hope i dont take up too much of your time with this question
A couple of items you should note:
1. The Touch Diamond's resolution is VGA. The Touch Diamond2 and the Touch Pro2's resolutions are WVGA.
2. Manila and TouchFlo3D basically are used interchangeably.
That said, I've given up on manila themes for now. There are too many manila versions. There's 2.0 (without the weather on the home tab), there's 2.1 (with weather on the home tab), there's 2.5 (ported from HD2), and now there's new versions of 2.5 with documents tab...
Anyway, I suppose the advice is that if the theme is packaged into a cab file, give it a try. If it looks funny on your device, then it's not fully compatible with your manila version. Just uninstall it.
Also, it may be worthwhile to have a look at the link in my signature...
I knew I switched WVGA and VGA thanks for that clarification.
And essentially my options without manila are try and find a theme in a cab otherwise I'll struggle.
I read that manila is not compatable with touchflo 3D 2.1 and above. Or am I missing the whole point of how manila works?
For all intents and purposes, "manila" and "TouchFlo3D" are the same.
"TouchFlo3D" was the marketing term used for the HTC custom interface.
"Manila" is HTC's codename for "TouchFlo3D".
"TouchFlo3D" has since been re-branded as "HTC Sense" to be consistent with their custom UI for their Android devices.
In terms of compatibility, as alluded to before, it depends on the version of Manila on your device and the version the theme was made for.
Are there specific release threads somewhere on here for each version from the creator? I keep constantly running into edits and things like that but I cant find the specific release threads. Thanks for your help so far
I also have the same device only difference is I am running windows 6.5. Just yesterday I downloaded a theme from this same forum. The dusk theme. You'll find it just a page or to past this post. Very simple a lot of cab files. The only trouble Im having is installing the windows media and weather program. But take a look pretty cool theme.
Extracting Theme from another ROM
Ok, so I have a different question. Suppose that I like a theme/icons from one ROM, but like the features/performance from another ROM (and assume they are the same version of sense (2.5 with docs tab.)) Is there a way to extract the theme from the ROM and apply that theme to the other ROM that is installed?
Thanks!!
Ok so the dusk theme is pretty independent (looks like it has manila built in) that should be all I need to start off?
I am REALLY confused as to how to get and install themes on my new phone. Some problems i have come across so far, with any instructions i have found, are:
Diamond TF3D Config DOES NOT work on my phone
I CANNOT untick TouchFlo3D as it DOES NOT appear in the items list of the today settings.
Can anyone shed some light on how you theme the phone. What can i be doing wrong?
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I am REALLY confused as to how to get and install themes on my new phone. Some problems i have come across so far, with any instructions i have found, are:
Diamond TF3D Config DOES NOT work on my phone
I CANNOT untick TouchFlo3D as it DOES NOT appear in the items list of the today settings.
Can anyone shed some light on how you theme the phone. What can i be doing wrong?
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First you have to know what version of manila you're using. Are you using stock rom?
sounds like he doesnt have touchflo at all....
update rom, maybe then try...
It goes by different names... see if you have something called HTC Sense in your home items. Or Manilla
How are you trying to install the theme's? Are you talking about a theme for the menu bars (top and bottom) or are you talking about a theme for HTC Sense (Aka Touch flo 3d)
Each should basically install via a cab which is an install program. If its a standard windows mobile theme which will just change the background the bars then you just have to move the theme file which you can move over to a folder onto your phone (not SD card) and you should see it in your themes section in home settings.
If you want to switch appearance of HTC Sense/TouchFlo3d/Manilla... whatever you want to call it You can try this too... Theme Switcher] it looks interesting although Ive never tried it
Hope this helps
go to settings>all settigns>home or today>items
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go to settings>all settigns>home or today>items
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it is used to modify windows desktop theme, not manila theme
manila only supports change wallpaper,
if you want modify manila's theme, you need to modify theme code of manila
Sorry for the lag.
Apparently i do not have TouchFlow3d
I have Sense. Not sure why their is one or the other.... I was never asked which i wanted when buying the phone. Even the CUSTOMIZING HOME SCREEN tutorial on tmobile's site assumes you have TF3D.
The whole thing is just confusing.
And the reason i inquire is because i really hate the stock layout/display/theme of my phone but every single editor/mod/customizer i find is for the touchflo3d!!!!!! ESPECIALLY co0kies home screen editor. I really would have liked that. Why do sense users get the shaft?
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And the reason i inquire is because i really hate the stock layout/display/theme of my phone but every single editor/mod/customizer i find is for the touchflo3d!!!!!! ESPECIALLY co0kies home screen editor. I really would have liked that. Why do sense users get the shaft?
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ummm... you might wanna look into that alittle bit more. cookies home screen works with sense also, 2.1 or 2.5.
TF3D= pretty much the just wm6.1 and what i call a "test" for sense
2.1= pretty much wm6.5 and like TF3d but with graphic improvements and stuff.
2.5= ment for the HD2 but since were cool we ripped it, but pretty much same as 2.1 but just an updated version pretty much
if i may suggest a ROM for you it would be this... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569507
just scroll down to the 2nd post and look for "- valkyrie.ftp v6.7.21904-TR2.5 28th MAY wm6.5 without extra tabbs" it has cookie cooked it it
that would more than likely fit you since its a basic version and has good things preloaded with it. but if you want more than just that then go for this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773
just look for the download button with sense 2.5 and that has the cookie mod already cooked in it as well
just make sure to hardSPL your rhodium before you do any of this. for any more info just look in the ROM development thread and look for things in there.
with that said im done for today and im going to sleep
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Sorry for the lag.
Apparently i do not have TouchFlow3d
I have Sense. Not sure why their is one or the other.... I was never asked which i wanted when buying the phone. Even the CUSTOMIZING HOME SCREEN tutorial on tmobile's site assumes you have TF3D.
The whole thing is just confusing.
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Like I said.. Sense is touchflo3D for all intensive purposes... most of the editors you see WILL work with sense. Sense is the newer name for Touchflo3d.
Sense comes in different varients... 2.1 and 2.5... you likely have one of those. I can't say for sure but I thought that cookies home tab only worked with 2.5 which is a significant upgrade. If it does work with Sense 2.1 then odds are you are good either way.
Do some more reading and you'll find out everything you need.
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Like I said.. Sense is touchflo3D for all intensive purposes... most of the editors you see WILL work with sense. Sense is the newer name for Touchflo3d.
Sense comes in different varients... 2.1 and 2.5... you likely have one of those. I can't say for sure but I thought that cookies home tab only worked with 2.5 which is a significant upgrade. If it does work with Sense 2.1 then odds are you are good either way.
Do some more reading and you'll find out everything you need.
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It doesn't work with 2.1 I already tried a while ago and ended up having to hard reset my phone, losing everything, because it screwed it up.