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At the top were you see signal strength I nebver seem to have 3G enabled and internet seems to be slugish I sometimes have the Letters G,H,U I don't know what these mean is there a way I can have 3G all the time?
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as far as i know h and u stand for 3g not sure tho
djteotancolis said:
as far as i know h and u stand for 3g not sure tho
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I don't think it does its so slow. I want to know how to enable 3G permanently.
were you getting faster 3g on other phones? and i think there is a cab but u may have to search for that
As far as I know (In my area) H is for HSDPA, which is an enhanced form of 3G. So it seems that you are getting 3G data... While G stands for GPRS, which is 2G.
No idea what the U would stand for though.
Also, if you have 3G enabled to auto-connect (I presume it is, if it's switching between the connections,) then your phone should just pick up a 3G signal whenever it can find it. If 3G is patchy in your area, you won't be able to get it all the time.
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As far as I know (In my area) H is for HSDPA, which is an enhanced form of 3G. So it seems that you are getting 3G data... While G stands for GPRS, which is 2G.
No idea what the U would stand for though.
Also, if you have 3G enabled to auto-connect (I presume it is, if it's switching between the connections,) then your phone should just pick up a 3G signal whenever it can find it. If 3G is patchy in your area, you won't be able to get it all the time.
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Right I see when I'm on HSDPA it is still very sluggish until I seem to hit 3G and its like wi-fi, so my 3G is already connected just needs a place with good signal when I'm on way to college on the bus I seem so find a good area with 3G. Thanks for your help.
H = 3G
G = 1G (G is much much slower than E=Edge=2G)
If you want to have 3G only enabled go to Settings>Wireless Controlls>Phone>Band>WCDMA (Note that if you're in an area with no 3g, you will have zero signal and the phone will not switch to edge or gprs).
In the right order:
G=1G: 'Global System for Mobile communication', or GSM, basic mobile network.. can be used only for SMS and Phone calls
E=2G: EDGE (or 'Enhanced Data Rates for GSM Evolution'), basicly GSM and GPRS (data transfer) combines..it allowes for speeds over the mobile network up to 9 600 bit/s
U=3G: 'Universal Mobile Telecommunications System', or 'UMTS' up to 2 Mbit/s data transfer on stationary devices and up to 384 kbit/s on mobile devices. About 40 times faster than GSM. This enables you to transfer data, such as images and be able to transfer data during a phonecall.. like sending a MMS or using Video Calls.
H=3G: 'High Speed Downlink Packet Access', or HSDPA, it allows for speeds up to 14,4 Mb/s though it is normally (at least in scandinavia) offered commercially in lower speeds, up to 7,2 Mb/s
Note: Because the most operators use high frequency to transmit '3G' signals, wich can cause your signal to be lower if you're inside (house or whatever, not outside), some operators though, transmit on a lower frequency, though then it's called CMDA, wich is also a form of '3G'
Had the same problem with a Telstra HD2 on Optus. Here's what you need to do. Settings -> Wireless controls -> phone -> Band -> Select auto for both. That should do it.
Ok so I have been messing around with the evo and doing a new rom for the whole cricket thing.
One thing i have noticed while doing this is that the EVO DOES NOT drop down to 1x at all. So i decided to write a 1x PRL to the phone. The phone reports that it is ON 3G network. This is not possible and I think that is wrong. Sprint has the phone reporting that it is 3G even though its on a 1x network.
If his has been discussed please let me know thanks.
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Ok so I have been messing around with the evo and doing a new rom for the whole cricket thing.
One thing i have noticed while doing this is that the EVO DOES NOT drop down to 1x at all. So i decided to write a 1x PRL to the phone. The phone reports that it is ON 3G network. This is not possible and I think that is wrong. Sprint has the phone reporting that it is 3G even though its on a 1x network.
If his has been discussed please let me know thanks.
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Sorry to deviate from your original message but is there a way to force 1x? I'm assuming 1x uses less energy than EVDO/3G; so if true, it would be beneficial to switch to 1x when idling/display is off. Maybe tasker or juice defender already does this?
Edit: On CM6 I hit 1x from time to time. At least the status bar reports it as 1x. Could be a Sense/HTC bug.
Edit 2: It seems that Android doesn't have a API for 3G/2G toggling. Sucks.
No your fine, Yes CM does go to 1x. This isnt based off a sprint rom. Its not a HTC Sense issue because I had ported a incredible rom a while back to the phone and it would drop to 1x. I just tried a new port for 2.2 from the incredible and its doing the same thing.
It is possbile that it could be a HTC Sense Bug in the 2.2 Froyo. But i really think that Verizon and Sprint are not wanting it to drop to 1x. Wich i think is wrong.
The way i forced it was to load a 1x PRL on the phone.
I'm connected as 3G "False" as i checked the speed now and I only got 39.62kb wich is far from the 1565.1kbs i checked before switching PRL.
Maybe you already knew this, but I'm pretty sure that for a 1xRTT network the 3G icon in stock htc sense roms simply greys out. At least that's what I remember seeing in the manual. When the phone is connected to 3G the icon turns white.
I don't know - I'm almost positive that I've seen a 1x symbol in my status bar instead of 3g a few times. It's been a while though...
Well from what i see thats not true.
Im on 1xRTT right now. The icon is a solid white.
Even if that was the case and it should grey out. That is completely deceiving. It should accurtly show it is on the 1x network.
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Well from what i see thats not true.
Im on 1xRTT right now. The icon is a solid white.
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sorry - who was this to? Also, I know there's a 1x symbol in the framework - it's got to be there for a reason, right?
OK I just checked the manual and it has a 1X icon. You're right.
Edit: The com.htc.resources.apk where sense signal icons are located contains the images for 1X so maybe it's something in the xml's that prevents the phone from either correctly notifying a 1X signal or bypassing the connection all together. HTC obviously intended for the phone to connect to 1X if they took the time to sensify the images. Strange.
Yes HTC intended for it but thats not the case. Has anyone on sprint successfully dropped to a 1x Connection ? Here is what I notice if im not forcing a 1x connection.
If it looses a 3G connection, it does not successfully drop to 1x. It just looses 3G all together then tries multiple times to go to 3G if it doesn't succeed you loose internet.
If you have a 1x prl it loads 1x but shows its a 3G connection wich is not true at all. This is disappointing.
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Yes HTC intended for it but thats not the case. Has anyone on sprint successfully dropped to a 1x Connection ?
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ummm...yeah - like I said in my prev post, I've seen the 1x icon appear on my phone in parts of nj where I wasn't picking up 3g.
What ROM are you using ?
OK Im going to grab my friends Evo tonight that is on a sprint a force a 1x connection and see if his shows accurately or not.
I assume your custom PRL is forcing a 1X connection on sprint towers and not verizon or something? The phone may only show a drop to 1X if on sprint's network. If you are on verizon or cricket or something it probably wont indicate 1X.
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What ROM are you using ?
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I was either using stock, or an older version of baked snack.
Its not a custom PRL the one im using is a cricket prl. Made only for 1x network. It does not support EVDO.
Sprint has a few 1x PRL's only and I will load his phone with it and test it.
That doesn't make sense. The phone being on cricket or any other service would not make the phone report its on 3G all time. I flash a lot of phones to cricket. Like i said before this is a Sprint Rom issue. I loaded it with a incredible ROM and it successfully drops to 1x connection.
fachadick,
You might have been using baked snack rom.
Im checking tonight with the service on sprint.
So far its confirmed.
Two people with HTC EVO's on sprint.
One (Me) on with evo on cricket.
We forced all three EVOs to work on 1x connection only. All three of them are showing 3G icon but are only getting 1x speeds. This is very deceiving.
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Its not a custom PRL the one im using is a cricket prl. Made only for 1x network. It does not support EVDO.
Sprint has a few 1x PRL's only and I will load his phone with it and test it.
That doesn't make sense. The phone being on cricket or any other service would not make the phone report its on 3G all time. I flash a lot of phones to cricket. Like i said before this is a Sprint Rom issue. I loaded it with a incredible ROM and it successfully drops to 1x connection.
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The reason I say it might not work on a PRL from another carrier is because when I am roaming I get a triangle above my reception, but the data icon remains 3G if I remember correctly. The actual data connection is only 1X because of roaming agreements, so what I am theorizing here is that the phone only changes to 1X when you are on an authentic sprint network and the connection drops to 1X. This is probably built into the rom, which is why it works for other phones, but not the EVO.
Because you are using a "roaming" PRL, I would think that the phone doesn't trigger the change to 1X icon just like actual roaming with a Sprint PRL. That's my hunch.
Yes i understand what you are saying, and yes that is plausible.
But doesn't explain why when we force the sprint ones they do not change to 1x ? I can force any other phone to 1x on the sprint network.
HI all!
Right now I am using [Build][10.12.2010][NexusHD2-FRG83D V1.8 PPP+RMNET][Kernel: hastarin r8.5.3_oldcam] and that is quite ok for me.
However I havent found anywhere on that build an option to disable HDSPA speed.
What I would like is accept 3G but disable HSPDA. Now I only have a change to disable 3G totally and only get 2G. Basicly area where I live is keeping me a situation that phone is very often trying to connect HSPDA but then changes is 3G speed. It causes me time&battery drain.
I have found a solution to force phone only use 3G but that is what I wanted. 2G and 3G are ok but I want to disable HSPDA.
Anybody could help me?
Up, Up... anybody have same kind of need?
i also need same help regarding this, reason is my data plan only use 3g (umts) and not 3.5g (hsdpa)... but my android always switch 3g to hsdpa back and forth and drain battery much faster
is there any tweak/program/widget/application that can enable 3g (umts) only?
windows doenst have this problem cause in winmo i can switch the option easily (enable/disable hspa)... but android dont have this kind of thing
I have the same problem. I don't even have HSPDA where I live, yet it tries to connect, fails, and then connects to 3G. It's a very time consuming processor to wait for the phone to do this when I am just trying to load a website.
Yes.. maybe it will not drain much memory but.. who wouldn't want a fast internet..
Afaik Hsdpa uses the same radio towers (or whatever the name is) as Umts... just different software. so there should be no battery drain caused by this.
This mite help you
1. Go to your dialer
2. Dial *#*#INFO#*#*
3. Click 'Phone information'
4. Scroll down to the first dropdown selection and set according to your preference below...
For simplicity, there are two main types of cell carriers, GSM and CDMA.
The following popular data communication technology is associated with each cell carrier type:
GSM = GPRS (2g), EDGE(2g), UMTS(3g), WCDMA(3g), HSDPA(3g) {Cell Carrier examples: AT&T and T-Mobile}
CDMA = CDMA*(2/3g) EV-DO(3g) WiMax(3/4g) {Cell Carrier examples: Verizon and Sprint}
Now that the general stuff is out of the way, here's my take on the Preferred Network types:
WCDMA preferred - The GSM phone is capable of using both 2G and 3G data communication and when signal strength is low 3G is favored more.
GSM only - The GSM phone is capable of using only 2G data communication. When the 2G signal is too low you get nothing at all.
WCDMA only - The GSM phone is capable of using only 3G data communication. When the 3G signal is too low you get nothing at all.
GSM auto (PRL) - The GSM phone is capable of using both 2G and 3G data communication and when signal strength is low 2G is favored more. This one is a bit confusing to me since PRL is associated mostly with CDMA technology and not GSM technology.
CDMA auto (PRL) - The CDMA phone is capable of using both 2G and 3G data communication and when signal strength is low 2G is favored more.
CDMA only - The CDMA phone is capable of using only 2G data communication. When the 2G signal is too low you get nothing at all.
EvDo only - The CDMA phone is capable of using only 3G data communication. When the 3G signal is too low you get nothing at all.
GSM/CDMA auto (PRL) - Some phones are equipped with both GSM and CDMA capabilities. This setting appears to just have the phone attempt to stay connected to the data communication type that works the best. (Maybe the Samsung Galaxy S will take advantage of this???)
Unknown - If none of the above fit or the phone is acting weird as far as connecting to the carrier, you will see your preferred network type is set to this
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Source http://www.google.ie/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=6a327a95211ac789&hl=en
domenukk said:
Afaik Hsdpa uses the same radio towers (or whatever the name is) as Umts... just different software. so there should be no battery drain caused by this.
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uhh... maybe you dont catch what us mean....
when umts change to hspda (icon change from 3g to H) then it use battery power.. in my case i use 3g (umts and not 3.5g or hspda )data plan only... but android keep searching hspda signal and THIS is when battery used the most (the process) and EVEN when my area have 3.5g covered but because i use 3g only data plan... then the back and forth process (3g<->H) will kep coming and rdrain my battery fast
so... we look for any kind of workaround so our android keep stay in 3g (umts) and not drain any unnecessary battery power searching for hspda
btw sorry for my english
agarp said:
This mite help you
1. Go to your dialer
2. Dial *#*#INFO#*#*
3. Click 'Phone information'
4. Scroll down to the first dropdown selection and set according to your preference below...
Source http://www.google.ie/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=6a327a95211ac789&hl=en
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i use this thing before and no luck
i use "wcdma only" as the option and android still process 3g and 3.5 back and forth, maybe android "thinks" 3g/umts and 3.5/hspda as the same?? android categorize umts and hspda as one big fat 3G network
i wonder why newer os like android doesnt have this kind of feature in winmo there is an option :
disable hspa = so hspda disabled.. AKA 2G or UMTS only
enable hspa = enabled hspda, hspa, hsupa etc.. AKA 2G, UMTS and HSPDA
try this settings
CDMA auto (PRL) - The CDMA phone is capable of using both 2G and 3G data communication and when signal strength is low 2G is favored more.
agarp said:
try this settings
CDMA auto (PRL) - The CDMA phone is capable of using both 2G and 3G data communication and when signal strength is low 2G is favored more.
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isnt cdma auto (prl) used exclusively for cdma phones? (those phones with evdo and wimax thing) and not used for our hd2 (GSM)???
C'mon how this is impossible with newer phone software??
This feature has been in WinMo and Symbian in many years!!
It is really frustrating that almost every time my phone is trying to make HSPDA connect and then decide 3G is enough and possible. It causes some delay and sometimes also timed out errors.
agreed
my android keep going back and forth between umts 3G and hspda 3.5G like some clueless kid while 2 experienced guy (symbian & winmo) laugh at him
i know this is a old topic
i have still this issue
my phone is switching to hsdpa an back to 3g after a few seconds
when the phone is connected to my slow wifi connection everything works fine and i can use it for 3 day's
when it is connected to hsdpa my battery is empty after 15 hours and the voip connection is not working properly (i need to start a ping to some server first to keep the connection alive so i can call with voip)
I just came upon this thread, but I don't have this problem, so I can't really test it out this theory. But my thought was, what if you just went into the build.prop file and edited the ro.ril.hsxpa.category settting from ro.ril.hsxpa.category=2 to ro.ril.hsxpa.category=0. I just tested it out and it never jumped from 3g to H. My only concern is that you wouln't get the fastest speed you could be getting. Test it out and let me know though.
at this moment it is not posible to root my phone (SE Xperia pro with latest firmware)
so i am afraid we need to wait to test this
but thanks for the hint
Im coming from a couple HD2's and Vibrants and from my understanding, HSDPA is only 3.5G. Well, I only see HSDPA connection on my phone, and not a HSPA+ signal.
So am I even getting 4G?
You wont really see anything different to distinguish between the 2 besides running a speed test, Im on cm7 so I either see an "H" which is hsdpa or hspa+ but only a speed test over 3.5 will let me know for sure if I'm on the Hspa+ then theres the 3g icon which is usually umts but can be hspa, like I said just use the speed test ap thats the only way I ever know
also the highest Ive ever seen my 4G in los angeles is like 7.5mb on the normal it hovers around 4mb which never leaves me quite positive im on hspa+ because my wifes 3g Nexus S usually pulls down around 3.8
are you using T-Mobile or simple. I am having an issue as well but the plus sign is a huge difference.
i dont even know if you will ever see the HSDPA+! the way to check is go to settings>about phone>network> now here is where it gets tricky. where is says Mobile network type: it will tell you when you are on GPRS and EDGE! when my phone is on 3G is says UMTS, when it is in 4G, is says HSDPA. this is based on me doing speed tests while phone was on said network types. also i use a widget called "mobile signal widget". as you know the status bar never tells you the difference if you are on 3G or 4G, but the widget does! when the widget says 3G on it, when i flip to settings it says UMTS. when the widget says H on it, when i flip to the settings and it says HSDPA.
So I just registered for the T-Mobile UK/Orange network sharing, and I'm all registered
I've enabled data roaming, however under "Network Operators" I have an option for "T-Mobile" and one for "T-Mobile Orange"
Which one should I choose?
Got a feeling i posted in the wrong section but anyway yeah, whats everyone else on TMo doing?
Just leaving it on automatically detect?
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Leave it on auto.
It'll default to T-Mobile and only use T-Mobile/Orange when you have no signal on T-Mobile itself.
When roaming onto T-Mobile/Orange, you'll only get Edge speeds maximum as opposed to the speeds you can get on T-Mobile's 3G network.
Some time later this year, they're supposed to be merging the 3G networks together as well but until then, it's 2/2.5G only.
Teampokerface
Keep it on auto.
good info, cheers
At first I thought this would be useful, but I find its more annoying than anything. Mine hogs orange, which is pain. Everytime I load up the internet its connected to orange, I do a network scan t-mobile appears and I have a full HSPDA signal and yet it favours oranges Edge or G with unuseable data speeds. every friggin time!!!!!!!
It should only switch to the T-Mobile/Orange network when you don't have coverage on T-Mobile's own network.
It might be an issue with how your handset is set up that it's defaulting to T-Mobile/Orange.
If need be, you can actually opt out of the signal share by texting STOP to 2121.
o right, ok thanks I may consider doing that then as there isnt many places I dip out of signal for long on t-mobile anyway. Having to constantly go through settings to change it back to t-mobile is very annoying.