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I'm loving this phone, but I'm struggling with one thing; I can't find a way to play "normal" divx (avi) files with i.e. CorePlayer (1.2.6), on a normal quality. It just skips a few frames now and then.
Is this just me (am I missing a X1 specific option), or are we waiting for some driver magic from the guys at Coreplayer?
use the standalone divxplayer
That plays even slower than Coreplayer
I also found the offical divx player has terrible sound quality as well as its poor framerate.
I am puzzled at the people who claim the X1 plays DivX fine. To me, anything less than 24fps is far from fine and it seems to struggle to handle 15fps.
Alex Atkin UK said:
I also found the offical divx player has terrible sound quality as well as its poor framerate.
I am puzzled at the people who claim the X1 plays DivX fine. To me, anything less than 24fps is far from fine and it seems to struggle to handle 15fps.
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ive got the x1i and coreplayer 1.2.5 and it plays all divx perfectly, nothing skipped and nothing bad , maybe you guys installed something memoryhungry?
other members states that KinomaPlayer is the best player, who knows, try it to rate it, i don't know how good it is since the coreplayer is working great.
the coreplayer 1.3.0 is out, but dont know the news in it though
smaberg said:
ive got the x1i and coreplayer 1.2.5 and it plays all divx perfectly, nothing skipped and nothing bad , maybe you guys installed something memoryhungry?
other members states that KinomaPlayer is the best player, who knows, try it to rate it, i don't know how good it is since the coreplayer is working great.
the coreplayer 1.3.0 is out, but dont know the news in it though
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Coreplayer 1.3.0 doesn't perform much better than 1.2.5 on x1 I can play easly play mp4 movies 400x240 800 constant bitrate at 25fps without dropped frames, DivX movies 320x240 32x240, but the quality of mp4 is much better...
Up till now i could play the DivX 640x480 without any problems only on samung i780 and Dell x51v (720x...)
Hi, does anyone know which ROM is currently best for video playback?. I am currently using davi-duck v5 rom with TCMP onboard which also has the ac3 playback plugin but as this is an early version of COREPLAYER the playback is fairly poor for all my dvd rips. COREPLAYER playback is better but doesnt support the AC3 codec, I wonder if someone can port the AC3 plugin for TCMP to COREPLAYER as it doesnt look like they are going to.
I also wonder what playback will be like when we get android working on the HD, coreplayer are due to release a working model for android soon, or will the G1 have the same driver issues as the HD (being the same HTC hardware)
[email protected] i purchased Coreplayer and it is great for re-encoded video, however is i plan to do that i may as well reencode for winmo player as it has hardware acc?
WMP, MP4, hardware acceleration= near perfection!
Your thread is unclear and probably not appropriate for ROM Development section.
mp4
Like most people i do not want to re-encode all my vidoes to mp4 if we can get decent performance another way.
I understand your frustration
Yeah right!
Yeah i bought my Coreplayer on the Mininova website
Very bad
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Yeah i bought my Coreplayer on the Mininova website
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If people like you don't like to purchase a relatively cheap piece of software and insist on warez then how on earth will they ever want to or have the resource to develop it properly and include make all the correct optimisations.
This is the wrong forum for comments like that - if a MOD sees it your lucky if you dont get banned.
Go buy a licence it is dirt cheap the people at CoreCodec deserve it!
I just played around with an HD2 at one of my local T-Mobile stores. I was very impressed. That screen is amazing and everything that I played with was so fast and smooth. I was wondering about the Transformers videos. I didn't get to dig into it too much to try to figure this out on my own. What format are the videos? I assume they have the video player built into it since it plays without any other UI just open it up and play pause etc. I was blown away with how fast you were able to seek to different spots on the video, no buffer/delay time at all. Is that a result thanks to the speedy processor or a great player or both? It would be nice to be able to encode movies and build in the player like that for other movies, or mod that player to be able to choose from a list videos?
I have not used a WinMo phone for a while, the last one I owned was a Shadow (Juno) so this is a big change. After playing with it I am very very tempted to go buy. I would be 100% sold if they had Android working on it and I could dual boot. Either way it is an awesome phone!
Those Transformers movies are mp4 encoded. What's happening is the phone is using the HTC stock video player from the albums. It's the only thing that properly uses hardware acceleration that I have seen, the quickness you see when moving around the slider in the movie is really processor based. The TP2 always takes a second or two to find your spot when doing that.
Very nice, so if I encode with MP4 as I can expect the same results as transformers is getting with the stock media player? TMPMP/Coreplayer , was always the "best" media player as far as I knew back in the day. It probably supports more codecs but are there any performance upgrades that you could expect from using that program over the stock video player?
Where can i get CorePlayer?
via Google: Coreplayer: http://coreplayer.com/
It is for sale on that site. It is a great media player for windows media devices.
NickPDX said:
It is for sale on that site. It is a great media player for windows media devices.
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I think spending $30 bucks on an app is a lil expensive.
malisha1 said:
I think spending $30 bucks on an app is a lil expensive.
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Coreplayer is currently not dealing very well with MP4 video files. The best way to play them back is via Windows Media Player of HTC Album player. MP4 currently offers the best quality and performance in video for the modern HTC WM/WP devices.
tnyynt said:
Coreplayer is currently not dealing very well with MP4 video files. The best way to play them back is via Windows Media Player of HTC Album player. MP4 currently offers the best quality and performance in video for the modern HTC WM/WP devices.
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Is it possible to get coreplayer for free?
After searching for the best video player for the HD2, including trying CorePlayer (latest version) and the Smart Movie 4.0, I have finally come to the conclusion that the Mobile Window Media that comes with the HD2 is the best player.
Here are the reasons why.
1. Core Player cannot play the movie Transformers 2 that comes with the HD2 smoothly while the Mobile Window Media player can play it very smoothly.
2. Instead of paying for Core Player, use the money and buy the ImTOO MPEG encoder ultimate and convert the .VOB file in the DVD disc of your favorite movie and convert it to H.264/MPEG-4 video (*.mp4) with 800 x 480 resolution and 1500 bit rate and you will get a movie that is just like the Transformer movies that comes with the HTC HD2.
Hey mate,
Just FYI the Mobile Window Media player embedded uses hardware support for video playback. The Coreplayer has yet to do this so invariably it will suffer as a result..
Fantastic guide though...Thnx..
Don't forget an xda developer -projection has also posted a HTC HD encoder.
Not sure which of the two is better but still nice to know..
You can also use Handbrake (freeware) to convert directly from DVD to MP4 (m4v).
wineds said:
You can also use Handbrake (freeware) to convert directly from DVD to MP4 (m4v).
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you gotta a link for that buddy?
shimmer401 said:
you gotta a link for that buddy?
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I have the link for you, buddy: http://tinyurl.com/22vk95r
wineds said:
You can also use Handbrake (freeware) to convert directly from DVD to MP4 (m4v).
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hi bro,
can you share the handbrake settings that you are using for HD2?
Thanks!
Earthbrain said:
2. Instead of paying for Core Player, use the money and buy the ImTOO MPEG encoder ultimate and convert the .VOB file in the DVD disc of your favorite movie and convert it to H.264/MPEG-4 video (*.mp4) with 800 x 480 resolution and 1500 bit rate and you will get a movie that is just like the Transformer movies that comes with the HTC HD2.
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I agree...
Using the HTC encoder from these forums today took too long and the quality was sub-par. With this program you can choose the bit-rate and the quality is sensational..
++++1 to OP
Kudos mate
I really dislike re-coding my media library in advance of wanting to watch something on the go, and I find CorePlayer handles well with almost an XVID/Divx I drop it's way, at a very acceptable quality level.
It's my two biggest gripes with this machine:
1) Windows Media Player has such limited codec support.
2) HTC won't pay Qualcomm to allow other companies access to the drivers (I think that's the reason anyway).
Either way, it nearl put me off the HD2, until I felt reassured the 1GHz Snapdragon could make up for the lack of native support.
I used that encoder year's back for my Sony Ericcson, but again I'm not prepared to put that work in (not out of laziness, I just want to be ready to go at a moment's notice and not have to factor in half-an-hour per video - nor do I want to re-encode all of my thousands of media files )
Earthbrain said:
After searching for the best video player for the HD2, including trying CorePlayer (latest version) and the Smart Movie 4.0, I have finally come to the conclusion that the Mobile Window Media that comes with the HD2 is the best player.
Here are the reasons why.
1. Core Player cannot play the movie Transformers 2 that comes with the HD2 smoothly while the Mobile Window Media player can play it very smoothly.
2. Instead of paying for Core Player, use the money and buy the ImTOO MPEG encoder ultimate and convert the .VOB file in the DVD disc of your favorite movie and convert it to H.264/MPEG-4 video (*.mp4) with 800 x 480 resolution and 1500 bit rate and you will get a movie that is just like the Transformer movies that comes with the HTC HD2.
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what you got Transformers 2 with your HD2? what the Duck!!!
hahaha
I think that there is a big flaw in windows media player: it doesn't rememeber the position of the film. That means that if you close it the position is lost. I typically look the films in small parts, as logical in a mobile device. There is a plugin to solve this but it doesn't work.
This is not a problem in core player, but core player is a lot slower.
i use a divx player on my HD2 for all my movies - they play great.
Mike
ruffruff said:
hi bro,
can you share the handbrake settings that you are using for HD2?
Thanks!
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I just use the iPhone/Ipod Touch preset. I think you can configure it for any output resolution you want though. The other great thing about Handbrake is that it can burn subtitles onto the video
hi
any body can send me link to download coreplayer for htc hd2 and divx player
Guys,
Try this out and let me know what you think about the video quality. I think it looks pretty damn good. This is the official DivX player - v0.94 (Released early 2010). The interface is very minimal but it definitely seems to be better than CorePlayer so far.
Please throw some quality high-res videos (800x480 and beyond) at it and post back.
If you guys can, it would be a good idea to throw in a few tests with Chainfire's D3D & OpenGL ES drivers.
If only WMP's "scale to fit" didn't cut off part of the video (we're talking resolutions that are LESS than 800x480).
That and the ridiculous audio lag on the HD2. I can't believe people can stand watching Transformers with that delay. Even from the very beginning where a fishing buoy is dropped into the water (and the splash is heard well after the impact, lol) all the mouths move well in advance of the words coming out.
It's preposterous. I'm holding out on the hope that Linux (accelerated) will eventually be the solution, in which case mplayer would be the "Best video player on the HD2" hands down.
thanks
thank you very much , any luck on team viewer for windows mobile version
any new software available for htc hd2
moreover, can i get advice that, whether video out is available on htc hd2
Confirmed!
This (DivX for WinMo v0.94) is MUCH better than CorePlayer. The video is very smooth, except for some very occasional freezing of the frames which is barely noticeable. I observed that only once though.
There is absolutely NO Audio lag. All my videos played fine except for one, but in this case, the audio played before the video randomly in some areas of the timeline.
I'm starting to wonder if this might be hardware accelerated.
@nagagaya: HD2 does not support TV-Out.
Woah, what a shock. I'll have to try this. I wonder when it was released, and for what devices...
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Woah, what a shock. I'll have to try this. I wonder when it was released, and for what devices...
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Going by the file date from within the cab, the release is as recent as 25-MAY-10!
Interesting... I tried it with three HQ DivX files, and they all stuttered and were jerky, compared to playing fine in TCMCP.
Ignoring playback, my general thoughts are:
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I love the Video Browser - always wanted one of these (and would LOVE one as a Sense tab)
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I wish the "Fullscreen" buttons etc were bigger.
After spending a long time with my HD2 I noticed the biggest gripe I had with Android in general was video playback. I went ahead and tested all the available video players and compared them to good old coreplayer and I was not at the least impressed.
All I want is for my phone to be able to play ANY video encoded with a resolution of 480p or lower (at understandable bitrates) and at perfect image quality and no lag. On Coreplayer using WinMo, this feat is easily attainable, all 480p AVC and XVID files play like butter regardless of their encoding specs using directdraw. There is no NEON or dedicated HW support on this player yet I am extremely impressed.
The stock android player can even play 720p files with HW support but they have be encoded in a very specific way, and encoding takes too much and decreases quality, thats why I prefer native support for varying formats. When switching over to android I expected one player to atleast perform on the same level as Coreplayer and I am disappointed beyond belief.
Here are my comments.
Act 1 Video Player - 1/10
-Cant play Xvid/Mkv Stock is better.
arcMedia - 2/10
-Serious distortions on AVI, and 480p AVC video. Coreplayer WM 6.5.5 is better.
Meridian Media Player - 1/10
-Inproper codec support.
QQPlayer 3/10
-Cannot decode AVC properly, minor distortions occur during XVID playback, Coreplayer still superior. XVID: Distoritons are clear, however, no grainy playback, occasional slowdowns. Too bugy for personal use.
Rockplayer - 5/10
-Inadequate AVC decoder, XVID playback has minimal distortions, watchable. Coreplayer for WM still quite a bit better
VPlayer - 4/10
-Rouphly the same AVC performance as Rockplayer, however, Rockplayer has a better XVID decoder. Signifincantly worse than Coreplayer for WM.
YXPlayer - 1/10
-Utter crap, no decent decoders, and horrible AVI playback.
Vital Player - 4/10
-Simmilar AVC and XVID performance to Rockplayer. XVID playback had small distortions and was not as clear as Rockplayer. Watchable. Coreplayer, however was still very much superior in both 480p AVC and AVI files.
How can all the latest players on a modern OS fall so horribly short of an aging video player in a deceased platform. I truly dont get this. I also own a Samsung Captivate but do not use it nearly as often as the HD2, the Galaxy S is equipped with a phenomenal video player that basically plays every thing. I dont expect this from 3rd party players, but why cant I get WinMo video performance on Android????? does anyone know of an alternative, besides waiting another year for coreplayer to be released for android; What do you guys think??
FYI: These are my Coreplayer settings in full.
http://forum.corecodec.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3911&sid=133b4fe474b1a530f5677b0bb94f9588
I hear you man...
Agreed. As a current HD2 owner (and prior owner of a Touch pro2), I'm a big WinMo fan and Coreplayer is also my video player of choice - hands down one of the best.
I recently got a NookColor as a gift, and it happens to be my first Android device, so i went ahead and rooted it - figured i might as well make a full-fledged Android tablet out of it that I can do other things on when i'm tired of reading by ebooks. One of my biggest pastimes is catching up on tv-shows I've downloaded - and most happen to be avi files.
I cant for the life of me find a decent Video Player for Android either - i've tried VPlayer, Act 1 (doesnt play avi's - but pretty decent on mp4s - but i'm not going thru the hassle of converting my videos to mp4 - I shouldnt have to!) and a host of others too - some of which you have mentioned.
Please post a reply to this thread if you find a decent player (I dont mind forking out a few bucks on the market for one) - but as my first experience on Android, I'm utterly disappointed by the lack of a decent video player too!
True true. I heard the coreplayer team is trying to port coreplayer to android. So that might be good.
However alot of the new phones are coming out with more codec support so it may make 3rd party video players obsolete or near obsolete in due time.
Eg your captivate, it plays every video file thrown at it, if not, most.
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True true. I heard the coreplayer team is trying to port coreplayer to android. So that might be good.
However alot of the new phones are coming out with more codec support so it may make 3rd party video players obsolete or near obsolete in due time.
Eg your captivate, it plays every video file thrown at it, if not, most.
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i think ur right
The only reason I got the Galaxy S was because of it ability to playback virtually anything inc. 720p MKV with TV out.
But just because it can play a video file does not make it great because the stock video player is so basic :
No slow mo
No MKV subtitle support
No A/B repeat
No pinch to zoom
You get the idea.
Third party video players will always be required because the stock players lack cool functions that Coreplayer had years ago.
The Coreplayer teams keep making false claims about releasing an Android or iPhone version. I doubt it will happen in my lifetime.
Me too, i waiting for coreplayer, i still keep my HD2 for video playback
I survive with QQPlayer, with Mobo Player as a second choice, but I agree with your argument
Well for anyone, mobo player seems really good.
I use android on the HD2 and rockplayer has played mp4/avi/mkv/etc all fine.
This is the only reason why I'm still stuck on WM6.5 on HD2.
All android video players suck harder than a collapsed star.
Can't find any player that plays .flv, has manageable playlist, can shuffle, and smooth playback. There's nothing half good as WM CorePlayer.
I've heard that there is CorePlayer for Android (OEM license) But there's no market/consumer version.
http://twitter.com/#!/CoreCodec/status/116337393455472640
bs player is out for android and is working great, so is mx video player. i mostly use mx video player, it plays all the file formats.
QQPlayer？I do not think it's good enough.BUT MOBO
MoboPlayer
There is only one good media player on android, i tried all the others but i stick to this one again and again: "MoboPlayer" does it all.
Really ?
Probably not everything, i've seen that claim before, but i have had some weird files that worked like a charm and ofcourse your basics: AVI/MKV/MP2/3/4/OGM/FLAC. Streaming etc. You can change volume and brightness by swyping .. LEFT/RIGHT on screen.
Just download & try, because its FREE on the market. Lemme know if you agree or not.
I used mobo and is great..better than stock..and its free and all work good..till now its not bugy and block my hd2..
i've installed mx video player, mobo and daroon, because they all have their strengths, but i mostly use mx video player.