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P3600 fix gps cold start RAPID!

TESTED OK OK!!!!
QGPS: improve your TTFF to seconds!
If you have a PPC with built-in GPS - this software is for you.
This is a small freeware that downloads Ephemeris data to your PPC using an internet connection with Activesync. If your GPS was off for more than 4 hours, then the next time you start it up you get a cold start , where the Ephemeris data needs to be DL to the receiver. This can take a few seconds to a few minutes, depending on your device and location.
The software downloads this data to your PPC so that you , in fact , get a warm start!
Just start the program, click the Connect button (no need for the 10 days data), and within a few seconds , you get the most up-to-date data. Now go outside and start your GPS program - you'll get a fix within 10 seconds!
Link:
http://www.avaricum.net/
Download:
http://www.avaricum.net/qgps.cab

I doubt it works for our P3600, I tried the HP version once (found on this forum) and noticed no change at all, but I'll try this one and see of it helps....

WOW IT WORKS! (unlike the HP one...)
<10s fix. Although it seems to crash some of my GPS programs....now if someone can write a script to make it automatically download data everyday via activesync that would be awesome
THANKS A MILLION!

It tried it quickly and it seemed to work very well !
(on a Trinity Orange SPV M700 Fr)

I tried this with GPS Tuner, and it got a fix in under 10 seconds from a cold start. Whether this is luck or not I don't know, so will test it over then next few days.
It's a vanilla m700 with no rom udates etc

I have the problem that this tools doesn't pass the proxy server @ work.
any chance to change this manually?

Hello,
I got this error window running it:
HttpSendRequest failed: 12007
Any idea?
Thanks!
(Italy (Rome), P3600 ROM Ita Test GPS Enabled)

The_Stranger said:
I doubt it works for our P3600, I tried the HP version once (found on this forum) and noticed no change at all, but I'll try this one and see of it helps....
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To quote myself, I tried it now, and still a cold fix takes 2 minutes or more, just like before, woth or without this program....

A-GPS
In the end, the Trinity has A-GPS(needs help from nearby cell network for quickfix, and the operators have to have it hardware enabled on their cell net), normal GPS or both? Because if its A-GPS maybe thats what affecting the tests

Thanks for this Cab.
This Cab work for gps intern . It is ok for gps extern ?? (extern with my trinity)

darkilici said:
In the end, the Trinity has A-GPS(needs help from nearby cell network for quickfix, and the operators have to have it hardware enabled on their cell net), normal GPS or both? Because if its A-GPS maybe thats what affecting the tests
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No A-GPS in the Trinity, only regular GPS.

Thats not what the wiki says (says it has both)

warnysouth said:
Thats not what the wiki says (says it has both)
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It sure does.. New information to me. Is this confirmed?

ofdrive said:
Hello,
I got this error window running it:
HttpSendRequest failed: 12007
Any idea?
Thanks!
(Italy (Rome), P3600 ROM Ita Test GPS Enabled)
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I get the same error while trying to update via GPRS.
Can't remember whether in the 1st try I succeeded.
No problems updating via ActiveSync, though.
Were you able to overcome this issue?
Thanks.

This does not work!
I've tried each of the different Quick GPS programs that download Ephemeris data as both the files xtra.bin and packedEphemeris.ee into the Windows directory, and it appears that neither of them are picked up and loaded into the GPS chipset. I can confirm that it doesn't get a fix any quicker than it would without it. Remember that once you've recently had a connection, the next time should be a lot faster anyway.
I'd like to be proven wrong, but it appears that there isn't a working version of uploading the data to the chipset for the Trinity.

ofdrive said:
Hello,
I got this error window running it:
HttpSendRequest failed: 12007
Any idea?
Thanks!
(Italy (Rome), P3600 ROM Ita Test GPS Enabled)
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you must connect to the internet and when the files will be downloaded ;p

how do you guys use gps?

hi folks,
how do you folks use gps? I have a p3600, already flashed w/ akeo wm6.1 build 19965; i read somewhere that if it's at version wm 6.1 that gps should already been enabled. anyway, I installed iGuidance version 3.0 and it couldn't find the gps. just thought how you folks use the gps.
thanks!

You should flash your PDA also with latest radio 1.56.70.11. Then you will have good working GPS

Make sure you've got it set to use com9

no luck
crankshaft said:
Make sure you've got it set to use com9
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i upgraded radio to 1.50, and used com port 9 but still no luck.
it still thinks i'm at another location but i can't get it to figure out that I'm not there anymore.
i recall, as I had another phone to play w/ that, i had to do something similar to that 'quick gps' download, then another one that actually kind of tells gps(?) where i'm at. is there something similar on the trinity? if not, what else can I do? what do you guys use? or the process that you go through.
thanks alot!

Also check the baud rate. Look in settings > system > external gps
mines set to com9 baud rate 115200
Make sure your GPS app is set to the same.
My radio rom is 1.56.70.11 but you should be fine with 1.50 & you're right, wm6.1 does have GPS enabled.
I'm using TomTom 7. It can can up to 10 minutes before it gets a signal. I have tried QuickGPS but am not convinced it makes any difference. Make sure you're outside too.

still no luck.
crankshaft said:
Also check the baud rate. Look in settings > system > external gps
mines set to com9 baud rate 115200
Make sure your GPS app is set to the same.
My radio rom is 1.56.70.11 but you should be fine with 1.50 & you're right, wm6.1 does have GPS enabled.
I'm using TomTom 7. It can can up to 10 minutes before it gets a signal. I have tried QuickGPS but am not convinced it makes any difference. Make sure you're outside too.
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so you just set these settings - com port, baud rate w/ in the 'external gps' settings, and in tomtom 7, it just works? you don't have to do anything else?
oh i would just love to get this working. thanks!

what rom are you using?
btw, what rom are you using? the default one? or a customized one?
I googled around and came across htc's site where there's a rom download that'll enable gps (and get free tomtom 6) but when I input my serial number it says it's not suitable for my device, did anyone try this?
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=3&cat=2&dl_id=111

that's right, stick em in and it's all go! I'm currently using g77 wm6.1 rom, the current one in his post in the wm6 forum but it's worked with every rom I've used, from wm5 up. Have you tried any other programs that can use gps? There's a few free ones aout, I know Wififofum can use it.
That's the original wm5 rom, it's old, not sure why it's got a recent date. Think there was a post in the wm6 forum about it the other day.
How long are you waiting for it to get a fix? I've never used iGuidance before, does it say anything like waiting for fix or saterlites?

crankshaft said:
that's right, stick em in and it's all go! I'm currently using g77 wm6.1 rom, the current one in his post in the wm6 forum but it's worked with every rom I've used, from wm5 up. Have you tried any other programs that can use gps? There's a few free ones aout, I know Wififofum can use it.
That's the original wm5 rom, it's old, not sure why it's got a recent date. Think there was a post in the wm6 forum about it the other day.
How long are you waiting for it to get a fix? I've never used iGuidance before, does it say anything like waiting for fix or saterlites?
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I downloaded Wififofum and on the bottom it shows "GPS: NotFix (0)", i'm using com port 9, i think this is the correct one as if I change to another com port, it just keeps saying "re-connecting". My radio version is pretty recent - 1.4.6 or so (same as yours actually). could the GPS be defective?
if I use iGuidance, it just says 'waiting for gps signal'

for your first GPS fix, it could take a very long time, even more if you're moving.
When you got some spare time, put your trinity close to a window, start up your GPS app, and leave it there for a while. Trinity has no aGPS, and I'm not sure if there's any software that can get it, and pass the data to any GPS app running.
If you change GPS configs on iGuidance, does the message 'waiting for gps signal' change to something else like "no GPS device" or so?

it works!!! yeh!!
hey guys, thanks so much for helping me out!
It works. I guess all this time, even though I put the phone right by my window here at the office it still wasn't good enough, I had to get out of my office and sit on some benches and after a couple of minutes iGuidance was able to know and show me exactly where I was.
the bottom line was I wanted to make sure that the gps wasn't defective....
thanks so much again for all you guys' help!
Aloha from Hawaii!

GPS not working

At first gps worked fine with tomtom and g.maps.
The problem started when the gps signal became losted and recovered every second or so. On and Off continuosly.
Other days worked everything right. And now It seems that there is no gps at all.
Tomtom alert: "no gps device" and g.maps dont get any satelite
So, Is this a hardware problem?
Could you help?
Thanks

It sounds like the Assisted GPS problem, make sure its switched off.
Settings->System->AGPS Settings
Uncheck the box and save the settings
Steve

I dont have this option
About gps, I have only "External GPS" at "settings"
Another way to swicht it off?

you can use the Advanced Config Tool or Tweak HD
Steve

I get this too, so will see if turning off AGPS helps.
Another way I found is tha if I run Google Maps, wait for that to get a lock, anything else taht uses GPS then works fine.

I tried HD Tweak, and switched A-gps off (option 18.5)
But nothing changes
There is no gps available for gmaps and tomtom
Any other ideas?
Thanks

Problem solved, I was really , so:
Backup & Hard reset, ... or better, fry it with a new ROM, now I have this one:
Dutty's HTC HD (BlackStone) ROM V2 XTREME
You can find it, of course, in this same great forum
It seems to be much better than original, faster, more complete...
gps and everything working fine...
I recommend it

GPS X9601

GPS problems
Ok so I have a North American GSM x9501...
Never used the GPS (Telenav isn't available to Canadian residense). This device is unlocked and NOT purchased from Rogers...
Downloaded Google maps, tried to use GPS and it wouldn't work. Set the settings manually Com4 57600 baud... It says searching for satalites, and has some HUGE number (54357734578) in brackets... GPS doesn't work.
Installed the HTC GPS tool, looks like GPS data is coming in, but can't get a fix. Then tried to use GPSgate, and it says GPS data is coming in but cannot get fix. Both of these two apps can't find any satalites.
Does anyone know what is up?

Zhariak said:
GPS problems
Ok so I have a North American GSM x9501...
Never used the GPS (Telenav isn't available to Canadian residense). This device is unlocked and NOT purchased from Rogers...
Downloaded Google maps, tried to use GPS and it wouldn't work. Set the settings manually Com4 57600 baud... It says searching for satalites, and has some HUGE number (54357734578) in brackets... GPS doesn't work.
Installed the HTC GPS tool, looks like GPS data is coming in, but can't get a fix. Then tried to use GPSgate, and it says GPS data is coming in but cannot get fix. Both of these two apps can't find any satalites.
Does anyone know what is up?
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yep, go out in middle of a field or open Terrace or any place where you can see the sky above you head directly and then start google maps with GPS or HTC GPS tool or GPS gate etc , wait 3-5 min and then it should have fix...
cheers

I've given is some time... Probably over 5 minutes...
It's just odd, I have lots of experiencing using GPS software and devices. It looks like it should be working, the only odd behaviour is:
1) It finds no satalites
and
2) Google Maps says "Seeking Satalites (3874732644)" which is odd, because theres not that many GPS satalites, lol.

Change the Baud Rate to 9600 and see whether it will work.

Tried different baud rates.
Yesterday I let it sit for 15 minutes on google maps until finally it said there was no reception...
And I know I have reception because I was outside. Both my TytN II and HP iPaq have no trouble aquiring fix's...

download free VISUALGPS CE and install. Then connect it to COM4 and press start.
See the NMEA log monitor section. You should see lot's of data, if not, your GPS might be bad.
I'm unsure if your 9501 will work with the ROM's we use in Europe to make calls, and have GPS enabled.. If it's OK, I would flash Thai Hugo's Age of Reason and check again your GPS.

I'm using the factory ROM for the X9501 (Which does support GPS off the bat).
I used the HTC tool, and it looked like NMEA data was going through...

Zhariak said:
I'm using the factory ROM for the X9501 (Which does support GPS off the bat).
I used the HTC tool, and it looked like NMEA data was going through...
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On the HTC tool there is option to see the satellites , check if its has any satellites on red color, if so keep the shift out in terrace or garden until 3 satellite color changes to green , have patience....
if it does not show any satellite on the HTC tool then probably you need to flash the rom with some new rom from the forum ..
Before you do that make a copy of your Stock/original rom ..see forum for instruction
PS: Since you have the stock / orginal rom X9501....would you do me a favour and check if you connect to head set and on Windows mobile side WM6, can you record a message and then play back and you can hear your self back .... I wanted to know if the mic works with head set on WM6 side...for the Stock 9501 ROM.
Cheers.

shawankit said:
On the HTC tool there is option to see the satellites , check if its has any satellites on red color, if so keep the shift out in terrace or garden until 3 satellite color changes to green , have patience....
if it does not show any satellite on the HTC tool then probably you need to flash the rom with some new rom from the forum ..
Before you do that make a copy of your Stock/original rom ..see forum for instruction
PS: Since you have the stock / orginal rom X9501....would you do me a favour and check if you connect to head set and on Windows mobile side WM6, can you record a message and then play back and you can hear your self back .... I wanted to know if the mic works with head set on WM6 side...for the Stock 9501 ROM.
Cheers.
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Yes the Mic works, I helped Comonex with some testing to find out which radio firmwares supported the Mic.
Yes I can record/playback on the Windows Mobile side, and Yes skype works, etc....

Zhariak said:
Yes the Mic works, I helped Comonex with some testing to find out which radio firmwares supported the Mic.
Yes I can record/playback on the Windows Mobile side, and Yes skype works, etc....
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Did you find satellites on your GPS Tool ? either red or green in color ?
Thanks for letting us know that the head set works on wm6 side ....

shawankit said:
Did you find satellites on your GPS Tool ? either red or green in color ?
Thanks for letting us know that the head set works on wm6 side ....
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No problem.
Like I said, zero satelites...

Zhariak said:
No problem.
Like I said, zero satelites...
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Can I ask another favour , do you have any registry editor installed on you shift.
if so , can try to dump/export the registry settings for HKLocalMachine (HKLM) to a xml ot reg file and then copy / upload the xml/reg file here .
we want to use head set with X9500 shift and are trying to find a solution , may be its a reg setting that can fix the problem.
Appreciate your kind help

shawankit said:
Can I ask another favour , do you have any registry editor installed on you shift.
if so , can try to dump/export the registry settings for HKLocalMachine (HKLM) to a xml ot reg file and then copy / upload the xml/reg file here .
we want to use head set with X9500 shift and are trying to find a solution , may be its a reg setting that can fix the problem.
Appreciate your kind help
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I thought all the issues were fixed with the Shift's and headset usage?

Zhariak said:
I thought all the issues were fixed with the Shift's and headset usage?
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Nope , the issue is we cannot use the head set in WM6 as the mic on Head set does not work....so we have to use the speaker phone and its not good for phone calls private or business.
I would appreciate if you can help us to resolve the issue , if you can dump the reg keys for HKLM / Drivers/inbuilt ... it might give us some direction.
Appreciate your support.

No trace of anything GPS in wm6

I have a p3300 obviously that i bought with wm6 already on it. The problem is, there is no trace of gps in the registry and in the settings there is only an option for external gps, nothing more. Is there a way to install drivers for the gps only? I'm not sure i'm comfortable flashing seeing as there are so many roms out there for different carriers.. I'm on fido in canada btw

victorhuge said:
I have a p3300 obviously that i bought with wm6 already on it. The problem is, there is no trace of gps in the registry and in the settings there is only an option for external gps, nothing more. Is there a way to install drivers for the gps only? I'm not sure i'm comfortable flashing seeing as there are so many roms out there for different carriers.. I'm on fido in canada btw
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Hi
If you mean GPS program, you could always install Navigon.
http://www.navigon.com/portal/sites.html
There is a 30 days free testversion of their Navigator7.
Just remember to change COM-port from 4 to 7 on either the device or in the program.

Oh my mistake, what I meant was that I can not get any satellites with any program. I flashed it yesterday to WM6.1 (Andrew82) but aside from some slight improvements, it made no difference to the function of the gps. I cannot get a fix from any software that i've tried, it's as if the GPS isn't there (although gps test 1.04 says that the gps is starting up, nothing happens). Are there some drivers or something that I can install?
I tried setting com ports to 7/none/4800/auto However, I though it was supposed to be 4/none/4800/auto in the settings, no?
Also if it helps, I only have a setting for external gps, there is nothing with just GPS there in system...
I've tried all kinds of resets, factory rom, but its the same story im afraid... Any ideas HIGHLY appreciated
Also, the HTC gps tool says "Fix not available"

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I tried setting com ports to 7/none/4800/auto However, I though it was supposed to be 4/none/4800/auto in the settings, no?
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It is only the NAVIGON software that uses COM7.
Others I have seen, use COM4. - (So unless you change to Navigon, use COM4.)
victorhuge said:
I've tried all kinds of resets, factory rom, but its the same story im afraid... Any ideas HIGHLY appreciated
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I also use AndreW82, but it has no GPS software.
So I use Tomtom Navigator 7
If you use other GPS-software, - have you checked that the program asks for COM4?
Probably som .dat file or something that needs to be altered to COM4.
I had the same problem when I tried Navigon.
First it reported "no GPS found" But after I altered one of the .dat files to COM4, it found the GPS.
(But it took a veeeeeeeeery long time before it found the first sattelites.)
If you want to try, I have attached a test-version of Tomtom. (tomtom7.cab below)
According to Tomtom, NO such testversion exists.
But if you try it, you will at least see if your GPS is working.
(I don't know if it has any maps for Canadian Cities, but at least it should let you see if it finds any sattelites.)
1. Install the cab.
2. Start Tomtom Navigator
3. If settings does not come up automatically, just tap somewhere on the screen.
4. Select, Change preferences
5. Tap blue arrow 5 times
6. Tap Config GPS
And wait for it to find sattelites. Be patient, first time it takes a little longer time.