Database Users

SMS Problems

oi,
i (and it seems like others as i´ve read in a german forum do as well) have serious problems with sending sms.
- some of them arrive twice
- some of them arrive in a "scrambled" way ...like mixed up with old ones
- and sometimes old ones are being sent a second time
this does not happen all the time - and it happens with several recipients.
i´m using a "naked" o2 trion. no other software (well, total commander and a media player) installed. it also happend back in the days when i used my t-mobile card with it.
this is really pissing me off ...because some of the recipients already think that a) their mobile is the prob. b) i´m nuts or an idiot who´s too stupid to send a simple text message
and help, hint, suggestion would be greatly appreciated.

I have the same Problem (sending SMS twice) ..
but I'm not sure if it's really a Problem based on the device, cause the double SMS are only billed once! (at least on my account)
And as I have been told only people using other Providers get my SMS twice..
never heard of any fellow T-Mobile User getting my SMS twice...
so it seems to be a combine Problem of HTC Devices (got that error since MDA1) and our Providers

did you force your network to gsm or umts?
or does it auto-switch depending on where you are located?

Sending twice happened to me when I disabled the 'message sent' warning and was closing the messages program before that warning would have appeared if it were active.
It was as though the machine sent the message quickly, but when the program got shut down too soon, was not sure it had done that and just sent it again.
Since re-enabling that warning and waiting each time for it I have had no more trouble.

marisa4755 said:
Sending twice happened to me when I disabled the 'message sent' warning and was closing the messages program before that warning would have appeared if it were active.
It was as though the machine sent the message quickly, but when the program got shut down too soon, was not sure it had done that and just sent it again.
Since re-enabling that warning and waiting each time for it I have had no more trouble.
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well I think this is exactly the point...
just keep the messaging software running and you won't have any problems

Sms sending 2 or 3 times
I'm not sure that above solution is true for all. I often get a specif notification saying message cannot be sent, but in fact it has been. Tendency is to send again and again still getting not sent message. Recipient ends up with several messages. I was given number of someone at HTC who seemingly can talk through a solution for this one. Don't have number to hand but will post later, nor have I spoken to them yet.

re my last post, I was given following info:
If you call HTC support Hot line they will talk you though how to resolve this..
The number is - 0845 8900079

Missing texts

Hi first post on here so hello. I have a HTC TYTN which is on the 3UK mobile network and i notice that i dont always recieve SMS messages and in fact a collegue of mine has the Orange version (unlocked with a 3 SIM) and also gets the same problem. I used to get this on a standard build TYTN and recently upgraded the Radio ROM to 1.35 and the OS to WM6 hoping that it was software related, but i still get missing texts. I just sent 10 texts from another 3UK mobile and only recieved 2...in fact when ever i have tested this you do seem to only get 2 out of the messages sent.
I also dont get delivery notifications, but not sure if this is related.
Any ideas? I would suspect that is most likely to do with 3's Network and as the phone is not officially support doubt anything will be done about it, but i thought i would just ask and see if anyone else has had this issue and had any suggestions...
Many thanks
Drew

Drewbie said:
Hi first post on here so hello. I have a HTC TYTN which is on the 3UK mobile network and i notice that i dont always recieve SMS messages and in fact a collegue of mine has the Orange version (unlocked with a 3 SIM) and also gets the same problem. I used to get this on a standard build TYTN and recently upgraded the Radio ROM to 1.35 and the OS to WM6 hoping that it was software related, but i still get missing texts. I just sent 10 texts from another 3UK mobile and only recieved 2...in fact when ever i have tested this you do seem to only get 2 out of the messages sent.
I also dont get delivery notifications, but not sure if this is related.
Any ideas? I would suspect that is most likely to do with 3's Network and as the phone is not officially support doubt anything will be done about it, but i thought i would just ask and see if anyone else has had this issue and had any suggestions...
Many thanks
Drew
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Welcome to the wonderful world of Tytn - A rewarding if sometimes frustrating experience
I've read about folks not receiving or being able to send SMS at all, I've read about folk missing texts if the device freezes while in sleep mode, but I have not read about only receiving a proportion of texts sent. Still maybe you'll get some posts to cofirm or otherwise whether it is the three network.
As regards notifications. Normally notifications will be set to on, but perhaps not in your case. The following is taken from the wiki see brown bar near top of this page. This refers to the registry and is the change necessary to turn notifications off (as many seem to want). In your case it would be a reversal of the settings:
Disable SMS received notification
The following setting disable SMS notification and sms recieved icon on screen
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\SMSAvailable = 0>
​To enable again
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\SMSAvailable = 1>
Cheers
Mike​

Hi Mike,
Cheers for your reply, but what i meant by delivery notifications is when i send a SMS to someone and i get a sms back saying it got delivered. I think to be honest this is all part of the same problem. I know someone who works within the 3 messaging team so might ask him to trace the SMSs for me and see what happens.
Cheers

Do you get a notification saying "message sent"?
I have heard of cases (not on 3) where texts have been sent, and then the messaging application closed before this notification appears, and then when the app is opened again, 2 identical texts are sent.
It seems that if the app is not left open for sufficient time after sending (ie before the 'message sent' notification appears), the device can get confused.
Having said that, on t-mob, texting to and from o2, over the past 6 months there have been 1 or 2 occasions when the text sent has not been received for about 3 hours!

Hi,
Yea i have had the odd instance where friends have recieved multiple texts also occasional get the SMS was not able to be sent message.
I don't seem to get delay in recieving texts just never get some. Interesting a friend bought a newer TYTN last week (mine is august/september last year) and he doesnt have the issue and we both have same ROM versions.
Did another test today and out of 10 only got 6. Very strange, it is starting to drive me crazy LOL. Even more so that other people i know have same issue (out of the 6 people i know who have Hermes phones 5 have the issue all on the 3 UK mobile network either TYTN or Orange one unlocked). The 5 of use did buy the phones all about the same time.
I can only assume there has been some very minor change in the hardware or firmware between the earlier Tytns and the later ones.
I have logged a call with HTC Tech support europe and he said never seen this before but he will pass it to the dev team to look at...so be interesting what they come back with.
Drew

HTC Magic (and HTC Dream) on Rogers - Text / SMS Timestamp issue?

Hi All,
Anyone on Rogers having issues with text message timestamps being off by a few hours?
I'm in Regina and any received SMS messages are two hours ahead of my local time. Changing from automatic network time to manual time has no effect.
It looks like text messages are being sent out with Toronto local time, no matter what the receiver's location is.
It appears that this is happening to a number of users, but Rogers support is useless - suggesting hard resets and returning the 'defective' device, which of course have no effect.
See: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2859
So anyone else that is having this problem, sound off - call tech support, reply to this and the above link, and hopefully Rogers will get this fixed sooner rather than later.

Hey Skawty, I'm in Regina too!! How you liking the phone? I just picked mine up on Wednesday and loving it. Anyways back to your point, I don't think it is possible to have a correct time on SMS, I haven't had any correct timestamps on any of my phones with Rogers, so we may be SOL on this part.

in edmonton here with the same issue. picked mine up today.
I don't know if the timestamps were off on my old krzr, they could have been and i would not have noticed. However with the threading by timestamp on this phone it really makes it annoying. There had better be a fix for this soon.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1305
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f10/sms-timestamp-incorrect-5067/
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2859
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1305
Looks like a lot of people complaining. I'd think they'll fix it soon.

this helps for now... kind of
http://androidforums.com/updates-cu...sms-issue-received-time-stamp-locked-est.html
WORKAROUND (sort-of) i’ve been using chompsms instead of the the messaging program, and it seems to thread everything correctly. chomp for whatever reason puts your time stamp on the same time zone as the received, so if you are replying to a received text with EST time stamp, chomp makes yours EST as well.
works for sending too… the initial msg you send will show your proper time, the reply will in est, then when you reply it will be in eastern, threading properly. rogers still needs to fix this though!

Hey, i imported the Tmobile G1 a couple months ago... i also noticed that the time was off on sms's. After i rooted, flashed a new rom and radio is was fixed. But now i am on the Hero rom and once again the time is off. So it seems that the it is not an issue with the radio, but maybe the build. I remeber i saw the right times wen i was on JF builds. I will try the Rogers rom again and also one of JFs roms again and let you know if the timestamp is fixed.

Beast11 said:
Hey, i imported the Tmobile G1 a couple months ago... i also noticed that the time was off on sms's. After i rooted, flashed a new rom and radio is was fixed. But now i am on the Hero rom and once again the time is off. So it seems that the it is not an issue with the radio, but maybe the build. I remeber i saw the right times wen i was on JF builds. I will try the Rogers rom again and also one of JFs roms again and let you know if the timestamp is fixed.
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Confirmed. I am using a t-mobile G1 with a Rogers Rom and live in EST. All my received texts are stamped with toronto time

I am running the rammjet rom built off the rogers and have the very same issue.
Though it seems sometimes if i have it open and am texting back and forth to the same person it will work properly.

Doesn’t matter what rom or software you are using on phone. This is a Rogers issue at the network level. They are the ones that stamp message.
They are aware of issue, but it seems very low on priorities to them. Guess they don’t understand sms is not just for teens to giggle these days. Its important for business and as far as I am concerned, a big deal
I have contacted them several times and get one of the two:
“No idea what you are talking about” << Love these replies from any service call
Or
“We are aware of the issue and are working on it” << No time frame given, so really as pointless as above
In any case. Don’t be running around looking for an in-phone fix because you haven’t done anything to mess with the time stamp. Doesn’t matter what you use for sms or what os you have on phone
Chomp helps by keeping things in order, but doesn’t fix timestamp. Rogers has to do this. Will they and when????? Who knows?

G1 Dream
I had the same problem with a Tmobile G1 Dream im not sure if they are exactly the same software but I fix the problem changing some of the APN settings give it a try
Good Luck

Good day, I recently purchased the HTC Touch Pro 2...great phone by the way. I also am experiencing sms message time stamp errors and I have tried everything...do you have any suggestions?

terrancextc said:
I had the same problem with a Tmobile G1 Dream im not sure if they are exactly the same software but I fix the problem changing some of the APN settings give it a try
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What settings did you change? I'd like to try this.

I know that it isnt a fix, but what i did was adjust the timezone to gmt -2(4 hour offset in regina) then manually entered a time, so now my messages are in the correct order. the only problem with this was that now all the events in my calendar where 4 hour out. so i went in and changed the timezone in my calendar to match the timezone on my phone, and moved all my events up 4 hours.
I know its not a fix, but until rogers does something about this it will work

There's an app on the market called SmsFixTimes that I wrote to help with this problem, until Rogers or HTC fixes the firmware. This is just a regular app, no hacks or anything else required. You should be aware, though, that it has only been tested by me so far, so it is at least possible that it could change the timestamps to something completely unexpected... you've been warned.
The app listens for incoming SMS messages and adjusts the timestamp to your phone's configured time zone automatically. The notification in the top bar is still wrong, but when you click on the message it will have the right time. If you run the app from the main app list, it will also go back and fix all of your saved messages (but only do that once! And maybe wait for an incoming message first, to see what happens!).
Since this is just a regular app, if you want it to stop you simply have to uninstall it from your phone. Comments and suggestions are welcome.

Hey natmanz, I've been checking on the Market since your post, and still no sign of SmsFixTimes. Is it just me, or has it not shown up yet?
[Edit: It finally showed up.]

Fix coming mid-august
I just spoke with a Rogers rep who told me that HTC are currently working on a patch that should be ready mid-August. Until then there's nothing that can be done aside from changing the time on your phone or using chompSMS as an alternative

Its fine for a while, up until you go past a few hundred messages in the thread. IE its me and my friend firing off during summer classes, and while its my solid wall of sent sms, and then his wall of sms, after a certain point it becomes 5 of mine, one of his, then none of mine for the next 50 in the thread. Annoying.
...Rogers. Bane of my existance. Bold works fine, iPhone works fine, maybe this is a sign that Rogers isn't giving enough of a ****? Because if it was a berry or iphone theyd be all over it. thank god bell/telus are going gsm, I can take my nice phones and business elsewhere, and fyi cant speak for telus but bells service on my omnia, rocks.

Text messages being sent to wrong people!!!

WTFF is this all about? This is a serious breach of privacy i have text messages being sent to other people now..I could deal with the 2G-3G issues and freezing but this now ...anyone having this problem?
How do i turn off sense U.I? will this fix all my problems?

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Turning off Sense will not solve your problem. This is the first I heard of this happening with the HD2. When the G1 came out, this was a major problem. Messages being sent to people - from your number -whom you never sent a message to or even know. It was a system problem that T-Mobile fixed.

happened to me to me as well - twice. I called in and asked about it and they (T-mo and HTC) said they "could not duplicate the problem." A common, yet unnerving refrain.

I heard one other person complain about this issue before and I am pretty sure (for this one particular issue) it's all user error.
I watched my girlfriend send out some texts on my phone and several times she did not "tab down" to the text entry field before putting information into the send to field. This caused people to be populated in the send to box that were not intended recipients.
Also on my phone sometimes when your in the middle of sending a text the cursor will jump to the box above whatever your working in. Again this can send messages to the wrong person.
You just need to be aware of who is in the send to field before sending a message.
Disclaimer: My findings could be a completely different issue than what's actually happening so take it with a grain of salt.

This is funny. I just received a text from someone I don't know.
It's like I miss the beginning of the conversation or something. Here's what I got only:
"Sorry I have not contacted you lately. My car crapped out and I have to divert any money towards another car. I hope to be able to contact you soon. I hope all is well with you. Rob (Danny's Friend)."
I'm like WHAT???? I guess he sent it to me by mistake or something.

So this has nothing to do with the device? Its a problem at T-mobiles end?

i'm pretty sure this is a software issue and not on tmobiles end. and no it's not due to user error i can assure you only b/c i use this phone for business and i absolutely make sure im sending it to the correct contact. Honestly it's just not acceptable for something like this to be happening. i just bought this phone this past weekend and from day 1 this problem has been occuring. the phone will send your text message to an entirely different contact already on your message home screen. it will then duplicate that contact's name into both message fields. i really like the hardware on this phone. if anybody out there knows of a fix please let me know before i return this beast.

This is not a software issue. It is being cause by T-Mobile. They are in the process of upgrading towers and things are getting FUBAR.

this just happened to me twice today....... its pretty scary because i thought it was my error but it clearly wasnt..... and of course the texts went to my ex.... of all people....smh

This happened to me yesterday. I was texting a friend of mine, then my girl texted me obviously every text I get starts a new thread. well I got off the thread and then got on the thread and replied to my gf and it went to the friend I was texting before. This happened another time where I was texting my sister and my girl texted me again..i replied to her and then it went to my sister..both if the people I was texting where on AT&T and me and my girl are on T-Mobile could this be a reason>?!

I'd just like to CONFIRM that this is a a GENUINE software problem, nothing to do with your network or user error etc.
Personally I first noticed this several months back, shortly after getting my HD2 - and at first naturally assumed that *I* had made a mistake replying to the wrong person - however after it happened a few more times and I started getting friends to watching out for any unexpected/unusual messages so I could check it, I proved it to be a genuine problem.
On at least 1 occasion when I got an early indication that it was happening I managed to actively run several tests to confirm that it was definitely getting 'confused' - so I can say without a shadow of a doubt that it was not down to user error of any kind.
WHEN DOES IT DO THIS?
Whilst I can't confirm if this is the 'only' circumstances under which the problem could occur, on each occassion that I managed to definitely confirm the problem, I had 'replied' to a recent message from a contact in 'Conversation Mode' (i.e. where all the messages are grouped under a contact). Also in each case I had been in the middle of texting conversations with 2 or more people. You need to be aware that the wrongly delivered message still actually shows up under the conversation thread for the *originally* intended recepient, but as you might expect the network confirmation message (if enabled) does confirm who really received it.
My gut feeling (especially as I was on a train the first time, with intermittent signal), was that it was queuing up outgoing messages as it was waiting for a signal, but when it regained a phone signal rather than properly cycling thru all the messages and sending them to the appropriate person, it just sent them all to the same one. [And certainly as an experienced software developer myself, that would seem a 'reasonable' explanation - but that's nothing more than a hunch].
A POSSIBLE QUICK WORKAROUND?
I haven't confirmed - tho that's not the same as saying it *definitely* doesn't happen - any instances of this problem since I've switched to only using the 'Traditional Mode' (i.e. standard Inbox/Outbox, not grouped by contact), and avoided sending a message to anyone until I've had a network confirmation of delivery from the previous message - but then again, as you might imagine I've been very cautious about using SMS messaging at all on this phone!
AM I JUST BEING CYNICAL?
I couldn't help noticing that I spotted this problem just shortly before HTC started releasing several - evidently very rushed - patches over a period of a few days to fix an 'SMS Issue', which most people said didn't seem to work, shortly before removing them and starting to issue updated ROMs. At the time the updates were accompanied by some very vague blurb along the lines of "keeping in touch with friends and family is very important to you, and this new update aims to deliver just that with fast & reliable messaging". And whilst numerous people commented on the vagueness of the statement, most assumed it was was related to the well publisized SMS issue at the time regarding messages getting stuck in the Outbox. Perhaps I'm just being cynical, but maybe that's wasn't the real reason behind the deliberate vagueness? Consider what it would do to the sales of your new flagship product if it was publicly exposed that your customers 'personal' & 'private' messages might wind up going to your neice...your boss...your ex...(well, you get the picture!)
Apologies for the long post, but I'm hoping this might some proper light on the problem for other people - if you have further 'proof', or can shed any light on the circumstance under which this problem occurs, please respond - but to avoid confusion & speed a resolution, could you please differentiate between what you have managed to 'prove' beyond reasonable doubt, and what you just simply 'suspect'...
Of course what I'd really like is for HTC to at least confirm the problem has been *properly* fixed
Finally, FYI, my HD2 specs are:
Network:T-Mobile (UK)
ROM Ver: 1.48.405.2 (71294) WWE
Radio Ver: 2.05.51.05_2
(...and yes, I know this ROM can be updated now - I've just been working away the last few months and didn't want to take any risks by updating it - but hey, until the problem is acknowledged by HTC, how can we be sure it's fixed anyway?)

This has happened to me quite a few times while using this phone. Mine all seem to inadvertently go to one specific person if they don't go to their intended recipient. I don't know this person very well so it has been very awkward. Sometimes the intended recipient receives it as well, sometimes they don't. I have been very conscious of who is in the send to field of late but there seems to be no indication of a problem before the message is sent. I haven't seen a reasonable fix for this yet but I am hoping that this issue gets some scrutiny.
I am running NRG's July 17th GTX ROM BTW.

Just curious, which form of HTC Messenger is everyone using? I never had this problem until today. Yesterday I upgraded my Elegancia ROM which includes version 1.5 build 2015.3428. I'm going to switch over to SPB Shell and see if I can replicate, but perhaps it's this version from HTC...

I always thought this was user error until it started happening to me. What I did to fix it was delete all my contacts off my SIM and just use them from my phone. That fixed the problem right away.

This is interesting because it's NEVER happened to me, but all of my contacts are saved on my phone and synced through Microsoft exchange. This could be the fix for everyone.

dkb218 said:
This is not a software issue. It is being cause by T-Mobile. They are in the process of upgrading towers and things are getting FUBAR.
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I can verify that!

Ya, this happened to me too when I first got my HD2. It is quite awkward when it happens But I did do some research online about it happening to others (this was before I was here on XDA) and saw that someone said one thing that seems to fix it is copy all the contacts to your phone and delete them off your SIM card, just as TIGGAH said. Seems to work very well and I haven't noticed it happening since I started doing it.

[Q] SMS Message not sent problems?

I've got an intermittent problem sending SMS messages, and wondered if anybody else has the same issue?
Sometimes when I send an SMS message, I get a "Message not sent" notification, and the little black/red icon showing that the message didn't go. If I press and hold the message to get the "message Details", then the error is "Unknown, 254". If I press and hold and select to resend the message then 9 times out of 10 it will be sent successfully.
One of the even more annoying features of this problem is that sometimes, even though it says "Message not sent", the recipient will have received the message (but not every time). So when I resend, it's possible that they will end up receiving two copies of the same message.
I've tried Handcent, and that made no difference, and been in contact with my carrier (T-Mobile UK) and they found no issues in the area but I've had my SIM replaced as a precaution, which made no difference. I got as far as sending my phone in to Motorola for repair, but as it was previously rooted, it got rejected for an in-warranty repair. However, when I sent my phone for repair, I purchased another Milestone 2, and this suffers from exactly the same problem - so it's obviously either a problem with the phone model, or the network near my home (although, I've never had problems before getting the MS2, about a year ago).
Using an app called "GSM Signal Monitoring Test" I've noticed a couple of things - firstly my MS2 seems to switch cell quite a bit. There's a cell which seems to be the most popular for me at my home, but every few minutes or so, it will switch to another cell (one of a couple of options) and then, pretty quickly (under a minute) switch back again. I don't know whether this is normal or expected behaviour.
So far, every time I've had a failed message, when I look at the cell data, it looks like there may have been a cell switch around the time of the failure.
Does anybody else have problems like this, and are there any solutions?
Cheers,
Steve.

same issue here, I was thinking the fault was TIM Brasil, but now I'm not alone.
Thanks for sharing!

AdrienC said:
same issue here, I was thinking the fault was TIM Brasil, but now I'm not alone.
Thanks for sharing!
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Same carrier, same problem...
Tim Infinity Pré plan...
Sent from my Milestone 2 XDA App

I'm finding the same problem myself Steve, although it seems to be more of an issue when I'm either due to receive a message or data packet that it seems to jam. Only happens once a day though if at all so hasn't proved too much of a problem. I'm UK based on Orange.

Gogz_ said:
I'm finding the same problem myself Steve, although it seems to be more of an issue when I'm either due to receive a message or data packet that it seems to jam. Only happens once a day though if at all so hasn't proved too much of a problem. I'm UK based on Orange.
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Orange and T-Mobile are pretty much the same now, aren't they? I'd be interested in seeing whether you see that same cell-switch when the message fails to send.
Let's hope this has been addressed in the Gingerbread update...