Hi guys, before it goes on Ebay, would anyone like to swap their Magic for a Dream G1?
Mine is rooted with CM 4.0.4, Its boxed with all the bits, The casing is a little scratched but the screen is perfect.
Let me know, Ill post ebay link here if it goes on.
Cheers
Mark
I'd be surprised anyone who has rooted their Magic will trade for a Dream. IMO
Try CEX
Cheers buddy why not exchange it for vouchers at CEX?
http://www.cex.co.uk/search/index.php?stext=htc+g1&ispostback=1&mode=buy
Thanks Alpha, That looks like a good idea......
Cheers
M
Taknarosh said:
I'd be surprised anyone who has rooted their Magic will trade for a Dream. IMO
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Given the fact that a magic lacks a keyboard, it should't surprise you at all, especially since all else is IDENTICAL.
Some (unusual) versions of magic (like the one sold by rogers in canada) have more memory, but typically, a keyboard is far more important than that.
lbcoder said:
Given the fact that a magic lacks a keyboard, it should't surprise you at all, especially since all else is IDENTICAL.
Some (unusual) versions of magic (like the one sold by rogers in canada) have more memory, but typically, a keyboard is far more important than that.
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I respectfully disagree, first off HTC Branded Magics are actually more common than you think, all Asian countries, Canada and some European countries have the 32A version. The reason you might think that 32B are are more ubiquitous would be based on the amount of ROMs made for that version. But that is mostly because most developers are from the US which has the 32B version.
Secondly, if given the choice between being able to use more resource demanding ROM like Sense UI (thanks to the developers here at XDA) or a less that stellar keyboard. The choice is obvious to me. Hence the reason I mentioned rooted phones.
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I think about either buying a i7500 or a Magic soon, but can't really decide which to pick :/
The i7500 has a very nice screen and a better design in general...
But I'm unsure whether it will ever get much community support, like you have here, for custom ROMs which give you all the nice features on your Magic which the other (newer) Android Phones (will) have. Like newer Interfaces (like the ones seen lately here on the forums).
What do you guys think?
My last phone was a HTC Niki, which is now seriously broken. I use my old outdoor Nokia atm.
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But I'm unsure whether it will ever get much community support, like you have here, for custom ROMs which give you all the nice features on your Magic which the other (newer) Android Phones (will) have. Like newer Interfaces (like the ones seen lately here on the forums).
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This was exactly how I felt however the advantages of this forum outweighed the 5mega pixels (I have a Lumix 10Mpixel camera with a flash) the extra memory (I can buy higher capacity SD card to meet my needs) and I prefer the design of the Magic...and it's available now
In my eyes the Magic is inferior by all means.
Except this forum
Also I will by it next month the earliest because I have so save a little money for it first (I'm still studying at University)
xda is the best reason to go with the Magic, no doubt. The Sammy is actually slightly better at almost everything, with a few exceptions, but that really doesn't matter.. without a great dev community like xda backing it, the Sammy is not worth zilch. At least not for power users.
You can get your hands on a magic today, and you have to wait on the Samsung. Most of the spec's seems to be better on the Samsung, but I prefer the design of the htc and I also like the trackball which seems handy for browsing.
I'm also unsure about which to get.
i7500:
Better Camera
LED Flash
More ROM
Better Battery
3.5mm Jack
AMOLED Display
Slimmer Build
Dedicated Camera Key
Price?
Magic:
288MB RAM (i7500 has 128MB)
XDA Dev
Available Now
450 Euro Price
Trackball
The choice is yours but I'm going to wait for reviews and comparisons of both devices. The price of the i7500 is also a big deal for me, but it hasn't been announced yet. I also want to see what becomes of Huawei's device; however I am quite sure it won't have the specs of the i7500 but you never know!
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I'm also unsure about which to get.
i7500:
Better Camera
LED Flash
More ROM
Better Battery
3.5mm Jack
AMOLED Display
Slimmer Build
Dedicated Camera Key
Price?
Magic:
288MB RAM (i7500 has 128MB)
XDA Dev
Available Now
450 Euro Price
The choice is yours but I'm going to wait for reviews and comparisons of both devices. The price of the i7500 is also a big deal for me, but it hasn't been announced yet. I also want to see what becomes of Huawei's device; however I am quite sure it won't have the specs of the i7500 but you never know!
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Also add the trackball to the Magic list.
LOL yea I didn't think the trackball would be to my liking but after having some serious hands-on time with the G1, i sort of got used to it. Seriously thinking about picking up an unlocked version from Timtechs, any one ever ordered from them? Would have ordered from handtec, but they do not carry it
FYI I attended the Australian media launch for the Samsung I7500 Galaxy Icon today
this is my mini-review http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/samsung-i7500-galaxy-icon-android-mobile-smartphone-review/
the fact that 1st magic has the better design (i really find the galaxy awful looking) and the ram-thing(288 vs _128_(!!!)) plus availability of custom roms made me pick the magic.
Im buying a Samsung also
I really like my airtel HTC magic "now". Now that its rooted and thanks to the folks here at the Sapphire forum. The custom ROMs, the developer teams, the themes, the help. I like the magic in all regards. Its my very first Android phone and now with the market on it, with being able to easily add and upgrade applications, and getting rid of that crippled build that airtel India gave me...
But I am curious and I am a gadget boy I guess . So I'll just buy a Samsung and in fact I've pre-ordered it and it ships in a week or so.
I am going to punch the Donate button because I've been doing open source and Linux stuff for over 10 years and this stuff takes a lot of effort.
Hello i''m interested in one between MAGIC and DREAM,but i'm more interested in Dream for its price in primis and also for the qwerty..
I can buy it without great sacrifice but i read around and discovered that because of its poor rom memory it is not going to have future upgrade by android like next "donut" and "eclair"
What do you suggest?Should i make a sacrifice and spend all my budget for a Magic with 512 rom and 282 ram (magic tim) or doesn't worth the difference?
Do you think Magic will have a good donut-clair expirience while Dream is going to die alone with its 1.5 version of android??
I already see it a little tired with swappnes and overclock to run Hero..what do you think?What should i buy?
Thanks!
PS
I'm speaking about a suggestion concerning developement..hope the development section is the right one becouse i'm not interested in general suggestion just a specific one refering the future G1 developement prospect..
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Hello i''m interested in one between MAGIC and DREAM,but i'm more interested in Dream for its price in primis and also for the qwerty..
I can buy it without great sacrifice but i read around and discovered that because of its poor rom memory it is not going to have future upgrade by android like next "donut" and "eclair"
What do you suggest?Should i make a sacrifice and spend all my budget for a Magic with 512 rom and 282 ram (magic tim) or doesn't worth the difference?
Do you think Magic will have a good donut-clair expirience while Dream is going to die alone with its 1.5 version of android??
I already see it a little tired with swappnes and overclock to run Hero..what do you think?What should i buy?
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Buy the Magic!!! just Trust!!! upgrading is always good!!!
first make sure you paid all your bills lol!!!
Its not like Hero isnt sluggish on its own..
I just got the G1 around 2 weeks ago and I love it. It has pretty much everything (and then some) and costs so little in comparison with the more "updated" models.. I dont see anyone stopping development for G1 anytime soon either..
If you need a phone right now, I'd get the g1. If you can wait, I'd skip on the Magic and wait a month or 2, there are quite a few Android phones coming in before Christmas, it might be interesting to check them out.
you need to think long-term and get the htc Magic, much better investment. if you are interested in a keyboard, then consider one of the future android devices that are coming out. there are several with keybaords like motorola or samsung.
the g1 is limited now on space and memory and should be at an end soon. although i am sure development will still continue, you will be limited with what you can actually do.
I'd go with the Samsung Galaxy because 10 GB of storage sound great. The Dream is a dying phone. You can still get donut or eclair possibly if your phone is rooted because of dev's efforts, but it's also frustratingly underpowered.
If I could have any android phone I'd get a Magic, just because the G1 is a brick, and I never use the keyboard so it would be nice to have something a little slimmer.
The 32A Magics with 288mb RAM seem to be imposible to find outside of canada, and I'm sure of you could get hold of one it would be very expensive. Extra space on the ROM doesn't interest me, as we can store pretty much anything we need on our sdcards.
Get the Magic 32A.
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I'm speaking about a suggestion concerning developement..hope the development section is the right one becouse i'm not interested in general suggestion just a specific one refering the future G1 developement prospect..
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No, its probably not the right section. Q&A would be more appropriate.
In any case, pretty much all commercially mass produced Android phones are using MSM720X processors. There is not much difference between Dream and Magic, save the keyboard and in some cases more ram. If you want a better device you will have to wait.
As for whether the Dream will get future development and updates, that's really all up to the Dream development community. I think the current userbase of MSM720X Android devices is broad enough that there should be atleast a few developers sticking around. All the talk of future versions of Android not being provided as carrier updates is way overblown. I mean heck, of the people who do care about that matter, how many actually still run carrier builds anyway?
Bottom line: if you can afford a Dream or Magic, it's still a good time to buy in.
If Motorola doesn't scrw up, the Sholes would probably be the best choice. Slide out QWERTY and an OMAP 3430 Processor = Yey
I don't post much here but if I was going to upgrade or purchase a HTC TATTOO
Code:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/tattoo/specification.html
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I don't post much here but if I was going to upgrade or purchase a HTC TATTOO
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http://www.htc.com/www/product/tattoo/specification.html
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I wouldn't go for the TATTOO, it lacks a capacitive display.
it also lacks the hvga screen, it has a qvga
This is DEVELOPMENT section.
Wait for the new phones, the storage limitations can be patched with reformatting and external flash, but the raw CPU power difference will be vital for future updates.
This should not be in this section. Thats why God invented the general section
I probably wouldn't buy a G1 right now
I love my G1 and wouldn't trade it for anything currently available (because of the keyboard) but I think the Nand and RAM limitations are genuine concerns going forward. If I HAD to purchase a new phone right now, I'd still get the G1, but otherwise I'd wait a few months and check out the other qwerty options available.
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it also lacks the hvga screen, it has a qvga
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The lack of capacitive isn't necessarily a bad thing (in fact stylus input for entering Chinese characters is a big reason why resistive touchscreens are still prevalent, especially in Asia). However, the downgrade to QVGA is a real bummer. Not just that it's a cost cutting issue, but that HVGA is (rightfully or otherwise) assumed resolution for the currently available applications.
Bottom line is for HTC enthusiasts, the rightful successor to the Dream has not been announced or previewed yet.
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I love my G1 and wouldn't trade it for anything currently available (because of the keyboard) but I think the Nand and RAM limitations are genuine concerns going forward. If I HAD to purchase a new phone right now, I'd still get the G1, but otherwise I'd wait a few months and check out the other qwerty options available.
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That's pretty much my philosophy - I wouldn't buy any phone right now as a "future proof" purchase. Every phone out has its limitations: the Dream's being memory and the Magic being the lack of hard keys. As a purchase TODAY, I'd probably get the G1 again, but either is gonna offer a nice experience. If I could wait a few months, I would definitely do that - there's several nice Android options in the pipeline.
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I don't post much here but if I was going to upgrade or purchase a HTC TATTOO
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http://www.htc.com/www/product/tattoo/specification.html
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tattoo is an entry level android phone with a resistive touchscreen. smaller screen.
Drizzy Drake Rogers said:
Buy the Magic!!! just Trust!!! upgrading is always good!!!
first make sure you paid all your bills lol!!!
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words from a developer. he suggested the magic. u should take his words since he does makes roms and see's what our dreams/g1s can and cannot do.
So I'm seeing multiple reports concerning HTC Hero for Verzion including reports from:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/10/06/htc-hero-hitting-verizon-in-november/
and
http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/second-verizon-android-phone-to-be-the-htc-hero-motorola-sholes/
Sooooo let the speculation begin!!! I'll go first....
I wonder if it's going to have the same hardware since it's going to be keeping the same name 'HTC Hero' I'm new to HTC but I'm sure they wouldn't market the same device with different specs on a different carrier especially since it's keeping the same name or do they have a history of doing that?
Given that the Sprint Hero looks nothing like the original worldwide Hero but shares the same name, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they've just repackaged the Sprint Hero in a new case!
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
I wouldn't be at all surprised if they've just repackaged the Sprint Hero in a new case!
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I looks like that from the pictures.
I'm sure the carriers want differentiation (look, our Hero looks nothing like Sprint's phone ). So instead of the support nightmare of different hardware platforms, you just build one with different shells.
I wonder if we'll be able to transplant the Hero into different cases once some storefront in Kowloon starts selling them
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I wonder if we'll be able to transplant the Hero into different cases once some storefront in Kowloon starts selling them
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Now that would be BRILLIANT! Where do I sign up? If I could get the sprint version in the EU case that would be absolutely perfect.
Actually, looking at the pictures in the above links and the HTC Europe web site it looks a lot like the HTC Tattoo.
Yea it does look like a cross between the Hero and the Tattoo. A lot of sites are listing it as the HTC Desire though.
After seeing an official Android 2.0/2.1 update being released for the T-Mobile G1 discussed here and here, I haven't see anything else about it. Does anyone know if this will still happen, or are Dream/Magic users out of luck when it comes to anything beyond 1.6?
They can say they're official all they want, but it's not official until TMo says it officially. Nobody really knows at this point. . . just a ton of speculation.
Has nothing to do with tmobile.
Has to do with HTC.
It doesn't matter if tmobile wants it or not -- if HTC doesn't produce it, it doesn't happen.
Note: tmobile can even REFUSE it, but that doesnt mean that any of *us* are out of luck since HTC [is supposed to] support ADP1 directly -- tmobile has nothing to do with this AT ALL.
Ok, thanks for the responses. I asked because I really want something new. With Android 2.0 and 2.1 being out, and with other phones having the awesome Sense interface, a phone with Donut and without Sense is downright boring to me. If no official 2.0/2.1 ROM will be released for the Dream, I may take the plunge to root and switch to the CM ROM. I'd rather have an official 2.0 though!
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Has nothing to do with tmobile.
Has to do with HTC.
It doesn't matter if tmobile wants it or not -- if HTC doesn't produce it, it doesn't happen.
Note: tmobile can even REFUSE it, but that doesnt mean that any of *us* are out of luck since HTC [is supposed to] support ADP1 directly -- tmobile has nothing to do with this AT ALL.
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tmobile has to request the update from google. In the end t mobile gets to decide if we get the upgrade, if old gen phones keep gettin updated then no one will buy new phones.
Well the Roger's Magic is getting 2.1 with Sense. They said, however, that their G1's will not get the update due to certain limitations on the device. So those with other carriers, like T-Mobile might not get it either...
http://androidandme.com/2010/01/pho...s-android-software-updates-for-select-phones/
Makes me wonder if the MT3G might not get the update either due to it being a 32B and not a 32A like the Roger's or other 32A phones.
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Well the Roger's Magic is getting 2.1 with Sense. They said, however, that their G1's will not get the update due to certain limitations on the device. So those with other carriers, like T-Mobile might not get it either...
http://androidandme.com/2010/01/pho...s-android-software-updates-for-select-phones/
Makes me wonder if the MT3G might not get the update either due to it being a 32B and not a 32A like the Roger's or other 32A phones.
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Robbers is a bunch of liars.
They claim that they can't upgrade past 1.FIVE due to hardware limitations... well gee, everybody else everywhere already has 1.6.
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tmobile has to request the update from google. In the end t mobile gets to decide if we get the upgrade, if old gen phones keep gettin updated then no one will buy new phones.
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Google has NOTHING to do with it. Google does NOT have the required source. HTC has the required source. HTC supports ADP1 directly. If HTC is unwilling, then nothing happens. If HTC chooses to build the necessary binaries, then we're good as gold. Tmobile can ask until they're blue in the face. It is still ENTIRELY UP TO HTC.
I'm new to Android and Android modding, so can I get some advice as to where to go from here? I've flashed phones before (most recently my SE TM506 to the generic SE firmware), but that was extremely simple by comparison.
I feel that a G1 user with stock T-Mobile OTA Donut is really getting left behind, so I'd like to try something newer. I would love 2.1 and HTC Sense, but that doesn't seem likely, and an official 2.0/2.1 OTA ROM seems less and less likely as well. CyanogenMod is an obvious choice, but the upgrade procedure is very intimidating to me, and I also hear a lot of conflicts/bugs that people experience with that ROM.
What should someone that's new to Android modding do to keep getting the most out of their Dream?
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What should someone that's new to Android modding do to keep getting the most out of their Dream?
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Root and experiment with new roms.
You wont look back
I'm wanting a phone that's got the power (if not more) than the HD2 had but using the Android OS. I've had two of these phones so far and the mms issue is really, really annoying amongst other things people have already mentioned but I'm not going to do that.
Aesthetically speaking the phone was phenomenal as well as its hardware, software wise it just felt on its face for me.
Anyhow any suggestions for things that are coming out that a tmobile USA customer could use I would appreciate it or something that's sort of identical to the HD2 just in android form.
Closest non HTC I have seen running Android hardware wise, is the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10.
Same Snapdragon 1ghz and similar ram setup. Also very sleek and similar design.
I have one of them too, tbh I do prefer the HD2. winmo 6 isnt as bad as previous versions and the HD2 comes with sense. With a few tweaks its doing far more than my X10.
Anyhow, not sure if its available in the US, but I cant see why not.
Hope this helps,
Sp4wn
uh the evo on sprint ius nearly identical hardware with android...how are you on xda and don't know this?
Evo 4G is pretty much identical to the HD2 and it runs Android with sense(has 8mp camera in the back, front facing camera, and hdmi mini out). It's coming out this summer (June i think), but it's for sprint so you'd have to change carriers.
At this time, you're not going to find anything more powerful than HD2, since all it's components are max of what's out there atm.
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uh the evo on sprint ius nearly identical hardware with android...how are you on xda and don't know this?
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I don't make it a habit of frequenting all the other boards all the time and I'm with tmobile USA so I get even more limited with what phones they have to offer and I'm not a huge fan of spending 500+ for a phone if I can help it..
As for the evo, thank you very much - that sounds like something I would be completely interested in going for.
If the Hd2 ends up getting some updates that make sense stop crashing I'd be all over it.