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Samsung i7500 vs HTC Magic

I think about either buying a i7500 or a Magic soon, but can't really decide which to pick :/
The i7500 has a very nice screen and a better design in general...
But I'm unsure whether it will ever get much community support, like you have here, for custom ROMs which give you all the nice features on your Magic which the other (newer) Android Phones (will) have. Like newer Interfaces (like the ones seen lately here on the forums).
What do you guys think?
My last phone was a HTC Niki, which is now seriously broken. I use my old outdoor Nokia atm.

Alienfreak said:
But I'm unsure whether it will ever get much community support, like you have here, for custom ROMs which give you all the nice features on your Magic which the other (newer) Android Phones (will) have. Like newer Interfaces (like the ones seen lately here on the forums).
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This was exactly how I felt however the advantages of this forum outweighed the 5mega pixels (I have a Lumix 10Mpixel camera with a flash) the extra memory (I can buy higher capacity SD card to meet my needs) and I prefer the design of the Magic...and it's available now

In my eyes the Magic is inferior by all means.
Except this forum
Also I will by it next month the earliest because I have so save a little money for it first (I'm still studying at University)

xda is the best reason to go with the Magic, no doubt. The Sammy is actually slightly better at almost everything, with a few exceptions, but that really doesn't matter.. without a great dev community like xda backing it, the Sammy is not worth zilch. At least not for power users.

You can get your hands on a magic today, and you have to wait on the Samsung. Most of the spec's seems to be better on the Samsung, but I prefer the design of the htc and I also like the trackball which seems handy for browsing.

I'm also unsure about which to get.
i7500:
Better Camera
LED Flash
More ROM
Better Battery
3.5mm Jack
AMOLED Display
Slimmer Build
Dedicated Camera Key
Price?
Magic:
288MB RAM (i7500 has 128MB)
XDA Dev
Available Now
450 Euro Price
Trackball
The choice is yours but I'm going to wait for reviews and comparisons of both devices. The price of the i7500 is also a big deal for me, but it hasn't been announced yet. I also want to see what becomes of Huawei's device; however I am quite sure it won't have the specs of the i7500 but you never know!

ma3a20 said:
I'm also unsure about which to get.
i7500:
Better Camera
LED Flash
More ROM
Better Battery
3.5mm Jack
AMOLED Display
Slimmer Build
Dedicated Camera Key
Price?
Magic:
288MB RAM (i7500 has 128MB)
XDA Dev
Available Now
450 Euro Price
The choice is yours but I'm going to wait for reviews and comparisons of both devices. The price of the i7500 is also a big deal for me, but it hasn't been announced yet. I also want to see what becomes of Huawei's device; however I am quite sure it won't have the specs of the i7500 but you never know!
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Also add the trackball to the Magic list.

LOL yea I didn't think the trackball would be to my liking but after having some serious hands-on time with the G1, i sort of got used to it. Seriously thinking about picking up an unlocked version from Timtechs, any one ever ordered from them? Would have ordered from handtec, but they do not carry it

FYI I attended the Australian media launch for the Samsung I7500 Galaxy Icon today
this is my mini-review http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/samsung-i7500-galaxy-icon-android-mobile-smartphone-review/

the fact that 1st magic has the better design (i really find the galaxy awful looking) and the ram-thing(288 vs _128_(!!!)) plus availability of custom roms made me pick the magic.

Im buying a Samsung also
I really like my airtel HTC magic "now". Now that its rooted and thanks to the folks here at the Sapphire forum. The custom ROMs, the developer teams, the themes, the help. I like the magic in all regards. Its my very first Android phone and now with the market on it, with being able to easily add and upgrade applications, and getting rid of that crippled build that airtel India gave me...
But I am curious and I am a gadget boy I guess . So I'll just buy a Samsung and in fact I've pre-ordered it and it ships in a week or so.
I am going to punch the Donate button because I've been doing open source and Linux stuff for over 10 years and this stuff takes a lot of effort.

Android Developer Phone 1

Would it be stupid to pick one of these up right now? I am really unhappy with the current phone choices on the market. Everything is an iPhone clone. I just want something basic I can check maps/review sites/google directions. I also enjoy modding hardware and software and I know how much of a toy the G1 is to a lot of people in regards to playing with different roms.
Thoughts? Suggestions? Huge waste of money?

Perfectly nice phone. EXTREMELY versatile.
It has also come down in price since it was originally launched -- originally $399 US, now its down to $329.
If you aren't worried about your phone having the absolute fastest CPU or the most RAM, and like playing with it, then this is a GREAT phone to have.
And despite all the chicken little's out there, it has a LOT of life left in it. Android 2.1 (eclaire) runs fine on it (some people might say its dead slow, but that is only the case when using software GL -- the new builds with hardware GL drivers are ***almost*** ready....). Rumor has it that it will even get an OFFICIAL 2.1 upgrade at some point.

lbcoder said:
Perfectly nice phone. EXTREMELY versatile.
It has also come down in price since it was originally launched -- originally $399 US, now its down to $329.
If you aren't worried about your phone having the absolute fastest CPU or the most RAM, and like playing with it, then this is a GREAT phone to have.
And despite all the chicken little's out there, it has a LOT of life left in it. Android 2.1 (eclaire) runs fine on it (some people might say its dead slow, but that is only the case when using software GL -- the new builds with hardware GL drivers are ***almost*** ready....). Rumor has it that it will even get an OFFICIAL 2.1 upgrade at some point.
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Thank you, this is exactly the kind of post I was looking for. Question: did most of the developers drop this for N1?

A good phone, yes, but as always, you start longing for the latest greatest hardware out there. No matter, the physical kbd of HTC Dream/ADP1 makes it well worth its money. I'd never get an Android phone with just on screen kbd. Never.
As a developer, having first gen hardware to test stuff on makes sure you don't create things that only the 2nd (or 3rd gen) hardware runs properly. I still love my ADP1. And probably will for at least a year more.
/Mats

ZilverZurfarn said:
As a developer, having first gen hardware to test stuff on makes sure you don't create things that only the 2nd (or 3rd gen) hardware runs properly. I still love my ADP1. And probably will for at least a year more.
/Mats
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As long as there are potential customers with first gen devices out there, there will always be a purpose to have an ADP1 or something similar around for development.
As for just consumer usage, i'd say just find a G1 on fleabay or CL. It will run much less and with the proper hackery can function just as well as ADP1.

jashsu said:
As long as there are potential customers with first gen devices out there, there will always be a purpose to have an ADP1 or something similar around for development.
As for just consumer usage, i'd say just find a G1 on fleabay or CL. It will run much less and with the proper hackery can function just as well as ADP1.
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The only side effects of that are the potential to get something that is broken or rogers...
And not to mention the cool battery cover graphics

Just picked it up. Now I just need to find a class 6 which is turning out ot be a bit harder than I thought, suggestions?

HellOfABlackHat said:
Just picked it up. Now I just need to find a class 6 which is turning out ot be a bit harder than I thought, suggestions?
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newegg?
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[Q] What to get after HD2...

Hi all
I was just wondering if you can share any comments what smartphone have best apps in 2011.
What you will buy after HD2 ?
thanks

This is a question thats on my mind at the minute as well.
The main problem for me is that Ive become so used to the 4.3" screen that I really dont think I could handle using a phone with a screen of less than 4".
Im currently torn between the DHD, Nexus S, Incredible S, Desire S or the Sensation.
Im seriously thinking about waiting until June for the sensation, my concern is the battery though. HTC seem to be pretty lax when it comes to getting optimal battery life from a phone, the sensation with its dual core and new sense (which will probably be even more of a memory hog than the old sense) is going to tear the arse out of any battery.
Theres also the issue of how long its going to take to acheive root / s-off.... (Im very impatient and will not be able to put up with sense for that long, I really dont like the android version for some reason.)
DHD, obviously very similar to the HD2 with a good amount of development going on. However, poor battery life and the age of the device put me off a little. When I upgrade I'm going to have that phone for 18 months so I feel like I should probably go for a evice thats as new as possible.
Nexus, the only thing really putting me off is the fact that its made of nasty looking shiny plastic and doesnt feel as solid as the HD2. Also not a huge selection of custom ROMS for it from what I can see, compared to some devices.
So errr yeah... lol

Well I would recommend you to watch the latest updates at MIX 11 about WP7 Mango update I think you will like it a lot. And now that DFT is bringing Custom SPL to WP7 Source: Twitter (CotullaCode)
I think Android is great, it opens many doors specially for people on XDA, but the thing is. I always think android is missing the experience. It's not fun, and it's just an OS with apps. I will use Android till the end of my contract... And when the time comes I definitely get a WP7 device. Of course an 4.3"(+) screen. Once you get a fridge phone always a fridge phone Personally I'm waiting for Nokia to join the WP7 party, I know Nokia has the best and trustworthy hardware for their phones.

I just took Nexus S, actually looks not bad but screen is noticeably smaller. I did it because I wanted to resell my HD2 while still in warranty and Samsung are offering very good discounts on the SNS in France (it costs less than the Galaxy!). When Sensation comes out and price calms down I'll resell the SNS to get that marvel. Sadly, I'm hugely missing HTC Sense...

seriously even i am kinna confused i i say i want desirehd its been already ported to hd2 & so also nexus...i hope htc comes out dual core hd2...so we can start the fun all over again i know its not possible!
But ATM its just hd2 for me!

I think HTC EVO 3D will be my next phone after HD2 TMOUS

Simple, ....Another HD2

Nimac91 said:
Well I would recommend you to watch the latest updates at MIX 11 about WP7 Mango update I think you will like it a lot. And now that DFT is bringing Custom SPL to WP7 Source: Twitter (CotullaCode)
I think Android is great, it opens many doors specially for people on XDA, but the thing is. I always think android is missing the experience. It's not fun, and it's just an OS with apps. I will use Android till the end of my contract... And when the time comes I definitely get a WP7 device. Of course an 4.3"(+) screen. Once you get a fridge phone always a fridge phone Personally I'm waiting for Nokia to join the WP7 party, I know Nokia has the best and trustworthy hardware for their phones.
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Sadly I totaly disagree with your Nokia statement - they have lost the plot in high end phones over the last couple of years.
The N8 is a software nightmare, as was the 5800 and that range of phones.
Their new mid range phone C7 - C5 have software issues.
This is not just my view I work it Mobile technical support. Nokia are no longer the top manufacturer - they do not rate the top 5 now. Use Google and read the comments from their CEO, he says about the same!
Incredible is my next phone - if my provider supply it

I think that Iphone 4 is superior for the touch screen and for the smoothness of system...Nevertheless I'm waiting for new devices of Htc like Sensation or evo 3d to make a choice...

Samsung Galaxy S 2 anyone?

I've been wondering this too. I just bought an HD2, but of course, the phone is a year old already, and smartphones are now getting 1GB RAM, 16GB internal storage, and dual core processors.
Before long, the HD2 is going to be out of date.
Personally, the most attractive aspect of the HD2 to me is how incredibly hackable it is. If I were to upgrade, I would hope whatever phone I upgrade to would have several OSes available to use too (as opposed to just several derivatives of the same OS).

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Simple, ....Another HD2
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Hit the nail on the head there brother!
The HD7 is a minor temptation, but after playing with a Mozart I found that there is no connecting to a hidden network, or as a mass storage device. A shame as everything else is very nice in WP7.
So I am keeping my eye out for hot deals on HD2's
Edit: Forgot about the non-removeable/expandable storage in WP7 (I have 32Gb in my HD2)

probably getting sensation for daily driver but will be saving this HD2 because its superphone over anything, probably ever because of OS possibilities.
If there doesnt come any other better phones than sensation I will be getting it when it releases.

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Samsung Galaxy S 2 anyone?
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this or the htc sensation, im tempted to save the money and buy an s2 with the tegra 2 chip. It seems like tegra 2 will be widely supported and it'll have games optimised for it also it may lead to the phone being cracked faster.

For me there realy isnt any phone that beats HD2 (still). Im a WM6.1 ,WM6.5.x fanboy. the only hing that I miss at HD2 is harwware keyboard. but other then that it still is the perfect phone in my opinion. I never oliked phones that you get bored of quickly. HD2 has alot of development going on xda. you can have numerous OSes running on it. It never gets boring. I probably will not change my phone before there is realy something special (no, galaxy S 2 isnt special enough ).

At the moment I'm still torn between different OS's(ssssss). I've been warming to WinPho 7, but after reading over on Pocket Now about some of the things that might STILL be missing even after the Mango update later this year, I don't think I can wait. http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-7-mango-the-missing-features No smart dialing, no flash support in the browser? What on earth are Microsoft doing?
Having said I can't wait for Microsoft to get their act together, if I could stick a super LCD in my HD2 and a better camera sensor, I would happily keep it for another year or two until quad core chips are out and are selling at reasonable money.
The Sensation will be such a rip-off SIM-free here in the UK this summer I couldn't bring myself to buy one; there'll be much better and more efficient hardware out by the end of '11, beginning '12 ; )

G2x
Stock Android
Tegra Dual Core
4g
Supports a WIDE range of spectrums and supports ATT 3g along with T-Mobile's 4g and 3g
All screen and no keyboard.
It's literally future proof (since ATT will be eating Tmobile soon)

The SGS2 looks better than the Sensation in terms of specs?

[Q] Is there life after HD2?

Well!!!
I'm a HD2 user from November 2009 which means it's almost 2 years old.
For a phone that's quit old. Now I'm running Mango on it and I also had many android versions running on it. I really love this device.
Now comes my problem!!
I want to buy a new phone but I want the same phone which can run many OS.
Should I wait until the Eternity or will there be another "über"-Phone (über = German for Gorgeous/great/Master/better then ever/beyond everything else)?
I think you all know what I mean. The HD2 is just great and I want something similar again.
What do you think???
Regards, Martijn

I suggest waiting a few more months (or years?) for the HTC Holiday .. it seems to be the device of its decade

i have my hd2 also since it was released and i think that i will wait until the quadcore chips come to phones. i can live with the hd2 at the moment and i think buying a dualcore device now isn't worth it when quadcores are announced for the mid of next year. maybe i'll buy a cheap used phone inbetween to play with but not a new high end device.

LMAO.
I just bought an HD2. And for the same reason you don't want to leave it.
I want to experience everything I can. You can't do that with any phone.

Lucky me than, im going to buy HD2 tomorrow

There is no real upgrade in my opinion. The only signifcant upgrade I reckon is in battery life, front cam, a slighty better rear cam and perhaps screen quality.
I have had; Desire, Desire HD, Legend and now Nexus S. They are all so similar to HD2 it feels cool for the first day and then you realize there was really no point in upgrading.
Sansung GS II is the biggest upgrade IMO, but then you are stuck on a stock ROM

rauschkugl said:
i have my hd2 also since it was released and i think that i will wait until the quadcore chips come to phones. i can live with the hd2 at the moment and i think buying a dualcore device now isn't worth it when quadcores are announced for the mid of next year. maybe i'll buy a cheap used phone inbetween to play with but not a new high end device.
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If you're going to think like that then might as well wait for the 8 core phones instead of buying a quad core phone.

Well but they are Not manufactured yet. The kal el is done and working. And if you Upgrade and some month later there is such better Hardware available you'll also get angry. The difference between our hd2 and a dual core device is Not that big. At the Moment the hd2 is still pretty up to date. I know very well that waiting for the next good thing to come out would never end when we Talk about smartphones or Computers. There is just no really big fish out at the Moment like the hd2 was in 2009. So i for myself will wait for quadcores and 720p Displays because this will be worth the Upgrade from the hd2.

Unfortunately, I think the HD2 was unique with all the possibilities and hacking and the great developers coming together at one time. I've been watching and waiting for the next great phone, but I think that when the HD2 finally fades away, there won't be another phone with the same abilities because of the lack of developers focused on it. I just don't know what I'll do, I guess I'll actually have to decide on an Android or WP7 phone (but I really really like being able to jump between the two with just a reboot)!

If you can't wait there's been a bit of buzz around the Xiaomi M1 phone - supposedly able to run multiple OS's.
Feel free to shoot me down in flames if I've mis-interpreted the description of it.

Duflet said:
If you can't wait there's been a bit of buzz around the Xiaomi M1 phone - supposedly able to run multiple OS's.
Feel free to shoot me down in flames if I've mis-interpreted the description of it.
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It cannot run multiple OS's, but it is a very awesome looking phone. It is basically an Android modder's dream if the development is there, but only Android. It won't ever run WM or WP

orangekid said:
It cannot run multiple OS's, but it is a very awesome looking phone. It is basically an Android modder's dream if the development is there, but only Android. It won't ever run WM or WP
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true. this could really be a cheap option to get a phone were some great developement could go on. we'll see how good it really will be. this price is pretty cheap for a phone with such hardware. hope it won't be cheap china crap.
but somehow i'm missing the flash and front facing cam.

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true. this could really be a cheap option to get a phone were some great developement could go on. we'll see how good it really will be. this price is pretty cheap for a phone with such hardware. hope it won't be cheap china crap.
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It's using a 1.5 ghz snapdragon/adreno with 1GB ram SoC so you know the raw specs are freaking amazing.
What I want to see is how good the screen is and how good the code is. They are making a bad-ass phone with a stock-custom ROM (if that makes sense), it would be like HTC releasing a phone running stock CM7 on it or something.
If there is custom ROM support for this thing like CM7 and stuff I might get it.

i know the phone thanks. but build quality has to be good.

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i know the phone thanks. but build quality has to be good.
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yeah hopefully they don't use crap plastic like samsung.

even at the size and weight, with those kind of specs
i will definitely be getting 1 just for the heck of testing and flashing
with CM7, hell yeah definitely my go to phone

That phone looks like the first iPhone.
Anyway I'm very happy with my HD2.
by the way is this just a nice render or nearby future.
HTTP://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637768
(I hope the link works, I'm running a mango version where copy paste doesn't work very good)

martijnloeffen said:
That phone looks like the first iPhone.
Anyway I'm very happy with my HD2.
by the way is this just a nice render or nearby future.
HTTP://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637768
(I hope the link works, I'm running a mango version where copy paste doesn't work very good)
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Lol @ it runs a discontinued OS

Well i think there is not one out there that can replace the HD2. Why change a winner with a posible expencive new one. If your phone will break, it wil only cost you 150-200 Euro to replace.

depends where you live. here i have to pay still 400 euro to get a new one.

[Q] HD2 Modern Alternative

I'm looking for an alternative for the HD2 as it's getting pretty old. What recent phone, in your opinion, will replace the HD2? Which one will be great for hacking and modding? Just want to know what you guys think...
Finally, what is the best used phone, with the best dev/mod support, I could get under about £150? My current phone is broken and I need a cheap replacement.
Python.

HTC One X looked promising, but...
Hardware in fact is crap. It's not polished(battery life, signal hardware failure, random FUBARs), it's too pricy(for now) and development is still in it's infant stage.
So my advice for now is: Wait.
There will be soon a newer device(pentacore maybe) with all features improved OR One X gets proper attention like HD2 did.

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HTC One X looked promising, but...
Hardware in fact is crap. It's not polished(battery life, signal hardware failure, random FUBARs), it's too pricy(for now) and development is still in it's infant stage.
So my advice for now is: Wait.
There will be soon a newer device(pentacore maybe) with all features improved OR One X gets proper attention like HD2 did.
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Thanks for the advice.
But, what is the best one at the moment? Also, what is the best one which you can get used for under about £150?
I dropped my current one and the screen is completely broken. I'm using a backup dumb-phone and am short on cash. I was hoping to get a new phone in the next few months as good as the HD2 but for under £150 used...

iphone!

Personally, I'd just get another HD2 for now. Will not touch Apple with 10 meter pole, not liking Android and its deficiencies wrt Windows sync and Google-centrism, have not tested WP7 though. I do like my phone not talking to some cloud service every couple of minutes but this is getting rarer to come by if you want a smartphone. That's why I love my HD2 so much, it just sits there and does... nothing. :good:

If you don't wanna buy another hd2,for the amount of cash you mentioned,probably you can get used Samsung(Google) Nexus S. I believe it will be better alternative for the same price,though I love so much my hd2.
It also has a good dev support

I would suggest either another HD2 or if you want a dual core the sensation doesn't look like a bad option.

Thanks guys.
At the moment, I am between buying another HD2 or a Sensation. The Sensation is more powerful but can only run android. I could dual boot with the HD2.
But, I want a phone that will last for a few more years. Do you think that the HD2 will do that? What do you guys think would be the better choice?

Python. said:
Thanks guys.
At the moment, I am between buying another HD2 or a Sensation. The Sensation is more powerful but can only run android. I could dual boot with the HD2.
But, I want a phone that will last for a few more years. Do you think that the HD2 will do that? What do you guys think would be the better choice?
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I think the HD2 will last another year at least in terms of relevance. In terms of support it's one of, if not the, largest community. More developers means longer support. The HD2 will undoubtedly continue receiving winmo support. Despite MS' announcement that WM8 won't work on single core processors I have my doubts about their desire to provide older devices with an update even if they could handle it.
Jelly Bean will run on the HD2 and I suspect we'll see it shortly.
So in terms of software support--it's certainly a viable phone for the short and long term.
The only real concern is if it's holding up for you. For me I was desiring a dual core. But then I saw someone post a brand new HD2 on craigslist in the box and everything so I snapped it up. It will last me at least another year when I'm in a better financial situation and the next phones will be out--I think the newest ones just announced are still raking us consumers over the fire with senseless trade-offs (internal storage without sdcard or multi-core with outdated gnu, for examples).
Now I'm listing my older HD2 but I'm going to take a hit since I just had a shop replace the digitizer. Oh well, such is life The shortest answer I can give you is if you were happy with the performance of the HD2 then it's a safe buy at the current prices I see over here in the States--roughly half the Sensation's price but it's more than half the phone.

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I think the HD2 will last another year at least in terms of relevance. In terms of support it's one of, if not the, largest community. More developers means longer support. The HD2 will undoubtedly continue receiving winmo support. Despite MS' announcement that WM8 won't work on single core processors I have my doubts about their desire to provide older devices with an update even if they could handle it.
Jelly Bean will run on the HD2 and I suspect we'll see it shortly.
So in terms of software support--it's certainly a viable phone for the short and long term.
The only real concern is if it's holding up for you. For me I was desiring a dual core. But then I saw someone post a brand new HD2 on craigslist in the box and everything so I snapped it up. It will last me at least another year when I'm in a better financial situation and the next phones will be out--I think the newest ones just announced are still raking us consumers over the fire with senseless trade-offs (internal storage without sdcard or multi-core with outdated gnu, for examples).
Now I'm listing my older HD2 but I'm going to take a hit since I just had a shop replace the digitizer. Oh well, such is life The shortest answer I can give you is if you were happy with the performance of the HD2 then it's a safe buy at the current prices I see over here in the States--roughly half the Sensation's price but it's more than half the phone.
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Thanks for the help.
So, overall, what would you suggest? I'm being offered a Sensation for about £165 and a HD2 for about the same. The Sensation is used, but no scratches on the screen, while the HD2 is like new.

Python. said:
Thanks for the help.
So, overall, what would you suggest? I'm being offered a Sensation for about £165 and a HD2 for about the same. The Sensation is used, but no scratches on the screen, while the HD2 is like new.
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For the same price I would go with the Sensation personally.
Here in the states (Southern California, at least) the HD2's are being listed $120-150. I've been seeing the Sensations for about $240-260. So roughly double the price. Those are the prices I was basing my rational upon, not if they are the same price. But if you are itching to run winmo then the specs of the Sensation are less relevant...I can't answer those personal decisions for you

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For the same price I would go with the Sensation personally.
Here in the states (Southern California, at least) the HD2's are being listed $120-150. I've been seeing the Sensations for about $240-260. So roughly double the price. Those are the prices I was basing my rational upon, not if they are the same price. But if you are itching to run winmo then the specs of the Sensation are less relevant...I can't answer those personal decisions for you
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I understand. I just wanted to know what others think. Personally, I was leaning to the Sensation but it was difficult as the dev support is tiny compared to the HD2 and it can't run multiple OSs. I'm in the UK so the prices are quite different. One last question: would a US phone work in the UK? Thanks for all the help.

Python. said:
I understand. I just wanted to know what others think. Personally, I was leaning to the Sensation but it was difficult as the dev support is tiny compared to the HD2 and it can't run multiple OSs. I'm in the UK so the prices are quite different. One last question: would a US phone work in the UK? Thanks for all the help.
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It depends on the bands and I don't know the specifics. You could compare the HD2 Tmobile and HD2 International to see the differences and that can guide your purchasing decision.

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It depends on the bands and I don't know the specifics. You could compare the HD2 Tmobile and HD2 International to see the differences and that can guide your purchasing decision.
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No problem. Just wondered if you had any idea.

Go for sensation without hesitation. I got hd2 and my brother sensation. I'm happy with my phone,but to be honest sensation is a way better. It's much faster,has better camera. Dev support is not tiny at all. You can get all of the kind of roms sense,cyanogen,miui. That's true you can't run winmobile or winphone there, but who cares. For the same price sensation is better choice.

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Go for sensation without hesitation. I got hd2 and my brother sensation. I'm happy with my phone,but to be honest sensation is a way better. It's much faster,has better camera. Dev support is not tiny at all. You can get all of the kind of roms sense,cyanogen,miui. That's true you can't run winmobile or winphone there, but who cares. For the same price sensation is better choice.
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Thanks. I think that is what I will do...

Hm... I got the Motorola RAZR and the HTC HD2. If you want a really slim and light phone, the RAZR is better than the Sensation. The Sensation is thicker, and doesn't have Dual-Channel RAM.

Does the phone still work? is it Tmous? interested in selling it for parts? I have one where the screen is fine but i ran into the dreaded end button killing the touchscreen problem... sigh....

Benji96 said:
Hm... I got the Motorola RAZR and the HTC HD2. If you want a really slim and light phone, the RAZR is better than the Sensation. The Sensation is thicker, and doesn't have Dual-Channel RAM.
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Well, I don't like Motorola phones. Bad experiences in the past. So, it seems it would be a Sensation XE for me. Thanks, anyway.

Please, address the overheat BGA matrice's break issue of Snapdragon chipsets:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28552875&postcount=270
Which products and of which companies are free from this sort of crappiness?