Mytouch 3g dangerous - myTouch 3G, Magic General

look at the 10 worst in this article http://green.yahoo.com/blog/the_con...hones-and-radiation-10-best-and-10-worst.html

As long as it won't explode in my face like the iphone might do

ronni.rasmussen said:
As long as it won't explode in my face like the iphone might do
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lol yep or in your pants and blow your crotch off

I am surprised that my Touch 3G is reported in their database to have :
SAR = 1.55 W/kg -over 1g of tissue- (second worst, close to legal maximum 1.6 W/kg)...
.. and my french Magic (SFR/Vodafone) specification is 0.95
W/kg -averaged on 10g of tissue-
(and it is also a Sapphire 32B)
Kind of a big difference !
Is there an error, or is it due to some differences (different frequencies used, influence of the mesure method -1/10g-) ?
And it is likely not due to different settings because of legislation maximum SAR : US max is 1.6 (close to reported SAR for MT3G) and EU max is 2 W/kg (twice the reported SAR for french Magic) !
And there is no such difference for HTC Dream : in france it is reported to be 1.11 W/kg, same as in their database !
( see http://www.sfr.com/no_cache/responsabilite/sante/valeurs-das.html )

use bluetooth like i do and thats not a problem

cedricberger said:
I am surprised that my Touch 3G is reported in their database to have :
SAR = 1.55 W/kg -over 1g of tissue- (second worst, close to legal maximum 1.6 W/kg)...
.. and my french Magic (SFR/Vodafone) specification is 0.95
W/kg -averaged on 10g of tissue-
(and it is also a Sapphire 32B)
Kind of a big difference !
Is there an error, or is it due to some differences (different frequencies used, influence of the mesure method -1/10g-) ?
And it is likely not due to different settings because of legislation maximum SAR : US max is 1.6 (close to reported SAR for MT3G) and EU max is 2 W/kg (twice the reported SAR for french Magic) !
And there is no such difference for HTC Dream : in france it is reported to be 1.11 W/kg, same as in their database !
( see http://www.sfr.com/no_cache/responsabilite/sante/valeurs-das.html )
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I believe different versions have different antennas, so it could be that Tmobile's version outputs a bit more.

any what way you look at it that article is a crock of ****.. They talk about it not being green because of the radiation hey emit, yet the alternatives are to not talk to anyone or to go with a less green land based phone line (higher cost of energy to install & maintain then the cell networks & alot more green house gas's)..
Simple fact of the matter is that there hasnt been anyone ever shown to of dies or even became seriously ill from cell radiation because its on a very small level.. & Everything we do we come in contact with "some" radiation..

bastage said:
any what way you look at it that article is a crock of ****.. They talk about it not being green because of the radiation hey emit, yet the alternatives are to not talk to anyone or to go with a less green land based phone line (higher cost of energy to install & maintain then the cell networks & alot more green house gas's)..
Simple fact of the matter is that there hasnt been anyone ever shown to of dies or even became seriously ill from cell radiation because its on a very small level.. & Everything we do we come in contact with "some" radiation..
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I'm 27. Cell phones became widely used when I was late high school about ten years. Im not sure they've been widey used for long enough to determine the extent of their effects. But I sure am disappointed in those reports, if accurate. Ill definitely be looking for to a new android for tmobile. That's unacceptable

Related

What are the differences between the Tmobile and the Leo?

Has anyone been able to compare the two?
Thank you,
Wz
Is the GSM the (1700/2100) the only difference?
So,
no one knows?
--Wz
I presently can compare both in hand. The TMOUS version is:
1.5 mm longer. Not much.
The bottom of the back looks smoother, because there is no bump for the headphone jack, and it feels slightly less balanced in the hand when in landscape mode to me.
Has colored call and end buttons
Has the front facing T-Mobile logo
Has 1GB ROM
That's about it, really.
The only serious issue is that Euros can use .51. radios, while the TMOUS models cannot do so under any circumstances without irreversibly being bricked.
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Has anyone been able to compare the two?
Thank you,
Wz
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Leo is the codename HTC used for the HD2. Both the TMoUS and the European HD2s are Leos. Both are HD2s. Just slight difference in size and difference in rom size.

Galaxy kicks Iphone Ass SAR style

Was happily surprised to discover that the SAR level of both the Galaxy S2 and Note fall on the "very low" end of the scale! (on a scale which has, Very low -- Low -- Medium -- High)
Iphones generally fall under high and alot of blackberrys are also high.)
No shortage of (scientific) evidence/concerns over radiation and it's effect on our health etc... yes there is alot of conflict in opinions blah blah yes there are so many other dangers in life and i can be hit by a bus tomorrow blah blah
whether you believe/care about this (potentially your health) or not, this is most certainly a good thing in any case for us who have this phone ... and for me a good enough reason to not buy an Iphone :-D
Thank you SAMSUNG. I Hope you continue with low SAR levels!
fast_asleep said:
whether you believe/care about this (potentially your health) or not
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not
but im glad someone appreciates it
panyan said:
not
but im glad someone appreciates it
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had a feeling someone would say not!
ps your location cracked me up
I'm sure it's because some country in the world requires very low ratings. Personally I would like to see a little better radio performance and a medium rating. But since I stream a lot music and have the phone in my pocket, I'm sure my little swimmers don't see it that way.
fast_asleep said:
Was happily surprised to discover that the SAR level of both the Galaxy S2 and Note fall on the "very low" end of the scale! (on a scale which has, Very low -- Low -- Medium -- High)
Iphones generally fall under high and alot of blackberrys are also high.)
No shortage of (scientific) evidence/concerns over radiation and it's effect on our health etc... yes there is alot of conflict in opinions blah blah yes there are so many other dangers in life and i can be hit by a bus tomorrow blah blah
whether you believe/care about this (potentially your health) or not, this is most certainly a good thing in any case for us who have this phone ... and for me a good enough reason to not buy an Iphone :-D
Thank you SAMSUNG. I Hope you continue with low SAR levels!
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WHO has decided that it is harmful and may be a cause of cancer or brain tumor. So low SAR is definitly a very good feature. Samsung has been serious about SAR. That is one of the reasons why I have been using Samsung phones only. Thanks for the post.
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- iPhone 4S: 0,98 W/kg
- Note: 0.16 W/kg
The Note's radiation level is extremely low.
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zas311 said:
WHO has decided that it is harmful and may be a cause of cancer or brain tumor. So low SAR is definitly a very good feature. Samsung has been serious about SAR. That is one of the reasons why I have been using Samsung phones only. Thanks for the post.
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That's the problem. Some say it's "dangerous" and some say it's not. The last i read, it's not. But it's never bad to be cautious about these things, and don't forget that sigarettes were "healthy" 50 years ago.
gedster314 said:
I'm sure my little swimmers don't see it that way.
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i need to look after mine so that they wont let me down when i finally need them to go for gold
zas311 said:
WHO has decided that it is harmful and may be a cause of cancer or brain tumor. So low SAR is definitly a very good feature. Samsung has been serious about SAR. That is one of the reasons why I have been using Samsung phones only. Thanks for the post.
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Agreed...It certainly influences my buying decisions also.
Thank you for your response!
LordManhattan said:
- iPhone 4S: 0,98 W/kg
- Note: 0.16 W/kg
The Note's radiation level is extremely low.
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That's the problem. Some say it's "dangerous" and some say it's not. The last i read, it's not. But it's never bad to be cautious about these things, and don't forget that sigarettes were "healthy" 50 years ago.
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Apple iPhone 0,97 W/kg
Apple iPhone 3G 0,88 W/kg
Apple iPhone 3GS 1,10 W/kg
Apple iPhone4 1,10 W/kg
Apple iPhone 4S 0,98 W/kg
Apple iPhone 5 Care to guess?
You said it well buddy!! i want to minimise the risk if im going to make myself a guinea pig and use mobile phones (i cant imagine life without one!) while the research is going on until we have more conclusive proof - maybe we have to wait 50 years for that time then
zas311 said:
WHO has decided that it is harmful and may be a cause of cancer or brain tumor. So low SAR is definitly a very good feature. Samsung has been serious about SAR. That is one of the reasons why I have been using Samsung phones only. Thanks for the post.
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LordManhattan said:
- iPhone 4S: 0,98 W/kg
- Note: 0.16 W/kg
The Note's radiation level is extremely low.
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That's the problem. Some say it's "dangerous" and some say it's not. The last i read, it's not. But it's never bad to be cautious about these things, and don't forget that sigarettes were "healthy" 50 years ago.
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I meant 'WHO' World Health Organization www.who.int. As far as I know the decision was official.
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I should say that the WHO errs on the side of caution quite a lot of the time, and that rating they put on mobiles was only as a 'Possible' cause, a group which also included coffee and pickled vegetables (think gherkins or whatever takes your fancy).
Many studies in Europe found no link, I can't remember where but there was a large Dutch or Danish study which took place over many years and found no significant link. And a spokesperson from Cancer Research UK also said there has been no definite link found.
It is sensible to take precautions but hopefully this will calm fears of using your mobile.
Any android phone nowadays kick Iphones ass idk why people keep comparing our awesome android devices to that crap phone. Small screen and mediocre to no customization at all come on.
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There is strong evidence that the leakage of other frequencies from mobiles and cell towers interfere with cell growth. At least in plants.
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i agree on that and btw a friend of mine had a real issue with the iphone... he bought a car with an electric key when he tried to start his car the car refuses we thought it was an electrical problem or something with the car alarm after leaving it for half an hour we sat drank a little he forgot his phone in the house but went to try start the car it suddenly started XD the guy went home and on the next morning checked the garage the first question was sir do you have an iphone ? he said suddenly yes i do iphone 4 why ? he said the factory said that this phone has a real high radiation so don't put it in the same pocket with your phone, or even set it beside the key on a table..... that phone may cause damage to the keys frequency an corrupt it...
he called and told me thatand i was like :| DAMN!
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I meant 'WHO' World Health Organization www.who.int. As far as I know the decision was official.
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Hahaha, i thought you were SCREAMING!
yeh, it is very nice to hear that note has so low SAR, to be honest i dont care about SAR and etc but still it is nice behaviour from samsung ;D
I try to use a headset with my iPhone as much as possible for this very reason (and also because I get mild headaches when I make a phone call with my 4S over ~3 minutes).
I don't feel I make enough phone calls for this to be an issue for me, though, especially considering I make most phone calls with a headset.
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i agree on that and btw a friend of mine had a real issue with the iphone... he bought a car with an electric key when he tried to start his car the car refuses we thought it was an electrical problem or something with the car alarm after leaving it for half an hour we sat drank a little he forgot his phone in the house but went to try start the car it suddenly started XD the guy went home and on the next morning checked the garage the first question was sir do you have an iphone ? he said suddenly yes i do iphone 4 why ? he said the factory said that this phone has a real high radiation so don't put it in the same pocket with your phone, or even set it beside the key on a table..... that phone may cause damage to the keys frequency an corrupt it...
he called and told me thatand i was like :| DAMN!
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interesting! thanks for sharing!
LiquidNitrogen said:
I try to use a headset with my iPhone as much as possible for this very reason (and also because I get mild headaches when I make a phone call with my 4S over ~3 minutes).
I don't feel I make enough phone calls for this to be an issue for me, though, especially considering I make most phone calls with a headset.
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if you are interested in headsets checkout
http://www.amazon.co.uk/radiation-airtube-headset-iPhone-BlackBerry/dp/B004AWEI3O/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt
and also one called rf3 live (for both ears) but the 'air' part of the headphone is shorter than the air low's
ive tried both since i know someone who has them.. Bit flimsy construction but no problems with the sound and block practically 100% of the radiation going to your head they say.

latest radio

I'd like to know which is the latest radio that I can flash on my phone.
Here is what I have:
G900W8
Baseband version:G900W8VLU1AND1
I'm hoping to improve reception which is terrible compared to other phones around me (iPhone and BB) in the same spot and same carrier.
Thank you.
**** it
It is more simpler than that. I work in a basement and and I have no signal at all. No data, no calls no text. No signal icon. Other phones have. Indeed weak and sometimes off-on-off but they can use the service.
Same situation in the basement of my house. I've read that this is a common problem with S5 and I was hoping a new radio would improve the situation. It is not this device. Already swapped with another new one. Same problem.
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Antenna design plays a factor. That being said, are you comparing the actual dBm and ASU/RSSI/RSRP values? Or simply "bars" which will not give you a true indication of value as they vary greatly per manufacturer (some falsely inflating them)?
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**** it
Xtechx. It is my turn to say that IMHO you over complicate it. Yes all the phones are on the same carrier (see the OP). All of them are on LTE. It does not matter how different is the HW. It matters the final result. NO SIGNAL. If you're trying to say that I do not compare apples with apples well I'm not. I compare the flagships from all the am manufacturers in the same spot, connected to the same tower, same carrier and same service.
I respect your knowledge and time to try to explain how many factors are in the same equation but the truth it lays naked in front of me.
The S5 has a weaker radio than other phones compared in the same basic conditions.
Coming back to my OP. Is there any new radio than AND1 for my device? I'm looking for that slighter better performance which may give me that minimum level to connect.
P.S.Without relevance and trying to be modest but I have a major in microelectronics and specialized in radio so before posting here I considered all the necessary factors.
Thanks again.
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still a very poor comparison IMHO, whether you think it's simple or not. different phones have different antenna design, amps, chipset, power levels, etc.
also are you all on the same carrier? what service are you comparing? GPRS/EDGE? UMTS/HSPA/DC-HSPA? LTE?
for example if your carrier doesn't support edge, but the carrier the phones you are comparing to do, then you are more likely NOT going to receive signal. try forcing GSM/EDGE if your carrier supports it (different power levels are typically used for different radio modes). also, very important if they support either 700MHz or 850Mhz bands, as lower radio frequencies propagate better through obstacles (building materials or otherwise). if your carrier only supports the upper bands then it is also less likely to work in that environment (basement, inside, etc.). the ground/earth itself, rocks, steel reinforced concrete and other objects/building materials are very unforgiving to RF.
a new radio might give you slightly better performance but in regards to increasing dBm or ASU/RSSI/RSRP, well that is going to be extremely marginal of a difference if at all. unless they change the parameters they've used, which they often don't...it's usually for compatibility/performance with the actual antenna you are connecting to at the tower side
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Battery Life Test

First test is online and it doesn't look too pleasing. I'm guessing the 1440p panel really does zap the life out of this thing.
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/droid-turbo-battery-life,news-19846.html
I don't know how bright 150 nits are, but that basically means you can easily get ~9.5 hours of SoT, right?
I had a day where my Razr Maxx was off the charger for 16 hours, with over 8 hours of SoT and over 1GB of data transferred by my reddit app (it was a very lazy Sunday). If I can get back to that sort of battery life, it would be awesome. I don't need 2 days of power use, I just need enough for a long day with heavy use.
in all phones defense, not even one phone in the world lasts more than 12 hours with a full bright screen and 4G LTE enabled, no matter what you do, thats heavy use (IMHO)
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in all phones defense, not even one phone in the world lasts more than 12 hours with a full bright screen and 4G LTE enabled, no matter what you do, thats heavy use (IMHO)
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Most phone's full brightness is upwards of 500nits. This test was only at 150nits which is pretty low on the brightness spectrum.
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Most phone's full brightness is upwards of 500nits. This test was only at 150nits which is pretty low on the brightness spectrum.
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oh sh- really? something its not right, then, wait... its without turning the screen off, then?
I'm gonna wait for a second review that list seems a bit suspect to me. Never seen the OnePlus that much higher than everything else on other roundups before.
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I'm gonna wait for a second review that list seems a bit suspect to me. Never seen the OnePlus that much higher than everything else on other roundups before.
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exactly. that site seems to be off by quite a bit in several of the ratings on battery life.
Several shortcomings in their test. Here are a few I thought of immediately.
1) different cell carriers / frequencies. Some may have additional compression/caching.
2) different signal strengths. What if that cell/data signal was LTE at -60dB, but the Verizon switched occasionally from LTE to 3G and was at -100dB
3) testing group of dynamic web sites. "100 public sites" (content changes very quickly-multiple times a day. Sometimes more graphics intense and with auto playing video to cache/buffer)
4) were they tested at the same time? Same day? Weeks apart?
5) same web browser on all phones? same version? same phone cache settings? same plugin versions?
I'm more interested in how it performs over the Droid Maxx. I don't want to lose battery life, which I fear I will due to the processor/gpu usage in order to drive the higher resolution. I have read that the display backlight is relatively constant in terms of power consumption.
I ordered a light meter from amazon. I'll set them to the same brightness and play video files from a private server: first over VZW LTE, then after recharging from the device's own memory in airplane mode.
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First test is online and it doesn't look too pleasing. I'm guessing the 1440p panel really does zap the life out of this thing.
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/droid-turbo-battery-life,news-19846.html
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That test is bull****.
HTC One M8 gets 9:52 hours. In what world is that?!
And other numbers from that test are just crazy and nonsense
My m8 gets half of that on Verizon
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The test doesn't line up with reality, I wouldn't expect the numbers to match any other site, but I would expect the overall hierarchy to match other sites reviews.
The IP6 is too low, The M8 is too high, The OPO is laughably too high. The Note 4 is lower than it should be...
Just to clarify - let's make this the battery life thread. I for one don't think this first test is anything official by any means but as more reviews come out let's talk about them here!
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My m8 gets half of that on Verizon
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Seems like thats the case with a lot of phones on verizon (iphone, moto x, lg g3)...
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Several shortcomings in their test. Here are a few I thought of immediately.
1) different cell carriers / frequencies. Some may have additional compression/caching.
2) different signal strengths. What if that cell/data signal was LTE at -60dB, but the Verizon switched occasionally from LTE to 3G and was at -100dB
3) testing group of dynamic web sites. "100 public sites" (content changes very quickly-multiple times a day. Sometimes more graphics intense and with auto playing video to cache/buffer)
4) were they tested at the same time? Same day? Weeks apart?
5) same web browser on all phones? same version? same phone cache settings? same plugin versions?
I'm more interested in how it performs over the Droid Maxx. I don't want to lose battery life, which I fear I will due to the processor/gpu usage in order to drive the higher resolution. I have read that the display backlight is relatively constant in terms of power consumption.
I ordered a light meter from amazon. I'll set them to the same brightness and play video files from a private server: first over VZW LTE, then after recharging from the device's own memory in airplane mode.
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You're right, a lot of these 'tests' are so skewed and have no basis. The test they did proves nothing, absolutely nothing. Now, if you were to take a say, S5, M8, Turbo and use all of them on the same network, and same usage (web, video, calls, messaging and do exactly the same on all the devices) is the only way to really test the battery. Using one device on one network and one on another is absurd. I.e., when T-Mobile initially launched LTE it wasn't a full launch and the signal was weaker, causing the phone to try and find a stronger signal or struggle to keep the existing LTE signal, which results in a significant battery drain. Resulting in me switching my phone back to 4G for the time being. And then the network speeds, the longer the phones takes to load something also means the longer the screen will be lit resulting in yet again more battery drain. Those are just some factors that haven't even scratched the surface behind how the battery can be drained. These people need to stop testing phones without sufficient background data. Taking their site off my list of reliable sources.
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You're right, a lot of these 'tests' are so skewed and have no basis. The test they did proves nothing, absolutely nothing. Now, if you were to take a say, S5, M8, Turbo and use all of them on the same network, and same usage (web, video, calls, messaging and do exactly the same on all the devices) is the only way to really test the battery. Using one device on one network and one on another is absurd. I.e., when T-Mobile initially launched LTE it wasn't a full launch and the signal was weaker, causing the phone to try and find a stronger signal or struggle to keep the existing LTE signal, which results in a significant battery drain. Resulting in me switching my phone back to 4G for the time being. And then the network speeds, the longer the phones takes to load something also means the longer the screen will be lit resulting in yet again more battery drain. Those are just some factors that haven't even scratched the surface behind how the battery can be drained. These people need to stop testing phones without sufficient background data. Taking their site off my list of reliable sources.
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The peoblem is, the droid turbo is only available on verizon as of now. So theres no method to get different results (better or worse) on another carrier. I would hope theyd repeat tge test a few times to verify, but the result is what it is. Its perfectly fair to compare to othwr devices on other networks. Because if someone is looking for the phone with the best battery life they might go to an at&t htc one. Its not htc's fault that the turbo is limited to verizon.
And verizon claims the best coverage in the U.S. so unless they were doing the test in one of the few black holes where verizon doesnt get a good sig al compared to at&t, its not a skewed result.
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The peoblem is, the droid turbo is only available on verizon as of now. So theres no method to get different results (better or worse) on another carrier. I would hope theyd repeat tge test a few times to verify, but the result is what it is. Its perfectly fair to compare to othwr devices on other networks. Because if someone is looking for the phone with the best battery life they might go to an at&t htc one. Its not htc's fault that the turbo is limited to verizon.
And verizon claims the best coverage in the U.S. so unless they were doing the test in one of the few black holes where verizon doesnt get a good sig al compared to at&t, its not a skewed result.
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Then that means their results are inconclusive. But yes right now only Verizon sells it but it doesn't mean you can't use it on tmobile or att and test it... The phone is GSM unlocked and will work on tmobile's lte.... If you think their tests prove something that is the equivalent to comparing a 4 cylinder vehicle to a 6 cylinder, while driving the 6 cylinder conservatively and then pedal to the metal on the 4 all the time. In that example it's like how a prius would get lower mpg vs a m3 if you drove the prius aggressively and the m3 conservatively, and that test has been done but just for sh*ts and giggles. They're also comparing devices with different hardware on different networks. I guess it's dependent on how thorough you want to be, I don't buy any of the results they posted.
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Then that means their results are inconclusive. But yes right now only Verizon sells it but it doesn't mean you can't use it on tmobile or att and test it... The phone is GSM unlocked and will work on tmobile's lte.... If you think their tests prove something that is the equivalent to comparing a 4 cylinder vehicle to a 6 cylinder, while driving the 6 cylinder conservatively and then pedal to the metal on the 4 all the time. In that example it's like how a prius would get lower mpg vs a m3 if you drove the prius aggressively and the m3 conservatively, and that test has been done but just for sh*ts and giggles. They're also comparing devices with different hardware on different networks. I guess it's dependent on how thorough you want to be, I don't buy any of the results they posted.
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I dont see how your analogy compares to this at all. they didn't have the phones set any differently. They were all set to the same brightness and used on their respective networks. How else would you have liked them to have done this test?
if your indications are that because they are on different networks that's affecting the battery life, then a more appropriate analogy would be comparing 0 to 60of an m3 and s4 with the m3 being up at 10,000 feet elevation and the s for being at sea level. Being naturally aspirated engines struggle more at high altitudes that would be an unfair comparison
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I dont see how your analogy compares to this at all. they didn't have the phones set any differently. They were all set to the same brightness and used on their respective networks. How else would you have liked them to have done this test?
if your indications are that because they are on different networks that's affecting the battery life, then a more appropriate analogy would be comparing 0 to 60of an m3 and s4 with the m3 being up at 10,000 feet elevation and the s for being at sea level. Being naturally aspirated engines struggle more at high altitudes that would be an unfair comparison
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Yeah that's the main problem, if the test involves constant data pulling over the network, that becomes a huge factor of the test.
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Yeah that's the main problem, if the test involves constant data pulling over the network, that becomes a huge factor of the test.
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But if all of them are doing that then whhere is the discrepancy, ya know?
And its really not a matter of competing against other phones. If thats what the result js for the droid turbo on verizons nerwork then it is what it is. Doesnt matter if the M8 on at&t or iphone on t-mobile get better or worse time. Theyre not taking power away feom the droid turbo.
Id love to see more independent tests though.
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I dont see how your analogy compares to this at all. they didn't have the phones set any differently. They were all set to the same brightness and used on their respective networks. How else would you have liked them to have done this test?
if your indications are that because they are on different networks that's affecting the battery life, then a more appropriate analogy would be comparing 0 to 60of an m3 and s4 with the m3 being up at 10,000 feet elevation and the s for being at sea level. Being naturally aspirated engines struggle more at high altitudes that would be an unfair comparison
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I think that's where your confusion lies (my observation), there is no control (factor) group to compare it to. Of the 7 they tested, if they tested them all on VZW and then tested the same devices going through the same usage on AT&T then you can compare the devices on their respective networks. There's too many factors to account for the way they tested it. Another factor is the phone is....a day old? The battery hasn't even settled yet. The other devices they're comparing it to range from 6 months to half a month old. A very good comparison would be to test the, M8, OnePlus One, S5, and perhaps a G3 since they all use the same processor, and obviously other hardware is different but at least they have something in common. Now I'm not saying you can't compare an iPhone's battery life to an Android's either, so don't get the wrong idea there. It's just there are too many factors to offer conclusive results from how they way they 'tested.' But if you feel they are good enough for you then I'm not going to try and persuade you otherwise, I'm simply pointing out that their test would be insufficient for my standards.
qwerty12601 said:
But if all of them are doing that then whhere is the discrepancy, ya know?
And its really not a matter of competing against other phones. If thats what the result js for the droid turbo on verizons nerwork then it is what it is. Doesnt matter if the M8 on at&t or iphone on t-mobile get better or worse time. Theyre not taking power away feom the droid turbo.
Id love to see more independent tests though.
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As I previous stated above, I'd probably take the results from fellow XDA members over their data. I'd give it a few days to a week and check out the reports from other users after their battery has settled down as I don't remember any phone I've had in the past that was showing great battery life within the first few days of usage. There's so much going on with the phone that it's constantly working to get settled in, software and hardware. It's also like flashing a ROM on your phone, the battery life is never at it's best within the first few days after flashing, same principle with a new device that is...again, a day old.

4.4'' or 5.2''? FCC proof!

Hello guys, today I discovered a news about the available report of FCC certification.
In particular way, the FCC ID for the Nexus 5X seems to be two: ZNFH790 and ZNFH791.
Now starts the problem. If you have a look at these reports:
ZNFH790 - Test Report SAR pag. 12 ---> https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...on_id=C7PDQk5twzVNBBAKcssesQ==&fcc_id=ZNFH790
ZNFH791 - 15I21237-S1V1 FCC Report SAR pag. 11---> https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...on_id=S/s76aZepqb2vS8ExKLhKw==&fcc_id=ZNFH791
You will discover that the LG-H790 seems to have 133mm (about 5.2'') of diagonal display and LG-H791 seems to have 112mm (about 4.4'') of diagonal display.
What do you think about this difference?
Regards,
kalo86
The 4.4 might be for low cost markets or perhaps to compete with Z5 Compact.
Z5 Compact also only has 2GB
Seems almost like a typo because the size of the device is almost identical to the 5.2" device, its like they put a smaller screen in an identical sized phone
Perhaps this 4.4" Nexus is the one with the not impressive "leaked" benchmark with 1..44ghz cpu instead of 1.8ghz and only 2gb of ram.
ZNFH791 is the international version of the 5X.
i'm sure it's the same.
I don't know.... A typo at FCC? Like impossible.
hope its a typo.. i dont want a fone with 4.4 screen size
This info is all being discussed in the Lounge. No need for a operate thread.
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