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http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/overview/x1?cc=us&lc=en
http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/default.aspx?cc=us&lc=en
As I could tell, the only thing that is a step back from the Uni is:
Smaller screen
No GPS (although there's an inline headphone GPS version, from what I can tell, without replaceable headset)
Memory Stick =/
However, it does have features that set it apart from the Uni:
800x480 VGA screen. Widescreen, not 4x3 like the Uni's 640x480 display.
Slider (not clamshell). This depends on your preference, but for me I like to see who's calling without having to open the phone up
Optical joystick - this is really awesome. You just slide your finger on it and it guides and onscreen pointer. I've gotta see this.
Headsets have an inline media control accessory. I haven't really found one that works with the Uni.
Camera is 3.2 mp.
Bluetooth 2.0/ADCP by default. Assuming this won't be buggy.
Wifi G - nuff said.
Assuming better battery life.
Smaller. I guess this could be a benefit depending on your opinion on the size of the Uni.
No wonder Sony Ericsson's XPERIA X1 is so good: HTC makes it
please be advised there is some posts about sonyericsson x1 on off topic thread and ,.....
and i think you should to know: this device will be MANUFACTURED by HTC
the X1 is all HTC-built
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/10/no-wonder-sony-ericssons-xperia-x1-is-so-good-htc-makes-it/
it seems there is no further than HTC
It also has a-GPS
I think it looks the dogs danglies, I don't care who makes it. Just look at that screen (dribble dribble)
That damned Sony Memory Stick is the only thing holding it back (I so hate Sony's proprietary garbage). But if it lives up to its promises...I guess that'll be forgiveable!
Hi,
we heard it through the grapevine that the X1 is all HTC-built....
This is what engadget wrote . But i also think it is true. All these htc devices all around....
I think HTC is some kind of reference for the mobile market.
Although some things very crappy in the past
So from my point of view the X1 is really nice device. I noticed it a few days before and of course there's GPS inside.
Although the sliding mechanism looks very comfortable.
The Uni is very universal but in fact it is too big, to use it as a real phone or take it everywhere anytime. At least this is what i do at the moment
The Kaiser is also a good mixture for an everyday device
Maybe the X1 will do it even a bit more better.
But first let's rip off the memory stick interface and integrate SD cards....
scholbert
Sony does make some damn fine electronics, but their customer support is lousy. But the phone looks good, memory sticks suck and the last I checked don't have anything over 4GIGS the touch interface looks neat, and if the keyboard is anything like my old UX then it will be a great keyboard my only concern will be Sony's support of the product.
So basically it is the same thing as the Toshiba except for the video call is that correct?
GSM arena has it with a micro SD slot so it will be interexting to see what it actually has when its released. I like the security of the Clamshell design of the Uni but i might be drawn away by the X1 if its all that it states....
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x1-2246.php
If Sony is reading this I hope to god they:
Use STANDARD SD size so we can store large amounts of data, to be comperable to iPhone
Include GPS so we can use tracking apps that are becoming commonplace
Both pdadb.net confirms the microSD and Sony's own site confirms the GPS
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1117
Expansion Slots: microSD, microSDHC, TransFlash, SDIO
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http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/specifications/x1?cc=au&lc=en
aGPS
Utilise GPS powered location based services.
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My only worry is the weird proprietry connector it has for USB - although it looks like a miniUSB cable could plug into it (hopefully its just htc's ExtUSB)
Related
Well...finally, here it is. Note the lack of antenna and digital camera on the back ....mmmm...yummy :wink:
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/1028.html[/img]
Oops...
I was going to attach an image but backed out so heres the proper address:
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/1028.html
Looks to me more like fake
btw... new design (c) Sony Ericsson AB? looks like T610
Same Photo, but CLEAR
XDA II Photo
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Still looks like fake... I think it will look more like Samsung, flat, sharp, SMALL...
Unfortunately, having had the xda for a few months I've come to this conclusion.... you cant have small with this kind of device!
Normal hand held use
I got cramp in my hand using the Sony Erricsson for 20 minutes. This was mainly due to its smaller size, otherwise its a good device. Again I wouldnt want to write a story on it for 2 hours like I did waiting in a car-park the other day on the xda
GPS Navigation
Consequently the xda screen-size is also perfect for GPS use in the car, again, with a smaller screen I wouldnt like using it in that application either.
The only possible way it could be improved size wise is with two screens, in a fold out flip-phone configuration, with the same overall screen size as now, but it would be a pain for GPS.
Basically, If you want a tiny phone, this isnt for you. If you want a device that is highly versatile, ergonomic which just happens to also be a phone, (e.g. as a secondary function) a pocket pc xda / xda2 is excellent.
Groan,.... when are mobile manufacturers going to realise that the xda's user demographic already own decent digital cameras.
The effect of this will be you never use it, unless you're out minus digital camera and see a ufo.
lets face it a ufo would have to be pretty close at 640x480 to make it worth taking a picture of!
Wouldnt it be better to not bother with a built in camera until streaming video calls become affordable/technically available.
It doesn't like a phone anymore......
I'm afraid the signal will not be as good as the old XDA..
xda 2
hi
isnt it a shame they havent fitted a decent camera. especially with the 65000 colours. and why havent the put blue tooth as standard.
regards kevin b
Bluetooth is standard.
WiFi optional via the SDIO slot
says it aint says is optional via sdio slot thats stupid thats theres no bluetoothe
Wait till you have a play with it......very very good!
Re: xda 2
kevin.beecher said:
hi
isnt it a shame they havent fitted a decent camera. especially with the 65000 colours. and why havent the put blue tooth as standard.
regards kevin b
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Bluetooth is standard and the Camera is very good
hi
how do you know its good any sample pics.
regards kevin :lol:
To an earlier poster:
These photos are certainly not fakes. In fact I'm trialling an O2 Xda II right now
A cracking wireless pocket pc with a useful still/video camera.
better picture...
There's a good picture and an official T-Mobile announcement here:
http://www.infosync.no/news/2002/n/3952.html
..lance
Here is the O2 Announcement for everyone
http://www.sourceo2.com/News/Press_+releases/01.07.2003-3.htm
Tells a lot more than the T-Mobile site and has realistic dates as well!! :lol:
kevin b said:
hi
how do you know its good any sample pics.
regards kevin :lol:
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Because I have played with it.........
derekcfoley said:
Groan,.... when are mobile manufacturers going to realise that the xda's user demographic already own decent digital cameras.
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The camera's a reason for me NOT TO BUY an XDAII: In the industry I'm in, camera phones are banned for reasons of espionage. Manufacturers should keep in mind that this applies to many other businesses as well. The time will come when we have to go back to old fashioned wired phones on our desks because no wireless device will be available without a camera.
... it would really hurt to buy a new device and immediately treat the camera with a nail and hammer!
Martin
That's really stupid. If you can't be trusted to begin with, you could very well sneak in a mini digital camera anyway. Idiots.
Well, I'm officially an idiot....I left my JJ on the Eurostar on Sunday. And some lucky train sanitation agent has obviously seen it as a good opportunity to make a couple of quid (despite the offer of a reward )
Fortunately, apart from a couple of photos of Paris everything was backed up. I've managed to remote wipe it (Thanks to AKU2), and IIWPO is installed in the ROM (Thanks to XDA-Dev!!) so I'm waiting to see if my wife gets a text message that I can follow up on....
For now though, I've been relegated to using my trusty Tornado. (Although I keep finding myself prodding at the screen with a pencil in a vain attempt to recreate the happy days of PPC ownership....)
Anyway, my question is this:
I found the Universal to be pretty bulky. Not too bad, but I'd prefer something a bit smaller. My choices as I see them are:
1) Get a replacement Universal now and put up with the size.
2) Get a Fujitsu Siemens T830 in July and put up with a puny screen.
3) The HTC Hermes - pretty much exactly what I'm after, but God only knows how long I'll have to wait...and I'm impatient!
Any other sensible suggestions would be very welcome. Are there any other Universal replacements on the horizon that I may have missed?
Thanks!
I think I'm jumping ship to the Mio A701 tomorrow I want more toys (GPS), and can live without keyboard.
Hermes still seems an incremental improvement to me. Nice idea, but not quite what I'm after. And I think it looks a bit poo...
But then, I've still got my Universal, Magician and P900
V
I did consider the Mio. it looks nice and more toys are always good, but I use a lot of 'connected' functions so the lack of WiFi or 3G kills it for me. Looking at that device that led me to finding the T830...
If only the screen of the T830 wasn't so rubbish, I think this would be a no-brainer, but as it is I may stick with a Universal variant (and it's bulk) until something better comes along.
And the Hermes is pretty ugly, It's only a consideration over the T830 because (again) of the better screen. I think I've just been spoiled by the VGA lovliness of my dear departed JasJar, so I don't want to downgrade too far...
Fuji looks very nice. But screen is 240x240? Sigh...
I don't use my Universal much, but I really want a proper handheld with VGA. I'd go blind (it's hard enough to see on the Universal), but 240x240 is bad
Wifi isn't so bad for me, I've got a wifi card. 3G - useful, but I don't use it in the UK really. Does the Benq have a qvga screen? It's old skool, but if screen space is a priority...
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V
Well if i were you i would stuck with the universal, because there isn't another similar phone/pocket pc with the same specs and a VGA screen ! I bought one because it was the only one with the darn VGA screen !!
It only the Atom had a VGA screen... ohh well !!!
You want VGA Screen?
Google this:
Sharp W-Zero3
raymondu999 said:
You want VGA Screen?
Google this:
Sharp W-Zero3
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He probably also wants something he can actually buy. :roll:
I'll be able to live without a VGA screen. Just not sure I want to go as lo-fi as 240x240. Mainly because of software compatibility problems...WM5 has precious little decent software already, without complicating matters further.
If the T830 was QVGA it'd be perfect (well...close enough to perfect!). I think I need to do some research on the problems with square screens, then I'll decide on whether to wait for the T830, or just get another Uni.
Thanks though, I do at least know that I haven't forgotten anything. You wait, when they start releasing Ultraportable PC's with built in 3G and voice capabilities, I'm really going to struggle...!
What about:
Advance TC M.A.G.I.C.?
How about a list of what you REALLY want to be there (at least)
All I want is a PPC with:
-AKU2 (for Push-Mail and A2DP)
-3G and WiFi (for decent connection speeds)
The most important NON-essential features are:
-Keyboard
-QVGA screen (or better)
-GPS
Obviously, I'd appreciate anything over and above that, so the more bolt-ons the better. And yes, something that I have a chance of buying in the UK within the next couple of months would be good.
I realise that limits me to roughly one device that's currently available, but the T830 is on it's way, the Hermes is possibly on it's way, Shame the Trinity will take about a million years to surface (if ever).
Good day,
I am a current X7501 user on ATT in the USA and wonder if anyone has an update a to when the next Athena will become available in the US that will work on the ATT’s wireless network?
Of course asking HTC got me the usual "We will be glad to assist you with this question.... unfortunately we cannot comment on yet to be released products"
Anyone have anything they would care to share?
Also curious if MS Voice command will work with WM 6.5?
Thanks in advance for your response(s).
Claude H.
I have read on the internet that HTC have scrapped plans to make the Toth (at least as we know it as a 5 inch device). The HTC Leo is supposedly its successor and a 4.3 inch clamshell device. I hope I am wrong but that is my understanding.
I heard the same thing
So sad! I've been saving my pennies for its supposed release this year... we'll see :\
I <3 my athena!
I mentioned this before based on my observations...because of poor sales of the X7510...HTC might be reluctant to add a successor to the Athena line. You can't blame the public, HTC's designers are stupid to think that a few additions to the X7510 will make it a hit. Not to mention their stupid idea of taking off the hardware buttons and joystick design.
The HTC Leo...according to others will probably have a slider keyboard. To be honest, I prefer a clamshell type. Nonetheless the specs are marvelous. Let us hope the device actually will be mass produced then released to the public, and not just be left on the drawing board.
I still am hoping that HTC will release a proper successor to the HTC Universal with a powerful processor in clamshell design.
Thanks for the info.
I am looking forward to a large screen WM HTC phone to replace my x7501. Leo or Thoth seem to fit the bill at the moment. I did not see any other large screen WM phones about, so HTC it is.
Anyone have a clue as to when either might hit the sales channel and/or if ATT will pick up the Leo as an offeing or not.
I did not find any info on ETA for either phone on the net.
Thanks people for your input n this.
BTW: Did you all hear about WM 6.5 including "TellMe" voice command software. Too cool.
Thanks,
Claude H.
Claude H.
Anyone have any more news or infor on the Thoth or Leo?
The HTC Leo doesn't appear to be a clamshell, and I doubt a keyboard, but September may reveal more info and whether there will be a Thoth.
I suspect that the Thoth if it does come out (and I hope it will), will be the same specification as the Leo, but of course the larger screen, but the larger battery is the greatest benefit.
http://ai.rs/2009/08/htc-leo-picures-surface/
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http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/14/htc-leo-rendered-again-maybe-by-htc-more-likely-by-fans/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/17/latest-htc-leo-render-seemingly-confirmed-by-leaked-rom/
Do you have any news?
I am waiting for the Thoth... I hope they will release it and I hope it will have normale audio in addition to stereo speakerphones... I have an Athena 7500 and when my bluetooth ends its battery I am always lost... the size of the Thoth will make it a killer app!!
It would be a smart move for HTC to reconsider development of the Thoth 100. They seem to have been ahead of their time in maxed-out, big-screened mobile os gadgets game, I.e. now we have the iPad, the maxed out iphone, the dell mini 5, the maxed out android, the samsung mondi, the maxed out winmo classic, all pretty much filling in the nitch that the Athena, the maxed-out winmo professional pioneered.
Now would definitely be a great time for them to remind us of this fact with the Thoth 100, marketted as the original mega-convergent device that's also, as was always, still a kindle killer.
C'mon htc!
Yeah, I am really dissappointed that we didn't see something at CES. Maybe the Euro mobile phone world congress? It is less than 2 weeks off...
Hi there
I have cracked my screen on my diamond (O2 ignito) and am claiming on the insurance for a new phone, unfortunately they do not stock them and they are offering me an XDA Guide (Iolite) as a replacement.
I'm not too sure as to what this phone is like. Has anybody used both these phones with some comparisons or just pro's and con's of the Iolite?
The 2 things that strike me most is the lower resolution QVGA screen and the lack of ROMS and chefs compared to the diamond rom developement.
Thanks for any responses
compare the technical params and look at the covers - Iolite!
Greetz!
You can add to the cons of the iolite the lack of a G-sensor, or FM radio.
As you said, unfortunately the popularity of our device is really not that great, compared to the polaris community, or the diamond community for instance.
We have great cookers here, not as much as on those devices, but great anyway.
Still, as you can see in the picture below, the battery of our T4242 is great, much better than on the Diamond :
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Bottom line, it is a great device, great hardware, but has its pros and cons, as all devices.....
great info thanks,
The low res screen I think is the thing that is holding me back atm
This is my opinion. Iolite is much much nicer than Diamond (in real looks even better than on pictures), has longer run on battery. Cooked ROMs' quality is equal as for Diamond (well, less cookers, but this is not negative). And to be honest, I don't need VGA display at all. Only G-Sensor and FM Radio can be missed. So it is up to you .
I compared the speed of a iolite under 6.5, and a diamond with a 6.5 too, the difference in speed was huge, in favor of the iolite.
The screen is one big drawback of this device, but it gives great battery life so...
It is a drawback if you surf a lot on your device, if you don't, you will hardly miss it.........
The Diamond has a QVGA-screen too, isn´t so?
mirko.prinz said:
The Diamond has a QVGA-screen too, isn´t so?
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Nope, it is a VGA screen (640x480).
Although we love our Iolites I probably would not agree with this offer. I'm not sure how is it with claims in your country but if you are going to get replacement you should get the device with similar parameters and if it isn't available you should get the money refund which is IMHO the best solution if you payed full price. Diamond's successor is the Diamond 2 I'd expect this one to receive as a replacement...
I personally prefered Iolite over the Diamond but it may be different in your case. Here are main Iolite's characteristics I considered when comparing to D1 (I might forget somethink though):
- only QVGA (!)
- fix-focus camera (-> blury shots)
- no FM radio
- no g-sensor
- no magnetic stylus
- not so popular -> not so wide community support
- only one two-color led
+ better battery life (!)
+ better GPS precission (!)
+ microSD card slot (!)
+ better performance (however, partially thanks to lower resolution and simpler Touch Flo 2D)
+ basic accessories already in the box - car kit (holder+charger), simple pouch
+ mechanical navigation ring (works much better than the touch sensitive one on the Diamond)
Well, for me diamond vs iolite is in favor of iolite, but diamond 2 vs iolite is not.
All the drawbacks of the first diamond are corrected in the second...
Therefore, maybe you should look in replacing your diamond with a diamond 2?
The only "weak" point it has compared to the diamond is the stylus, which is not magnetic...
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But Samsung didn't think this is enough so they threw a gyrscope inside just like the one in iPhone 4
In addition, the Samsung Captivate is designed with a six-axis sensor that combines the smartphone's accelerometer and gyroscope to provide a smooth, fluid gaming experience
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I much prefer the i9000
Meh who needs a gyroscope anyways?
Hah would be funny to find that people outside the USA prefer that design and the Americans preferring the international version.
Theme appears less iphoney
Looks like an old Palm device I threw away 5 years ago.
I may end up with it, but based on that picture, I don't think its attractive at all.
If the I90000 looks iPhonish, who cares? It looks better than this.
That won't stop me from buying it. Depending on the issues around locking down apps to just the Market, and what Verizon ends up with from the Galaxy...that will determine which one I end up with.
Unless someone can convince me there is a good reason to stay on AT&T over Verizon, based on the carrier technology, not the complaints about AT&T's lousy coverage. Their coverage is great where I would need it. (At least now it is).
i prefer the i9000
the american version looks like a blackberry ...
BuddyLee said:
i prefer the i9000
the american version looks like a blackberry ...
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I think I prefer the EU version as well - it might be because I've just gotten used to the looks of it already. To me the US version reminds me of the Touch HD which is a phone I absolutely hated.
It depends on the dimensions and whether it has a flash - neither of which are stated.
Like I said in the other thread, there's no way AT&T would allow another phone closely resemble the iPhone AND have specs to directly compete with it and possibly blow it out of the water. Hence the removal of the front camera, possible gimping, and changing the looks.
It reminds me of this ..
I prefer the 3 button setup with hardware home key in the middle. First, it can be used to unlock, no need to fiddle with your thumb on the side. Second, it helps using the other two keys without looking.
Who really needs a search key anyway? And if you need it, just hold the menu key a little longer, and there you are.
we should have had a poll. like the att version alot. curious if the tmobile one is gonna be redesigned, especially since the sprint one also has four buttons up front.
Not to mention the hardware keyboard
No-one else thinks that it looks exactly like the Looks Xperia X10?...
fork! Annoying that I can't post images/urls. I wanna put the first image next to this one img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/XperiaX10_450x550.jpg
Looks a lot nicer than the standard version to me (and I'm not in the US!). The standard one looks like it's trying too hard to ape the iPhone, and not the new one either.
The AT&T site shows the back, which does not have a flash:
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/samsung-captivate.jsp
I'd definitely prefer this one - 16GB Flash (Vodafone exclusive in the UK) and a gyroscope, with better styling. It might not have a front camera, but it doesn't have a chocolate teapot attachment either and I care about the same amount for both of those features. (Well, to be fair, I could eat the chocolate - that would serve more of a purpose.) I've had phones with front-facing cameras for three years and have never made or received a video call over 3G, or had any desire to do so.
this doesn't look hot. i like the 9000 better
looks like a mini dell mini5 streak
pun intended
Biggest question for me, since both of them have slight variance in hardware like no front-camera and gyroscope, will a single rom cooked for 1 version work for both versions?
Because thats huge. It would fragment the Euro and USA rom cookers.
US Version looks way better and it has all 4 capacitive buttons, which would make running custom software a little easier. Booo @ removing the front facing camera.