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1.5 stock rom seems faster than 2.1?

I unrooted my phone and returned it to stock to send it for replacement after it quit charging.. I hate to say it but 1.5 seems so much smoother than the 2.1 roms i've been using. Hopefully it's just the fact that everything 2.1 is using a test base and not an official release? I know i'll be rooting my replacement and going back to 2.1 when i get it just for the added features, but i was really surprised how well 1.5 ran on my phone. Especially the keyboard... There was no lag and i've been used to lag for a while. Anyone else notice this?

I noticed the same thing. Seems 2.1 is just slower no matter what rom I use. I don't think it is optimized as well as 1.5, but that will probably change once the kernel source is released.
boredmug said:
I unrooted my phone and returned it to stock to send it for replacement after it quit charging.. I hate to say it but 1.5 seems so much smoother than the 2.1 roms i've been using. Hopefully it's just the fact that everything 2.1 is using a test base and not an official release? I know i'll be rooting my replacement and going back to 2.1 when i get it just for the added features, but i was really surprised how well 1.5 ran on my phone. Especially the keyboard... There was no lag and i've been used to lag for a while. Anyone else notice this?
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I like Aloysious's roms. They seem pretty petty... Just dont use one that has Live wallpapers, as the openGL ( I think its called ) lags pretty bag.

Huh...maybe that's the issue. It just seems like the ones I've tried seem to lag a lot. I thought that was because 2.1 was larger than 1.5.
I don't think I've tried Aloysious...I'll give it a test drive.
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I like Aloysious's roms. They seem pretty petty... Just dont use one that has Live wallpapers, as the openGL ( I think its called ) lags pretty bag.
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Mostly i've been using Fresh and Damage roms. Recently i switched to Sushi rom with most of the sense crappola stripped out and JIT enabled. It seems the fastest of the three probably because of the lack of a lot of sense components. There are certain things about sense that i really like such as the calender widget and contacts. Also i do like the sense facebook for syncing my contact pictures. Otherwise i don't really care much about sense. The weather clock is cool, but im really into beautiful widgets in conjuction with Weather bug elite widget. Maybe when we get an official release AND the source to the new kernel so the devs can work their magic we'll have a 2.1 rom that REALLY screams.
Also, i gave up on live wallpapers a while back as i really don't like the fix which is actually breaking Opengl to make the live wallpapers stick. If you have Opengl on your phone and don't apply the fix and use a live wallpaper you will see that it is much more fluid. Just won't stick after your phone sleeps. Too bad too cuz i REALLY got a kick out of seeds of life. The perverted side of me really liked watching those little sperm swim around on my home page.

Super RAM Builds?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518
What is special about this build?
- What is special about this build is that the entire Android O/S filesystem is stored in RAM before it is booted.
What does this mean?
- Well, RAM is faster than NAND(ROM) and SD Card which in turn will make the build superfast too! Very fast. Very very fast!
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THIS Build as some who have it on their phones will testify is by far and and away the fastest build to date in Android development there is no faster build that im aware of, i can never see myself going back to "normal" Android builds again and credit must go to Darkstone this is a massive advancement in Android technology, my question is though, isn't there other chefs who can cook builds similar to this?
Merry Xmas to you all

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Dude there's another thread for this:
[http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872587]

superram is amazing, but i cant seem to charge to 100% straight in android (witch annoys me).
other than that i have it fully functional.

dapoharoun said:
superram is amazing, but i cant seem to charge to 100% straight in android (witch annoys me).
other than that i have it fully functional.
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Have you tried charging fully in WM before switching to Android. This should solve your problem.

I like Sense.. i like sense alot.. Sense means beauty and comfort for me .. I would sacrifise a bit of smoothness for a lot of Sense.. thanks..

Few days ago I copied darkstone's RAM build 1.5 to second SD card just to test it. And I was blown away with its speed. Second boot lasted about 10sec. Difference in speed in compare to any other build I tried is huge. Scrolling through the pages, opening and closing apps.....and the lockscreen is very nice
But I got huge data drops, internet in my case was working very badly. Also like Laynee1 I miss some stuff from sence.
But in any case I think that this is the way for me to go. Waiting for further releases. MDJ's gingerbread RAM looks promising. As soon as GPS is working in it I am switching.

Darkstone's build is working flawless for me so far. No data drops whatsoever. People complain Quadrant scores aren't 2000+, but thats not where the speed is at. It's basically just faster load times, and snappyness.
Also, since I hate Sense, there's no problem there

like i once said, ram builds are like sportcars, fast, no luxury, no interior, naked, raw and pure.. sense builds are the bentleys beautifull, full of gimmicks, just comfort and luxury.. besides that, the ram builds are crazy fast at navigating on the phone, but graphics are still choppy, like there are display drivers missing..

I like sense too but you when you have builds as fast aas this it doesn't matter, no data drops here either very happy with the build indeed

greg17477 said:
like i once said, ram builds are like sportcars, fast, no luxury, no interior, naked, raw and pure.. sense builds are the bentleys beautifull, full of gimmicks, just comfort and luxury.. besides that, the ram builds are crazy fast at navigating on the phone, but graphics are still choppy, like there are display drivers missing..
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good description there mate

I really wish that some RAM version of CM builds could be made. They are very fast of regular SD. I can't imagine how fast it will run on RAM!
I tried Darkstones build and I really liked it, the only thing I missed from sense is the dialer.

duke911 said:
I really wish that some RAM version of CM builds could be made. They are very fast of regular SD. I can't imagine how fast it will run on RAM!
I tried Darkstones build and I really liked it, the only thing I missed from sense is the dialer.
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I dunno how good a Sense RAM build would be. Sense is huge and it will kinda fill HD2`s whole RAM memory. I need to have at least 150 MB free on my device for it to run smoothly, and somehow I think Sense would take more than that. Same goes for CM builds, way too loaded. The sport-car comparison previously mentioned is a good one, it`s like trying to add extra scrap parts to a car and expecting it to behave as smoothly as it used to before adding anything.
Besides, ADW Launcher has tons of skins (at least it has some interesting ones, worth checking out) and it`s wonderfully fast and stable.
Something which is completely off-topic but still bothers me: if they managed to run Android off the RAM memory, could they perhaps do the same with WP7? I`d really rofl to see the HD2 running WP7 smoother than the Mozart...

Super Ram Contacts...
Hi guys, ive been using Darkstones Super Ram, for a full two weeks now. Awesome!!! Question, with my gmail acount, i have all my contacts in groups. Why cant i see my contancts in groups? I need to message them for meetings and all that stuff, all in one shot. But i cant see this setting in my Phone. Can anyone help??
Thanks in advance.

a Quick Question,
how to get the Sense UI get to work on this Build? i been searching for ever, Everything else seems to be working So Far,
I have LaunchPro Plus Installed,
So if anyone can help me out, appreciated.
thanks

appan said:
a Quick Question,
how to get the Sense UI get to work on this Build? i been searching for ever, Everything else seems to be working So Far,
I have LaunchPro Plus Installed,
So if anyone can help me out, appreciated.
thanks
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Sense wasn't not included in the rom, it was based off of AdamG's Oxygen minimalistic rom. I don't think you would be able to put Sense over the SupperRAM.
I'm using LaunchPro Plus, and liking it, I miss the better sense widgets though...

Been using SupperRAM for only 2 days now, speed has been great.
I did notice some data drops more than usual. A reboot or toggling phone data on/off has helped this problem.

I'm extremly happy with this build have hardly experienced any data drops and it continues to whizz along at great speed, i actually don't miss sense that much to be honest, when a build is as fast as this for me personally that's the main thing, hoping to see other developers follow suit.

I tried the Super RAM build and I absolutely loved the speed. However, I would also like a Sense build with it (if possible) because then I would be able to sync my Outlook via HTC Sync. I need the sync with contacts and calendar between Outlook and HD2. While google has a program released to sync the calendar to gmail and from there to the phone, they are lacking in the contacts department...
anyone any ideas?

it's fast and has good battery life. those are the things I need the most from a build. i don't know why people torture themselves with the slowness of desire hd builds

duke911 said:
I really wish that some RAM version of CM builds could be made. They are very fast of regular SD. I can't imagine how fast it will run on RAM!
I tried Darkstones build and I really liked it, the only thing I missed from sense is the dialer.
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There is actually a ram version of CM build made. "HD2ONE v3.6 [CM6.1.1 Stable]" you will need to edit the startup.txt to get your RAM ver.

What to use as my daily driver?

i currently have sense 3.0 (vie evil Dees virtuous fusion) and CM7 installed on my mytouch, im not sure which to use as my daily driver, sense 3.0 is super cool and i love the lockscreen features but it uses SOO much ram, cm7 is also duper customizable and saves a butt load of battery life. just need some advice, thanks in advance

I ran iced glacier and royal glacier as they were very stable. But now I'm running faux's AOSP Tom and its my favorite so far. Everything works and its super stable.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

If you like asop nothings faster than Royal Ginger.

It's totally up to your preference. And it shouldn't be affected by RAM consumption - I can't remember how many times it was already said, let Android manage the RAM and stop looking at a number that won't give you absolutely anything, because you don't understand how Android RAM management works.
Personally, I believe Sense got it much better than pure AOSP/CM Android.
AOSP drawbacks:
Dialer is awful (can be fixed by DialerOne, but it's not a proper integration and has annoying quirks + slowness).
Mail is absolutely awful, and Exchange integration is generally bad (you can't pull phone contacts from corporate directory, for example).
Lockscreen isn't very functional (even CM-customized version isn't as useful as Sense 3.0 one, and definitely not as pretty).
Default widgets suck, and LauncherPro Plus costs money.
Probably forgot another couple of things - haven't been using AOSP for a LONG time.
But - there are people that these points don't matter for them, and they prefer the stock feeling. If you're one of them - then go for CM7. Choice is wonderful.

Jack_R1 said:
It's totally up to your preference. And it shouldn't be affected by RAM consumption - I can't remember how many times it was already said, let Android manage the RAM and stop looking at a number that won't give you absolutely anything, because you don't understand how Android RAM management works.
Personally, I believe Sense got it much better than pure AOSP/CM Android.
AOSP drawbacks:
Dialer is awful (can be fixed by DialerOne, but it's not a proper integration and has annoying quirks + slowness).
Mail is absolutely awful, and Exchange integration is generally bad (you can't pull phone contacts from corporate directory, for example).
Lockscreen isn't very functional (even CM-customized version isn't as useful as Sense 3.0 one, and definitely not as pretty).
Default widgets suck, and LauncherPro Plus costs money.
Probably forgot another couple of things - haven't been using AOSP for a LONG time.
But - there are people that these points don't matter for them, and they prefer the stock feeling. If you're one of them - then go for CM7. Choice is wonderful.
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some facts are true here but SENSE compared to CM/AOSP on speed, CM IS WAY FASTER....

bstylz911 said:
some facts are true here but SENSE compared to CM/AOSP on speed, CM IS WAY FASTER....
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No, not really.
When you open Dialer One on CM vs opening Sense dialer, the last one loads equally fast, but has all the pictures in place, and everything flows - while on Dialer One it doesn't.
The same with mail. And you can even zoom in/out in mail on Sense. Try that on CM.
The Sense launcher swipes just fine, and there's no custom launcher that can execute the 7 screen preview like the Sense launcher - when the zoom out is controlled completely by your fingers, and not by launcher presets.
When you open the app, the normal opening delay is insignificant on both.
So, where exactly CM is faster? In benchmarks? I could't care less about the meaningless numbers.

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No, not really.
When you open Dialer One on CM vs opening Sense dialer, the last one loads equally fast, but has all the pictures in place, and everything flows - while on Dialer One it doesn't.
The same with mail.
The launcher swipes fine, and there's no custom launcher that can execute the 7 screen preview like the Sense launcher - when the zoom out is controlled completely by your fingers, and not by launcher presets.
When you open the app, the normal opening delay is insignificant on both.
So, where exactly CM is faster? In benchmarks? I could't care less about the meaningless numbers.
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opening settings, programs it loads faster.

No, it doesn't. And where it does - I'm willing to pay the extra 1/10 second of loading for the quality of user experience.
This whole "CM/AOSP is faster" thing needs to be put in perspective.

Jack_R1 said:
No, it doesn't. And where it does - I'm willing to pay the extra 1/10 second of loading for the quality of user experience.
This whole "CM/AOSP is faster" thing needs to be put in perspective.
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and also, my phone would get laggy when using sense ROYAL PANACHE making me reboot my phone sometimes. and yes i have advance task manager to close my apps.
only thing i like about SENSE is the CAMERA.

Blame your task manager, the apps, the ROM. Sense has nothing to do with quirks that come as a result of porting ROMs with Sense from other phones. My wife runs almost original Sense, my friends run original Sense on their phones, not even one complains about lags. More, I'm not even sure my wife knows how to reboot her phone - I don't think she ever did.
And I didn't even start talking about CM bugs. Till 7.0.2 it was a disaster. I originally switched to Sense on Nexus because I wanted cut&paste, but didn't want the load of bugs that came with Gingerbread, and I was already frustrated by CM7 that had me rebooting more than once a day.
So, as I said earlier, choice is bliss. You can run CM/AOSP, I'll run Sense, someone will run MySense, and we'll all be happy. Just don't try to convince that your choice is the best - each has its pros and cons.

Sense 3.5/3.0 compared to 2.1

I am currently running NilsP Business Sense 2.1/3.0 and i was wondering what performence hit i'd take if i plunged straight to 3.5? I used early 3.0 ROMS and they were painfully slow.. I was wondering if they were the same now.

My 3.0 rom is fast. Just doesn't sound like there's a whole lot more to a 3.5 than a 3.0 so I couldn't tell you my experiance as far as speed with 3.5.
Nils Business gingersense 3.0 v2.1

Sorry, but ALL Sense 3.x ROMs drag sorry ass on this device. There's no way to get around it. The software is just too muscular for the device. You end up with a crazy amount of vm being used, and since NAND memory is some pretty slow stuff, the lag becomes something best measured in full seconds.

^^ what he said.
and anyone who claims their 3.0/3.5 roms run "super fast" and "lag free" must never have run a stock incredible lol because the stock inc is how this phone is supposed to run (sense 1.0)...sense 3 is waaaaaaay too laggy. the one thing that always pissed me off is the notification dropdown menu lag. sometimes it would take up to 5 seconds for mine to drop down, even when i was just idling doing nothing. very annoying.

The 3.5`s are pretty, but sloooooww comparably. Even with nothing added application wise, and overclocked, they lag. No reflection on the (any) developer, it's literally bunches more software for the device to attempt to utilize, when it's built for less.
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smtom said:
The 3.5`s are pretty, but sloooooww comparably. Even with nothing added application wise, and overclocked, they lag. No reflection on the (any) developer, it's literally bunches more software for the device to attempt to utilize, when it's built for less.
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Well, I will point the finger a little at the devs. As usual, it seems like the push is only for the latest and greatest, neglecting the upkeep of decent older ROMs with older Sense versions. In the past that hasn't been a real problem, but with the advent of Sense 3.0, finding regularly updated 2.1 and older ROMs is hard. At some point they NEED to realize that this device isn't a dInc2, Tbolt, or EVO 3D and cut the crap with Sense 3.x+. Sense 2.1 with some 3.0 elements really is about as far as it should go.

I thought Joel's Sense 3.0 ROM on this was crazy fast. Then I used a 3.0 ROM on my inc2. Big difference. At the stock clock speed my phone still has no lag on my current 3.5 ROM.

loonatik78 said:
Well, I will point the finger a little at the devs. As usual, it seems like the push is only for the latest and greatest, neglecting the upkeep of decent older ROMs with older Sense versions. In the past that hasn't been a real problem, but with the advent of Sense 3.0, finding regularly updated 2.1 and older ROMs is hard. At some point they NEED to realize that this device isn't a dInc2, Tbolt, or EVO 3D and cut the crap with Sense 3.x+. Sense 2.1 with some 3.0 elements really is about as far as it should go.
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Love it!
But what's this about we don't upkeep our older Roms? I try to keep at least my Hybrid Speed update. I've had six Roms publicly ported and released. Hybrid Speed was my second Rom. In fact Hybrid was the most recently updated, even updated after my Desired Inc Rom. People are still using Hybrid Speed and still leave nice comments and send nice PM's about how they like it, so I guess I'm doing something right there. Thanks to everyone who showed support for me and my Roms as well!
I think a major part of rom development is with these updates and everything, we can work on them and fix them up until there almost flawless. Once we have done that, the development for that Rom is pretty much done. Depending on how far the developer wants to take his rom. Well mods and everything else. Most of the time what mods are in my Roms when I release them is actually how I use them and how I have my own set up. I like to leave everything else up to those people who just use the Roms.
One thing I've noticed. All the older Androider's tend to find a Rom/Dev they really like and they stick with it. At this point in the game they KNOW what they want in a Rom and what to expect from Roms currently on the board. All the new guys like to flash everything under the sun. Just proves that just because [insert name here] releases Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile doesn't mean its the best choice for everybody. Its just that though, another choice.
Until then everybody should just continue using what they like and keep reporting bugs and always try to leave feedback and comments about what they like/hate about the Roms they use.
Man, I hope nobody thinks I actually have or am trying to make a point here. I'm just thinking out loud as usual.

wildstang83 said:
Love it!
But what's this about we don't upkeep our older Roms? I try to keep at least my Hybrid Speed update. I've had six Roms publicly ported and released. Hybrid Speed was my second Rom. In fact Hybrid was the most recently updated, even updated after my Desired Inc Rom. People are still using Hybrid Speed and still leave nice comments and send nice PM's about how they like it, so I guess I'm doing something right there. Thanks to everyone who showed support for me and my Roms as well!
I think a major part of rom development is with these updates and everything, we can work on them and fix them up until there almost flawless. Once we have done that, the development for that Rom is pretty much done. Depending on how far the developer wants to take his rom. Well mods and everything else. Most of the time what mods are in my Roms when I release them is actually how I use them and how I have my own set up. I like to leave everything else up to those people who just use the Roms.
One thing I've noticed. All the older Androider's tend to find a Rom/Dev they really like and they stick with it. At this point in the game they KNOW what they want in a Rom and what to expect from Roms currently on the board. All the new guys like to flash everything under the sun. Just proves that just because [insert name here] releases Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile doesn't mean its the best choice for everybody. Its just that though, another choice.
Until then everybody should just continue using what they like and keep reporting bugs and always try to leave feedback and comments about what they like/hate about the Roms they use.
Man, I hope nobody thinks I actually have or am trying to make a point here. I'm just thinking out loud as usual.
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I'm fairly dev-agnostic when it comes to ROMs these days. I'll check yours out. I seldom see the device for long periods of time but I've been flashing as many as I can looking for a good balance. I appreciate your input.

loonatik78 said:
I'm fairly dev-agnostic when it comes to ROMs these days. I'll check yours out. I seldom see the device for long periods of time but I've been flashing as many as I can looking for a good balance. I appreciate your input.
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Thanks.
Hope my nose doesn't turn to brown here, but I gotta say I always look forward to your comments and incite on things. Its always something good. I'm nervous that your gonna try my Rom even, lol. But for real I hope you like it. And as always, I look forward to your 'real' input on it.

Well, I'm running on a 3.5 Sense Rom from SD card.
There was a huge eating of memory, until I installed AutoKiller which allows you to edit the limits of ram and on an aggressive profile, the Rom is now very well usable.
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Tzatlacael said:
Well, I'm running on a 3.5 Sense Rom from SD card.
There was a huge eating of memory, until I installed AutoKiller which allows you to edit the limits of ram and on an aggressive profile, the Rom is now very well usable.
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Why would you run 3.5 from the SD? That's gotta be really slow. I'd probably run something like OMGB or CM from SD but leave 3.5 on the system.

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Why would you run 3.5 from the SD? That's gotta be really slow. I'd probably run something like OMGB or CM from SD but leave 3.5 on the system.
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I run it from the SD because I'm still figuring out how to install on NAND and I'm also unable to sync with my PC :S
So for now I'm at SD and its my daily ROM. Besides the DATA image is 1GB size and with that ran tweak, its very stable.
although I'd prefer it on NAND...
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Tzatlacael said:
I run it from the SD because I'm still figuring out how to install on NAND and I'm also unable to sync with my PC :S
So for now I'm at SD and its my daily ROM. Besides the DATA image is 1GB size and with that ran tweak, its very stable.
although I'd prefer it on NAND...
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Are you using Conap's Boot Manager?

I this k many of the left over issues present in these roms aren't necessarily the dev abandoning it, but rather they can't fix it, either because it would take too much time or they don't know how/can't figure it out. MMS over Wifi is a big one on the 2.1/3.0 hybrids. I've seen many devs try to fix it but they just can't.
Like Stang said, once a rom reaches Nearly Flawless state, which is everything is fixed minus the persistent issues across all similar based roms, its development is completed. These people don't get paid to sit for hours to make every little thing work on our phone.
I think this fact causes frustration among users, that life isn't kittens and rainbows and we can't have the latest and greatest working like a champ on our aging hardware. Its not the devs fault guys.
Choose CM7 or a sense 1.0 rom if you want stability and speed. Anything else will always have little issues that frustrate you.
As for me, I like to use one of these newer roms until I get frustrated by these little issues, then go back to CM7/1.0, then once I'm bored with that I go back to a newer sense rom... Rinse and repeat
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ok, so I'm running a 3.0 sense rom in the Nils rom I have. There is no lag between home sections. (I don't have the 3d tilt accelerometer feature on of course) and as for the pull down, I will agree, sometimes it does lag, but I hardly ever use the pull down anyway, and my case doesn't make it easy to pull down anyway. I usually go through the menu button/notifications to have the pull down come down. Other than that...what lag is this you speak of? I also don't run a live wallpaper very much in order to help out the battery life a little as well. So maybe thats where some lag people are speaking of is being caused?
Maybe its just me, but I'm not experiancing heavy lag with my 3.0 rom and I am even running the latest kernel. I will agree however, if you want the fastest most optimized rom for a dinc, then get a stock rom of course. But the 3.0 rom I'm running is running smooth.

I'm Running Nil's Sense 3.5, and I love it!!
(if you have tried other Roms, make sure you follow his whole wipe guide in his Sense 3.5 post 1)
I love the speed of this rom! If you are happy with 3.0, stick with it, but I love the way the email looks and works in 3.5 (it's a little snappier, and allows for more customization)
While his 3.0 was pretty fast, I find 3.5 to be just that much faster.
Plus, gets even faster if you use Tiny's Kernel!
but when you compare either 3.0 or 3.5 against 1.0... 1.0 just sucks!

wildstang83 said:
[insert name here] released Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile.
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I searched everywhere and couldn't find it. Link, please?

PonsAsinorem said:
I searched everywhere and couldn't find it. Link, please?
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Sure its right here, lol--->

I'm using Nils 3.5, and while there is some lag here and there, its a good, stable, and fairly snappy ROM. I also have V6 Supercharger (way aggressive) and the GingerTiny kernel, and that helps.
Maybe I'm just not expecting as much...I knew it would be slower than stock, but I feel its worth it for the enhancements.
But, to each his (or her!) own.
Sent from my Droid Inc - GingerSense style!

HTC says Sense is bloated

Has anyone seen this ? http://gizmodo.com/5889560/htc-sense-ui-was-bloated-and-cluttered
I take this as a big, Big, BIG chance towards a fully functioning, and most importantly - SMOOTH Sense One V port for our precious Desire Z which we all love.
What do you think? Do you expect awesomistic difference in performance compared to Sense 3.5 or do you think the difference will be minor, if at all?
I for one am very optimistic regarding this!

Huh that's interesting, good post!

yeah, i saw this before coming here, was going to post the same thing, lol. I agree with OP, i think this should make for a very nice and smooth port!! Looking forward to it

So, we should have a smooth one s port right? Since its debloated and runs with hardware acceleration, it should be smoother then sense 3.5

I think probably anything could be smoother and more usable than Sense 3.* on our devices xD. Sure, the UI transitions and animations and scrolling might be smooth, but no matter which Sense ROM you choose, there will always be a great deficit in app performance in comparison to AOSP, CM or MIUI ROMs.
Either way though, i'm still hoping that we can get a smooth One V port *fingers crossed*

As HTC said, Sense 4.0 is more about „personalizing” the devices, not about removing everything AOSP and redrawing it Sense-style.
I love HTC's new simple market strategy. From hardware to software. It really does justice to their motto - „Quietly Brilliant”!

My reaction:

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Either way though, i'm still hoping that we can get a smooth One V port *fingers crossed*
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Sense 4.0 on DZ
I really doubt Sense 4.0 will run smoothly on our DZ. Even when i used many sense 3.5 roms on my DZ it starts lagging after some amount of time. Used SDcard swap, supercharger and all the tweaks but was never satisfied with the performance. But as per reviews HTC has really toned down Sense with ICS so lets hope for the best.

Well, I believe theoretically it is possible and I hope soon HTC will prove us again that it is possible even practically.
cant wait

What would be nice is if they would nix all remnants of that sense crap. It doesn't add anything, it was 100% pure pain in the ass. Death by fire is what sense deserves, and everyone who promoted it, worked on it, or was in any way involved in the decision making regarding it, should be included.

dhkr234 said:
What would be nice is if they would nix all remnants of that sense crap. It doesn't add anything, it was 100% pure pain in the ass. Death by fire is what sense deserves, and everyone who promoted it, worked on it, or was in any way involved in the decision making regarding it, should be included.
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It looks pretty. For some

dhkr234 said:
What would be nice is if they would nix all remnants of that sense crap. It doesn't add anything, it was 100% pure pain in the ass. Death by fire is what sense deserves, and everyone who promoted it, worked on it, or was in any way involved in the decision making regarding it, should be included.
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Don't be so harsh. I for one get why some of you love AOSP, but seriously, until ICS, AOSP sucked UI-wise. Although 4.0 solved many of the look problems, Sense still adds some cool functionality such as the configurable shortcut lockscreen, a cool music player, and the overall HTC feel that I personally love way more than AOSP or Miui or any other interface.
And believe me, I have tried practically each and every single ROM that I could get my hands onto, and I found myself going back to Sense, in any of it's incarnations ( 2.1, 3.0, 3.5) each and every time.
True, Sense 3.x feels bloated, but HTC said that they are basically going back to v2 with Sense 4.0, so I am looking forward to the new interface.

bogdan5844 said:
Don't be so harsh.
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Seriously. With custom ROMs, you can get what you want, whether it be Sense, AOSP, or something else. And plenty of people like Sense. No need to get your panties all in a tangle, if you don't.