how long do ya'll think it will take till we can get a motoblur rom and port it to our magics? it looks kinda cool
kinda of lame... I would'nt use it..
Perhaps they can just port the FB app...
PToN22 said:
kinda of lame... I would'nt use it..
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Seems manufacturers are getting the idea behind Android. MotoBlur will become the new Hero sensation. Android is still really new so of course the new ROMs will be sought after.
I gave a Hero ROM a go and it was slow and laggy. Now with BFS maybe it's better, I don't know but I gave it a shot. MotoBlur seems intriguing so of course I want to see what it's like.
this actually looks pretty nice. but its going to be as slow as the hero builds. so itll once again be point less. i would still like to play with the build thou and see what its like. you never know. moto might have messed with some framework enhancements.
hmm... i think i would do the opposite and try to put sense ui on the cliq
methodz said:
hmm... i think i would do the opposite and try to put sense ui on the cliq
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what kind of processor does the cliq have?
Pretty much the same specs as the Magic (32a)
Processor Qualcomm MSM7201A
Processor Clock Speed 528 MHz
RAM 256 MB Flash ROM 512 MB
User Storage Available (max) 256 MB
Memory Card Type FAT32 microSDHC, Class 6 Memory Card Size Supported (max) 32 GB Display Physical Resolution 320 x 480 (HVGA) Number of Colors 64K - 262K
Clinton
I'm looking forward to giving motoblur a try since hero runs like a dog on the magic 32b ... I'll be keeping an eye on the android rom forum for this!
rockin_mod said:
this actually looks pretty nice. but its going to be as slow as the hero builds. so itll once again be point less. i would still like to play with the build thou and see what its like. you never know. moto might have messed with some framework enhancements.
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Pointless if you got the 32B, but some of the Hero roms actually became pretty snappy when running them on 32A so dont see it as being pointless at all!
Motoblur
Is anyone getting any closer to making a port of the blur rom?
might help
I have a mytouch 1.2 I'm running a MotoBlur rom with a cr-slide OC, it runs smoothly, still lacking wifi and bt but good none the less...
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now i have a question, memory have to do with programs running on the memory for faster access right. So in that sense why doesn't hero run smooth on magics i mean if they have the same memory but just lower MB if you ran smaller fraction of apps should it still run smooth on the magics? for instance the mytouch have 198mb of memory if im correct compared to 288mb, yes in cell phone world thats a big difference but is it that much of a difference when it comes to stable and smoothness even the hero itself cannot handle the hero vanilla rom. So my biggest question is with these proposed new updates coming do your think it can still be ported and run as native as the vanilla android runs?
look at this vid here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYV9NNoI8Hc
Im new to the xda forums and ive litterally tried all the varieties of hero roms on here and all of them have given me problems ranging from the blurry screen to the htc loading screen every time i press the home button. i hate the stock ui of android 1.5 so i thought id try something else and i need serious technical help getting the MOST stable and efficient rom w/o many complicationd because the actual HTC Hero is come out for Sprint on 10/11 and i dont have the accomidations to switch carriers right now. Please help
HTC Saphire/T-Mobile MyTouch 3G:Stock
HTC Dream/T-Mobile G1: Stock
8GB Apple Iphone: 3.0 T-Mobile Unlocked
It's totally subjective:
But my opinion is
Cyanogen Experimental 1.4.7 with Enochs 1.3.1 theme.
Yes it says experimental but i've had less issues with this ROM than most (so called) stable ROM's. It's easily the fastest thing out there for the Magic (because of BFS), trust me you won't believe how fast it is!
n1ck75 said:
It's totally subjective:
But my opinion is
Cyanogen Experimental 1.4.7 with Enochs 1.3.1 theme.
Yes it says experimental but i've had less issues with this ROM than most (so called) stable ROM's. It's easily the fastest thing out there for the Magic (because of BFS), trust me you won't believe how fast it is!
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But not a Hero ROM, just a highly moded/optomized stock ROM with a little Donut thrown in.
Clinton
i say cyanogens 4.1.7 without hero. Yes i thought hero was the bomb, then i started to get a lil mad with the lag. its still not a day to day user interface. i have tried all configurations and still nothing to bring me comfort while using hero. i hate to say that the ion/sapphires have the advantage with more ram. it makes a big dif. but cyanogens rom is really a WOW. Ya nothing with pretty stuff is ehhh but its super fast and can apply themes to make it look beautiful!!! with themes its still respectful. hard to say amongst most. those to vouch for me speak up.
ZeroXD 5.2r4 or Evil Hero 2.4x. Runs as fast as stock for me. Cant remember what a load screen looks like. Just need to set max cpu to 528, can keep minimum where it is and use 96mb swap file 40 o 60 swappiness.
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ZeroXD 5.2r4 or Evil Hero 2.4x. Runs as fast as stock for me. Cant remember what a load screen looks like. Just need to set max cpu to 528, can keep minimum where it is and use 96mb swap file 40 o 60 swappiness.
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for those who dont know wtf "96mb swap file 40 o 60 swappiness"
can u explain. thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649952
Ok all, I have a 32b magic, rooted and with Cyanogen running and I love it. it's all set up how I like it, wouldn't change a thing.
But...!
I have an upgrade coming up and I think I can get the Hero.
I've run a Hero rom before and wasn't all that fussed with the features such as the mail, message and contact widgets so the question is...
Is it worth upgrading?
what would you guys do?
the hero has the advantage of having more ram, thats the only difference in hardware i have found. everything else is the same, except no hardware keyboard.
It still suffers from the poor mem managment the g1 suffers. once you start opening programs, they stay iopen until it needs to free up the ram. this lags the phone and theres not really any inteligence in shutting programs down.
I love the hero rom, though it can be sluggish at times.
however there are sense hybrid roms which are realy good and run pretty quick. though i think they run android 1.5
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the hero has the advantage of having more ram, thats the only difference in hardware i have found. everything else is the same, except no hardware keyboard.
It still suffers from the poor mem managment the g1 suffers. once you start opening programs, they stay iopen until it needs to free up the ram. this lags the phone and theres not really any inteligence in shutting programs down.
I love the hero rom, though it can be sluggish at times.
however there are sense hybrid roms which are realy good and run pretty quick. though i think they run android 1.5
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Thanks mate.
Its just strange because I love my phone, especially how personlised it now is. Just not sure how much better the Hero upgrade would be.
get a mytouch :d
Wait for better hardware before upgrade.
G1-evolve said:
get a mytouch :d
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I have a mytouch already!
coolbho3000 said:
Wait for better hardware before upgrade.
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Hmmm... but I might not be able to then, when is there better stuff coming then?
It's just an upgrade from 192mb ram to 288mb, that's the only advantage. The Hero's a first gen device, I'd wait for other phones to be released without the sh*tty qualcomm chipset.
Is there anyone else out there who can't wait to root this phone and get Sense off of it?
mrono said:
Is there anyone else out there who can't wait to root this phone and get Sense off of it?
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I went from liking it, to hating it, now I'm back to liking it agian, but that's just me.
Simple solution, disable it, if you can't disable it, get a homescreen replacement from the market. As for the other apps like the keyboards and messenger apps and stuff there's alternatives for those as well.
Other than modifying or adding internal background stuff (editing the kernel or low level services) I don't see any reason why you really need root anymore. At least not for my needs anyway.
I am a big fan of AOSP but that seems like it's the only advantage in my eyes to having root nowadays, everything else can be done with crafty market apps.
Talk to me agian after the next upgrade to android is all the rage, you will see me with my foot in my mouth for sure =P
I can see myself turning off many of the gizmos and widgets in that Sense thing. Too much junk running.
tempe38 said:
I can see myself turning off many of the gizmos and widgets in that Sense thing. Too much junk running.
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I take it that you haven't played with the hero or anything like that?
go to a sprint store and try it out, finding ways to disable it is much easier than trying to add it in if you want it. Those that don't have it pre-installed want it, those that do have it want it gone.
The problem most people hated it was because it slowed down the hero, it runs at half the speed and half the ram approximately of the evo, it really shouldn't be a problem and it's just eye candy, and the benefits of having it outweigh the problem of it being on there by default. It's mainly just a grass is greener thing mostly.
The widgets can be easily removed from the home screen by a simple one time hold+drag.
I'm not the only one in these parts with an HD2, but I assure you WinMo 6.5(x) runs sense fast and smooth. If Android is as fast as I believe, sense will not be a deal breaker....or as previously stated, just turn it off.
No idea what you hate about it. What do you all think is running in the background that you're all so concerned about? The widgets? It's not like stock Android doesn't have them either.
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I love Sense UI ...
I like it. It makes SENSE
I love how some quantify something they haven't experienced on the actual phone itself yet.
It's like saying I hate playing a 3D game that runs on a 2D graphics card with a slow experience and lag. WELL DUH!
I have the new sense ui on my nexus one and its 10x faster then wm version.
johnsongrantr said:
The widgets can be easily removed from the home screen by a simple one time hold+drag.
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Yeah, that's what I meant.
audscott said:
I'm not the only one in these parts with an HD2, but I assure you WinMo 6.5(x) runs sense fast and smooth. If Android is as fast as I believe, sense will not be a deal breaker....or as previously stated, just turn it off.
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I'm with you on this... I too have an HD2 and it runs Sence as smooth as silk.
My Brother has the Desire and it too with Sence slides along very nicely.
I'm not saying I hate sense UI because when i've used it it ran slow or because i couldn't figure it out. I don't like it because of how it's layed out, the configuration of it does not fit me. If I can change it or disable it, I will be a happy person.
Personally I couldn't care less. Sense or no Sense. I think it looks nice and all but I'm a hacker bred from the Cyanogen camp. I love speed and Sense just slows things down. I am sure on a 1Ghz device with 512MB RAM it should run without any lag. I'm still an AOSP fan however and hope we don't run into the kernel issues with this device as we are with the Hero. On the Hero we are still running .27 or .29 for those who want the canmera. I feel ancient!
I have the hero with Android 2.1 ROM
It has weaker hardware.. less memory.. slower CPU
I have sense and live wallpaper running at the same time
It is perfect.. smooth... fast.. beautiful.. everything works.
I can not imagine the evo having any issues with sense or any software!
I love sense and all it gives me
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Dan330 said:
I have the hero with Android 2.1 ROM
It has weaker hardware.. less memory.. slower CPU
I have sense and live wallpaper running at the same time
It is perfect.. smooth... fast.. beautiful.. everything works.
I can not imagine the evo having any issues with sense or any software!
I love sense and all it gives me
Sent from my HERO200 using Tapatalk
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But stock 1.5 isn't exactly smooth, even the 2.1 isn't quite buttery smooth, the custom roms are, but I don't think with that much power behind it that it will be a problem, and just think what will happen when xda gets their hands on it
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Personally I couldn't care less. Sense or no Sense. I think it looks nice and all but I'm a hacker bred from the Cyanogen camp. I love speed and Sense just slows things down. I am sure on a 1Ghz device with 512MB RAM it should run without any lag. I'm still an AOSP fan however and hope we don't run into the kernel issues with this device as we are with the Hero. On the Hero we are still running .27 or .29 for those who want the canmera. I feel ancient!
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hope the whole camp jump's on this one i prefer aosp over senseless anyday of the week i install the widgets i want on my device don't need htc or sprint's bloated ****gets taking up valuable memory space
The reason sense slows things down is because they have been stuffing it on two year old devices with barely an acceptable amount of storage and ram. The new devices from the evo and incredible don't see these issues because the extra ten megs is nothing where on the regular hero makes a big difference as you start opening up more and more ****.
It will be a non issue on the evo. If you prefer asop all the more power to you I also like it but the largest complaints against sense are going to be obsolete soon enough now that devices actually have more horse power and memory.
i looooovvvee sense ui..had it on my g1, htc magic, hero, nexus one, and soon to be evo 4g
AOSP
Lets hope one of the first custom roms is for AOSP. I am running an AOSP build on my hero and I LOVE it!
I'm looking forward to it. I love it on my buddies hero. Just makes android that much better.
I am about to get one of the phones above. I'm leaning more towards the Atrix. But the thing I like about the Desire Z is obviously Sense is way better than Blur. There are a lot more roms available for it. HTC apps included with it are very unique such as locations and other one. But this is phone is going to be outdated pretty soon. The Atrix is gonna be good for the long-term.
So please I need suggestions.
Thank You
i have ( had ) both
if u want a keyboard and like to flash roms, get the desire z
if u dont want a keyboard, desire hd
if u want battery life / stable, no rom , get the atrix
u can somewhat de-blur it
Thanks a lot for your reply. I'm pretty sure the Atrix is where its at. But do you think more roms will appear in the Atrix forum? The Bell Atrix just got released today, so maybe more developers can put something on.
lsxrx7 said:
i have ( had ) both
if u want a keyboard and like to flash roms, get the desire z
if u dont want a keyboard, desire hd
if u want battery life / stable, no rom , get the atrix
u can somewhat de-blur it
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just got an Atrix
Was switching from Desire Z.
There is NO reason to get a Z other than the keyboard.
Everything else, including: screen, batterylife, responsiveness is worse than the Atrix.
All this nag about Motoblur = BS. I have zero issues with it, I find it responsiveness and although I love Sense from HTC DZ, its not worth it.
my 0.02
THanks
Thanks so so much. That really helped. I would thank your post, but since I am a new member here, I am only limited to 5 Thanks/day, but I wil thank your post tomorrow.
Thanks again
seven2099 said:
just got an Atrix
Was switching from Desire Z.
There is NO reason to get a Z other than the keyboard.
Everything else, including: screen, batterylife, responsiveness is worse than the Atrix.
All this nag about Motoblur = BS. I have zero issues with it, I find it responsiveness and although I love Sense from HTC DZ, its not worth it.
my 0.02
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seven2099 said:
just got an Atrix
Was switching from Desire Z.
There is NO reason to get a Z other than the keyboard.
Everything else, including: screen, batterylife, responsiveness is worse than the Atrix.
All this nag about Motoblur = BS. I have zero issues with it, I find it responsiveness and although I love Sense from HTC DZ, its not worth it.
my 0.02
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You just got an Atrix... How old is your phone precisely?
No disrespect but usually problems don't start appearing from day one... they start bothering you and start annoying you after a bit of use...
Besides, who likes which ROM is their personal preference...
If you are saying Everything else except keyboard is worse on DZ, I don't think so... I have changed lots of phones in past few months and finally I liked DZ... It works fantastic for me...
"mahgiaz47" if you are looking for a new phone, it really depends on what you like.
If you like flashing different ROMs, go for DZ as there is no ROM available for Atrix as of now, also, its brand new, released in states about a month ago, released here in Canada just today... It will take time for Devs to get ROM support for Atrix.
Even though Atrix has got Dual Core processor, you can OC the DZ to 1.9 GHz, which makes the phone run amazingly fast. Yes it will eat up your battery faster than usual... but even if you run your phone at somewhere between 1 GHz and 1.5 GHz, it should easily give you about a day without needing a to plug-in your phone.
I have played those games on my DZ where the game spec doesn't even mention the phone in recommended list, runs absolutely smooth, without any glitches or slowness.
But, to have a dual-core processor itself is a big deal, which means incase if we will be able to OC Atrix in future, they will run at a speed of a P4 laptop...
All of the above is my personal opinion... Just an FYI, I got my phone after the Atrix was launched and was confirmed to be launched on Bell...
You should decide what you want based on your needs...
Note : If you can stare at the screen to do a lot of typing on your phone... go for Atrix, can't go wrong.
Have fun with your new toy
Thanks a lot
THANKS ALL OF YOU A LOT. YOU guys really helped.
lsxrx7 said:
i have ( had ) both
if u want a keyboard and like to flash roms, get the desire z
if u dont want a keyboard, desire hd
if u want battery life / stable, no rom , get the atrix
u can somewhat de-blur it
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seven2099 said:
just got an Atrix
Was switching from Desire Z.
There is NO reason to get a Z other than the keyboard.
Everything else, including: screen, batterylife, responsiveness is worse than the Atrix.
All this nag about Motoblur = BS. I have zero issues with it, I find it responsiveness and although I love Sense from HTC DZ, its not worth it.
my 0.02
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creativedevil said:
You just got an Atrix... How old is your phone precisely?
No disrespect but usually problems don't start appearing from day one... they start bothering you and start annoying you after a bit of use...
Besides, who likes which ROM is their personal preference...
If you are saying Everything else except keyboard is worse on DZ, I don't think so... I have changed lots of phones in past few months and finally I liked DZ... It works fantastic for me...
"mahgiaz47" if you are looking for a new phone, it really depends on what you like.
If you like flashing different ROMs, go for DZ as there is no ROM available for Atrix as of now, also, its brand new, released in states about a month ago, released here in Canada just today... It will take time for Devs to get ROM support for Atrix.
Even though Atrix has got Dual Core processor, you can OC the DZ to 1.9 GHz, which makes the phone run amazingly fast. Yes it will eat up your battery faster than usual... but even if you run your phone at somewhere between 1 GHz and 1.5 GHz, it should easily give you about a day without needing a to plug-in your phone.
I have played those games on my DZ where the game spec doesn't even mention the phone in recommended list, runs absolutely smooth, without any glitches or slowness.
But, to have a dual-core processor itself is a big deal, which means incase if we will be able to OC Atrix in future, they will run at a speed of a P4 laptop...
All of the above is my personal opinion... Just an FYI, I got my phone after the Atrix was launched and was confirmed to be launched on Bell...
You should decide what you want based on your needs...
Note : If you can stare at the screen to do a lot of typing on your phone... go for Atrix, can't go wrong.
Have fun with your new toy
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