hi folks,
how do you folks use gps? I have a p3600, already flashed w/ akeo wm6.1 build 19965; i read somewhere that if it's at version wm 6.1 that gps should already been enabled. anyway, I installed iGuidance version 3.0 and it couldn't find the gps. just thought how you folks use the gps.
thanks!
You should flash your PDA also with latest radio 1.56.70.11. Then you will have good working GPS
Make sure you've got it set to use com9
no luck
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Make sure you've got it set to use com9
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i upgraded radio to 1.50, and used com port 9 but still no luck.
it still thinks i'm at another location but i can't get it to figure out that I'm not there anymore.
i recall, as I had another phone to play w/ that, i had to do something similar to that 'quick gps' download, then another one that actually kind of tells gps(?) where i'm at. is there something similar on the trinity? if not, what else can I do? what do you guys use? or the process that you go through.
thanks alot!
Also check the baud rate. Look in settings > system > external gps
mines set to com9 baud rate 115200
Make sure your GPS app is set to the same.
My radio rom is 1.56.70.11 but you should be fine with 1.50 & you're right, wm6.1 does have GPS enabled.
I'm using TomTom 7. It can can up to 10 minutes before it gets a signal. I have tried QuickGPS but am not convinced it makes any difference. Make sure you're outside too.
still no luck.
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Also check the baud rate. Look in settings > system > external gps
mines set to com9 baud rate 115200
Make sure your GPS app is set to the same.
My radio rom is 1.56.70.11 but you should be fine with 1.50 & you're right, wm6.1 does have GPS enabled.
I'm using TomTom 7. It can can up to 10 minutes before it gets a signal. I have tried QuickGPS but am not convinced it makes any difference. Make sure you're outside too.
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so you just set these settings - com port, baud rate w/ in the 'external gps' settings, and in tomtom 7, it just works? you don't have to do anything else?
oh i would just love to get this working. thanks!
what rom are you using?
btw, what rom are you using? the default one? or a customized one?
I googled around and came across htc's site where there's a rom download that'll enable gps (and get free tomtom 6) but when I input my serial number it says it's not suitable for my device, did anyone try this?
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=3&cat=2&dl_id=111
that's right, stick em in and it's all go! I'm currently using g77 wm6.1 rom, the current one in his post in the wm6 forum but it's worked with every rom I've used, from wm5 up. Have you tried any other programs that can use gps? There's a few free ones aout, I know Wififofum can use it.
That's the original wm5 rom, it's old, not sure why it's got a recent date. Think there was a post in the wm6 forum about it the other day.
How long are you waiting for it to get a fix? I've never used iGuidance before, does it say anything like waiting for fix or saterlites?
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that's right, stick em in and it's all go! I'm currently using g77 wm6.1 rom, the current one in his post in the wm6 forum but it's worked with every rom I've used, from wm5 up. Have you tried any other programs that can use gps? There's a few free ones aout, I know Wififofum can use it.
That's the original wm5 rom, it's old, not sure why it's got a recent date. Think there was a post in the wm6 forum about it the other day.
How long are you waiting for it to get a fix? I've never used iGuidance before, does it say anything like waiting for fix or saterlites?
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I downloaded Wififofum and on the bottom it shows "GPS: NotFix (0)", i'm using com port 9, i think this is the correct one as if I change to another com port, it just keeps saying "re-connecting". My radio version is pretty recent - 1.4.6 or so (same as yours actually). could the GPS be defective?
if I use iGuidance, it just says 'waiting for gps signal'
for your first GPS fix, it could take a very long time, even more if you're moving.
When you got some spare time, put your trinity close to a window, start up your GPS app, and leave it there for a while. Trinity has no aGPS, and I'm not sure if there's any software that can get it, and pass the data to any GPS app running.
If you change GPS configs on iGuidance, does the message 'waiting for gps signal' change to something else like "no GPS device" or so?
it works!!! yeh!!
hey guys, thanks so much for helping me out!
It works. I guess all this time, even though I put the phone right by my window here at the office it still wasn't good enough, I had to get out of my office and sit on some benches and after a couple of minutes iGuidance was able to know and show me exactly where I was.
the bottom line was I wanted to make sure that the gps wasn't defective....
thanks so much again for all you guys' help!
Aloha from Hawaii!
I would like to know if theres a gps program which i can use offline with the built in gps of my touch 3g. right now i use google maps which always tries to connect to the internet.
Does anyone know a well working alternative?
Check this: http://wiki.trekbuddy.net/index.php/Main_Page
offline gps?
Of course there are tens of them..
OFFROAD? ONROAD??
You do not mean Offline GPS..
You mean internet Offline GPS, I am sure..
The below are onroad ones;
TomTom, Garmin, IGO8 and many others with their own mapdatas...
Offroad ones;
GPSTuner, Trekbuddy and so goes on....
You may choose one of them depends to what city/ country you live in?
thx for answering
right now i use google maps which always tries to connect to the internet
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i wanted to ask for non-internet-based gps programs, a program which doesnt need an internet connection.
Trekbuddy is Java based but for now a bit complicated (im dumb in that topic), GPSTuner looks easier so i would go for that one for now.
I live in south Germany (near Swiss boarder) so if you can suggest another nice and easy to handle im thankful.
Btw can we use Garmin on the Touch 3g with the built-in gps?
Understood. You can use TomTom for example, which is a full navigation software. Works great! TrekBuddy is quite tricky. Just found it on the web - but did not understand it neither
I downloaded TomTom "Version 7.450.9028_repack3-qvga-black", is the Touch 3g qvga anyways? ^^"
Btw I noticed that there are no maps included, maybe you know where to find a decent one for Germany??
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Btw I noticed that there are no maps included, maybe you know where to find a decent one for Germany??
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www.tomtom.com
Hello
I would suggest you to find the tomtom version 7.915.9196 (from HTC Iolite) wich works fine for the touch 3g.
I'm using mapking + Malaysia map.
thats the kind of program i mean, easy and simple.
Too bad it's maps are only for Asia, what I need is western Europe/ Germany.
thx anyways
It sounds like you have all got various form of GPS software working.
I have just got my new HTC Touch 3G on Orange UK and want to run some logging gps software.
Can you advise the corrrect settings for the GPS com port and Baud rate.
At the moment I do not seem able to talk to the GPS and the manual is not helpfull at all.
I am trying Com 4 at 4800 Baud which appears not to work..
Any suggestions ?
Thankyou
Phil-w
phil-w said:
It sounds like you have all got various form of GPS software working.
I have just got my new HTC Touch 3G on Orange UK and want to run some logging gps software.
Can you advise the corrrect settings for the GPS com port and Baud rate.
At the moment I do not seem able to talk to the GPS and the manual is not helpfull at all.
I am trying Com 4 at 4800 Baud which appears not to work..
Any suggestions ?
Thankyou
Phil-w
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What software are you using for your GPS? You need to have a software( pre installed when you bought your HTC 3G or bought separately)
I am using Garmin Mobile XT which came with my unit when I bought it.
Then you have to buy maps too, I have Thailand Map (also pre installed)
and Philippines map, downloaded free from website.
phil-w said:
It sounds like you have all got various form of GPS software working.
I have just got my new HTC Touch 3G on Orange UK and want to run some logging gps software.
Can you advise the corrrect settings for the GPS com port and Baud rate.
At the moment I do not seem able to talk to the GPS and the manual is not helpfull at all.
I am trying Com 4 at 4800 Baud which appears not to work..
Any suggestions ?
Thankyou
Phil-w
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Im using the same like you, Com 4 and 4800.
I use google maps and my GPS works fine.
Dont underaestimate the "do it outside" rule, inside a room, even in front of the window i wouldnt ever get a gps signal, once outside it works well and fast.
phil-w said:
want to run some logging gps software.
Can you advise the corrrect settings for the GPS com port and Baud rate.
At the moment I do not seem able to talk to the GPS and the manual is not helpfull at all.
I am trying Com 4 at 4800 Baud which appears not to work..
Any suggestions ?
Thankyou
Phil-w
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1. GPS Logging Software: GPS Cycle Computer (freeware)
2. COM and BAUD are correct - run QuickGPS before! This will download some basic information via your GSM-Cells about where you are more or less. Then the GPS Signal will be found even quicker.
phil-w said:
It sounds like you have all got various form of GPS software working.
I have just got my new HTC Touch 3G on Orange UK and want to run some logging gps software.
Can you advise the corrrect settings for the GPS com port and Baud rate.
At the moment I do not seem able to talk to the GPS and the manual is not helpfull at all.
I am trying Com 4 at 4800 Baud which appears not to work..
Any suggestions ?
Thankyou
Phil-w
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Try COM 4 at 57600 Baud.
Works for IGo 8 and Navigon 7.4
I use McGuider 2009. very accurate and a quick fix.
run QuickGPS before! This will download some basic information via your GSM-Cells about where you are more or less.
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gsm cells? is this for free or do you pay?
<-- have a prepaid card, dont want to risk
No Internet mapping software
Try terracrosser.com
You download google or yahoo maps to your PC, which then creates the map file. Transfer this to your PCC and away you go . . .
I have dutch version HTC touch HD. IN new BeeLineGPS everything is 0. What to do ?
ensure
can u ensure u are outside building
Many GPS softwares (iGo, Tomtom 7 ou NoniGPS) don't like a-gps. So disable the function
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I have dutch version HTC touch HD. IN new BeeLineGPS everything is 0. What to do ?
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This may be a silly question, but is it configured properly to see the device? I'm not familiar with this particular application. However, with some navigation applications I have seen issues with them letting Windows manage the GPS configuration. Usually setting it manually to COM4 and 38,400 baud rate or higher will make it start working.
Same here. Gps never worked for me in google maps thats why i had to enable a-gps which works pretty well btw.
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I have dutch version HTC touch HD. IN new BeeLineGPS everything is 0. What to do ?
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Hello waskow,
Have u managed to resolve this issue?..I'm currently having the same probelm
My Blackstone came with an ancient ROM, like 1.14.xxxxxxxxwhateverxxxxxxxx, it was the cause of not working GPS. I couldn't get anything at all. Tried almost everything. Then, I just flashed the most recent official ROM and 2 minutes later I got a load of sattelites available.
Download HTC GPS Tool, run and under button "Open" select option "Clear memory", then press "Open".
Have the same problem. Used HTC GPS tool. I got error message WaitCommEvent failed.
Any ideas?
Gps Blackstone
I having the same problem, gps cannot find any satellites, when my p3470 searches for satellites an orange light flashes by the earpiece, but the blackstone doesn't flash at all? does anyone know if it should ?
I've had the imagio for about 2 weeks not. and can't get the GPS to work. I've tried every reg edit I can't find. Tried useing GPSID.dll rather then GPSID_HTC.dll. I tried installing the GPSModDrivers. Ran QuickGPS. Done Hard resets and half a dozen flashes. Nothing. The only program that works in Verizon's VZ Nav. TomTom, Google maps, Bing never get any sat lock. I'd say it was my phone but my dad's and the floor model at our Verizon store all have the same problems. The guy at Verizon said it was an issue with a lot of them and HTC was working on an updated rom for it. But that could be crap. Any ideas?
You probably have a faulty unit - my GPS always locks pretty quickly.
Agreed. My GPS works flawlessly. I use it all the time with TrackMe.
Never had the first problem with the GPS , works great with Google and Bing maps. Yours Dad's phone must be defective , swap it out for a new one.
Just wondering...
Start/Settings/System/External GPS on Access tab, did you marked
"Manage GPS atomatically (recommended)
If you don't do this, have you tried setting the Com Port Manually? I have a felling that if VZ works that is just a configuration issue.
As a last resource, you could use a terminal program like Token2Shell Mobile (free 30 Trial) to read the Com port "Usually Com4" and 4800 Baud and check the NMEA string coming in, here is a example from mine.
$GPGGA,204838.8,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,1,08,1.20,19.00,M,-2.00,M,,*56
$GPRMC,204838.8,A,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,21.60,268.00,021109,,*27
$GPGLL,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,204838.8,A*22
$GPGSA,A,3,02,04,05,09,10,12,17,27,,,,,2.60,1.20,2.40*08
$GPGSV,3,1,10,12,45,313,30,04,55,028,25,10,31,174,24,02,69,293,21*72
$GPGSV,3,2,10,09,21,243,21,05,24,182,21,17,27,080,20,28,03,143,16*7F
$GPGSV,3,3,10,27,19,237,14,30,11,319,14*7B
The bold is the amount of Satellites, in this case 8
Hope this gave you some ideas, let us know if it works for you...
Sorry for the double post working from device.
Keep in mind that some of the things you may have installed to correct the issue may have negatively affect registry settings, sync your contacts and do a hard reset on the device. And do not set up VZ nav when you bring it up.
Then do this:
Install Google maps
Make Sure your Location Setting is "on" in the phone settings. If it is on then toggle it to "911" hit okay on upper right corner then go back into it and toggle it back on and hit okay.
Soft Reset and let boat up completely
Open Google Maps And make sure USE GPS is not checked.
Click "X" in top corner to let it run in the background
Run Quick GPS and select "Download"
Open Google Maps again and select "USE GPS" make sure you have a clear view of the sky and it should take less than one minute to lock
Sometimes a soft reset is required to get a gps lock.
Actually, It is a known issue with the particular gpsone chipset. It's an issue with location caching with agps, but this phone comes stock with agps disabled. However, I have not heard that many complaints on this forum, of course not everybody uses gps. If you soft reset before you try and use you shouldn't have issues. Trust me this is my third HTC touch series phone with this issue (diamond, touch pro, imagio). With my imagio it suddenly stopped having this issue, wierd. I used to use a program called HTC gps tool on my touch pro that would clear the cache for you without having to soft reset each time you might want to do some searching, not sure if it works with wvga screens.
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Just wondering...
Start/Settings/System/External GPS on Access tab, did you marked
"Manage GPS atomatically (recommended)
If you don't do this, have you tried setting the Com Port Manually? I have a felling that if VZ works that is just a configuration issue.
As a last resource, you could use a terminal program like Token2Shell Mobile (free 30 Trial) to read the Com port "Usually Com4" and 4800 Baud and check the NMEA string coming in, here is a example from mine.
$GPGGA,204838.8,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,1,08,1.20,19.00,M,-2.00,M,,*56
$GPRMC,204838.8,A,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,21.60,268.00,021109,,*27
$GPGLL,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,204838.8,A*22
$GPGSA,A,3,02,04,05,09,10,12,17,27,,,,,2.60,1.20,2.40*08
$GPGSV,3,1,10,12,45,313,30,04,55,028,25,10,31,174,24,02,69,293,21*72
$GPGSV,3,2,10,09,21,243,21,05,24,182,21,17,27,080,20,28,03,143,16*7F
$GPGSV,3,3,10,27,19,237,14,30,11,319,14*7B
The bold is the amount of Satellites, in this case 8
Hope this gave you some ideas, let us know if it works for you...
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I concur if it was a hardware issue VZ nav wouldn't work.
Sweeny Russ:
I being looking for a program to manage the GPS chipset, I use many kinds of GPS devices for work and it would be the first time I see a GPS device I can't program/manage. Gpsone chipset is the GPS on board device? Do you have a link for this HTC GPS program? I wonder if I can actually program with it...worth asking
One of my friends had the same problem as you mentioned. I asked him to do a hard reset and after a HR, the GPS has been working smoothly. Please try a HR!
I have no complain about my Imagio's GPS because it works much more than I expected. I can get 7-8 sattelites fixed in house, near the window where my old phone Touch HD could not fix any sattlelite.
I'm about to try bastukee suggestion. Giakhoa are you saying do a hard reset after a hard reset?
bastukee This is what I got, any ideas?
$GPGGA,,,,,,0,,,,,,,,*66
$GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,*31
$GPGLL,,,,,,A*11
$GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,50.00,50.00,50.00*35
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Sweeny Russ:
I being looking for a program to manage the GPS chipset, I use many kinds of GPS devices for work and it would be the first time I see a GPS device I can't program/manage. Gpsone chipset is the GPS on board device? Do you have a link for this HTC GPS program? I wonder if I can actually program with it...worth asking
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Let me know how this pans out. I haven't used this new version but it will allow you to play around with some setting my gps locks instantly so I'm not going to mess with it I just now it works on vga, you might need a screen rotate app to read all settings.
Original Post where I found it is here
Sweeny, Program works nice. it's an easier way to see the data then the program bastukee gave me. But sadly I don't know what half the options do and it still gives me the same date I posted in #12. Thoughts anyone?
That's exactly what you would get when satelites are not being seen, in fact you can't even see a Clock. Once I finish this 3 day trip to India and settle I will try that program and see how my settings look like and post screenies. "I'm a zombie atm"
Thanks for the help. I'm going crazy trying to get this to work.
While bastukee is on his trip, anyone else have any ideas?
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While bastukee is on his trip, anyone else have any ideas?
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be sure ur using com port 4
There's where I got the data that matched the data bastukee showed me. And the one in the settings.
I might be pointing out the obvious but, did you try this outside? After like a minute?
I have a p3300 obviously that i bought with wm6 already on it. The problem is, there is no trace of gps in the registry and in the settings there is only an option for external gps, nothing more. Is there a way to install drivers for the gps only? I'm not sure i'm comfortable flashing seeing as there are so many roms out there for different carriers.. I'm on fido in canada btw
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I have a p3300 obviously that i bought with wm6 already on it. The problem is, there is no trace of gps in the registry and in the settings there is only an option for external gps, nothing more. Is there a way to install drivers for the gps only? I'm not sure i'm comfortable flashing seeing as there are so many roms out there for different carriers.. I'm on fido in canada btw
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Hi
If you mean GPS program, you could always install Navigon.
http://www.navigon.com/portal/sites.html
There is a 30 days free testversion of their Navigator7.
Just remember to change COM-port from 4 to 7 on either the device or in the program.
Oh my mistake, what I meant was that I can not get any satellites with any program. I flashed it yesterday to WM6.1 (Andrew82) but aside from some slight improvements, it made no difference to the function of the gps. I cannot get a fix from any software that i've tried, it's as if the GPS isn't there (although gps test 1.04 says that the gps is starting up, nothing happens). Are there some drivers or something that I can install?
I tried setting com ports to 7/none/4800/auto However, I though it was supposed to be 4/none/4800/auto in the settings, no?
Also if it helps, I only have a setting for external gps, there is nothing with just GPS there in system...
I've tried all kinds of resets, factory rom, but its the same story im afraid... Any ideas HIGHLY appreciated
Also, the HTC gps tool says "Fix not available"
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I tried setting com ports to 7/none/4800/auto However, I though it was supposed to be 4/none/4800/auto in the settings, no?
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It is only the NAVIGON software that uses COM7.
Others I have seen, use COM4. - (So unless you change to Navigon, use COM4.)
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I've tried all kinds of resets, factory rom, but its the same story im afraid... Any ideas HIGHLY appreciated
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I also use AndreW82, but it has no GPS software.
So I use Tomtom Navigator 7
If you use other GPS-software, - have you checked that the program asks for COM4?
Probably som .dat file or something that needs to be altered to COM4.
I had the same problem when I tried Navigon.
First it reported "no GPS found" But after I altered one of the .dat files to COM4, it found the GPS.
(But it took a veeeeeeeeery long time before it found the first sattelites.)
If you want to try, I have attached a test-version of Tomtom. (tomtom7.cab below)
According to Tomtom, NO such testversion exists.
But if you try it, you will at least see if your GPS is working.
(I don't know if it has any maps for Canadian Cities, but at least it should let you see if it finds any sattelites.)
1. Install the cab.
2. Start Tomtom Navigator
3. If settings does not come up automatically, just tap somewhere on the screen.
4. Select, Change preferences
5. Tap blue arrow 5 times
6. Tap Config GPS
And wait for it to find sattelites. Be patient, first time it takes a little longer time.