Perhaps I'm being a penis but can you update the HD2 like a desktop edition of windows i.e. vista / 7 on the flyi.e. over 3G/wifi or are any updates only via Sync?
What is this, I don't even
Windows 6.1 had an update option in the start menu, and that used a data connection/wi-fi - whatever was available. I suppose you could download updates and do it via the usb cable. Anyway, if this option still exists in 6.5, I've not seen it anywhere.
This is probably all moot anyway. I don't think Microsoft bother making updates for windows mobile. That's what xda devs is for
Thanks - I guessed there are very few updates for Winmo just an idea
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I don't think Microsoft bother making updates for windows mobile. That's what xda devs is for
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And where would chefs here on xda get those updates if MS didn't make them? Of course they make updates (called Adaptation Kit Upgrades, referred to as AKU usually), they just don't distribute them to end users. There's a big difference between WM and your desktop system, for major updates on your phone you'll usually have to reflash the whole ROM image. And that ROM image is made by the OEM, not Microsoft, and includes tons of OEM software and drivers. This software can even break with a new update, so pushing OS changes directly could cause lots of problems. So the only safe way to have updates would be from the OEM (HTC in our case). Or we can get them unofficially here.
The Windows Update applet in earlier versions of WM had only minor updates such as daylight time database changes and so on, so I guess it was rarely used by anyone.
Thanks for the Info - I get the drift
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Sorry if this gets asked all the time guys, have scoured your excellent forum for info but to no avail.
My ignorance is due to being an ex smartphone owner, which i am sure you know are easy to de-cert.
I just want to chuck a load of games and non-approved utils onto my XDA, but DAMMIT, it won't fookin let me
Cracking forum by the way guys, has taken me ages to find you!
Mart
Never touched a smart phone. I've never heard of "de-cert." What is it? Doesn't sound like something that needs to be done on the XDA, certainly I've never seen it said here, and I've been around since the dinosaur ages.
It allows non valid windows CE applications to be installed - i.e. not officially approved software
I've never heard of an officially-approved piece of software for a Pocket PC. I don't think there is a certification program for that. In any case, your PPC will let you install any PPC software, approved or not, whatever, it won't care.
Excellent, however I keep getting
"filename" is not a valid windows CE setup file.
Am I being stupid here, installing in the wrong way?
I have only seen that error when I tried running the wrong version (not for Pocket PC) on my unit.
Might want to make sure the app is for Pocket PC and that the cpu type is correct.
Cheers - most of my smartphone software must be incompatible then, even though the spv uses a version of PPC.
Any site recommendations where I can get hold of PPC software for free? seems to be damn expensive in most places!
Thanks again
Smartphone software IS certified... Basically, you pay Microsoft to be able to have your software run on smartphones.
Regular pocket PC or windows mobile on xda devices does NOT have this restriction (and those devices are what this forum is about..)
Smartphone software is not PPC-compatible. Lots of titles have releases for both PPC and Smatphone, but I've never seen one that has both in the same release (though I suppose you could package multiple versions with one installer).
In any case, go to the developers' sites and see if they have PPC compatible versions.
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Smartphone software IS certified... Basically, you pay Microsoft to be able to have your software run on smartphones.
Regular pocket PC or windows mobile on xda devices does NOT have this restriction (and those devices are what this forum is about..)
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Not true, some Smartphone software is certified but not all. There are many applications available for MS Smartphone that can only run on application unlocked handsets. Not all authors can afford to apply for certification and for many utils it's hardly worth the bother. Thankfully for most of the existing handsets it is relatively easy to application unlock them so that uncertified apps can be installed.
And going back to the OP's question, Smartphone software is not the same as PocketPC software and whilst a few rare titles can be run on both, most cannot.
www.freewareppc.com
has loads of goodies on there.
Smartphone software wise - I am not sure but I think I saw an emulator for PPC at one point - could not find it though - does anybody know if this exists as there is some good programs for smartphone that have no PPC equal???
See Avantgo have posted new FAQ's about their latest version.
Seems my sync problem requires a newer windows mobile release from my vendor. T-mobile.
I cant believe these devices are released and consumers have to wait for s/w , firmware patches to get the thing working and usable.
Consumers need better protection and rights.
Re: T-mobile mda pro requires WM upgrade to work with Avantg
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See Avantgo have posted new FAQ's about their latest version.
Seems my sync problem requires a newer windows mobile release from my vendor. T-mobile.
I cant believe these devices are released and consumers have to wait for s/w , firmware patches to get the thing working and usable.
Consumers need better protection and rights.
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You can download the 'tweaker' from http://www.teaks2k2.com. In demo version, it allows you to run 3 times... More then enough to use it to 'patch' the avantgo.exe (the one on the Universal) to force the correct VGA mode. Worked fine for me, and no changes to the device, only to the avantgo.exe
tweaker wont make any difference
It is a bug in sync'ing not the displayer. The tweaker will only fix display bugs.
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It is a bug in sync'ing not the displayer. The tweaker will only fix display bugs.
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I noticed the problem with the link with active sync too, but once connected to the pc with the ActiveSync you can flawless update your Avantgo information when you sync from the local app on the Universal trough your PC to avoid connections/data costs.
what's the utility of windows update in wm side in the shift or others wm phones.
there are no upgrades, nothing.
i read that winmo 6.1 was released. i thought that with win update in winmo something can be updated.
but nothing..
pitt1983 said:
what's the utility of windows update in wm side in the shift or others wm phones.
there are no upgrades, nothing.
i read that winmo 6.1 was released. i thought that with win update in winmo something can be updated.
but nothing..
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Lol. No they are not going to release 6.1 using the WM update.
They never released an update using the WM update.
Updates are available through the manufacturer of the device (in this case HTC)
They have the possibility to give us an update, but that don't have to do this if they don't want this
Windows Mobile 7 will do updates
WinMo 7 will do real updates via "automatic updates"
I think WinMo6 has it in there as some sort of test. I'm sure they count
the number of times the update.winmo site has been accessed from a device.
You can also be sure they datamine the country, model, device etc..
Nothing wrong there. Would like to see some real updates tho'
Keep clicking the icon maybe they'll release something to keep us quiet.
would it be technically possible to run the zune interface for everything that is music/media on windows mobile?
Hmm, I guess just like a skin or a separate application... Tho both are made by M$
Well.. they both run on CE5 unless im mistaken.. So, might be able to do it somehow.
wisbar desktop?
what the OP is asking about is if its possible to port the zune OS over to a windows mobile application. i am nowhere near dev status but i could be possible assuming that the zune OS is based on win CE like windows mobile but i'm not sure how hard it would really be though.
i would love to see this too honestly but i think that something like this would have to come directly from microsoft since a project like that is probably of a questionable legal status.
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Well.. they both run on CE5 unless im mistaken.. So, might be able to do it somehow.
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Seriously?? We need a ROM dump like... NOW. How would that happen?
I think a ROM dump would hardly work on any device...Maybe its kind of locked too. I think the best thing would be to take S2P source code and start a new project "WM_Zune" or so.
Otherwise, if A_C wont release the sourcecode, there would be enough talented people here to to a proper Zune-like app.
regards,
Martin
Well if "Zune" is just a program running on WinMob5, than if we got our hands on it, what would stop xda from cabbing it up like so many other "locked" devices?
http://www.zuneboards.com/microsoft-news/the-pink-and-purple-project.html
sounds like something fresh and new.. like zune is cool too.. not onli the ipod.. being a wm user we should support this idea..
Hi, see if this is any use to you while you wait for the actual application to be ported:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335927
i guess i wont have to work on it since microsoft is doin it anyway...
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/steve-ballmer-confirms-zune-coming-to-windows-mobile/
Zune on WinMo 6.1
Here is another article about Zune porting to WinMo6.1 and other mobile device:
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2008/10/02/zune-music-player-heading-to-windows-mobile/
I hope it doesn't slow the device down to a crawl. WMP bogs down my Mogul.
Hello, has anyone ever got a "windows update" from the option in System Settings?
ive tried loads of times but no update?
Paul.
No, never worked ???
Nope, never had one. Think this is overlooked by MS
Ok not just me then, cheers fellas
Paul.
I wish we didn't wait for the PDA developers to install updates. I wish it was like a normal PC. I wish I could just download an OS from Microsoft an install it to my PDA and download drivers from HTC's web site...
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I wish we didn't wait for the PDA developers to install updates. I wish it was like a normal PC. I wish I could just download an OS from Microsoft an install it to my PDA and download drivers from HTC's web site...
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good wishes but hard to be applied
There's a work being done in that direction...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=520009
mmm
I think it's just there for show dont think It actually does anything nor connects to anything .. mmm
"Just there for show" rubbish, my wife has the blackberry storm and shes had "updates" and things sent automaticly! maybe i should have copied her and got one cos my 3yr old can work my HTC better than me . haha
Paul.
update
Here are some quotes from WindowsMobile team about this topic:
"As I mentioned in my responses to the previous posts, the update capability is something we are continuing to work on, and our licensing restrictions do not permit us to distribute software directly to end-users. The Windows Update for Windows Mobile capability is designed to deliver critical fixes, which we have not had the need to use yet thankfully!"
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