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New 3D TouchFLo - Damn HOT!!

http://www.theunwired.net/?item=vid...ser-interface-for-windows-mobile-professional
It's from the new HTC Diamond and it looks awsome...

so thats how Manilla is supose to look like

Really nice... but very bad that it won´t work on our actuall devices because of less hardware power....

ChiefmasterB said:
Really nice... but very bad that it won´t work on our actuall devices because of less hardware power....
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I guess so. Unfortunately.

bah. i wish.

It looks really great. I hope we can emulate something like this in the near future!
It would be soooo nice!

video 3D
http://www.youtube.com/v/f_vKsxOT3Lw&hl=en
video cool very beautifull
Processeur Qualcomm 528 Mhz
- 4 Go de mémoire interne
- Slot Micro SD
- Puce eGPS
- Tuner FM
- Appareil photo numérique de 3,2 MégaPixels
- GSM, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA
- 99 x 52 x 10,7 mm
- Accéléromètre
- Batterie de 900 mAh

http://www.youtube.com/user/HTC
Lot of videos!

hot phone right there...though a bit dismayed at the link as it said that the other htc devices (for instance touch/dual/cruise) won't get the updates as they should. I honestly hope the members at xda developers can think of something on release-my brother just got his polaris and almost lunged it at me when he saw the diamond...

The damn musik app is hot! What a great implementation. Looks better than coverflow imho.

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LOL BIG BIG

I wonder why people aren't calling this phone the "iphone killer"

ChiefmasterB said:
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Ohh, If I had a dime for every time I have read this on this site! "No way we can port WM5 to other devices, the hardware just isn't there!", "there is no way WM5 will ever run as fast as 2003 because of hardware limitations" (then page pool was discovered)
"WM6??!? forget it!" (and here we are with WM6.1). Or one of my favorites: "we cannot have the cube simply because the software/hardware won't support biotouch"... *sights*
The only thing that we cannot imitate (so far) is the accelerometer, other than that, the UIs that I have seen over the past 5 months (Freestyl, PointUI, UltimateLaunch, SPB Mobile Shell 2, rlToday, the cube(s), etc) are similar to (or some even better than) Manilla. With this I am not saying that Manilla isn't cool (it actually is amazing), but I am saying that it can and probably will be done by someone somewhere down the line.
So, think poistive!!!

domineus said:
I wonder why people aren't calling this phone the "iphone killer"
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They will once it comes out!

The One Negative
that I see is that the screen could be larger. Maybe a full 3in

Now everyone will be on HTC jock again and flock to buy this phone, quickly forgetting the 3D issues. HOW SAD

true
but this is also why xda developers exist LOL
I think that once it does hit and it has been sufficiently "modified *cough*hack*cough*
I can see the 3d drivers working and being applied to raphael as well. Slick as hell of a phone

hmm, this will be ripped and ported to most devices im sure, and before that im sure ppl here will make lookalikes

itje said:
hmm, this will be ripped and ported to most devices im sure, and before that im sure ppl here will make lookalikes
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need I remind you I like those lookalikes LOL
anyway
you're right...so hopefully we may see this on a titan...*thinks* yeah right we can't even get touchflo to work properly LOL

I don't see why TouchFLO 3D shouldn't run on other HTC Touch devices.
The diamond has 528 MHz but 640x480 pixel.
Older devices often 400 MHz but only 320x240 pixel.
The processing power shouldn't be the limiting factor. Only memory could become an issue.
Sascha

Athena 2, Thoth, thoth 100 - When will it be available

Good day,
I am a current X7501 user on ATT in the USA and wonder if anyone has an update a to when the next Athena will become available in the US that will work on the ATT’s wireless network?
Of course asking HTC got me the usual "We will be glad to assist you with this question.... unfortunately we cannot comment on yet to be released products"
Anyone have anything they would care to share?
Also curious if MS Voice command will work with WM 6.5?
Thanks in advance for your response(s).
Claude H.

I have read on the internet that HTC have scrapped plans to make the Toth (at least as we know it as a 5 inch device). The HTC Leo is supposedly its successor and a 4.3 inch clamshell device. I hope I am wrong but that is my understanding.

I heard the same thing
So sad! I've been saving my pennies for its supposed release this year... we'll see :\
I <3 my athena!

I mentioned this before based on my observations...because of poor sales of the X7510...HTC might be reluctant to add a successor to the Athena line. You can't blame the public, HTC's designers are stupid to think that a few additions to the X7510 will make it a hit. Not to mention their stupid idea of taking off the hardware buttons and joystick design.
The HTC Leo...according to others will probably have a slider keyboard. To be honest, I prefer a clamshell type. Nonetheless the specs are marvelous. Let us hope the device actually will be mass produced then released to the public, and not just be left on the drawing board.
I still am hoping that HTC will release a proper successor to the HTC Universal with a powerful processor in clamshell design.

Thanks for the info.
I am looking forward to a large screen WM HTC phone to replace my x7501. Leo or Thoth seem to fit the bill at the moment. I did not see any other large screen WM phones about, so HTC it is.
Anyone have a clue as to when either might hit the sales channel and/or if ATT will pick up the Leo as an offeing or not.
I did not find any info on ETA for either phone on the net.
Thanks people for your input n this.
BTW: Did you all hear about WM 6.5 including "TellMe" voice command software. Too cool.
Thanks,
Claude H.
Claude H.

Anyone have any more news or infor on the Thoth or Leo?

The HTC Leo doesn't appear to be a clamshell, and I doubt a keyboard, but September may reveal more info and whether there will be a Thoth.
I suspect that the Thoth if it does come out (and I hope it will), will be the same specification as the Leo, but of course the larger screen, but the larger battery is the greatest benefit.
http://ai.rs/2009/08/htc-leo-picures-surface/
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http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/14/htc-leo-rendered-again-maybe-by-htc-more-likely-by-fans/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/17/latest-htc-leo-render-seemingly-confirmed-by-leaked-rom/

Do you have any news?
I am waiting for the Thoth... I hope they will release it and I hope it will have normale audio in addition to stereo speakerphones... I have an Athena 7500 and when my bluetooth ends its battery I am always lost... the size of the Thoth will make it a killer app!!

It would be a smart move for HTC to reconsider development of the Thoth 100. They seem to have been ahead of their time in maxed-out, big-screened mobile os gadgets game, I.e. now we have the iPad, the maxed out iphone, the dell mini 5, the maxed out android, the samsung mondi, the maxed out winmo classic, all pretty much filling in the nitch that the Athena, the maxed-out winmo professional pioneered.
Now would definitely be a great time for them to remind us of this fact with the Thoth 100, marketted as the original mega-convergent device that's also, as was always, still a kindle killer.
C'mon htc!

Yeah, I am really dissappointed that we didn't see something at CES. Maybe the Euro mobile phone world congress? It is less than 2 weeks off...

Touch HD2 w hardware keyboard

what do you think?
will it come out?
will there be same specs?
would you like it? I would

probably, maybe we'll see a big lineup leak next year.
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keep dreaming
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feeltch said:
what do you think?
will it come out?
will there be same specs?
would you like it? I would
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I've been having excellence experience with Touch HD without hard keyboard. It is absolutely working for me and I type as fast most of the time compare to pc keyboards. And HD2 has faster processor, even bigger display size and capacitive screen. Do we really need to bother a hard keyboard which add bulkiness?

Typing with the on-screen keyboard is not a problem at all for me, but since I like playing games - a hardware keyboard of some sort is a must have. Unfortunately, there is a lack of games for WinMo and this is the only reason I own iPhone. A device from HTC with at least 4" sreen, hardware keyboard with D-pad and WinMo7 would be perfect, it could be the perfect mobile gaming device as well. Ahh... dreams.

A QWERTY version of the Leo is very likely to come out and, yes, it'll probably have the same specs, if not better. This is just a guess, but HTC is probably going to make it in the form of the Touch Pro 3.

8525Smart said:
A QWERTY version of the Leo is very likely to come out and, yes, it'll probably have the same specs, if not better. This is just a guess, but HTC is probably going to make it in the form of the Touch Pro 3.
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I wouldn't be surprised if there is a device that has the same relationship to the HD2 as the Touch Pro2 has to the Touch HD; but I wouldn't expect to see such a device for 6 or 7 months yet.

Shasarak said:
I wouldn't be surprised if there is a device that has the same relationship to the HD2 as the Touch Pro2 has to the Touch HD; but I wouldn't expect to see such a device for 6 or 7 months yet.
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Yes HTC usually update the models every 12 months, i.e.
Touch HD ---> HD2
Touch pro --> Touch Pro2
I currently have a Touch Pro2 and really hope there is a version 3 in the making and if it is then probably have to wait till the end of Q2 of 2010 for it.

billu said:
Yes HTC usually update the models every 12 months, i.e.
Touch HD ---> HD2
Touch pro --> Touch Pro2
I currently have a Touch Pro2 and really hope there is a version 3 in the making and if it is then probably have to wait till the end of Q2 of 2010 for it.
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For us across the pond probably 1q 2011 unless by the grace of some higher deity it has a quad 3g radio....

10332007 said:
For us across the pond probably 1q 2011 unless by the grace of some higher deity it has a quad 3g radio....
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My TP2 has four GSM bands (850/900/1800/1900) and five UMTS bands (800/850/900/1900/2100) - so it's not impossible.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585115

Shasarak said:
My TP2 has four GSM bands (850/900/1800/1900) and five UMTS bands (800/850/900/1900/2100) - so it's not impossible.
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Hmm, I'll keep on dreaming then, hopefully the specs are like that but usually my luck fails lol.

Diamond to Iolite

Hi there
I have cracked my screen on my diamond (O2 ignito) and am claiming on the insurance for a new phone, unfortunately they do not stock them and they are offering me an XDA Guide (Iolite) as a replacement.
I'm not too sure as to what this phone is like. Has anybody used both these phones with some comparisons or just pro's and con's of the Iolite?
The 2 things that strike me most is the lower resolution QVGA screen and the lack of ROMS and chefs compared to the diamond rom developement.
Thanks for any responses

compare the technical params and look at the covers - Iolite!
Greetz!

You can add to the cons of the iolite the lack of a G-sensor, or FM radio.
As you said, unfortunately the popularity of our device is really not that great, compared to the polaris community, or the diamond community for instance.
We have great cookers here, not as much as on those devices, but great anyway.
Still, as you can see in the picture below, the battery of our T4242 is great, much better than on the Diamond :
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Bottom line, it is a great device, great hardware, but has its pros and cons, as all devices.....

great info thanks,
The low res screen I think is the thing that is holding me back atm

This is my opinion. Iolite is much much nicer than Diamond (in real looks even better than on pictures), has longer run on battery. Cooked ROMs' quality is equal as for Diamond (well, less cookers, but this is not negative). And to be honest, I don't need VGA display at all. Only G-Sensor and FM Radio can be missed. So it is up to you .

I compared the speed of a iolite under 6.5, and a diamond with a 6.5 too, the difference in speed was huge, in favor of the iolite.
The screen is one big drawback of this device, but it gives great battery life so...
It is a drawback if you surf a lot on your device, if you don't, you will hardly miss it.........

The Diamond has a QVGA-screen too, isn´t so?

mirko.prinz said:
The Diamond has a QVGA-screen too, isn´t so?
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Nope, it is a VGA screen (640x480).

Although we love our Iolites I probably would not agree with this offer. I'm not sure how is it with claims in your country but if you are going to get replacement you should get the device with similar parameters and if it isn't available you should get the money refund which is IMHO the best solution if you payed full price. Diamond's successor is the Diamond 2 I'd expect this one to receive as a replacement...
I personally prefered Iolite over the Diamond but it may be different in your case. Here are main Iolite's characteristics I considered when comparing to D1 (I might forget somethink though):
- only QVGA (!)
- fix-focus camera (-> blury shots)
- no FM radio
- no g-sensor
- no magnetic stylus
- not so popular -> not so wide community support
- only one two-color led
+ better battery life (!)
+ better GPS precission (!)
+ microSD card slot (!)
+ better performance (however, partially thanks to lower resolution and simpler Touch Flo 2D)
+ basic accessories already in the box - car kit (holder+charger), simple pouch
+ mechanical navigation ring (works much better than the touch sensitive one on the Diamond)

Well, for me diamond vs iolite is in favor of iolite, but diamond 2 vs iolite is not.
All the drawbacks of the first diamond are corrected in the second...
Therefore, maybe you should look in replacing your diamond with a diamond 2?
The only "weak" point it has compared to the diamond is the stylus, which is not magnetic...

Replacement for QTek 9000 - Nexus One or Motorola Milestone?

Hello,
I'd like to replace my QTek 9000. Which of these two phones would you choose?
- Nexus One
. Motorola Milestone
Also, what are the advantages and disadvantages to buy them through a contract, rather than unlocked?
Thank you

Go for device with qwerty keyboard, from this two this is Motorola Milestone

I decided to stay with trusty HTC and got Rhodium, I´m quite happy with it

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i wouldnt upgrade! =D!
however, id say a HD2 is nicer than both of them. Android is all web-based ****, it's horrible without data. and i believe an OS should be self contained, not dependant on the internet for every function. even calendar doesnt work without data on android.

I could think on this as a better candidate to replace Uni than milestone
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KDDI au, a Mobile Provider in Japan has announced the upcoming Toshiba IS02 QWERTY Phone to the market. The Toshiba IS02 is one the latest mobile phones created to use the 1GHz SnapDragon processor. It also features 4.1-inch display with a resolution of 480×800 AMOLED touchscreen, a 3.2MegaPixel camera, 384MB RAM and 512MB ROM, a business card reader and a microSD/SDHC card slot. The IS02 also supports CDMA EVDO 3G networks together with WiFi and Bluetooth Connectivity. The Toshiba IS02 is powered by Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.5.3 OS. Pricing and availability of this latest handset is still unknown.
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Think we have the same tastes Orb ......

I went to the dark side* (well, no, I am lying, it's not really) and.... got Xperia X1.... IN ADDITION to my Uni and LG Prada. Must say, I am quite pleased. With my choice.
Played with X10 today - lovely, but just not lovely enough to make me WANT! madly.
* I bet you all thought I got an Iphone! Hahaha

My chain of collected and kept WM devices: O2 XPHONE IIm, Imate Jam (Magician), K-Jam (Wizard), SP Jas (Breeze), JasJar (Universal), Touch (Elf - still think it was the cutest little phone I ever had), LG KS20 (got TF3D ported and thought I can die a happy girl) and SE Xperia X1
All others I fixed for other people, played with and gave them back in exchange for money I also have TYTNII waiting for holidays when I will finally get to fixing it.

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My chain of collected and kept WM devices: O2 XPHONE IIm, Imate Jam (Magician), K-Jam (Wizard), SP Jas (Breeze), JasJar (Universal), Touch (Elf - still think it was the cutest little phone I ever had), LG KS20 (got TF3D ported and thought I can die a happy girl) and SE Xperia X1
All others I fixed for other people, played with and gave them back in exchange for money I also have TYTNII waiting for holidays when I will finally get to fixing it.
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That´s a nice collection dear
I never thought of you with an iPhone
I´m quite satisfied with Rhodium but will like a bigger screen and faster processor, that would be the perfect upgrade!