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Is there a working 2.1 ROM for the G1 which has Live Wallpapers with minimal battery drain and also something close to running at a fast speed with GPS/camera/maps/streetview etc all working?
At the moment I'm using SuperEclair V8.2 by XxKOLOHExX and it's fine and all, but the system slows down to the point of becoming near unusable when Live Wallpapers are on - not to mention the huge battery drain. Are there any ROMs which have such issues corrected?
Thanks in advance~
I'm using superD 1.6. I would change to 2.1 if there was something as fast as 1.6. I have yet to see an eclair rom to match the speed of donut.
It's been a while since I've used a 2.1 rom, but when I did, I didnt notice any battery loss from the live wallpapers. From what I know, live wallpapers doesn't even run when your phone is off/sleeping. LWP's turn back on when your phone comes back on, so it's not constantly running.
edit: That didnt really answer your question =)
Macmee said:
I'm using superD 1.6. I would change to 2.1 if there was something as fast as 1.6. I have yet to see an eclair rom to match the speed of donut.
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Hmm yeah that's true - I don't mind if it's not as fast as donut, just as long as it's not really really slow. The 2.1 ROM I was using had great features but it was just too laggy for me.
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edit: That didnt really answer your question =)
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Nah but now I know a little more. Thanks!
Any other 2.1 ROM suggestions?
hmmm... i used open eclair for a bit, had NO problems whatsoever... but i didnt use live wallpapers
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open eclair
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open eclair
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+1 for Open Eclair. I used it for my everyday rom for months with no problems. Recently switched back to SuperD out of boredom though.
Ohhh, cool. Looks like Open Eclair is the best way to go. Thanks!
latest open eclair or kingklick's ASOP 2.1 v1.9
Cannon 1.2 with 3d patch 2.0 is fully of fc.
SuperEclair v2.4 or v3.0 I suggest v2.4 with Extended Pack.
Kolehe beta 3.0 Rom. I bet theres no Eclair rom faster. flash and see for yourself. But no LWP's though. And you shouldnt be asking for a fast eclair that has minimal battery drain and complain about something slowing down and your using LWP's.
OpenEclair 1.3.0.1 is very feature-complete, stable and the "no 3D" version is fast enough for daily use. The 3D version though is slow. I've missed several phone calls because it takes that long for the phone to wake up and show caller ID.
The OpenEclair devs are promising improvements on that front in the upcoming 2.0 version, so I'd try that out when it becomes available.
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OpenEclair 1.3.0.1 is very feature-complete, stable and the "no 3D" version is fast enough for daily use. The 3D version though is slow. I've missed several phone calls because it takes that long for the phone to wake up and show caller ID.
The OpenEclair devs are promising improvements on that front in the upcoming 2.0 version, so I'd try that out when it becomes available.
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is there anything that does not work yet in OpenEclair, such as video capture, camera, SMS, etc?
I have an original MT3G (using Cyanogen right now) if that makes any difference.
Sorry because of the extremely late reply man :S but...
I think you DEFINITELY have to try this ROM if you wanna know what's speed and reliability. It's based off the official aosp ota for the mt3g (my touch 3g) and tweaked out to run flawlessly on the G1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811620
I highly recommend it
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Sorry because of the extremely late reply man :S but...
I think you DEFINITELY have to try this ROM if you wanna know what's speed and reliability. It's based off the official aosp ota for the mt3g (my touch 3g) and tweaked out to run flawlessly on the G1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811620
I highly recommend it
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HI!
Awesome!!! I'm thinking about change phone because it's too laggy but this ROM makes all the diference! Thanks for the suggestion.
Now i only have two questions because i had Cyanogenmod and it has Power Control in the status bar like the samsung galaxy i think and i can also change the number of lines and collumns my desktop has, and chage the weight of the widgets.
Anyone knows what can i do to make that things work in this version?
THANKS!!!
rafaelrfq said:
Sorry because of the extremely late reply man :S but...
I think you DEFINITELY have to try this ROM if you wanna know what's speed and reliability. It's based off the official aosp ota for the mt3g (my touch 3g) and tweaked out to run flawlessly on the G1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811620
I highly recommend it
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I can't wait for someone to reply to this thread in six months time and be all 'Dude, you gotta check out this honeycomb ROM, it runs amazing on the G1!!' and everyone else will be all 'lulwut?'.
Have had Super-E, but changed to BiffMod.
BiffMod is faster on my G1.
Greetings
Braaaaiiiiiings.... mmmmm... BRAIIIINS!!!
The one I have now is blazing fast, I use from cm4 to cm6 and this thing maybe best so far I have use, no fc and bs since I got it, fancy looks but still maintain good speed. But not sure about juice, my battery is extended one like 3.7 VDC 3000m monster battery so it still last me good 10hr+ even everything is on......
Waiting for good sense mod. ;-)
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Is there anyone else out there who can't wait to root this phone and get Sense off of it?
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Is there anyone else out there who can't wait to root this phone and get Sense off of it?
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I went from liking it, to hating it, now I'm back to liking it agian, but that's just me.
Simple solution, disable it, if you can't disable it, get a homescreen replacement from the market. As for the other apps like the keyboards and messenger apps and stuff there's alternatives for those as well.
Other than modifying or adding internal background stuff (editing the kernel or low level services) I don't see any reason why you really need root anymore. At least not for my needs anyway.
I am a big fan of AOSP but that seems like it's the only advantage in my eyes to having root nowadays, everything else can be done with crafty market apps.
Talk to me agian after the next upgrade to android is all the rage, you will see me with my foot in my mouth for sure =P
I can see myself turning off many of the gizmos and widgets in that Sense thing. Too much junk running.
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I can see myself turning off many of the gizmos and widgets in that Sense thing. Too much junk running.
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I take it that you haven't played with the hero or anything like that?
go to a sprint store and try it out, finding ways to disable it is much easier than trying to add it in if you want it. Those that don't have it pre-installed want it, those that do have it want it gone.
The problem most people hated it was because it slowed down the hero, it runs at half the speed and half the ram approximately of the evo, it really shouldn't be a problem and it's just eye candy, and the benefits of having it outweigh the problem of it being on there by default. It's mainly just a grass is greener thing mostly.
The widgets can be easily removed from the home screen by a simple one time hold+drag.
I'm not the only one in these parts with an HD2, but I assure you WinMo 6.5(x) runs sense fast and smooth. If Android is as fast as I believe, sense will not be a deal breaker....or as previously stated, just turn it off.
No idea what you hate about it. What do you all think is running in the background that you're all so concerned about? The widgets? It's not like stock Android doesn't have them either.
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I love Sense UI ...
I like it. It makes SENSE
I love how some quantify something they haven't experienced on the actual phone itself yet.
It's like saying I hate playing a 3D game that runs on a 2D graphics card with a slow experience and lag. WELL DUH!
I have the new sense ui on my nexus one and its 10x faster then wm version.
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The widgets can be easily removed from the home screen by a simple one time hold+drag.
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Yeah, that's what I meant.
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I'm not the only one in these parts with an HD2, but I assure you WinMo 6.5(x) runs sense fast and smooth. If Android is as fast as I believe, sense will not be a deal breaker....or as previously stated, just turn it off.
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I'm with you on this... I too have an HD2 and it runs Sence as smooth as silk.
My Brother has the Desire and it too with Sence slides along very nicely.
I'm not saying I hate sense UI because when i've used it it ran slow or because i couldn't figure it out. I don't like it because of how it's layed out, the configuration of it does not fit me. If I can change it or disable it, I will be a happy person.
Personally I couldn't care less. Sense or no Sense. I think it looks nice and all but I'm a hacker bred from the Cyanogen camp. I love speed and Sense just slows things down. I am sure on a 1Ghz device with 512MB RAM it should run without any lag. I'm still an AOSP fan however and hope we don't run into the kernel issues with this device as we are with the Hero. On the Hero we are still running .27 or .29 for those who want the canmera. I feel ancient!
I have the hero with Android 2.1 ROM
It has weaker hardware.. less memory.. slower CPU
I have sense and live wallpaper running at the same time
It is perfect.. smooth... fast.. beautiful.. everything works.
I can not imagine the evo having any issues with sense or any software!
I love sense and all it gives me
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I have the hero with Android 2.1 ROM
It has weaker hardware.. less memory.. slower CPU
I have sense and live wallpaper running at the same time
It is perfect.. smooth... fast.. beautiful.. everything works.
I can not imagine the evo having any issues with sense or any software!
I love sense and all it gives me
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But stock 1.5 isn't exactly smooth, even the 2.1 isn't quite buttery smooth, the custom roms are, but I don't think with that much power behind it that it will be a problem, and just think what will happen when xda gets their hands on it
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Personally I couldn't care less. Sense or no Sense. I think it looks nice and all but I'm a hacker bred from the Cyanogen camp. I love speed and Sense just slows things down. I am sure on a 1Ghz device with 512MB RAM it should run without any lag. I'm still an AOSP fan however and hope we don't run into the kernel issues with this device as we are with the Hero. On the Hero we are still running .27 or .29 for those who want the canmera. I feel ancient!
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hope the whole camp jump's on this one i prefer aosp over senseless anyday of the week i install the widgets i want on my device don't need htc or sprint's bloated ****gets taking up valuable memory space
The reason sense slows things down is because they have been stuffing it on two year old devices with barely an acceptable amount of storage and ram. The new devices from the evo and incredible don't see these issues because the extra ten megs is nothing where on the regular hero makes a big difference as you start opening up more and more ****.
It will be a non issue on the evo. If you prefer asop all the more power to you I also like it but the largest complaints against sense are going to be obsolete soon enough now that devices actually have more horse power and memory.
i looooovvvee sense ui..had it on my g1, htc magic, hero, nexus one, and soon to be evo 4g
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Lets hope one of the first custom roms is for AOSP. I am running an AOSP build on my hero and I LOVE it!
I'm looking forward to it. I love it on my buddies hero. Just makes android that much better.
Upon immediately turning on the device I'm overwhelmed. Everything is so open, so free, and I get a good signal everywhere I go. First thing I did was download advanced task killer and Facebook, but now I have no idea what to do except find a nice wallpaper and rearrange some widgets and icons. If I were to go with a 2.0 ROM, what are some outstanding differences compared to 1.5?
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Upon immediately turning on the device I'm overwhelmed. Everything is so open, so free, and I get a good signal everywhere I go. First thing I did was download advanced task killer and Facebook, but now I have no idea what to do except find a nice wallpaper and rearrange some widgets and icons. If I were to go with a 2.0 ROM, what are some outstanding differences compared to 1.5?
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First, remove task killer. Android does it on its own, and if you root and load a rom I think most of them have an adjustable memory manager now hacked into the kernel.
Second, have fun.
Third, 2.1 isn't a HUGE deal over 1.5 just some new apps available in the market, multi-touch additions...over all feel is the same though.
2.1 also incorporates bluetooth file transfer and most the roms here have the option for live wallpapers, apps 2 sd, and 2 roms now allow overclocking.....super fast. Take the leap......root and enjoy 2.1 but please research, research, research.
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2and 2 roms now allow overclocking....
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Correction, 3 roms are overclocked But really, 2.1 is just better. I don't know really how to explain it. Better market app, better apps in market, and i've felt that it has been much more stable for me. With the exception of Gumbo 1.5c, I also felt that 1.5 roms were running a little slower for me...
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Upon immediately turning on the device I'm overwhelmed. Everything is so open, so free, and I get a good signal everywhere I go. First thing I did was download advanced task killer and Facebook, but now I have no idea what to do except find a nice wallpaper and rearrange some widgets and icons. If I were to go with a 2.0 ROM, what are some outstanding differences compared to 1.5?
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I just switched from my 3GS about a month and a half ago, and I still have a hard time believing how open and free the OS is. That and the service (10 dropped calls a day ring a bell?) were the reasons I switched, besides getting on a Sprint Advantage Plan for $35 / month.
I think I had the phone for about 24 hours before rooting it. Once I did, I tried out some custom 1.5 roms, and they were pretty good.
Then I checked out Fresh 2.0d, which is 2.1 based, and thought... Hey, this is really cool! More app selections, better performance, etc.
Only recently did I decide that having Sense (All the pretty widgets and stuff) was unnecessary and took up too much memory. So I took the plunge into Fresh Toast 1.1, (Fresh 2.0d based) which not only has EXT4 support and overclocking (almost double stock speed) built into the kernel, but has the ability to use swap (virtual memory on your SD Card), JIT (just in time compiler, runs your kernel at a higher rate = faster process / compilation speed, about a 1.5 MFOPS increase... but it does kill sense) and A2SD (installing apps to an ext partition on your SD Card). I've got all these running, and my HTC Hero is now just as fast (most of the time) as my 3GS was.
Hope I was helpful, from one now-apple-hater to another.
PS - if youre hating Apple's closed source platform as much as me and have a personal vendetta (also like me) against them, you should check out this thread for some anti-apple bootscreens.
2.1 And It's Speed
W/ 2.1 you'll notice a huge jump in speed. You'll see transitions are a lot faster and smoother with a lot of apps opening quicker as well. Def something you should try out.
go for root!
welcome to andriod!
if you enjoy how open your phone is now just wait until you root your phone. superuser permission rocks. i love being able to open a terminal and see all of the stuff under the hood. rooting will give you a good recovery where you can easily back up your rom, try new roms and always be able to go back to the one you are most comfortable with.
also... wifi tethering rocks! favorite coffee shop doesnt have free wifi? no problem!
cheers and best of luck!
ryan
Hey all. I also just switched from my 3GS to the Hero a couple of days ago. I know that PPTP VPN support was intruduced with 2.1 but was wondering if anyone had actually tried it on cooked 2.1. Before the hero I tried the Samsung Moment and loaded a 2.1 ROM but VPN was broken.
Happy Rooting! I second the WiFi tether. Greatest invention since sliced bread
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Third, 2.1 isn't a HUGE deal over 1.5 just some new apps available in the market, multi-touch additions...over all feel is the same though.
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WHAT!
I went from an iPhone to a Pre, and decided hey let me try Android 1.5 (this was way before the 2.1 leak) I absolutely hated it, I didn't like having 1 gmail account that would sync I wanted all of them. Multi-Touch, BT transfer, BT phonebook, Wi-Fi on while in Airplane mode(I really need this, and the apps out there don't work quite as well as it does in 2.1) and much much more. I really can't stand 1.5 or 1.6 for that matter. 2.0 and above for me.
If it wasn't for these leaks I'd still be rocking my Pre.
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WHAT!
I went from an iPhone to a Pre, and decided hey let me try Android 1.5 (this was way before the 2.1 leak) I absolutely hated it, I didn't like having 1 gmail account that would sync I wanted all of them. Multi-Touch, BT transfer, BT phonebook, Wi-Fi on while in Airplane mode(I really need this, and the apps out there don't work quite as well as it does in 2.1) and much much more. I really can't stand 1.5 or 1.6 for that matter. 2.0 and above for me.
If it wasn't for these leaks I'd still be rocking my Pre.
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i agree with him
now that i have 2.1 on my phone im actually happier with its features than when it was 1.5.
For me, I just love the new market. For some reason, that's the only reason I like 1.6+ over 1.5-.
Just wondering what your thoughts are. I like them both, so hopefully you can all help me make a decision.
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*if option to customize lock screen exists, HUGE plus
*I'll probably overclock / use SetCPU, so good balance of performance / battery is huge for me.
Duke it out!
I've had experience with both, virtuous is nice but CM is so much faster. It is also nice to have Android the way it was meant to be and not some companies highly modded version.
Sense uses quite a lot of memory whereas CM does not and this makes a big difference with how responsive your phone can be.
I've been using CM 7.0 Nightlies for quite a while now and the speed is awesome, plus I also like the fact that it's Android the way it should be. Battery is great for me with Cyanogen as well, about 26-30 hours with average usage (stock battery).
Having had experience with Cyanogen-based ROMs on my previous Hero and Virtuous on my current DZ, i am actually torn. For me, personally, I would have to give the edge to Virtuous. Having the wide customizability of CM was great and having LauncherPRO was so flexible. That being said, however, I like how HTC's Sense just gets you and assumes many of the things you would like to do instead of you doing it yourself.
One example would be facebook linking to your contacts. I hate seeing a generic photo when I get calls and would rather see the picture of the person calling. Having this kind of assumed integration is great. Other features like the dialer, working GPS and rmk's other small tweaks (see: Virtuous advanced kernel for use with SetCPU) make the Sense experience that much better.
On the otherhand, AOSP or CM versions of android are much lighter as they dont have the kind of assumptions and integrations of a Sense-based rom. Being highly customizable, you can implement different launchers, skins, lock screens, docks, etc.. but I did find myself cursing at some points because I am just a Sense kind of guy deep inside.
It really comes down to personal preference. Try them both for a week and see how you feel about them. Alot of people have been saying Virtuous is laggy, but I have not seen any of that lag. As with all flashes, clear data, cache, battery and davlik through recovery! Have fun and i hope you find the rom that fits you.
Sent from my Virtuous Desire Z 1.0.1 using XDA App
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Having had experience with Cyanogen-based ROMs on my previous Hero and Virtuous on my current DZ, i am actually torn. For me, personally, I would have to give the edge to Virtuous. Having the wide customizability of CM was great and having LauncherPRO was so flexible. That being said, however, I like how HTC's Sense just gets you and assumes many of the things you would like to do instead of you doing it yourself.
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Sense is definitely nice, and it's something that easily sets HTC devices apart from the pack. That being said, I'm much more of an AOSP kind of guy, because as nice and pretty as Sense is, it just takes up too much RAM for my liking, and the launcher is just not customizable enough for me. Having only 3 buttons at the bottom absolutely drives me nuts; I've got to have the scrolling bottom row like Go Launcher and Launcher Pro provide. Obviously you can use these on a Sense rom, but what's the point in having a Sense rom when you don't use the Sense launcher? For me it boils down to this, and I'm sure the many other features that Cyanogenmod has that I use on a daily basis. I haven't used Virtuous since I got the phone in October, so I'm sure there's more stuff on it now than before, but I'm definitely a Cyanogenmod kind of guy. Plus there are roms based off Cyanogen, like Mexdroid, that add all kinds of pretty and additional functionality that I like.
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but what's the point in having a Sense rom when you don't use the Sense launcher?
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The HTC camera app is far better than on CM, and the camera button does not lag like it does on CM. And I'm not completely sure about this (and haven't really seen it discussed here much), but it seems the Sense based ROMs have more/better hardware codecs for playback of a wider variety of videos without lag or sync issues. Also, the Sense fastboot feature is pretty nice if you have to turn off/on your phone frequently (which I do, due to frequent air travel).
I haven't given the latest and greatest CM7 versions a test drive yet, but I tried RC1 and RC2, and there were still enough bugs (GPS, video camera playback) to turn me off. I might wait until Gingerbread is officially released for our hardware before trying a GB ROM again.
For a daily, I would pick CM7 since it's quick and I'm pretty much guaranteed a full day of usage no matter what.
Virtuous, Sense, is nice and all, but the lag is a deal breaker for me. The only perks I see from Sense is the refined UI and better FaceBook integration, other than that, I don't really need it. And the battery life on Sense roms seems to be half of what I get on CM7.
CM7, stock android, is catching up though, with Gingerbread the UI has been given a cleaner look and my contacts do sync with FaceBook, but every now and then I'll have a duplicate contact, which in Sense it would allow me to link the two together. The only problem I would see with CM7 would be all of the customization options. I'd say that I'm an above average Android user, but all of the options I have available to me to customize the phone look is a bit overwhelming, in my opinion. It takes me a good hour or two to get the phone set up in a way I prefer, whereas Sense kind of has it's settings put in such a way that creates a better user experience.
So as I said before, CM7 would be my preferred ROM since when I do get it set up the way I want, the phone is easy to use and everything is quickly accessible to me. Virtuous, as nice as it is, is just a bit too slow and too much of a battery drainer for me to use it every day.
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The HTC camera app is far better than on CM, and the camera button does not lag like it does on CM. And I'm not completely sure about this (and haven't really seen it discussed here much), but it seems the Sense based ROMs have more/better hardware codecs for playback of a wider variety of videos without lag or sync issues. Also, the Sense fastboot feature is pretty nice if you have to turn off/on your phone frequently (which I do, due to frequent air travel).
I haven't given the latest and greatest CM7 versions a test drive yet, but I tried RC1 and RC2, and there were still enough bugs (GPS, video camera playback) to turn me off. I might wait until Gingerbread is officially released for our hardware before trying a GB ROM again.
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So what about using CM6? Isn't that a Froyo build?
If so, is it just lacking in features compared to the Gingerbread builds?
As a side note, can anyone tell me if CM has some sort of Facebook-to-Contact link like Sense? And if so, is it actually nice and doesn't load my entire phone app full of people I will never ever call? LoL
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As a side note, can anyone tell me if CM has some sort of Facebook-to-Contact link like Sense? And if so, is it actually nice and doesn't load my entire phone app full of people I will never ever call? LoL
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There is an app called contapps or something like that on market that has similar facebook to contact integration.
Speed = CM or CM based (GingerVillian)
Ease of use = Sense based (Virtuous)
It is really boiling down to personal preference. I did find myself jumping between AOSP and Sense before but could never really shake my love for Sense. The slight bloat and 0.001% lag that i experience is a good price to pay . I hope you find the rom that fits you, whatever that may be
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So what about using CM6? Isn't that a Froyo build?
If so, is it just lacking in features compared to the Gingerbread builds?
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Yep, pretty much. CM6 is very stable. But for me, if you're going to go Froyo, you may as well go Sense. I like the extra features, and you can use an alternative launcher, since the lag on the Sense ROMs is mostly when using the stock launcher, IMO. And I didn't seem to experience any worse battery life with Sense ROMs versus CM7, like a previous user mentioned. But I didn't stay on CM6 long enough to compare battery life. Plus, the theming aesthetics of the Sense ROM and Gingerbread are nicer than Froyo, in my personal taste.
Actually there is also a sense gingerbread out accurately named 'senseginger' made by teamvillain aswell. It is very good. It is the middleground of froyo sense and stock gingerbread.
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CM is a lot smoother and simple.
The sense part on Virtuous takes up toooo much memory and slows the phone down, but the widgets are nice.
Android always comes down to user preference. You want a suggestion? Try both. And give it a good week. Even if you HATE it at first, give it a good while before deciding against it. You may find that once little aspect that will keep you from ever changing.
Me personally, I like CM7 over any sense based rom hands down. With the new gingerbread based cm7 I can easily link all of my facebook contacts with the ones in my contact list. If at first the picture doesn't show up, make sure you have the facebook app to sync all and then just long press your contact and join it to the facebook one. Boom, instant gratification. I personally rely on my ram being free, and the ability to overclock smoothly for playing ps one emulators. SetCpu has been known to cause glitches in cm7 for underclocking or overclocking too much, but as long as you do a minimal amount of research for your setup, it is easily avoided. As some others previously stated, it's all dependant on your preference and what you use your phone for. Try them both for a week at least, then decide, that's the best advice I could give
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My first experience with a ROM was CM7 RC1-4 and a few days ago I was bored and installed Virtuous and it's not bad but I definitely prefer CM7, it's way faster and smoother. The main reason I got the G2 was because it's Vanilla Android and CM7 has it all!
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Main question: do you like Sense or no? I've tried miui, virtuous, gb sense, etc. I always go back to cm7. Just smoother.
Virtuous (and all sense roms I've tried) send blurry MMSs as well.
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I like sense so i have virtuos, cm7 has too many bugs for me, maybe the last release is better!
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I like sense so i have virtuos, cm7 has too many bugs for me, maybe the last release is better!
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What kind of bugs? I haven't found any.
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What kind of bugs? I haven't found any.
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On Camcorder, taking a video landscape, then trying to playback in portrait mode results in the screen showing white and blue lines. Same with taking the video in portrait and trying to playback while in landscape mode.
Also, there is a Gmail margin problem. And there is a decent amount of people with non-GPS (although probably most CM users are fine on this).
But similar to the previous response, I have not tried the more recent CM releases, to see if these were fixed.
As others have said, it comes down to personal preferences. I've come to like Sense recently and am really liking the amazing standby times I've been getting with Virtuous, so I'm sticking with that for a bit. After a couple releases I may look into CM7 again, though, since I miss the customizable automatic brightness levels it has (a little feature that is a big deal to me).
Its for my father's HD2, Windows Mobile is pretty much useless nowadays, and he loves the Voice Search feature on my Evo 3D. Its going to be a NAND rom, not booting from SD, that would be too annoying for him to use.
Thing is, there are only about 1000 roms for this thing....... even dozens of versions of Cyanogen.
And on top of that, I don't know how well some of the custom roms with Sense 2.0 or 3.0 would work, or if any are missing hardware support.
I understand you lose performance if you add-on alternate UIs like sense, but how big is the performance hit? Hes not going to be playing high-end 3D games or performing protein folding or anything on the thing, so as long as the performance loss doesn't hit the "Phone becomes laggy, input lags, and it takes forever to load anything" range, I would actually prefer a sense based rom than one without.
Again, I am doing this for someone that isn't TOO technical, though no stranger to computers either, so I don't need a rom packed full of overclocking and root tweaking options (though a rooted rom would still be preferred).
So then, are there any good Sense 3.0 roms for the HD2 available? Got any you recommend? Do they still support all of the phone's hardware?
If not, what would be your next choice? Is there much point in using Sense 2.0 over vanilla android other than the extra sense widgets which he would probably not care about? Sense 3.0 does have the looping home screens and the very functional lock screen that I know he would find useful.
Thanks, I know a lot of people ask for recommendations, but after searching for roms for days and basically flying blind in the "maybe this one will be good, its got a lot of people installing it" category I could really use some advice, especially for a Sense 3.0 rom... if they exist.
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Its for my father's HD2, Windows Mobile is pretty much useless nowadays, and he loves the Voice Search feature on my Evo 3D. Its going to be a NAND rom, not booting from SD, that would be too annoying for him to use.
Thing is, there are only about 1000 roms for this thing....... even dozens of versions of Cyanogen.
And on top of that, I don't know how well some of the custom roms with Sense 2.0 or 3.0 would work, or if any are missing hardware support.
I understand you lose performance if you add-on alternate UIs like sense, but how big is the performance hit? Hes not going to be playing high-end 3D games or performing protein folding or anything on the thing, so as long as the performance loss doesn't hit the "Phone becomes laggy, input lags, and it takes forever to load anything" range, I would actually prefer a sense based rom than one without.
Again, I am doing this for someone that isn't TOO technical, though no stranger to computers either, so I don't need a rom packed full of overclocking and root tweaking options (though a rooted rom would still be preferred).
So then, are there any good Sense 3.0 roms for the HD2 available? Got any you recommend? Do they still support all of the phone's hardware?
If not, what would be your next choice? Is there much point in using Sense 2.0 over vanilla android other than the extra sense widgets which he would probably not care about? Sense 3.0 does have the looping home screens and the very functional lock screen that I know he would find useful.
Thanks, I know a lot of people ask for recommendations, but after searching for roms for days and basically flying blind in the "maybe this one will be good, its got a lot of people installing it" category I could really use some advice, especially for a Sense 3.0 rom... if they exist.
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If you really want sense, go for a dhd sense 3 rom (Runnymede Sense 3.5 works well on mine), and if you really want looping homescreens, install launcherpro on any rom of your choice.
BUT I'd recommend a cm7/miui rom because in the end, it's still slow.
Linkies:
- Typhoon
- Dorimanx
- DHD Sense 3 - Dungphp
Moon2 said:
If you really want sense, go for a dhd sense 3 rom (Runnymede Sense 3.5 works well on mine), and if you really want looping homescreens, install launcherpro on any rom of your choice.
BUT I'd recommend a cm7/miui rom because in the end, it's still slow.
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Not a fan of Sense 3.5 over 3.0 personally.
And just how slow is it compared to CM7? I mean, I understand CM7 will be faster than a sense rom, even CM7 with sense hacked in, but as long as its not laggy or sluggish thats fine, I don't need it to break benchmark records and run the latest 3d software.
I really like the sense 3.X roms... and i don't find them THAT slow (i have a DHD).
But that god damn graphic glitch is anoying, and i'm not going to disable GPU rendering of sense to get it working without glitches... must wait
daedric said:
I really like the sense 3.X roms... and i don't find them THAT slow (i have a DHD).
But that god damn graphic glitch is anoying, and i'm not going to disable GPU rendering of sense to get it working without glitches... must wait
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Im new to NAND HD2, but not new to the HD2 ( sold my 1st one, just got another the other day ) but I just flashed my first Android NAND ROM and I noticed all thse graphic glitches, i thought it was something else. But apparently its a common problem for everyone? No fix Im assuming.
Anyways im curious what you mean by DHD?
GHetting to performance, HD2 isnt bad at all! Im old time Android owner going back to the G1 and myTouch 3G.If you wanna see degraded performance try flashing a Sense rom on a G1 or 32B device. OWwwo
Well I can recommend Rafdroid rom. Its Sense2 stock froyo. Works mostly well.
So, did they ever fix those graphic glitches people keep complaning about?
MIUI builds are very slick, very impressive on the HD2, can't imagine it being any slicker or faster as there seems to be zero lag whatsoever.
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So, did they ever fix those graphic glitches people keep complaning about?
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there are roundabout fixes yes
I have the same question (which ROM to use?) but this post still doesnt not give me a clear answer. I have been using Mikhei777 sense 3.0 version (original) but it has lots of lag and is fairly sluggish. He has upgraded it a few times but now seems to be spending more time on the sense 3.5 version. Its my wifes phone so do not want to keep trying new versions. Just want someone to recommend a known good stable version...
Thanks
rzw said:
I have the same question (which ROM to use?) but this post still doesnt not give me a clear answer. I have been using Mikhei777 sense 3.0 version (original) but it has lots of lag and is fairly sluggish. He has upgraded it a few times but now seems to be spending more time on the sense 3.5 version. Its my wifes phone so do not want to keep trying new versions. Just want someone to recommend a known good stable version...
Thanks
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Rafdroid from Rafpigna if you want sense without glitches
HyperDroiD CM7 5.3.0 from Pongster ... my actual ROM ... stable, fast, last gingerbread 2.3.7 ... simply fantastic
nystao said:
Rafdroid from Rafpigna if you want sense without glitches
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Strange, I can't find that one here:
http://android.hd2roms.com/
I've been using Mikhei777's Android 2.2.1 Sense 2.0 rom for quite some time. It works great and haven't had any problems at all with it. The wifi hotspot works also. Not sure about bluetooth and USB tethering stuff. Don't use them. He deleted a lot of the useless system apps but there is a rar file you can download from the first post that has all of the deleted stuff in case there is something you want to put back in it. I've only put on Facebook and the text to speech stuff. I'm not using an ext on my phone since I have a TMOUS HD2 so, I don't have memory issues. Give it a try. If you don't like it you can always flash something else.
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MIUI builds are very slick, very impressive on the HD2, can't imagine it being any slicker or faster as there seems to be zero lag whatsoever.
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exactly, wise words...
if you want a good rom with everything working, miui is the way to go. If your friend is not a hardcore techie, he better stays away from those Sense roms. try it for yourself and compare.. but seriously feature wise Sense is so outdated compared to miui (except the htc widgets maybe).
cheers
The worst about MIUI, it's that laggish launcher/desktop.
I don't know why... it fells "low frame rate".
daedric said:
The worst about MIUI, it's that laggish launcher/desktop.
I don't know why... it fells "low frame rate".
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That's why I use PAT's MIUI Rom with Sense launcher. It combines the best of the 2 world's. Very fast,customizable and everything is working like in other MIUI rom's and a very good, customizable launcher with the most important sense widget's.
No graphic glitches, not a disabled GPU acceleration and camcorder with full resolution and without lags. And the newest Android 2.3.7 version.
Use this rom since some month's, will never go back to the slow sense rom's. Only the dialer facebook integration of the sense dialer isn't there, but I don't have facebook and Co. But there is already an alternative dialer on the market, probably he can also display the actual feelings (posted in facebook) of the incoming caller and such nonsense.
daedric said:
The worst about MIUI, it's that laggish launcher/desktop.
I don't know why... it fells "low frame rate".
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now you have surprised me not sure which version of miui you are refering to, but i am on jan-willems miui and there is zero lag (its butter smooth) on the luncher. basically there are no issues at all.
btw installing a 3rd party launcher on miui is a no go, as it decrases the fuctionality.. people no offense, but you need to read the miui bible
@Nixda99
one question, what do you mean by:
"Only the dialer facebook integration of the sense dialer isn't there, but I don't have facebook and Co."?
When i get a call from a Facebook contact i can actually see its profile pic from facebook. On contact details i also see his status or last comment or whatever its called clicking on it, opens the facebook app and goes to this comment. is that what you meant?
If you are looking for a good ROM, Team Blue Droid have produced an excellent sense 3.5 Rom which looks the business and works far better than many others I have flashed recently on mh EU HD2. I am not that technically minded regarding SD card partition types, but I run mine via SD card after flasing a 1024 partition using CMR and the accompanying DAF.exe.
link is below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1275119
marcusloosewire99 said:
If you are looking for a good ROM, Team Blue Droid have produced an excellent sense 3.5 Rom which looks the business and works far better than many others I have flashed recently on mh EU HD2. I am not that technically minded regarding SD card partition types, but I run mine via SD card after flasing a 1024 partition using CMR and the accompanying DAF.exe.
link is below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1275119
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I totally agree. The latest version 2.2 is just fantastic
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@Nixda99
one question, what do you mean by:
"Only the dialer facebook integration of the sense dialer isn't there, but I don't have facebook and Co."?
When i get a call from a Facebook contact i can actually see its profile pic from facebook. On contact details i also see his status or last comment or whatever its called clicking on it, opens the facebook app and goes to this comment. is that what you meant?
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Yes!
There are missing also the hardware switching widgets (WLAN, Mobile Network...) but all is in the top status bar. You have only the contacts and the calendar widget, but it's enough for me.
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car01 said:
I totally agree. The latest version 2.2 is just fantastic
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But no hardware acceleration or with graphical glitches, only the new sense kernels should solve this problem. I don't know if there already stable.
How many free ram do you have after start with this rom?