acer s200 vs HD2 - HD2 General

Few questions about VIdeo playback:
Has anyone worked out why the Acer s200 outperforms the hd2 by a decent margin on video playback yet? (coprelayer)
Has anyone tested AC3 movies with TCMP yet?
I'm just interested, not planning to get the S2oo as having XDA Devs around is reason enough to get the HD2 over the Acer

stoolzo said:
Few questions about VIdeo playback:
Has anyone worked out why the Acer s200 outperforms the hd2 by a decent margin on video playback yet? (coprelayer)
Has anyone tested AC3 movies with TCMP yet?
I'm just interested, not planning to get the S2oo as having XDA Devs around is reason enough to get the HD2 over the Acer
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Sorry mate what's TCMP ?

Sorry I meant TCPMP (old version of coreplayer with AC3 support)

nobody tried TCPMP?

TCPMP 0.72RC1 with SRT subtitles plug-in works just fine but the newest 0.81 version doesnt work

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Playing divx on this phone

I'm loving this phone, but I'm struggling with one thing; I can't find a way to play "normal" divx (avi) files with i.e. CorePlayer (1.2.6), on a normal quality. It just skips a few frames now and then.
Is this just me (am I missing a X1 specific option), or are we waiting for some driver magic from the guys at Coreplayer?
use the standalone divxplayer
That plays even slower than Coreplayer
I also found the offical divx player has terrible sound quality as well as its poor framerate.
I am puzzled at the people who claim the X1 plays DivX fine. To me, anything less than 24fps is far from fine and it seems to struggle to handle 15fps.
Alex Atkin UK said:
I also found the offical divx player has terrible sound quality as well as its poor framerate.
I am puzzled at the people who claim the X1 plays DivX fine. To me, anything less than 24fps is far from fine and it seems to struggle to handle 15fps.
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ive got the x1i and coreplayer 1.2.5 and it plays all divx perfectly, nothing skipped and nothing bad , maybe you guys installed something memoryhungry?
other members states that KinomaPlayer is the best player, who knows, try it to rate it, i don't know how good it is since the coreplayer is working great.
the coreplayer 1.3.0 is out, but dont know the news in it though
smaberg said:
ive got the x1i and coreplayer 1.2.5 and it plays all divx perfectly, nothing skipped and nothing bad , maybe you guys installed something memoryhungry?
other members states that KinomaPlayer is the best player, who knows, try it to rate it, i don't know how good it is since the coreplayer is working great.
the coreplayer 1.3.0 is out, but dont know the news in it though
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Coreplayer 1.3.0 doesn't perform much better than 1.2.5 on x1 I can play easly play mp4 movies 400x240 800 constant bitrate at 25fps without dropped frames, DivX movies 320x240 32x240, but the quality of mp4 is much better...
Up till now i could play the DivX 640x480 without any problems only on samung i780 and Dell x51v (720x...)

The Thread to End All Threads (hopefully)

Right guys...I don't know about you but I'm still having Video playback problems.
Frankly, Coreplayer is shocking. Yes it plays FLV which Album or WMP don't but the fact it has no h/ware acceleration on an HD player is a tad stupid.
This thread should be populated with people's own experiences as to what format, player, and encoding should be used to get the best results. I know there is already a thready about Super(c) converting, but again, this says to encode to FLV which you still have to risk in Coreplayer!
Anyone got any comments - I just want a decent player or a way of my HD vids playing half decent on the unit!
Cheers guys
in my humble opinion, this thread offers the best solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
Use the encoder mentioned there, so you dont have to struggle around with eright super.
And then u can play the movie with HTCs built-in movie player. Ok, the player is everything but comfortable. But the TCPMP is pain-in-the-ass, too.
greets

Video playback, AC3, ROMS

Hi, does anyone know which ROM is currently best for video playback?. I am currently using davi-duck v5 rom with TCMP onboard which also has the ac3 playback plugin but as this is an early version of COREPLAYER the playback is fairly poor for all my dvd rips. COREPLAYER playback is better but doesnt support the AC3 codec, I wonder if someone can port the AC3 plugin for TCMP to COREPLAYER as it doesnt look like they are going to.
I also wonder what playback will be like when we get android working on the HD, coreplayer are due to release a working model for android soon, or will the G1 have the same driver issues as the HD (being the same HTC hardware)
[email protected] i purchased Coreplayer and it is great for re-encoded video, however is i plan to do that i may as well reencode for winmo player as it has hardware acc?
WMP, MP4, hardware acceleration= near perfection!
Your thread is unclear and probably not appropriate for ROM Development section.
mp4
Like most people i do not want to re-encode all my vidoes to mp4 if we can get decent performance another way.
I understand your frustration
Yeah right!
Yeah i bought my Coreplayer on the Mininova website
Very bad
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Yeah i bought my Coreplayer on the Mininova website
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If people like you don't like to purchase a relatively cheap piece of software and insist on warez then how on earth will they ever want to or have the resource to develop it properly and include make all the correct optimisations.
This is the wrong forum for comments like that - if a MOD sees it your lucky if you dont get banned.
Go buy a licence it is dirt cheap the people at CoreCodec deserve it!

I have found the best video player for the HTC HD2

After searching for the best video player for the HD2, including trying CorePlayer (latest version) and the Smart Movie 4.0, I have finally come to the conclusion that the Mobile Window Media that comes with the HD2 is the best player.
Here are the reasons why.
1. Core Player cannot play the movie Transformers 2 that comes with the HD2 smoothly while the Mobile Window Media player can play it very smoothly.
2. Instead of paying for Core Player, use the money and buy the ImTOO MPEG encoder ultimate and convert the .VOB file in the DVD disc of your favorite movie and convert it to H.264/MPEG-4 video (*.mp4) with 800 x 480 resolution and 1500 bit rate and you will get a movie that is just like the Transformer movies that comes with the HTC HD2.
Hey mate,
Just FYI the Mobile Window Media player embedded uses hardware support for video playback. The Coreplayer has yet to do this so invariably it will suffer as a result..
Fantastic guide though...Thnx..
Don't forget an xda developer -projection has also posted a HTC HD encoder.
Not sure which of the two is better but still nice to know..
You can also use Handbrake (freeware) to convert directly from DVD to MP4 (m4v).
wineds said:
You can also use Handbrake (freeware) to convert directly from DVD to MP4 (m4v).
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you gotta a link for that buddy?
shimmer401 said:
you gotta a link for that buddy?
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I have the link for you, buddy: http://tinyurl.com/22vk95r
wineds said:
You can also use Handbrake (freeware) to convert directly from DVD to MP4 (m4v).
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hi bro,
can you share the handbrake settings that you are using for HD2?
Thanks!
Earthbrain said:
2. Instead of paying for Core Player, use the money and buy the ImTOO MPEG encoder ultimate and convert the .VOB file in the DVD disc of your favorite movie and convert it to H.264/MPEG-4 video (*.mp4) with 800 x 480 resolution and 1500 bit rate and you will get a movie that is just like the Transformer movies that comes with the HTC HD2.
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I agree...
Using the HTC encoder from these forums today took too long and the quality was sub-par. With this program you can choose the bit-rate and the quality is sensational..
++++1 to OP
Kudos mate
I really dislike re-coding my media library in advance of wanting to watch something on the go, and I find CorePlayer handles well with almost an XVID/Divx I drop it's way, at a very acceptable quality level.
It's my two biggest gripes with this machine:
1) Windows Media Player has such limited codec support.
2) HTC won't pay Qualcomm to allow other companies access to the drivers (I think that's the reason anyway).
Either way, it nearl put me off the HD2, until I felt reassured the 1GHz Snapdragon could make up for the lack of native support.
I used that encoder year's back for my Sony Ericcson, but again I'm not prepared to put that work in (not out of laziness, I just want to be ready to go at a moment's notice and not have to factor in half-an-hour per video - nor do I want to re-encode all of my thousands of media files )
Earthbrain said:
After searching for the best video player for the HD2, including trying CorePlayer (latest version) and the Smart Movie 4.0, I have finally come to the conclusion that the Mobile Window Media that comes with the HD2 is the best player.
Here are the reasons why.
1. Core Player cannot play the movie Transformers 2 that comes with the HD2 smoothly while the Mobile Window Media player can play it very smoothly.
2. Instead of paying for Core Player, use the money and buy the ImTOO MPEG encoder ultimate and convert the .VOB file in the DVD disc of your favorite movie and convert it to H.264/MPEG-4 video (*.mp4) with 800 x 480 resolution and 1500 bit rate and you will get a movie that is just like the Transformer movies that comes with the HTC HD2.
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what you got Transformers 2 with your HD2? what the Duck!!!
hahaha
I think that there is a big flaw in windows media player: it doesn't rememeber the position of the film. That means that if you close it the position is lost. I typically look the films in small parts, as logical in a mobile device. There is a plugin to solve this but it doesn't work.
This is not a problem in core player, but core player is a lot slower.
i use a divx player on my HD2 for all my movies - they play great.
Mike
ruffruff said:
hi bro,
can you share the handbrake settings that you are using for HD2?
Thanks!
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I just use the iPhone/Ipod Touch preset. I think you can configure it for any output resolution you want though. The other great thing about Handbrake is that it can burn subtitles onto the video
hi
any body can send me link to download coreplayer for htc hd2 and divx player
Guys,
Try this out and let me know what you think about the video quality. I think it looks pretty damn good. This is the official DivX player - v0.94 (Released early 2010). The interface is very minimal but it definitely seems to be better than CorePlayer so far.
Please throw some quality high-res videos (800x480 and beyond) at it and post back.
If you guys can, it would be a good idea to throw in a few tests with Chainfire's D3D & OpenGL ES drivers.
If only WMP's "scale to fit" didn't cut off part of the video (we're talking resolutions that are LESS than 800x480).
That and the ridiculous audio lag on the HD2. I can't believe people can stand watching Transformers with that delay. Even from the very beginning where a fishing buoy is dropped into the water (and the splash is heard well after the impact, lol) all the mouths move well in advance of the words coming out.
It's preposterous. I'm holding out on the hope that Linux (accelerated) will eventually be the solution, in which case mplayer would be the "Best video player on the HD2" hands down.
thanks
thank you very much , any luck on team viewer for windows mobile version
any new software available for htc hd2
moreover, can i get advice that, whether video out is available on htc hd2
Confirmed!
This (DivX for WinMo v0.94) is MUCH better than CorePlayer. The video is very smooth, except for some very occasional freezing of the frames which is barely noticeable. I observed that only once though.
There is absolutely NO Audio lag. All my videos played fine except for one, but in this case, the audio played before the video randomly in some areas of the timeline.
I'm starting to wonder if this might be hardware accelerated.
@nagagaya: HD2 does not support TV-Out.
Woah, what a shock. I'll have to try this. I wonder when it was released, and for what devices...
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Woah, what a shock. I'll have to try this. I wonder when it was released, and for what devices...
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Going by the file date from within the cab, the release is as recent as 25-MAY-10!
Interesting... I tried it with three HQ DivX files, and they all stuttered and were jerky, compared to playing fine in TCMCP.
Ignoring playback, my general thoughts are:
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I love the Video Browser - always wanted one of these (and would LOVE one as a Sense tab)
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I wish the "Fullscreen" buttons etc were bigger.

Native divx playback?

Can anyone confirm whether the DHD offers native divx / avi playback it does this require third party software such as rockplayer or mplayer?
It requires software codecs to play those file types
Sent from my CyanogenMod Desire HD
No great sweat. Rock player works well on the Desire so can only assume it will be excellent on the dhd!
I dropped few divx on mine without any third party software and it plays it and good too
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I dropped few divx on mine without any third party software and it plays it and good too
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Interesting to hear, thanks. I didn't think it supported such formats out of the box.
dont waste your time with rockplayer, it loses sync all the time now and the dev wont trasferre your licence when you change phones.
im currently using vplayer alpha - it free and tbh excellent app. ive not noticed any sync problems since loading it, and it handles 720p with no problems.
give it a try
Just to confirm that DivX/Xvid plays natively, however, I tried a high bit rate video and it lagged beyond belief. I suggest you try Rockplayer or Vplayer, both are very capable.... whatever happened to Core Player for Android!
Regards.
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Just to confirm that DivX/Xvid plays natively, however, I tried a high bit rate video and it lagged beyond belief. I suggest you try Rockplayer or Vplayer both are very capable.... whatever happened to Core Player for Android!
Regards.
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I agree, just tried the native player and I can feel the lagginess and the framerate is slow... Rockplayer played the same video smoothly...
I tried to play a 1,5 GB Xvid with the stock player, which wasn't a big success, then installed the free rockplayer from the market, which worked fine, excellent playback and the screensize makes it very watchable (gotta use earplugs though)
Playing 720p Flv videos with HTC Desire HD
Hi all! My main use of a smartphone is to play 720p Videos on the go. I've tried all of the last giants (Htc Desire, Sony X10, Hd2 with Android roms...) using native videos player,Rockplayer,Alphaplayer but my 720p flv videos did not play smoothly.Now I have a Samsung Vibrant, so far so good! All of my videos play with no issues.
My question is: does the Desire HD capable of playing 720p videos in flv format smoothkly (Ps:I'd like to buy it for the bigger screen and 8Mpxls)?
Thanks
edsontzr said:
Hi all! My main use of a smartphone is to play 720p Videos on the go. I've tried all of the last giants (Htc Desire, Sony X10, Hd2 with Android roms...) using native videos player,Rockplayer,Alphaplayer but my 720p flv videos did not play smoothly.Now I have a Samsung Vibrant, so far so good! All of my videos play with no issues.
My question is: does the Desire HD capable of playing 720p videos in flv format smoothkly (Ps:I'd like to buy it for the bigger screen and 8Mpxls)?
Thanks
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why dont you just re-encode it to a file format that takes less powered to decode ?
Hi. Because I have more than 500 Go of movies, mangas and many things in 720p flv format so I don't have time to change them when I want to travel.
I might be wrong but I THINK the SGS is king when it comes to movie playback and the formats supported out of the box.
I can't speak for the DHD yet as I don't have one but I'm sure someone will be able to check this out for you.
Id also like to know were Core media player for android went.
Wonder if it ever will get released.
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I might be wrong but I THINK the SGS is king when it comes to movie playback and the formats supported out of the box.
I can't speak for the DHD yet as I don't have one but I'm sure someone will be able to check this out for you.
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Is true, the SGS plays everything without problems. It handles full dvd 720p mkv`s like a champ, even with dts sound. I hope DHD can, as in terms of power it could handle them too.
Can anyone confirm if the dhd can handle the same as above?
xspyda said:
Can anyone confirm if the dhd can handle the same as above?
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No, it can't. The DHD (as stated in the specifications) does not play mkv files out of the box. It's capable of decoding the video stream (which is h264) but the audio is ac3 which is a no go with the stock player. I tried vplayer but the results are disappointing - it's like a slowmotion video. What you can do is reencode the files copying the video stream and encoding the audio to aac, and saving it in mp4 format. It takes a couple of minutes for half hour movie, so it's no trouble at all. Still you might be careful what bitrates you encode since the DHD has to have some limit on that.
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Thanks all for the feed back! Now I think that it's better for me to stay with my Vibrant for watching my HD videos (even if I like the 8Mpxls and dual led flash of the Desire HD). However it's just impossible to have the perfect smartphone isn'it? My dream: I hope some day we will have an Android phone with 12Mpxls 25 mm wide angle, Full HD recording and playback in any formats (specially flv for me), 4,3 inch or bigger screen with 1280X720 resolution and MEGA AMOLED!!!
Keep on dreaming
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I hear that divx is supported by the dhd out of the box, just wondered if anyone had managed to get divx / avi to play from a pc on the network using the 'connected media' option within videos... is this possible?

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