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Improved Touchflo

Looking at the new Touch Viva HTC have annonced the pictures show a slightly different touchflo:
http://www.htc.com/uk/default.aspx
Is the analog clock and advanced weather tab available now? As I can't find it anywhere, or is this something that is going to be launched with this new handset?

its a 2d version of tf3d, for low end phones. there are community members working on a port for our diamonds.

wilfmoralee said:
Looking at the new Touch Viva HTC have annonced the pictures show a slightly different touchflo:
http://www.htc.com/uk/default.aspx
Is the analog clock and advanced weather tab available now? As I can't find it anywhere, or is this something that is going to be launched with this new handset?
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Dude thats one of the sweetest HTC device I've lied my eyes on...
ROM : 512mb
RAM : 288mb
Everything else seems not much different but..
GOSH

Diamond HD is the sweetest thing ever, and there are quite a few changes too.
But fine she is, can't wait

Rumors are this phone id out in December? I'm due upgrade in November

can we stay on topic please!

Yeah, the clock is nice, and I kinda put a new thread out there for it, but I guess will have to wait for the phone to come out so it can be extracted from the ROM, otherwise a imitation created from scratch.

maybe wrong placed here but i didnt want to start a new thread for my quick qeustion.. what is better our diamond vga or the hd wvga??

wvga is 800x480 and vga is "only" 640x480
the only reason Touch HD has that resolution is couse its screen is way longer

here is johnny said:
maybe wrong placed here but i didnt want to start a new thread for my quick qeustion.. what is better our diamond vga or the hd wvga??
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Maybe a simple search would do the trick...
But anyways here goes..WVGA is known as Wide Video Graphic Array, and apparently from what I've read is that is has better picture quality then a VGA.
Theres not much info on the net but try searching for WVGA and it will answer ur question dude.
I'v seen a video on youtude of a GPS that uses a WVGA and has a Nexuschip or something.
But it brings images to life, like playing a racing game..Hope this helps ya bro

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you dont know what your saying ? do you ?
okey here's how it goes Touch HD has way bigger and mostly longer screen and because it's WVGA resolution that is same resolution as VGA but "longer or wider" so there should be no difference unless it just simply has better screen manufactored for it.

or to put it another way, pixels per inch are the same.

Atrius said:
or to put it another way, pixels per inch are the same.
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actually nope Touch HD has bigger screen so there is less pixels per inch in HD

PetroOMG said:
actually nope Touch HD has bigger screen so there is less pixels per inch in HD
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But it has more pixels so surely they've used the same ppi?

Kevlah said:
But it has more pixels so surely they've used the same ppi?
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but Touch HD screen is wider than the one in Diamond and there are the same amount of pixels in width (480) soo ppi is different
after calculation im sure that Diamond has higher ppi
Diamond 285.71 PPI
HD 245.51 PPI
happy now

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426981

Touch HD 2 (Firestone)

I don't know if this was already shared here but see this:
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/59725/digitimes-htc-touch-hd-2-komt-eind-derde-kwartaal-uit.html
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090421PD213.html
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/58803/ch...htc-smartphone-met-4-komma-8-inch-scherm.html
So basicly it will have the new snapdragon chips.
Probably running 1Ghz, and having a 8MP camera, and a 3.6 size screen...
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Admins, delete if this has already been posted.

I don't know anything about the Snapdragon chips, but I really wanted it to have the nVidia Tegra chip. The demo of that is amazing, and the Zune HD will have it, apparently.
Thanks for the info

UGLY design

Smaller screen?
I thought there were more larger screen HTC phones coming? I make fun of all my iPhone friends with their dinky 3.5 inch screens!

Hmm if it really has a smaller screen than I´ll better buy me the toshiba tg01 with it´s 4.1" screen! Ok its bigger than the touch hd but its thinner too (just search google pictures and type: touch hd tg01). And it also will have the 1GHz snapdragon chip. The video performance must be also great on the toshiba as you can see at some sample movies. And you can easy adjust the cpu speed on it when you don´t need all the speed and more battery power!
So if this here really will be the next touch hd than I really have to say "bye bye htc for the next months".
I´m sorry for my english

isn't that a russian touch hd on the screen? (google "touch hd yota")

RobbyTouchHD said:
Hmm if it really has a smaller screen than I´ll better buy me the toshiba tg01 with it´s 4.1" screen! Ok its bigger than the touch hd but its thinner too (just search google pictures and type: touch hd tg01). And it also will have the 1GHz snapdragon chip. The video performance must be also great on the toshiba as you can see at some sample movies. And you can easy adjust the cpu speed on it when you don´t need all the speed and more battery power!
So if this here really will be the next touch hd than I really have to say "bye bye htc for the next months".
I´m sorry for my english
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WOW! The TG01 is really sleek and thin! Nice! But the standard screen (those coloured vertical stripes) is REEEEAAALLLYYY UGLY!!!

Sallcho said:
isn't that a russian touch hd on the screen? (google "touch hd yota")
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Indeed it is

i thought the touch hd 2 is the whitestone?

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WOW! The TG01 is really sleek and thin! Nice!
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Saw on PDAdb.net that Toshiba have also announced a TG02, TG03, K01, K02, & L01 all with Snapdragon for this year. A ppc marketing fit for everybody. They are taking no prisoners!!

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i thought the touch hd 2 is the whitestone?
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I'm sure your right.
Blackstone = HD
Whitestone = HD 2

Images from http://www.mobileagenda.org/?tag=htc-topaz

Ill keep my Touch HD until SuperStar is out!!

is our qualcomm cpu lousy or something?

MAMeingast said:
WOW! The TG01 is really sleek and thin! Nice! But the standard screen (those coloured vertical stripes) is REEEEAAALLLYYY UGLY!!!
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Yes the standart screen is really ugly but I´ll install spb mobile shell 3 on it first and than it´ll be a really nice device! ;-)

OK humour me......................
I used to have a hermes, I now have an HD, and however much I try I can't type on it!!!!!!!!
So I need a hardware keyboard.........................
I know the Touch Pro 2 is due out June. I think this is the Rhodium.
But what comes next after that with a HW keyboard??

to be honest, after using the X1 keybaord, i never believe in HW keyboard.. anymore...
it was horrible

btw if hd 2 is really 3.6 inch only, i feel it is a step back.. big screen is GOOD.

Ugly
lukzke said:
UGLY design
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Exactly agree with, hate it, very UGLY

The Firestone is a the MAX4G if those pictures are anything to go by.

[POLL] Most similar to a perfect upgrade for Universal

Which one you think get´s closer to be a real upgrade for our fantastic Universals?
Any other model to consider?, please post it´s name,brand and picture!!
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Universal: 3rd place on the best HTC device ever: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362

Closed as per OP request.

Re-opened as per OP request.
Dave

Poll
Come on folks!!
Give your voting and opinions please!

I had a touch pro 2 for a short amount of time i would say that it is really not like the universal. too bad the omni never came out
http://www.gadgetextra.com/20070716/Upcoming_HTC_Omni.aspx

josefcrist said:
too bad the omni never came out
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I agree Omni could have been a Univeral replacement but it never made it...

Yeah, too bad
But now hope HTC will do something!
If not I am seriously thinking on move to Tsosh K02....

There is no real device to upgrade. I have tried three devices, XDA Flame - very good, but without keyboard, Touch HD - nice display, but no power (Qualcomm), hard to control (no buttons, no dpad), no qwerty, Xperia X1 - nice, but to small and no power (Qualcomm).
Touch Pro 2 has not jack 3.5, has not flashlight for camera, has not so big display as Uni and has not so big keyboard as Uni . And yes, there is gps.
I think HTC Leo with hw qwerty could be a solution .

Yeah, perhaps the touch pro 3 that is a line with keyboard can be a good succesor (if HTC launches...)
If not tosh k02 looks promising

Please vote!
a friendly bump!

It has to be the nokia N900 for me - I use my uni as a portable Linux box with UMTS/GPRS always on internet access and i've been waiting 4 years for a another phone with good linux support, display res >= 640x480, qwerty keyboard and 3G/HSPA that still fits in my pocket (so no netbooks)

More pics
More pics of Tosh K02
not very good looking keyboard, but I wonder if this is only a prototype?
And L01 with detachable kb
More info:
http://www.wmexperts.com/toshiba-k01-k02-and-l01-appear

orb3000 said:
But now hope HTC will do something!
If not I am seriously thinking on move to Tsosh K02....
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Ya i also thought but then will there be great rom cookers like we got here for HTC... probably not... so best option stick to HTC or lear how to cook yourself
and here is what could be another successor...
looks better than tosh KO2

Yes it looks much better, but what is it?
Brand?, mockup?
It´s not a question of learning to cook ROM´s, it´s the limitations of hardware on our beloved Uni´s
We have great Chefs here and I´m quite happy with their ROM´s

orb3000 said:
Yes it looks much better, but what is it?
Brand?, mockup?
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Well it's intel's first shot at the phone market ... finally intel comes into phone market... the specs hasn't been confirmed it says intel atom processor, sd slot along with 2 usb host. 47 buttoned keyboard, with tracker ball... well it's most likely be Rodhium 3 than uni-2...

18 cm * 5cm * 2 cm... mobile phone?

HTC HD2 !
Guys !
I am mesmerised by HTC HD2. I am finding it very difficult to resist. What is your advice ? How long should i wait before i get one ? Any changes expected in firmwares after 1rst release ?
Uni will continue to remain with me.

Leo is great but if no hardware keyboard is not an option for me
I would wait 6 months and sure HTC will launch Touch Pro 3!!
By now I can happily wait with a Touch Pro 2

nagash91 said:
18 cm * 5cm * 2 cm... mobile phone?
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no its 18 cm X 8 cm X 2 cm.... only keyboard is 5 cm

I have to say Dream Device Uni-2

HTC Shift VS Fujitsu u810 - opinions please

I currently stuck on deciding between two devices i thought id post here and get some opinions from shift users.
I currently have a Samsung NC10 wich is brilliant but ive stopped carrying it around because its too big tbh and i need to trade up for something more portable.
Both have:
- Intel A110 (Stealey) 800mhz
- Intel GMA 950
- 1 GB RAM (ddr2 i think?)
- 40 GB HDD (4200 1.8"?)
- 1024x600 (i presume both squeeze the res down?)
Fujitsu u810:
- Size (w/h/d mm) - 171/152/32 mm
- Better keyboard
- 5.6 inch screen
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HTC Shift:
- Size (w/h/d mm) - 207/129/25 mm
- HSDPA
- 7 Inch screen
The way i figure therye both getting Win7/XP & Ubuntu dualboot the u810 bas i big chunky battery so they end up verry similar size wise and that 7" screen on the shift is nice.
But i have had issues with HTC, ive owned 3 different htc devices and all 3 have had faulty mini usb sockets, and i worry about htc build quality and software/drivers in general, my touch pro is a complete disaster.
I basically just want opinions, im leaning towards the shift but it htink the ppc part is pointless really and again build quality?.
I like to know if there are any common gripes/faults with the htc shift or has anyone used both? What is the shifts build quality like?
thanks for your input. funk

HI,
I like the HTC and never had a problem with build quality (4x Universal, 2x Xperia, G1, Kaiser, Shift). ((right, the Xperia is another story ... ))
Shift is really good and massive.
I have a Sony UX380 also so can compare the screen sizes. My opinion: the Shift with 7" screen is better to use and see.
Keyboard is fine on SHift, fast typing is possible.
Built in 3G modem is a very big positive point.
I don't know the battery life on u810, but my shift can run with 3G approx. 2hours (the battery is not a new one). Without wireless it is longer...
funkus said:
I currently stuck on deciding between two devices ....
Fujitsu u810:
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HTC Shift:
- Size (w/h/d mm) - 207/129/25 mm
- HSDPA
- 7 Inch screen
The way i figure therye both getting Win7/XP & Ubuntu dualboot the u810 bas i big chunky battery so they end up verry similar size wise and that 7" screen on the shift is nice.
But i have had issues with HTC, ive owned 3 different htc devices and all 3 have had faulty mini usb sockets, and i worry about htc build quality and software/drivers in general, my touch pro is a complete disaster.
thanks for your input. funk
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KwiHa said:
HI,
I like the HTC and never had a problem with build quality (4x Universal, 2x Xperia, G1, Kaiser, Shift). ((right, the Xperia is another story ... ))
Shift is really good and massive.
I have a Sony UX380 also so can compare the screen sizes. My opinion: the Shift with 7" screen is better to use and see.
Keyboard is fine on SHift, fast typing is possible.
Built in 3G modem is a very big positive point.
I don't know the battery life on u810, but my shift can run with 3G approx. 2hours (the battery is not a new one). Without wireless it is longer...
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well with the u810 i would have to buy two batteries anyway because it comes with a huge extra life one and id buy a smaller one for evryday use, the u810 claims 4 hours but without the big battery sticking out the back it will be about 2 hours. So i wouldnt mind buying a spare for the shift, and atleast the screen size will take up most of the face of the device in tablet mode.
(note the u810 glamuor shot above doesnt show the bulky battery version ofc)

Dilemma solved ?
Hi,
Look, the Shift is a "HYBRID"" on of a kind device, which is extremely
well built and feels solid as , well, a brick.
HYBRID... meaning, there's a second computer inside, which is a Windows Mobile Phone. SO you'll get an "always on supersize PDA" AND a Windows7/XP computer)
Having said this, the decisive buying factor for many owners is the advantage for having a PDA with a gigantic battery which allows for a weeks work in Winodws Mobile (AvtiveSync, Browsing, Email, occasional calls and SMS), anything you'd do with your PDA, there's a GPS inside to have you use Google Maps etc... all WITHOUT booting an OS like ubuntu,Win7.
Then, when the task at hand requires "a(ny) netbook/" you simply
boot your OS of choice and have your go with that.
You can't leave that out of consideration.

Yeah they are very different devices. You would never be able to fully compare the two device due to the differences in hardware.
Personally I would have both if somone were to give them to me! They are both very neat little devices. Personally I think the Shift looks better. The U810 looks very chunky, a bit dated.

well ive made my purchase , thanks for the advice, (and the seller told me to try xda developers for more info and help) hehe

Diamond to Iolite

Hi there
I have cracked my screen on my diamond (O2 ignito) and am claiming on the insurance for a new phone, unfortunately they do not stock them and they are offering me an XDA Guide (Iolite) as a replacement.
I'm not too sure as to what this phone is like. Has anybody used both these phones with some comparisons or just pro's and con's of the Iolite?
The 2 things that strike me most is the lower resolution QVGA screen and the lack of ROMS and chefs compared to the diamond rom developement.
Thanks for any responses

compare the technical params and look at the covers - Iolite!
Greetz!

You can add to the cons of the iolite the lack of a G-sensor, or FM radio.
As you said, unfortunately the popularity of our device is really not that great, compared to the polaris community, or the diamond community for instance.
We have great cookers here, not as much as on those devices, but great anyway.
Still, as you can see in the picture below, the battery of our T4242 is great, much better than on the Diamond :
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Bottom line, it is a great device, great hardware, but has its pros and cons, as all devices.....

great info thanks,
The low res screen I think is the thing that is holding me back atm

This is my opinion. Iolite is much much nicer than Diamond (in real looks even better than on pictures), has longer run on battery. Cooked ROMs' quality is equal as for Diamond (well, less cookers, but this is not negative). And to be honest, I don't need VGA display at all. Only G-Sensor and FM Radio can be missed. So it is up to you .

I compared the speed of a iolite under 6.5, and a diamond with a 6.5 too, the difference in speed was huge, in favor of the iolite.
The screen is one big drawback of this device, but it gives great battery life so...
It is a drawback if you surf a lot on your device, if you don't, you will hardly miss it.........

The Diamond has a QVGA-screen too, isn´t so?

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The Diamond has a QVGA-screen too, isn´t so?
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Nope, it is a VGA screen (640x480).

Although we love our Iolites I probably would not agree with this offer. I'm not sure how is it with claims in your country but if you are going to get replacement you should get the device with similar parameters and if it isn't available you should get the money refund which is IMHO the best solution if you payed full price. Diamond's successor is the Diamond 2 I'd expect this one to receive as a replacement...
I personally prefered Iolite over the Diamond but it may be different in your case. Here are main Iolite's characteristics I considered when comparing to D1 (I might forget somethink though):
- only QVGA (!)
- fix-focus camera (-> blury shots)
- no FM radio
- no g-sensor
- no magnetic stylus
- not so popular -> not so wide community support
- only one two-color led
+ better battery life (!)
+ better GPS precission (!)
+ microSD card slot (!)
+ better performance (however, partially thanks to lower resolution and simpler Touch Flo 2D)
+ basic accessories already in the box - car kit (holder+charger), simple pouch
+ mechanical navigation ring (works much better than the touch sensitive one on the Diamond)

Well, for me diamond vs iolite is in favor of iolite, but diamond 2 vs iolite is not.
All the drawbacks of the first diamond are corrected in the second...
Therefore, maybe you should look in replacing your diamond with a diamond 2?
The only "weak" point it has compared to the diamond is the stylus, which is not magnetic...