Hi there
I have cracked my screen on my diamond (O2 ignito) and am claiming on the insurance for a new phone, unfortunately they do not stock them and they are offering me an XDA Guide (Iolite) as a replacement.
I'm not too sure as to what this phone is like. Has anybody used both these phones with some comparisons or just pro's and con's of the Iolite?
The 2 things that strike me most is the lower resolution QVGA screen and the lack of ROMS and chefs compared to the diamond rom developement.
Thanks for any responses
compare the technical params and look at the covers - Iolite!
Greetz!
You can add to the cons of the iolite the lack of a G-sensor, or FM radio.
As you said, unfortunately the popularity of our device is really not that great, compared to the polaris community, or the diamond community for instance.
We have great cookers here, not as much as on those devices, but great anyway.
Still, as you can see in the picture below, the battery of our T4242 is great, much better than on the Diamond :
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Bottom line, it is a great device, great hardware, but has its pros and cons, as all devices.....
great info thanks,
The low res screen I think is the thing that is holding me back atm
This is my opinion. Iolite is much much nicer than Diamond (in real looks even better than on pictures), has longer run on battery. Cooked ROMs' quality is equal as for Diamond (well, less cookers, but this is not negative). And to be honest, I don't need VGA display at all. Only G-Sensor and FM Radio can be missed. So it is up to you .
I compared the speed of a iolite under 6.5, and a diamond with a 6.5 too, the difference in speed was huge, in favor of the iolite.
The screen is one big drawback of this device, but it gives great battery life so...
It is a drawback if you surf a lot on your device, if you don't, you will hardly miss it.........
The Diamond has a QVGA-screen too, isn´t so?
mirko.prinz said:
The Diamond has a QVGA-screen too, isn´t so?
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Nope, it is a VGA screen (640x480).
Although we love our Iolites I probably would not agree with this offer. I'm not sure how is it with claims in your country but if you are going to get replacement you should get the device with similar parameters and if it isn't available you should get the money refund which is IMHO the best solution if you payed full price. Diamond's successor is the Diamond 2 I'd expect this one to receive as a replacement...
I personally prefered Iolite over the Diamond but it may be different in your case. Here are main Iolite's characteristics I considered when comparing to D1 (I might forget somethink though):
- only QVGA (!)
- fix-focus camera (-> blury shots)
- no FM radio
- no g-sensor
- no magnetic stylus
- not so popular -> not so wide community support
- only one two-color led
+ better battery life (!)
+ better GPS precission (!)
+ microSD card slot (!)
+ better performance (however, partially thanks to lower resolution and simpler Touch Flo 2D)
+ basic accessories already in the box - car kit (holder+charger), simple pouch
+ mechanical navigation ring (works much better than the touch sensitive one on the Diamond)
Well, for me diamond vs iolite is in favor of iolite, but diamond 2 vs iolite is not.
All the drawbacks of the first diamond are corrected in the second...
Therefore, maybe you should look in replacing your diamond with a diamond 2?
The only "weak" point it has compared to the diamond is the stylus, which is not magnetic...
Related
Well, I'm officially an idiot....I left my JJ on the Eurostar on Sunday. And some lucky train sanitation agent has obviously seen it as a good opportunity to make a couple of quid (despite the offer of a reward )
Fortunately, apart from a couple of photos of Paris everything was backed up. I've managed to remote wipe it (Thanks to AKU2), and IIWPO is installed in the ROM (Thanks to XDA-Dev!!) so I'm waiting to see if my wife gets a text message that I can follow up on....
For now though, I've been relegated to using my trusty Tornado. (Although I keep finding myself prodding at the screen with a pencil in a vain attempt to recreate the happy days of PPC ownership....)
Anyway, my question is this:
I found the Universal to be pretty bulky. Not too bad, but I'd prefer something a bit smaller. My choices as I see them are:
1) Get a replacement Universal now and put up with the size.
2) Get a Fujitsu Siemens T830 in July and put up with a puny screen.
3) The HTC Hermes - pretty much exactly what I'm after, but God only knows how long I'll have to wait...and I'm impatient!
Any other sensible suggestions would be very welcome. Are there any other Universal replacements on the horizon that I may have missed?
Thanks!
I think I'm jumping ship to the Mio A701 tomorrow I want more toys (GPS), and can live without keyboard.
Hermes still seems an incremental improvement to me. Nice idea, but not quite what I'm after. And I think it looks a bit poo...
But then, I've still got my Universal, Magician and P900
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I did consider the Mio. it looks nice and more toys are always good, but I use a lot of 'connected' functions so the lack of WiFi or 3G kills it for me. Looking at that device that led me to finding the T830...
If only the screen of the T830 wasn't so rubbish, I think this would be a no-brainer, but as it is I may stick with a Universal variant (and it's bulk) until something better comes along.
And the Hermes is pretty ugly, It's only a consideration over the T830 because (again) of the better screen. I think I've just been spoiled by the VGA lovliness of my dear departed JasJar, so I don't want to downgrade too far...
Fuji looks very nice. But screen is 240x240? Sigh...
I don't use my Universal much, but I really want a proper handheld with VGA. I'd go blind (it's hard enough to see on the Universal), but 240x240 is bad
Wifi isn't so bad for me, I've got a wifi card. 3G - useful, but I don't use it in the UK really. Does the Benq have a qvga screen? It's old skool, but if screen space is a priority...
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Well if i were you i would stuck with the universal, because there isn't another similar phone/pocket pc with the same specs and a VGA screen ! I bought one because it was the only one with the darn VGA screen !!
It only the Atom had a VGA screen... ohh well !!!
You want VGA Screen?
Google this:
Sharp W-Zero3
raymondu999 said:
You want VGA Screen?
Google this:
Sharp W-Zero3
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He probably also wants something he can actually buy. :roll:
I'll be able to live without a VGA screen. Just not sure I want to go as lo-fi as 240x240. Mainly because of software compatibility problems...WM5 has precious little decent software already, without complicating matters further.
If the T830 was QVGA it'd be perfect (well...close enough to perfect!). I think I need to do some research on the problems with square screens, then I'll decide on whether to wait for the T830, or just get another Uni.
Thanks though, I do at least know that I haven't forgotten anything. You wait, when they start releasing Ultraportable PC's with built in 3G and voice capabilities, I'm really going to struggle...!
What about:
Advance TC M.A.G.I.C.?
How about a list of what you REALLY want to be there (at least)
All I want is a PPC with:
-AKU2 (for Push-Mail and A2DP)
-3G and WiFi (for decent connection speeds)
The most important NON-essential features are:
-Keyboard
-QVGA screen (or better)
-GPS
Obviously, I'd appreciate anything over and above that, so the more bolt-ons the better. And yes, something that I have a chance of buying in the UK within the next couple of months would be good.
I realise that limits me to roughly one device that's currently available, but the T830 is on it's way, the Hermes is possibly on it's way, Shame the Trinity will take about a million years to surface (if ever).
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http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/overview/x1?cc=us&lc=en
http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/default.aspx?cc=us&lc=en
As I could tell, the only thing that is a step back from the Uni is:
Smaller screen
No GPS (although there's an inline headphone GPS version, from what I can tell, without replaceable headset)
Memory Stick =/
However, it does have features that set it apart from the Uni:
800x480 VGA screen. Widescreen, not 4x3 like the Uni's 640x480 display.
Slider (not clamshell). This depends on your preference, but for me I like to see who's calling without having to open the phone up
Optical joystick - this is really awesome. You just slide your finger on it and it guides and onscreen pointer. I've gotta see this.
Headsets have an inline media control accessory. I haven't really found one that works with the Uni.
Camera is 3.2 mp.
Bluetooth 2.0/ADCP by default. Assuming this won't be buggy.
Wifi G - nuff said.
Assuming better battery life.
Smaller. I guess this could be a benefit depending on your opinion on the size of the Uni.
No wonder Sony Ericsson's XPERIA X1 is so good: HTC makes it
please be advised there is some posts about sonyericsson x1 on off topic thread and ,.....
and i think you should to know: this device will be MANUFACTURED by HTC
the X1 is all HTC-built
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/10/no-wonder-sony-ericssons-xperia-x1-is-so-good-htc-makes-it/
it seems there is no further than HTC
It also has a-GPS
I think it looks the dogs danglies, I don't care who makes it. Just look at that screen (dribble dribble)
That damned Sony Memory Stick is the only thing holding it back (I so hate Sony's proprietary garbage). But if it lives up to its promises...I guess that'll be forgiveable!
Hi,
we heard it through the grapevine that the X1 is all HTC-built....
This is what engadget wrote . But i also think it is true. All these htc devices all around....
I think HTC is some kind of reference for the mobile market.
Although some things very crappy in the past
So from my point of view the X1 is really nice device. I noticed it a few days before and of course there's GPS inside.
Although the sliding mechanism looks very comfortable.
The Uni is very universal but in fact it is too big, to use it as a real phone or take it everywhere anytime. At least this is what i do at the moment
The Kaiser is also a good mixture for an everyday device
Maybe the X1 will do it even a bit more better.
But first let's rip off the memory stick interface and integrate SD cards....
scholbert
Sony does make some damn fine electronics, but their customer support is lousy. But the phone looks good, memory sticks suck and the last I checked don't have anything over 4GIGS the touch interface looks neat, and if the keyboard is anything like my old UX then it will be a great keyboard my only concern will be Sony's support of the product.
So basically it is the same thing as the Toshiba except for the video call is that correct?
GSM arena has it with a micro SD slot so it will be interexting to see what it actually has when its released. I like the security of the Clamshell design of the Uni but i might be drawn away by the X1 if its all that it states....
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x1-2246.php
If Sony is reading this I hope to god they:
Use STANDARD SD size so we can store large amounts of data, to be comperable to iPhone
Include GPS so we can use tracking apps that are becoming commonplace
Both pdadb.net confirms the microSD and Sony's own site confirms the GPS
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1117
Expansion Slots: microSD, microSDHC, TransFlash, SDIO
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http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/specifications/x1?cc=au&lc=en
aGPS
Utilise GPS powered location based services.
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My only worry is the weird proprietry connector it has for USB - although it looks like a miniUSB cable could plug into it (hopefully its just htc's ExtUSB)
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=vid...ser-interface-for-windows-mobile-professional
It's from the new HTC Diamond and it looks awsome...
so thats how Manilla is supose to look like
Really nice... but very bad that it won´t work on our actuall devices because of less hardware power....
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Really nice... but very bad that it won´t work on our actuall devices because of less hardware power....
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I guess so. Unfortunately.
bah. i wish.
It looks really great. I hope we can emulate something like this in the near future!
It would be soooo nice!
video 3D
http://www.youtube.com/v/f_vKsxOT3Lw&hl=en
video cool very beautifull
Processeur Qualcomm 528 Mhz
- 4 Go de mémoire interne
- Slot Micro SD
- Puce eGPS
- Tuner FM
- Appareil photo numérique de 3,2 MégaPixels
- GSM, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA
- 99 x 52 x 10,7 mm
- Accéléromètre
- Batterie de 900 mAh
http://www.youtube.com/user/HTC
Lot of videos!
hot phone right there...though a bit dismayed at the link as it said that the other htc devices (for instance touch/dual/cruise) won't get the updates as they should. I honestly hope the members at xda developers can think of something on release-my brother just got his polaris and almost lunged it at me when he saw the diamond...
The damn musik app is hot! What a great implementation. Looks better than coverflow imho.
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LOL BIG BIG
I wonder why people aren't calling this phone the "iphone killer"
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Ohh, If I had a dime for every time I have read this on this site! "No way we can port WM5 to other devices, the hardware just isn't there!", "there is no way WM5 will ever run as fast as 2003 because of hardware limitations" (then page pool was discovered)
"WM6??!? forget it!" (and here we are with WM6.1). Or one of my favorites: "we cannot have the cube simply because the software/hardware won't support biotouch"... *sights*
The only thing that we cannot imitate (so far) is the accelerometer, other than that, the UIs that I have seen over the past 5 months (Freestyl, PointUI, UltimateLaunch, SPB Mobile Shell 2, rlToday, the cube(s), etc) are similar to (or some even better than) Manilla. With this I am not saying that Manilla isn't cool (it actually is amazing), but I am saying that it can and probably will be done by someone somewhere down the line.
So, think poistive!!!
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I wonder why people aren't calling this phone the "iphone killer"
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They will once it comes out!
The One Negative
that I see is that the screen could be larger. Maybe a full 3in
Now everyone will be on HTC jock again and flock to buy this phone, quickly forgetting the 3D issues. HOW SAD
true
but this is also why xda developers exist LOL
I think that once it does hit and it has been sufficiently "modified *cough*hack*cough*
I can see the 3d drivers working and being applied to raphael as well. Slick as hell of a phone
hmm, this will be ripped and ported to most devices im sure, and before that im sure ppl here will make lookalikes
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hmm, this will be ripped and ported to most devices im sure, and before that im sure ppl here will make lookalikes
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need I remind you I like those lookalikes LOL
anyway
you're right...so hopefully we may see this on a titan...*thinks* yeah right we can't even get touchflo to work properly LOL
I don't see why TouchFLO 3D shouldn't run on other HTC Touch devices.
The diamond has 528 MHz but 640x480 pixel.
Older devices often 400 MHz but only 320x240 pixel.
The processing power shouldn't be the limiting factor. Only memory could become an issue.
Sascha
Which one you think get´s closer to be a real upgrade for our fantastic Universals?
Any other model to consider?, please post it´s name,brand and picture!!
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Universal: 3rd place on the best HTC device ever: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362
Closed as per OP request.
Re-opened as per OP request.
Dave
Poll
Come on folks!!
Give your voting and opinions please!
I had a touch pro 2 for a short amount of time i would say that it is really not like the universal. too bad the omni never came out
http://www.gadgetextra.com/20070716/Upcoming_HTC_Omni.aspx
josefcrist said:
too bad the omni never came out
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I agree Omni could have been a Univeral replacement but it never made it...
Yeah, too bad
But now hope HTC will do something!
If not I am seriously thinking on move to Tsosh K02....
There is no real device to upgrade. I have tried three devices, XDA Flame - very good, but without keyboard, Touch HD - nice display, but no power (Qualcomm), hard to control (no buttons, no dpad), no qwerty, Xperia X1 - nice, but to small and no power (Qualcomm).
Touch Pro 2 has not jack 3.5, has not flashlight for camera, has not so big display as Uni and has not so big keyboard as Uni . And yes, there is gps.
I think HTC Leo with hw qwerty could be a solution .
Yeah, perhaps the touch pro 3 that is a line with keyboard can be a good succesor (if HTC launches...)
If not tosh k02 looks promising
Please vote!
a friendly bump!
It has to be the nokia N900 for me - I use my uni as a portable Linux box with UMTS/GPRS always on internet access and i've been waiting 4 years for a another phone with good linux support, display res >= 640x480, qwerty keyboard and 3G/HSPA that still fits in my pocket (so no netbooks)
More pics
More pics of Tosh K02
not very good looking keyboard, but I wonder if this is only a prototype?
And L01 with detachable kb
More info:
http://www.wmexperts.com/toshiba-k01-k02-and-l01-appear
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But now hope HTC will do something!
If not I am seriously thinking on move to Tsosh K02....
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Ya i also thought but then will there be great rom cookers like we got here for HTC... probably not... so best option stick to HTC or lear how to cook yourself
and here is what could be another successor...
looks better than tosh KO2
Yes it looks much better, but what is it?
Brand?, mockup?
It´s not a question of learning to cook ROM´s, it´s the limitations of hardware on our beloved Uni´s
We have great Chefs here and I´m quite happy with their ROM´s
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Yes it looks much better, but what is it?
Brand?, mockup?
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Well it's intel's first shot at the phone market ... finally intel comes into phone market... the specs hasn't been confirmed it says intel atom processor, sd slot along with 2 usb host. 47 buttoned keyboard, with tracker ball... well it's most likely be Rodhium 3 than uni-2...
18 cm * 5cm * 2 cm... mobile phone?
HTC HD2 !
Guys !
I am mesmerised by HTC HD2. I am finding it very difficult to resist. What is your advice ? How long should i wait before i get one ? Any changes expected in firmwares after 1rst release ?
Uni will continue to remain with me.
Leo is great but if no hardware keyboard is not an option for me
I would wait 6 months and sure HTC will launch Touch Pro 3!!
By now I can happily wait with a Touch Pro 2
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18 cm * 5cm * 2 cm... mobile phone?
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no its 18 cm X 8 cm X 2 cm.... only keyboard is 5 cm
I have to say Dream Device Uni-2
Reading through a blog, i found this interested pics of the new HTC LEO phone. Worth a look !!
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-leo-caught-in-wild-1456328/
HTC Leo pics. It is real thing with WM6.5
Found this
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/14/htc-leo-spotted-in-the-wild-sports-gargantuan-800-x-480-display/
So far I have only 3 concerns
- 3.5" audio - can not see it
- And backing seems kind of ugly
- Also lower buttons are almost on the edge of the device - silicone cases may suffer from this
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This is what i'm waiting for...
Welcome LEO..
the 3.5mm seems to be on the bottom of the handset, next to the mini-usb. There is a slightly extruded bit if you look closely.
And my coworkers mock me for the size of my Touch HD...
Thats one HUGE phone.
Now I see it at the bottom. Strange design
can't seem to find stylus slot from the pics above. Capacitive screen?
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can't seem to find stylus slot from the pics above. Capacitive screen?
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I believe so !
4.3-inch WVGA (480 x 800) capacitive touchscreen display
Windows Mobile 6.5
Qualcomm 1GHz MSM 8250 Snapdragon processor
Wi-Fi
GPS, A-GPS
Accelerometer
Light & proximity sensors
3.5mm headset jack
Digital Compass
5 megapixel auto-focus camera with dual LED flash
512MB flash memory, 320MB RAM
wow that's a really big phone.
I was thinking about buying it when released but the size is really... big!
well it seems like the size of the htc leo is somewhat similar to tosiba tg01.
My new Phone.
When we see the pics, it's not too big compared with a Touch HD.
But the question is, when can we buy it?
Is it HD2?
its so big...
nizzon said:
And my coworkers mock me for the size of my Touch HD...
Thats one HUGE phone.
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Touch Hd=iphone in size
it would be a shame if they had an iphone
its ultimate phone of the year for HTC. in 2008, it's HD rolling, in 2009, LEO rocks!
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4.3-inch WVGA (480 x 800) capacitive touchscreen display
Windows Mobile 6.5
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I thought that 6.5 didn't support capacitive screens, that that was something we were going to have to wait for 7 for.
JohnQ said:
its ultimate phone of the year for HTC. in 2008, it's HD rolling, in 2009, LEO rocks!
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well although HD was the ultimate fone, still we did see the sluggish and the lagged size of the fone, thanks to the newsense ui launched by htc which revived the dieing windows mobile htc hd fone,
all i expect from this fone is to be fast, and with the processsor and enough ram onboard i hope to see LEO outperform its cousin TOUCH HD.
i just wonder how it would be ANDROID + SNAPDRAGON + XPERIA 2 PANELS + SENSE UI = LEO ULTIMATE PHONE 2009
the pics are nice.the phone looks v nice.but like most guys here its a little too big.wonder if it will fit into a pants pocket.i dont like to carry the phone in a pouch around my waist like some old dude
I read that WM 6.5 will supports capacitive screens, no ?
I could well be wrong, I just had it in my head that it didn't, hence my confusion.
looks charming spec sheet wise, though judging by those side-by-side pics with the TouchHD (which is already on the edge size wise) , it will be ridiculously big
other concerns being that it's thinner, yet has a larger display, more ram and a twice as powerful cpu : will that lead to a shorter battery autonomy?
and if the screen is indeed conductive it will be annoying having to zoom in rather then using the stylus when web browsing or using some of the more ppc-oriented windows apps.
we'll see