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New 3D TouchFLo - Damn HOT!!

http://www.theunwired.net/?item=vid...ser-interface-for-windows-mobile-professional
It's from the new HTC Diamond and it looks awsome...

so thats how Manilla is supose to look like

Really nice... but very bad that it won´t work on our actuall devices because of less hardware power....

ChiefmasterB said:
Really nice... but very bad that it won´t work on our actuall devices because of less hardware power....
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I guess so. Unfortunately.

bah. i wish.

It looks really great. I hope we can emulate something like this in the near future!
It would be soooo nice!

video 3D
http://www.youtube.com/v/f_vKsxOT3Lw&hl=en
video cool very beautifull
Processeur Qualcomm 528 Mhz
- 4 Go de mémoire interne
- Slot Micro SD
- Puce eGPS
- Tuner FM
- Appareil photo numérique de 3,2 MégaPixels
- GSM, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA
- 99 x 52 x 10,7 mm
- Accéléromètre
- Batterie de 900 mAh

http://www.youtube.com/user/HTC
Lot of videos!

hot phone right there...though a bit dismayed at the link as it said that the other htc devices (for instance touch/dual/cruise) won't get the updates as they should. I honestly hope the members at xda developers can think of something on release-my brother just got his polaris and almost lunged it at me when he saw the diamond...

The damn musik app is hot! What a great implementation. Looks better than coverflow imho.

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LOL BIG BIG

I wonder why people aren't calling this phone the "iphone killer"

ChiefmasterB said:
Really nice... but very bad that it won´t work on our actuall devices because of less hardware power....
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Ohh, If I had a dime for every time I have read this on this site! "No way we can port WM5 to other devices, the hardware just isn't there!", "there is no way WM5 will ever run as fast as 2003 because of hardware limitations" (then page pool was discovered)
"WM6??!? forget it!" (and here we are with WM6.1). Or one of my favorites: "we cannot have the cube simply because the software/hardware won't support biotouch"... *sights*
The only thing that we cannot imitate (so far) is the accelerometer, other than that, the UIs that I have seen over the past 5 months (Freestyl, PointUI, UltimateLaunch, SPB Mobile Shell 2, rlToday, the cube(s), etc) are similar to (or some even better than) Manilla. With this I am not saying that Manilla isn't cool (it actually is amazing), but I am saying that it can and probably will be done by someone somewhere down the line.
So, think poistive!!!

domineus said:
I wonder why people aren't calling this phone the "iphone killer"
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They will once it comes out!

The One Negative
that I see is that the screen could be larger. Maybe a full 3in

Now everyone will be on HTC jock again and flock to buy this phone, quickly forgetting the 3D issues. HOW SAD

true
but this is also why xda developers exist LOL
I think that once it does hit and it has been sufficiently "modified *cough*hack*cough*
I can see the 3d drivers working and being applied to raphael as well. Slick as hell of a phone

hmm, this will be ripped and ported to most devices im sure, and before that im sure ppl here will make lookalikes

itje said:
hmm, this will be ripped and ported to most devices im sure, and before that im sure ppl here will make lookalikes
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need I remind you I like those lookalikes LOL
anyway
you're right...so hopefully we may see this on a titan...*thinks* yeah right we can't even get touchflo to work properly LOL

I don't see why TouchFLO 3D shouldn't run on other HTC Touch devices.
The diamond has 528 MHz but 640x480 pixel.
Older devices often 400 MHz but only 320x240 pixel.
The processing power shouldn't be the limiting factor. Only memory could become an issue.
Sascha

Touch HD 2 (Firestone)

I don't know if this was already shared here but see this:
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/59725/digitimes-htc-touch-hd-2-komt-eind-derde-kwartaal-uit.html
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090421PD213.html
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/58803/ch...htc-smartphone-met-4-komma-8-inch-scherm.html
So basicly it will have the new snapdragon chips.
Probably running 1Ghz, and having a 8MP camera, and a 3.6 size screen...
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Admins, delete if this has already been posted.

I don't know anything about the Snapdragon chips, but I really wanted it to have the nVidia Tegra chip. The demo of that is amazing, and the Zune HD will have it, apparently.
Thanks for the info

UGLY design

Smaller screen?
I thought there were more larger screen HTC phones coming? I make fun of all my iPhone friends with their dinky 3.5 inch screens!

Hmm if it really has a smaller screen than I´ll better buy me the toshiba tg01 with it´s 4.1" screen! Ok its bigger than the touch hd but its thinner too (just search google pictures and type: touch hd tg01). And it also will have the 1GHz snapdragon chip. The video performance must be also great on the toshiba as you can see at some sample movies. And you can easy adjust the cpu speed on it when you don´t need all the speed and more battery power!
So if this here really will be the next touch hd than I really have to say "bye bye htc for the next months".
I´m sorry for my english

isn't that a russian touch hd on the screen? (google "touch hd yota")

RobbyTouchHD said:
Hmm if it really has a smaller screen than I´ll better buy me the toshiba tg01 with it´s 4.1" screen! Ok its bigger than the touch hd but its thinner too (just search google pictures and type: touch hd tg01). And it also will have the 1GHz snapdragon chip. The video performance must be also great on the toshiba as you can see at some sample movies. And you can easy adjust the cpu speed on it when you don´t need all the speed and more battery power!
So if this here really will be the next touch hd than I really have to say "bye bye htc for the next months".
I´m sorry for my english
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WOW! The TG01 is really sleek and thin! Nice! But the standard screen (those coloured vertical stripes) is REEEEAAALLLYYY UGLY!!!

Sallcho said:
isn't that a russian touch hd on the screen? (google "touch hd yota")
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Indeed it is

i thought the touch hd 2 is the whitestone?

MAMeingast said:
WOW! The TG01 is really sleek and thin! Nice!
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Saw on PDAdb.net that Toshiba have also announced a TG02, TG03, K01, K02, & L01 all with Snapdragon for this year. A ppc marketing fit for everybody. They are taking no prisoners!!

supasye said:
i thought the touch hd 2 is the whitestone?
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I'm sure your right.
Blackstone = HD
Whitestone = HD 2

Images from http://www.mobileagenda.org/?tag=htc-topaz

Ill keep my Touch HD until SuperStar is out!!

is our qualcomm cpu lousy or something?

MAMeingast said:
WOW! The TG01 is really sleek and thin! Nice! But the standard screen (those coloured vertical stripes) is REEEEAAALLLYYY UGLY!!!
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Yes the standart screen is really ugly but I´ll install spb mobile shell 3 on it first and than it´ll be a really nice device! ;-)

OK humour me......................
I used to have a hermes, I now have an HD, and however much I try I can't type on it!!!!!!!!
So I need a hardware keyboard.........................
I know the Touch Pro 2 is due out June. I think this is the Rhodium.
But what comes next after that with a HW keyboard??

to be honest, after using the X1 keybaord, i never believe in HW keyboard.. anymore...
it was horrible

btw if hd 2 is really 3.6 inch only, i feel it is a step back.. big screen is GOOD.

Ugly
lukzke said:
UGLY design
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Exactly agree with, hate it, very UGLY

The Firestone is a the MAX4G if those pictures are anything to go by.

Athena 2, Thoth, thoth 100 - When will it be available

Good day,
I am a current X7501 user on ATT in the USA and wonder if anyone has an update a to when the next Athena will become available in the US that will work on the ATT’s wireless network?
Of course asking HTC got me the usual "We will be glad to assist you with this question.... unfortunately we cannot comment on yet to be released products"
Anyone have anything they would care to share?
Also curious if MS Voice command will work with WM 6.5?
Thanks in advance for your response(s).
Claude H.

I have read on the internet that HTC have scrapped plans to make the Toth (at least as we know it as a 5 inch device). The HTC Leo is supposedly its successor and a 4.3 inch clamshell device. I hope I am wrong but that is my understanding.

I heard the same thing
So sad! I've been saving my pennies for its supposed release this year... we'll see :\
I <3 my athena!

I mentioned this before based on my observations...because of poor sales of the X7510...HTC might be reluctant to add a successor to the Athena line. You can't blame the public, HTC's designers are stupid to think that a few additions to the X7510 will make it a hit. Not to mention their stupid idea of taking off the hardware buttons and joystick design.
The HTC Leo...according to others will probably have a slider keyboard. To be honest, I prefer a clamshell type. Nonetheless the specs are marvelous. Let us hope the device actually will be mass produced then released to the public, and not just be left on the drawing board.
I still am hoping that HTC will release a proper successor to the HTC Universal with a powerful processor in clamshell design.

Thanks for the info.
I am looking forward to a large screen WM HTC phone to replace my x7501. Leo or Thoth seem to fit the bill at the moment. I did not see any other large screen WM phones about, so HTC it is.
Anyone have a clue as to when either might hit the sales channel and/or if ATT will pick up the Leo as an offeing or not.
I did not find any info on ETA for either phone on the net.
Thanks people for your input n this.
BTW: Did you all hear about WM 6.5 including "TellMe" voice command software. Too cool.
Thanks,
Claude H.
Claude H.

Anyone have any more news or infor on the Thoth or Leo?

The HTC Leo doesn't appear to be a clamshell, and I doubt a keyboard, but September may reveal more info and whether there will be a Thoth.
I suspect that the Thoth if it does come out (and I hope it will), will be the same specification as the Leo, but of course the larger screen, but the larger battery is the greatest benefit.
http://ai.rs/2009/08/htc-leo-picures-surface/
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http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/14/htc-leo-rendered-again-maybe-by-htc-more-likely-by-fans/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/17/latest-htc-leo-render-seemingly-confirmed-by-leaked-rom/

Do you have any news?
I am waiting for the Thoth... I hope they will release it and I hope it will have normale audio in addition to stereo speakerphones... I have an Athena 7500 and when my bluetooth ends its battery I am always lost... the size of the Thoth will make it a killer app!!

It would be a smart move for HTC to reconsider development of the Thoth 100. They seem to have been ahead of their time in maxed-out, big-screened mobile os gadgets game, I.e. now we have the iPad, the maxed out iphone, the dell mini 5, the maxed out android, the samsung mondi, the maxed out winmo classic, all pretty much filling in the nitch that the Athena, the maxed-out winmo professional pioneered.
Now would definitely be a great time for them to remind us of this fact with the Thoth 100, marketted as the original mega-convergent device that's also, as was always, still a kindle killer.
C'mon htc!

Yeah, I am really dissappointed that we didn't see something at CES. Maybe the Euro mobile phone world congress? It is less than 2 weeks off...

[POLL] Most similar to a perfect upgrade for Universal

Which one you think get´s closer to be a real upgrade for our fantastic Universals?
Any other model to consider?, please post it´s name,brand and picture!!
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Universal: 3rd place on the best HTC device ever: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362

Closed as per OP request.

Re-opened as per OP request.
Dave

Poll
Come on folks!!
Give your voting and opinions please!

I had a touch pro 2 for a short amount of time i would say that it is really not like the universal. too bad the omni never came out
http://www.gadgetextra.com/20070716/Upcoming_HTC_Omni.aspx

josefcrist said:
too bad the omni never came out
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I agree Omni could have been a Univeral replacement but it never made it...

Yeah, too bad
But now hope HTC will do something!
If not I am seriously thinking on move to Tsosh K02....

There is no real device to upgrade. I have tried three devices, XDA Flame - very good, but without keyboard, Touch HD - nice display, but no power (Qualcomm), hard to control (no buttons, no dpad), no qwerty, Xperia X1 - nice, but to small and no power (Qualcomm).
Touch Pro 2 has not jack 3.5, has not flashlight for camera, has not so big display as Uni and has not so big keyboard as Uni . And yes, there is gps.
I think HTC Leo with hw qwerty could be a solution .

Yeah, perhaps the touch pro 3 that is a line with keyboard can be a good succesor (if HTC launches...)
If not tosh k02 looks promising

Please vote!
a friendly bump!

It has to be the nokia N900 for me - I use my uni as a portable Linux box with UMTS/GPRS always on internet access and i've been waiting 4 years for a another phone with good linux support, display res >= 640x480, qwerty keyboard and 3G/HSPA that still fits in my pocket (so no netbooks)

More pics
More pics of Tosh K02
not very good looking keyboard, but I wonder if this is only a prototype?
And L01 with detachable kb
More info:
http://www.wmexperts.com/toshiba-k01-k02-and-l01-appear

orb3000 said:
But now hope HTC will do something!
If not I am seriously thinking on move to Tsosh K02....
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Ya i also thought but then will there be great rom cookers like we got here for HTC... probably not... so best option stick to HTC or lear how to cook yourself
and here is what could be another successor...
looks better than tosh KO2

Yes it looks much better, but what is it?
Brand?, mockup?
It´s not a question of learning to cook ROM´s, it´s the limitations of hardware on our beloved Uni´s
We have great Chefs here and I´m quite happy with their ROM´s

orb3000 said:
Yes it looks much better, but what is it?
Brand?, mockup?
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Well it's intel's first shot at the phone market ... finally intel comes into phone market... the specs hasn't been confirmed it says intel atom processor, sd slot along with 2 usb host. 47 buttoned keyboard, with tracker ball... well it's most likely be Rodhium 3 than uni-2...

18 cm * 5cm * 2 cm... mobile phone?

HTC HD2 !
Guys !
I am mesmerised by HTC HD2. I am finding it very difficult to resist. What is your advice ? How long should i wait before i get one ? Any changes expected in firmwares after 1rst release ?
Uni will continue to remain with me.

Leo is great but if no hardware keyboard is not an option for me
I would wait 6 months and sure HTC will launch Touch Pro 3!!
By now I can happily wait with a Touch Pro 2

nagash91 said:
18 cm * 5cm * 2 cm... mobile phone?
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no its 18 cm X 8 cm X 2 cm.... only keyboard is 5 cm

I have to say Dream Device Uni-2

HTC LEO Images

Reading through a blog, i found this interested pics of the new HTC LEO phone. Worth a look !!
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-leo-caught-in-wild-1456328/

HTC Leo pics. It is real thing with WM6.5
Found this
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/14/htc-leo-spotted-in-the-wild-sports-gargantuan-800-x-480-display/
So far I have only 3 concerns
- 3.5" audio - can not see it
- And backing seems kind of ugly
- Also lower buttons are almost on the edge of the device - silicone cases may suffer from this
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This is what i'm waiting for...
Welcome LEO..

the 3.5mm seems to be on the bottom of the handset, next to the mini-usb. There is a slightly extruded bit if you look closely.

And my coworkers mock me for the size of my Touch HD...
Thats one HUGE phone.

Now I see it at the bottom. Strange design

can't seem to find stylus slot from the pics above. Capacitive screen?

meeporox said:
can't seem to find stylus slot from the pics above. Capacitive screen?
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I believe so !
4.3-inch WVGA (480 x 800) capacitive touchscreen display
Windows Mobile 6.5
Qualcomm 1GHz MSM 8250 Snapdragon processor
Wi-Fi
GPS, A-GPS
Accelerometer
Light & proximity sensors
3.5mm headset jack
Digital Compass
5 megapixel auto-focus camera with dual LED flash
512MB flash memory, 320MB RAM

wow that's a really big phone.
I was thinking about buying it when released but the size is really... big!

well it seems like the size of the htc leo is somewhat similar to tosiba tg01.

My new Phone.
When we see the pics, it's not too big compared with a Touch HD.
But the question is, when can we buy it?

Is it HD2?
its so big...

nizzon said:
And my coworkers mock me for the size of my Touch HD...
Thats one HUGE phone.
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Touch Hd=iphone in size
it would be a shame if they had an iphone

its ultimate phone of the year for HTC. in 2008, it's HD rolling, in 2009, LEO rocks!

bogdatov said:
4.3-inch WVGA (480 x 800) capacitive touchscreen display
Windows Mobile 6.5
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I thought that 6.5 didn't support capacitive screens, that that was something we were going to have to wait for 7 for.

JohnQ said:
its ultimate phone of the year for HTC. in 2008, it's HD rolling, in 2009, LEO rocks!
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well although HD was the ultimate fone, still we did see the sluggish and the lagged size of the fone, thanks to the newsense ui launched by htc which revived the dieing windows mobile htc hd fone,
all i expect from this fone is to be fast, and with the processsor and enough ram onboard i hope to see LEO outperform its cousin TOUCH HD.
i just wonder how it would be ANDROID + SNAPDRAGON + XPERIA 2 PANELS + SENSE UI = LEO ULTIMATE PHONE 2009

the pics are nice.the phone looks v nice.but like most guys here its a little too big.wonder if it will fit into a pants pocket.i dont like to carry the phone in a pouch around my waist like some old dude

I read that WM 6.5 will supports capacitive screens, no ?

I could well be wrong, I just had it in my head that it didn't, hence my confusion.

looks charming spec sheet wise, though judging by those side-by-side pics with the TouchHD (which is already on the edge size wise) , it will be ridiculously big
other concerns being that it's thinner, yet has a larger display, more ram and a twice as powerful cpu : will that lead to a shorter battery autonomy?
and if the screen is indeed conductive it will be annoying having to zoom in rather then using the stylus when web browsing or using some of the more ppc-oriented windows apps.
we'll see