how do you guys use gps? - P3600 General

hi folks,
how do you folks use gps? I have a p3600, already flashed w/ akeo wm6.1 build 19965; i read somewhere that if it's at version wm 6.1 that gps should already been enabled. anyway, I installed iGuidance version 3.0 and it couldn't find the gps. just thought how you folks use the gps.
thanks!

You should flash your PDA also with latest radio 1.56.70.11. Then you will have good working GPS

Make sure you've got it set to use com9

no luck
crankshaft said:
Make sure you've got it set to use com9
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i upgraded radio to 1.50, and used com port 9 but still no luck.
it still thinks i'm at another location but i can't get it to figure out that I'm not there anymore.
i recall, as I had another phone to play w/ that, i had to do something similar to that 'quick gps' download, then another one that actually kind of tells gps(?) where i'm at. is there something similar on the trinity? if not, what else can I do? what do you guys use? or the process that you go through.
thanks alot!

Also check the baud rate. Look in settings > system > external gps
mines set to com9 baud rate 115200
Make sure your GPS app is set to the same.
My radio rom is 1.56.70.11 but you should be fine with 1.50 & you're right, wm6.1 does have GPS enabled.
I'm using TomTom 7. It can can up to 10 minutes before it gets a signal. I have tried QuickGPS but am not convinced it makes any difference. Make sure you're outside too.

still no luck.
crankshaft said:
Also check the baud rate. Look in settings > system > external gps
mines set to com9 baud rate 115200
Make sure your GPS app is set to the same.
My radio rom is 1.56.70.11 but you should be fine with 1.50 & you're right, wm6.1 does have GPS enabled.
I'm using TomTom 7. It can can up to 10 minutes before it gets a signal. I have tried QuickGPS but am not convinced it makes any difference. Make sure you're outside too.
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so you just set these settings - com port, baud rate w/ in the 'external gps' settings, and in tomtom 7, it just works? you don't have to do anything else?
oh i would just love to get this working. thanks!

what rom are you using?
btw, what rom are you using? the default one? or a customized one?
I googled around and came across htc's site where there's a rom download that'll enable gps (and get free tomtom 6) but when I input my serial number it says it's not suitable for my device, did anyone try this?
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=3&cat=2&dl_id=111

that's right, stick em in and it's all go! I'm currently using g77 wm6.1 rom, the current one in his post in the wm6 forum but it's worked with every rom I've used, from wm5 up. Have you tried any other programs that can use gps? There's a few free ones aout, I know Wififofum can use it.
That's the original wm5 rom, it's old, not sure why it's got a recent date. Think there was a post in the wm6 forum about it the other day.
How long are you waiting for it to get a fix? I've never used iGuidance before, does it say anything like waiting for fix or saterlites?

crankshaft said:
that's right, stick em in and it's all go! I'm currently using g77 wm6.1 rom, the current one in his post in the wm6 forum but it's worked with every rom I've used, from wm5 up. Have you tried any other programs that can use gps? There's a few free ones aout, I know Wififofum can use it.
That's the original wm5 rom, it's old, not sure why it's got a recent date. Think there was a post in the wm6 forum about it the other day.
How long are you waiting for it to get a fix? I've never used iGuidance before, does it say anything like waiting for fix or saterlites?
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I downloaded Wififofum and on the bottom it shows "GPS: NotFix (0)", i'm using com port 9, i think this is the correct one as if I change to another com port, it just keeps saying "re-connecting". My radio version is pretty recent - 1.4.6 or so (same as yours actually). could the GPS be defective?
if I use iGuidance, it just says 'waiting for gps signal'

for your first GPS fix, it could take a very long time, even more if you're moving.
When you got some spare time, put your trinity close to a window, start up your GPS app, and leave it there for a while. Trinity has no aGPS, and I'm not sure if there's any software that can get it, and pass the data to any GPS app running.
If you change GPS configs on iGuidance, does the message 'waiting for gps signal' change to something else like "no GPS device" or so?

it works!!! yeh!!
hey guys, thanks so much for helping me out!
It works. I guess all this time, even though I put the phone right by my window here at the office it still wasn't good enough, I had to get out of my office and sit on some benches and after a couple of minutes iGuidance was able to know and show me exactly where I was.
the bottom line was I wanted to make sure that the gps wasn't defective....
thanks so much again for all you guys' help!
Aloha from Hawaii!

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Garmin Mobile XT Update

Has anyone had any problems with the new Garmin XT update version 4.20.40w. I updated yesterday and now it will no longer find a GPS located on com 4, it will only find the "GPS Intermediate Driver." If anyone else has experienced this problem, or has any answers please help me out. Thanks
I'm using DCD 3.0.0, with Sprint.
h121h said:
Has anyone had any problems with the new Garmin XT update version 4.20.40w. I updated yesterday and now it will no longer find a GPS located on com 4, it will only find the "GPS Intermediate Driver." If anyone else has experienced this problem, or has any answers please help me out. Thanks
I'm using DCD 3.0.0, with Sprint.
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Sounds like a similar issue with 4.20.30. I would stick with 4.20.20, as that is verified as working.
Thanks for the reply roninld. I did not know there was an issue with 4.20.30, guess I will go back and downgrade.
roninld said:
Sounds like a similar issue with 4.20.30. I would stick with 4.20.20, as that is verified as working.
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Where can I get the 4.20.20 version? I don't see an option to download previous versions on their website.
I am currently running version 4.10.40
Version 4.20.20 can be downloaded here: http://www.gpsinformation.org/perry/gps10/GarminMobileXTforWindowsMobile_42020w.exe
I've been using "GPS Intermediate Driver" since start using Garmin Mobile XT. When upgraded to 4.20.40, it tried to hook up with COM4, but very slow. I went back directly to the Intermediate Driver.
Coolpics said:
I've been using "GPS Intermediate Driver" since start using Garmin Mobile XT. When upgraded to 4.20.40, it tried to hook up with COM4, but very slow. I went back directly to the Intermediate Driver.
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I've thought about trying that and seeing how that works out. What's the difference between Intermediate Driver and the actual GPS on COM4. I wonder if there is any accuracy difference?
4.20.50w is now out from Garmin. I'm going to download it to my phone soon. I haven't has problems with Mobile XT. .3 and /4 have been fine with me.
hey guys, quick question. Garmin works well on my mogul, but i realized it's using the "intermediate driver" My main questions are: What exactly does that mean, and is it a bad thing?
I've tried setting it to use com4, but it searches and i guess automatically sets itself to intermediate. I'm running 4.20.50 btw
IIIMik3 said:
hey guys, quick question. Garmin works well on my mogul, but i realized it's using the "intermediate driver" My main questions are: What exactly does that mean, and is it a bad thing?
I've tried setting it to use com4, but it searches and i guess automatically sets itself to intermediate. I'm running 4.20.50 btw
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At least for me, it seemed like whenever I went to the Intermediate Driver, my time would reset back to a previous time date. That was one of the main problems with any version above 4.20.20wp that I ran into.
Thanks
roninld said:
At least for me, it seemed like whenever I went to the Intermediate Driver, my time would reset back to a previous time date. That was one of the main problems with any version above 4.20.20wp that I ran into.
Thanks
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Oh well actually i was just looking to find out what it means to be using the intermediate driver, as opposed to com4 and whether or not it's a bad thing.
roninld said:
At least for me, it seemed like whenever I went to the Intermediate Driver, my time would reset back to a previous time date. That was one of the main problems with any version above 4.20.20wp that I ran into.
Thanks
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I had the same problem and went back to 4.20.20wp. I'm hoping a new version will fix this.
chopstick89 said:
I had the same problem and went back to 4.20.20wp. I'm hoping a new version will fix this.
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I think i've deduced that it only screws up the clock if it isn't able to get a sat lock and then you exit. Otherwise it works fine for me, as long as it gets a sat lock, even using the intermediate driver.
IIIMik3 said:
I think i've deduced that it only screws up the clock if it isn't able to get a sat lock and then you exit. Otherwise it works fine for me, as long as it gets a sat lock, even using the intermediate driver.
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I've come to the same conclusion.
Cycomachead said:
4.20.50w is now out from Garmin. I'm going to download it to my phone soon. I haven't has problems with Mobile XT. .3 and /4 have been fine with me.
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.50w runs faster than the previous versions (screen response, route calculation, etc) I've noticed, and much more stable than .30w or .40w.
Seems to me tho that 0.50w will always go for the intermediate driver, and hence the time reset. 0.20w the serial com4 setting stays 'sticky' so no problem with reset time even if a lock not found.
I am having a problem with Mobile XT not closing the GPS connection correctly when you exit the application. If I shut my phone off/on and run mobile XT the program runs great with no issues. GPS is flawless on com4. When I exit the application there is no errors however if I try to restart the GPS never works again. Also the GPS will cease to function in other apps such as Google Maps. A soft-reset does not fix the issue either. I have to actually shut the phone off/on to gain use of the GPS again...any thoughts? Running DCD 3.2.6 and radio 3.42.50
Ok... This is the first time I've tried Garmin Mobile XT. I want to know what the hype's about. What am I missing to get this to work? I downloaded and installed verzion .50.. but without a "Registration code" It won't let me connect to anything but a Garmin device.
I currently use TomTom 7
Hehe well you need to install the app then turn around and grab city navigator to put maps on it. There are "sites" around that provide what you need. As to my issue I think I narrowed it down to when I actually lock the phone with windows mobile. If I do not lock it things appear to work fine...
Now why use garmin XT over the others. Only reason is NAVTEQ. Navteq maps are by far better compared to the crap TeleAtlas has. Living in Iowa, I think TeleAtlas forgot we were a state whereas Navteq at least gives a damn heh.
iGo8, Tomtom = teleatlas
Garmin XT = navteq
Gotcha. Ok.. I got it to allow me to see the GPS... now I just need the maps. I'm trying to get them off of my C330 using gpsdaemon. just not having any luck

GPS settings for 1.56

Hi everyone
I have recently updated to 1.56.405.1 ROM which also included Radio update to 1.13.25.24. However, I have noticed that my GPS no longer works on this ROM. in google maps, it shows "Seeking GPS satellites(0)" forever.(Com4 port for internal and none for external devices) I tries changing baud rate to different settings - 9600, 57000 etc, but even if I press "ok" after setting baud rate, somehow, it comes back to its original to 4800. How this happens ???? its really frustrating. My earlier ROM (1.19.xx) used to show GPS position using Googe maps.
Can any1 guide me how to make things work here?? Also, can some1 please post ideal GPS settings?
I know this will not be helpful, but I'm using Miri wm6.5 v9.2 which my gps locks on within 30 secs on TomTom, Memory-Map and Garmin. Google maps locks in quickly. I used the default settings (com 4) and all works fine.
The ideal GPS settings are default settings
Program port: COM4
Hardware port: none
Baud rate: 4800
Manage GPS automatically: checked
Any other settings of GPS you should set from GPS application.
Thanks guys...I'll try these and reply you back here. Please do read this thread after a couple of days.
default setting is baudrate:9600 isn't it?
No, read above, please
Can you actually change the baud rate? It reverts back to 4800 when you re-enter the settings, so I can't change it at all.
To,
the person above this post
same here dude !! earlier I could change in 1.19XX rom. but ever since I have flashed to 1.56, i'm facin this problem you've mentioned.
BTW, do you get GPS application working properly or same like mine?? [pls. read 1st post in this thread]
Regards
Ash
If you read up in the internet, you can read everywhere that the default value for the baudrate is 9600, so that the internal GPS receiver is demanded best of all in navigation software.
And you say it would be in 4800 now?
i have the same new stock rom and i have four working gps programs which all also lock to satellites within thirty seconds without ever seeing the settings yet along changing them :S are you guys sure this problem is not self inflected .. i wish i could help but i have no idea how..
the applications i use are route99, garmin, navNgo and another one which i forgot since i dont use that often.
koboltzz said:
If you read up in the internet, you can read everywhere that the default value for the baudrate is 9600, so that the internal GPS receiver is demanded best of all in navigation software.
And you say it would be in 4800 now?
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Not true.... i have done a lot of reading into this on various forums and settings can depend on radio's, roms, devices and software used. Also i am using 1.56 wwe and my default settings are 4800, com4, none hardware port, windows manage and my gps works fine, cold start about 20 secs, warm start up about 5 secs depending on location and weather conditions!
Conclusion, well i dont have one yet, i am trying to compile a list of typical settings device specific but it is fairly obvious that there are a lots various circumstances
For those interested in whys and hows heres some bedtime reading for starters:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363431
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375959&page=6
http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&...WDx9c&boostcse=0&q=gps+settings&start=40&sa=N
What I've noticed on 1.56.401.0 WWE ROM is that GPS fix with Garmin Mobile XT is much faster, but the icon on Garmin "home" screen shows as no signal. I can navigate as before, maybe even better, just this funny thing with signal indicator... Any1 else with this issue?
ash3012 said:
Hi everyone
I have recently updated to 1.56.405.1 ROM which also included Radio update to 1.13.25.24. However, I have noticed that my GPS no longer works on this ROM. in google maps, it shows "Seeking GPS satellites(0)" forever.(Com4 port for internal and none for external devices) I tries changing baud rate to different settings - 9600, 57000 etc, but even if I press "ok" after setting baud rate, somehow, it comes back to its original to 4800. How this happens ???? its really frustrating. My earlier ROM (1.19.xx) used to show GPS position using Googe maps.
Can any1 guide me how to make things work here?? Also, can some1 please post ideal GPS settings?
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Hello ash3012,
I'm having the exact same problem, can u please tell me how did u resolve the issue?
thanks

GPS X9601

GPS problems
Ok so I have a North American GSM x9501...
Never used the GPS (Telenav isn't available to Canadian residense). This device is unlocked and NOT purchased from Rogers...
Downloaded Google maps, tried to use GPS and it wouldn't work. Set the settings manually Com4 57600 baud... It says searching for satalites, and has some HUGE number (54357734578) in brackets... GPS doesn't work.
Installed the HTC GPS tool, looks like GPS data is coming in, but can't get a fix. Then tried to use GPSgate, and it says GPS data is coming in but cannot get fix. Both of these two apps can't find any satalites.
Does anyone know what is up?
Zhariak said:
GPS problems
Ok so I have a North American GSM x9501...
Never used the GPS (Telenav isn't available to Canadian residense). This device is unlocked and NOT purchased from Rogers...
Downloaded Google maps, tried to use GPS and it wouldn't work. Set the settings manually Com4 57600 baud... It says searching for satalites, and has some HUGE number (54357734578) in brackets... GPS doesn't work.
Installed the HTC GPS tool, looks like GPS data is coming in, but can't get a fix. Then tried to use GPSgate, and it says GPS data is coming in but cannot get fix. Both of these two apps can't find any satalites.
Does anyone know what is up?
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yep, go out in middle of a field or open Terrace or any place where you can see the sky above you head directly and then start google maps with GPS or HTC GPS tool or GPS gate etc , wait 3-5 min and then it should have fix...
cheers
I've given is some time... Probably over 5 minutes...
It's just odd, I have lots of experiencing using GPS software and devices. It looks like it should be working, the only odd behaviour is:
1) It finds no satalites
and
2) Google Maps says "Seeking Satalites (3874732644)" which is odd, because theres not that many GPS satalites, lol.
Change the Baud Rate to 9600 and see whether it will work.
Tried different baud rates.
Yesterday I let it sit for 15 minutes on google maps until finally it said there was no reception...
And I know I have reception because I was outside. Both my TytN II and HP iPaq have no trouble aquiring fix's...
download free VISUALGPS CE and install. Then connect it to COM4 and press start.
See the NMEA log monitor section. You should see lot's of data, if not, your GPS might be bad.
I'm unsure if your 9501 will work with the ROM's we use in Europe to make calls, and have GPS enabled.. If it's OK, I would flash Thai Hugo's Age of Reason and check again your GPS.
I'm using the factory ROM for the X9501 (Which does support GPS off the bat).
I used the HTC tool, and it looked like NMEA data was going through...
Zhariak said:
I'm using the factory ROM for the X9501 (Which does support GPS off the bat).
I used the HTC tool, and it looked like NMEA data was going through...
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On the HTC tool there is option to see the satellites , check if its has any satellites on red color, if so keep the shift out in terrace or garden until 3 satellite color changes to green , have patience....
if it does not show any satellite on the HTC tool then probably you need to flash the rom with some new rom from the forum ..
Before you do that make a copy of your Stock/original rom ..see forum for instruction
PS: Since you have the stock / orginal rom X9501....would you do me a favour and check if you connect to head set and on Windows mobile side WM6, can you record a message and then play back and you can hear your self back .... I wanted to know if the mic works with head set on WM6 side...for the Stock 9501 ROM.
Cheers.
shawankit said:
On the HTC tool there is option to see the satellites , check if its has any satellites on red color, if so keep the shift out in terrace or garden until 3 satellite color changes to green , have patience....
if it does not show any satellite on the HTC tool then probably you need to flash the rom with some new rom from the forum ..
Before you do that make a copy of your Stock/original rom ..see forum for instruction
PS: Since you have the stock / orginal rom X9501....would you do me a favour and check if you connect to head set and on Windows mobile side WM6, can you record a message and then play back and you can hear your self back .... I wanted to know if the mic works with head set on WM6 side...for the Stock 9501 ROM.
Cheers.
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Yes the Mic works, I helped Comonex with some testing to find out which radio firmwares supported the Mic.
Yes I can record/playback on the Windows Mobile side, and Yes skype works, etc....
Zhariak said:
Yes the Mic works, I helped Comonex with some testing to find out which radio firmwares supported the Mic.
Yes I can record/playback on the Windows Mobile side, and Yes skype works, etc....
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Did you find satellites on your GPS Tool ? either red or green in color ?
Thanks for letting us know that the head set works on wm6 side ....
shawankit said:
Did you find satellites on your GPS Tool ? either red or green in color ?
Thanks for letting us know that the head set works on wm6 side ....
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No problem.
Like I said, zero satelites...
Zhariak said:
No problem.
Like I said, zero satelites...
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Can I ask another favour , do you have any registry editor installed on you shift.
if so , can try to dump/export the registry settings for HKLocalMachine (HKLM) to a xml ot reg file and then copy / upload the xml/reg file here .
we want to use head set with X9500 shift and are trying to find a solution , may be its a reg setting that can fix the problem.
Appreciate your kind help
shawankit said:
Can I ask another favour , do you have any registry editor installed on you shift.
if so , can try to dump/export the registry settings for HKLocalMachine (HKLM) to a xml ot reg file and then copy / upload the xml/reg file here .
we want to use head set with X9500 shift and are trying to find a solution , may be its a reg setting that can fix the problem.
Appreciate your kind help
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I thought all the issues were fixed with the Shift's and headset usage?
Zhariak said:
I thought all the issues were fixed with the Shift's and headset usage?
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Nope , the issue is we cannot use the head set in WM6 as the mic on Head set does not work....so we have to use the speaker phone and its not good for phone calls private or business.
I would appreciate if you can help us to resolve the issue , if you can dump the reg keys for HKLM / Drivers/inbuilt ... it might give us some direction.
Appreciate your support.

Can see satellites, but no lock-ever

title says it, followed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533639
PERFECTLY. now, in gps viewer it can see like 10 satellites, but wont lock.
any ideas??
i really love wm6.5 btw, huge upgrade
nobody?? ive tried just about every tutorial i can find
I think we need a little more info. It sounds like your running on of the custom 6.5 roms, which one? Who is your carrier? What radio version are you running? What software have you added?
gjbnh said:
I think we need a little more info. It sounds like your running on of the custom 6.5 roms, which one? Who is your carrier? What radio version are you running? What software have you added?
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NFSFANS V14 6.5
verizon
radio 3.42.50
no added software, just what came on the rom.
thanks for any help
I usuallly use TomTom & I had a problem yesterday. I could not get a lock even after 3-45 minutes. I think normally I have TomTom confugured for Built-in GPS receiver. Just for the heck of it I tried in using other NMEA GPS receiver. Configured it 4800 & com 4. I was then able to lock within a minute. I would try & make sure you external GPS settings are set to the same. Also make your in you phone settings that location is on.

No trace of anything GPS in wm6

I have a p3300 obviously that i bought with wm6 already on it. The problem is, there is no trace of gps in the registry and in the settings there is only an option for external gps, nothing more. Is there a way to install drivers for the gps only? I'm not sure i'm comfortable flashing seeing as there are so many roms out there for different carriers.. I'm on fido in canada btw
victorhuge said:
I have a p3300 obviously that i bought with wm6 already on it. The problem is, there is no trace of gps in the registry and in the settings there is only an option for external gps, nothing more. Is there a way to install drivers for the gps only? I'm not sure i'm comfortable flashing seeing as there are so many roms out there for different carriers.. I'm on fido in canada btw
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Hi
If you mean GPS program, you could always install Navigon.
http://www.navigon.com/portal/sites.html
There is a 30 days free testversion of their Navigator7.
Just remember to change COM-port from 4 to 7 on either the device or in the program.
Oh my mistake, what I meant was that I can not get any satellites with any program. I flashed it yesterday to WM6.1 (Andrew82) but aside from some slight improvements, it made no difference to the function of the gps. I cannot get a fix from any software that i've tried, it's as if the GPS isn't there (although gps test 1.04 says that the gps is starting up, nothing happens). Are there some drivers or something that I can install?
I tried setting com ports to 7/none/4800/auto However, I though it was supposed to be 4/none/4800/auto in the settings, no?
Also if it helps, I only have a setting for external gps, there is nothing with just GPS there in system...
I've tried all kinds of resets, factory rom, but its the same story im afraid... Any ideas HIGHLY appreciated
Also, the HTC gps tool says "Fix not available"
victorhuge said:
I tried setting com ports to 7/none/4800/auto However, I though it was supposed to be 4/none/4800/auto in the settings, no?
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It is only the NAVIGON software that uses COM7.
Others I have seen, use COM4. - (So unless you change to Navigon, use COM4.)
victorhuge said:
I've tried all kinds of resets, factory rom, but its the same story im afraid... Any ideas HIGHLY appreciated
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I also use AndreW82, but it has no GPS software.
So I use Tomtom Navigator 7
If you use other GPS-software, - have you checked that the program asks for COM4?
Probably som .dat file or something that needs to be altered to COM4.
I had the same problem when I tried Navigon.
First it reported "no GPS found" But after I altered one of the .dat files to COM4, it found the GPS.
(But it took a veeeeeeeeery long time before it found the first sattelites.)
If you want to try, I have attached a test-version of Tomtom. (tomtom7.cab below)
According to Tomtom, NO such testversion exists.
But if you try it, you will at least see if your GPS is working.
(I don't know if it has any maps for Canadian Cities, but at least it should let you see if it finds any sattelites.)
1. Install the cab.
2. Start Tomtom Navigator
3. If settings does not come up automatically, just tap somewhere on the screen.
4. Select, Change preferences
5. Tap blue arrow 5 times
6. Tap Config GPS
And wait for it to find sattelites. Be patient, first time it takes a little longer time.

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