P3600 fix gps cold start RAPID! - P3600 General

TESTED OK OK!!!!
QGPS: improve your TTFF to seconds!
If you have a PPC with built-in GPS - this software is for you.
This is a small freeware that downloads Ephemeris data to your PPC using an internet connection with Activesync. If your GPS was off for more than 4 hours, then the next time you start it up you get a cold start , where the Ephemeris data needs to be DL to the receiver. This can take a few seconds to a few minutes, depending on your device and location.
The software downloads this data to your PPC so that you , in fact , get a warm start!
Just start the program, click the Connect button (no need for the 10 days data), and within a few seconds , you get the most up-to-date data. Now go outside and start your GPS program - you'll get a fix within 10 seconds!
Link:
http://www.avaricum.net/
Download:
http://www.avaricum.net/qgps.cab

I doubt it works for our P3600, I tried the HP version once (found on this forum) and noticed no change at all, but I'll try this one and see of it helps....

WOW IT WORKS! (unlike the HP one...)
<10s fix. Although it seems to crash some of my GPS programs....now if someone can write a script to make it automatically download data everyday via activesync that would be awesome
THANKS A MILLION!

It tried it quickly and it seemed to work very well !
(on a Trinity Orange SPV M700 Fr)

I tried this with GPS Tuner, and it got a fix in under 10 seconds from a cold start. Whether this is luck or not I don't know, so will test it over then next few days.
It's a vanilla m700 with no rom udates etc

I have the problem that this tools doesn't pass the proxy server @ work.
any chance to change this manually?

Hello,
I got this error window running it:
HttpSendRequest failed: 12007
Any idea?
Thanks!
(Italy (Rome), P3600 ROM Ita Test GPS Enabled)

The_Stranger said:
I doubt it works for our P3600, I tried the HP version once (found on this forum) and noticed no change at all, but I'll try this one and see of it helps....
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To quote myself, I tried it now, and still a cold fix takes 2 minutes or more, just like before, woth or without this program....

A-GPS
In the end, the Trinity has A-GPS(needs help from nearby cell network for quickfix, and the operators have to have it hardware enabled on their cell net), normal GPS or both? Because if its A-GPS maybe thats what affecting the tests

Thanks for this Cab.
This Cab work for gps intern . It is ok for gps extern ?? (extern with my trinity)

darkilici said:
In the end, the Trinity has A-GPS(needs help from nearby cell network for quickfix, and the operators have to have it hardware enabled on their cell net), normal GPS or both? Because if its A-GPS maybe thats what affecting the tests
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No A-GPS in the Trinity, only regular GPS.

Thats not what the wiki says (says it has both)

warnysouth said:
Thats not what the wiki says (says it has both)
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It sure does.. New information to me. Is this confirmed?

ofdrive said:
Hello,
I got this error window running it:
HttpSendRequest failed: 12007
Any idea?
Thanks!
(Italy (Rome), P3600 ROM Ita Test GPS Enabled)
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I get the same error while trying to update via GPRS.
Can't remember whether in the 1st try I succeeded.
No problems updating via ActiveSync, though.
Were you able to overcome this issue?
Thanks.

This does not work!
I've tried each of the different Quick GPS programs that download Ephemeris data as both the files xtra.bin and packedEphemeris.ee into the Windows directory, and it appears that neither of them are picked up and loaded into the GPS chipset. I can confirm that it doesn't get a fix any quicker than it would without it. Remember that once you've recently had a connection, the next time should be a lot faster anyway.
I'd like to be proven wrong, but it appears that there isn't a working version of uploading the data to the chipset for the Trinity.

ofdrive said:
Hello,
I got this error window running it:
HttpSendRequest failed: 12007
Any idea?
Thanks!
(Italy (Rome), P3600 ROM Ita Test GPS Enabled)
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you must connect to the internet and when the files will be downloaded ;p

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Problems with the GPS

I have tried the GPS now for a while and I cant get it to work. I use TomTom 7
I have had it outside for atleast 4-5 minutes and it cant find any satellites
Is there anything I have to do to get it to work?
It only says "Searching for GPS-satellites"...
Hello, what is the version of radio have you got ?
Have you test with Google Maps if the GPS get satellites ?
Look at this post if you find a solution
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2563369&postcount=6
Oijkn said:
Hello, what is the version of radio have you got ?
Have you test with Google Maps if the GPS get satellites ?
Look at this post if you find a solution
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2563369&postcount=6
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I have the 1.00.25.05
ok normaly with this radio is correct but you can try with the ver .08 here
tell me if is ok now
do you have quickgps enabled ?
topuli said:
do you have quickgps enabled ?
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Normaly no. Just active it for very bad reception satellites i think.
the gps uses the file you get with quickgps to faster identify the satellites. after 3 days (i think) the file is out of date. if the file is out of date the gps part dose the identification and cycles through the satellites. this can take up to several minutesl. try to activate quickgps und you will get a much faster fix.
I don't think his problem is about getting a faster fix or not.
He's GPS function just does not work properly and cannot read properly the datas received from the satellites, if it ever receives some...
I know the problem because i'm having exactly the same trouble with my Diamond right now, and I even started a thread about this.
You can read it also as a reference if you want.
I used to own a Trinity before, so I can tell without any doubt that there is something wrong with the GPS function on some Diamond, and it is not just a problem of waiting longer or so.
I read the experience from other users and only some radical measures have managed to make their GPS 'wake up' for good:
- erasing the old GPS log files stored in the phone
- taking the battery out of the phone for more than one day and then try to reset it again
- many hard resets and flashing
etc.
If someone who was having the same kind of major GPS problems (GPS not detected at all, Satellites not localized at all etc.) can tell us how he managed to wake his GPS up, that would be great.
With Google Maps you have a GPS Fix or not ? What soft do you use for GPS ?
Perhaps you can test with this soft if it active a good signal. Efficasoft GPS Utilities for Pocket PC
I finally found a solution to wake up my sleeping (beauty) GPS.
The most helpful infos were in that post below, but I did pick other datas here and there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2563369&postcount=6
The funniest thing is that this problem looks like a hardware one, but in fact it's all software related. A problem of configuration, due to the A-GPS function probably.
From what I understand, if you use A-GPS (I mean if you really have access to this special service through your phone operator) everything is fine.
If you don't, then you may get into big troubles like I and many others did...
1) make sure A-GPS function is desactivated (nothing to do with the Quick GPS function)
2)
... just follow the instructions provided by the Oijkn on the link above.
3)
delete as well the file(s) GPSlogs.txt in the windows directory
4)
soft reset
5)
enjoy a very efficient GPS
Thanks everyone, now it works
It seems to be a problem with the A-GPS
Ok i'm happy for you if all it's good
Hi, the link to the post of Oijkn doesn't work, would you mind describing the procedure step by step to improve the GPS performance?
Thank you
peppepep said:
Hi, the link to the post of Oijkn doesn't work, would you mind describing the procedure step by step to improve the GPS performance?
Thank you
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Hi, i paste my post here if you can't read it.
Oijkn said:
hello excuse for my poor english (i'm french).
1 - Soft reset your PPC
2 - Find the file “xtra.bin” (dans \windows et \temp)
3 - Delete the file “xtra.bin”
4 - Reboot your PPC
5 - Prove that there is no more validity of GPSRapide.
(don't download the update)
6 - Try with TT7 now to pick up satellites
7 - If TT7 still does not work put has GPSRapide day by downloading the updating.
PS: Or try in manuel settings, Bauds 57 600 / COM : 4
You can try to launch Google Maps and activate the GPS signal then wait 1 or 2 minutes for the fix.
And then try with TOMTOM, i think with the two solution it's will work fine for you
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riri22 said:
1) make sure A-GPS function is desactivated (nothing to do with the Quick GPS function)
2)
... just follow the instructions provided by the Oijkn on the link above.
3)
delete as well the file(s) GPSlogs.txt in the windows directory
4)
soft reset
5)
enjoy a very efficient GPS
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Hi, how can I make sure that the A-GPS is deactivated?
I desactivated it automatically using a soft called 'Diamond Tweak'.
(I only have a French version of this soft, but if you make a research, you should find the English one)
Otherwise, you might be able to find this tweak in some other post, or in the wiki, as a registry key you can manually edit.

Bllackstone GPS not working ?

I have dutch version HTC touch HD. IN new BeeLineGPS everything is 0. What to do ?
ensure
can u ensure u are outside building
Many GPS softwares (iGo, Tomtom 7 ou NoniGPS) don't like a-gps. So disable the function
waskow said:
I have dutch version HTC touch HD. IN new BeeLineGPS everything is 0. What to do ?
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This may be a silly question, but is it configured properly to see the device? I'm not familiar with this particular application. However, with some navigation applications I have seen issues with them letting Windows manage the GPS configuration. Usually setting it manually to COM4 and 38,400 baud rate or higher will make it start working.
Same here. Gps never worked for me in google maps thats why i had to enable a-gps which works pretty well btw.
waskow said:
I have dutch version HTC touch HD. IN new BeeLineGPS everything is 0. What to do ?
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Hello waskow,
Have u managed to resolve this issue?..I'm currently having the same probelm
My Blackstone came with an ancient ROM, like 1.14.xxxxxxxxwhateverxxxxxxxx, it was the cause of not working GPS. I couldn't get anything at all. Tried almost everything. Then, I just flashed the most recent official ROM and 2 minutes later I got a load of sattelites available.
Download HTC GPS Tool, run and under button "Open" select option "Clear memory", then press "Open".
Have the same problem. Used HTC GPS tool. I got error message WaitCommEvent failed.
Any ideas?
Gps Blackstone
I having the same problem, gps cannot find any satellites, when my p3470 searches for satellites an orange light flashes by the earpiece, but the blackstone doesn't flash at all? does anyone know if it should ?

GPS X9601

GPS problems
Ok so I have a North American GSM x9501...
Never used the GPS (Telenav isn't available to Canadian residense). This device is unlocked and NOT purchased from Rogers...
Downloaded Google maps, tried to use GPS and it wouldn't work. Set the settings manually Com4 57600 baud... It says searching for satalites, and has some HUGE number (54357734578) in brackets... GPS doesn't work.
Installed the HTC GPS tool, looks like GPS data is coming in, but can't get a fix. Then tried to use GPSgate, and it says GPS data is coming in but cannot get fix. Both of these two apps can't find any satalites.
Does anyone know what is up?
Zhariak said:
GPS problems
Ok so I have a North American GSM x9501...
Never used the GPS (Telenav isn't available to Canadian residense). This device is unlocked and NOT purchased from Rogers...
Downloaded Google maps, tried to use GPS and it wouldn't work. Set the settings manually Com4 57600 baud... It says searching for satalites, and has some HUGE number (54357734578) in brackets... GPS doesn't work.
Installed the HTC GPS tool, looks like GPS data is coming in, but can't get a fix. Then tried to use GPSgate, and it says GPS data is coming in but cannot get fix. Both of these two apps can't find any satalites.
Does anyone know what is up?
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yep, go out in middle of a field or open Terrace or any place where you can see the sky above you head directly and then start google maps with GPS or HTC GPS tool or GPS gate etc , wait 3-5 min and then it should have fix...
cheers
I've given is some time... Probably over 5 minutes...
It's just odd, I have lots of experiencing using GPS software and devices. It looks like it should be working, the only odd behaviour is:
1) It finds no satalites
and
2) Google Maps says "Seeking Satalites (3874732644)" which is odd, because theres not that many GPS satalites, lol.
Change the Baud Rate to 9600 and see whether it will work.
Tried different baud rates.
Yesterday I let it sit for 15 minutes on google maps until finally it said there was no reception...
And I know I have reception because I was outside. Both my TytN II and HP iPaq have no trouble aquiring fix's...
download free VISUALGPS CE and install. Then connect it to COM4 and press start.
See the NMEA log monitor section. You should see lot's of data, if not, your GPS might be bad.
I'm unsure if your 9501 will work with the ROM's we use in Europe to make calls, and have GPS enabled.. If it's OK, I would flash Thai Hugo's Age of Reason and check again your GPS.
I'm using the factory ROM for the X9501 (Which does support GPS off the bat).
I used the HTC tool, and it looked like NMEA data was going through...
Zhariak said:
I'm using the factory ROM for the X9501 (Which does support GPS off the bat).
I used the HTC tool, and it looked like NMEA data was going through...
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On the HTC tool there is option to see the satellites , check if its has any satellites on red color, if so keep the shift out in terrace or garden until 3 satellite color changes to green , have patience....
if it does not show any satellite on the HTC tool then probably you need to flash the rom with some new rom from the forum ..
Before you do that make a copy of your Stock/original rom ..see forum for instruction
PS: Since you have the stock / orginal rom X9501....would you do me a favour and check if you connect to head set and on Windows mobile side WM6, can you record a message and then play back and you can hear your self back .... I wanted to know if the mic works with head set on WM6 side...for the Stock 9501 ROM.
Cheers.
shawankit said:
On the HTC tool there is option to see the satellites , check if its has any satellites on red color, if so keep the shift out in terrace or garden until 3 satellite color changes to green , have patience....
if it does not show any satellite on the HTC tool then probably you need to flash the rom with some new rom from the forum ..
Before you do that make a copy of your Stock/original rom ..see forum for instruction
PS: Since you have the stock / orginal rom X9501....would you do me a favour and check if you connect to head set and on Windows mobile side WM6, can you record a message and then play back and you can hear your self back .... I wanted to know if the mic works with head set on WM6 side...for the Stock 9501 ROM.
Cheers.
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Yes the Mic works, I helped Comonex with some testing to find out which radio firmwares supported the Mic.
Yes I can record/playback on the Windows Mobile side, and Yes skype works, etc....
Zhariak said:
Yes the Mic works, I helped Comonex with some testing to find out which radio firmwares supported the Mic.
Yes I can record/playback on the Windows Mobile side, and Yes skype works, etc....
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Did you find satellites on your GPS Tool ? either red or green in color ?
Thanks for letting us know that the head set works on wm6 side ....
shawankit said:
Did you find satellites on your GPS Tool ? either red or green in color ?
Thanks for letting us know that the head set works on wm6 side ....
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No problem.
Like I said, zero satelites...
Zhariak said:
No problem.
Like I said, zero satelites...
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Can I ask another favour , do you have any registry editor installed on you shift.
if so , can try to dump/export the registry settings for HKLocalMachine (HKLM) to a xml ot reg file and then copy / upload the xml/reg file here .
we want to use head set with X9500 shift and are trying to find a solution , may be its a reg setting that can fix the problem.
Appreciate your kind help
shawankit said:
Can I ask another favour , do you have any registry editor installed on you shift.
if so , can try to dump/export the registry settings for HKLocalMachine (HKLM) to a xml ot reg file and then copy / upload the xml/reg file here .
we want to use head set with X9500 shift and are trying to find a solution , may be its a reg setting that can fix the problem.
Appreciate your kind help
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I thought all the issues were fixed with the Shift's and headset usage?
Zhariak said:
I thought all the issues were fixed with the Shift's and headset usage?
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Nope , the issue is we cannot use the head set in WM6 as the mic on Head set does not work....so we have to use the speaker phone and its not good for phone calls private or business.
I would appreciate if you can help us to resolve the issue , if you can dump the reg keys for HKLM / Drivers/inbuilt ... it might give us some direction.
Appreciate your support.

Navigator demands data connection at start

Hi all,
firstly the software situation:
I have an HTC Touch Diamond2 wit a german Vodafone branding. Last week i installed the new official upgrade for german Vodafone devices - ROM version 2.16.162.1 HTC Touch Diamond2 (Voda_ DE).
With the old ROM and WM Version i didn't have this problem. Now - with every start of my TomTom Navigator after about 10 seconds a data connection is started. If there's wifi around - wifi, if not - mobile service. When i switch off the connection it stops and for some minutes - until i turn off the navigator it remains switched off. I haven't tested if during some time of the navigation it is turned on again.
In other discussions other users (with other navigation software) have also affirmed, that they also get an unwanted data connection.
Since then i have tried everything that i could think of. I looked over every setting in the TomTom software. Tried over TomTom Home. Tried reinstalling TomTom. Tried resetting to factory settings of TomTom. Nothing helped.
I then made a couple of hardresets of the device and i formatted the memory card also a couple of times. I then installed everything fresh - still demands data connection.
I then tracked the connections with a trafficmonitor software - one time wifi connection, one time mobile service ceonnection.
Looks like this:
WiFi:
system : 3.5 K
WZCSVC.dll : 1.2 K
mobile connection:
system: 1.2 K
WZCSVC.dll is Wireless Zero Configuration Service and i can at least understand why it is making traffic, since wifi is in use.
What is "system"?
Also - why more traffic for "system" with wifi than with mobile connection?
Yesterday i also tracked the connection and there was another .dll service which name i unluckily didn't mark. But it was gps*something*.dll.??
Could AGPS or Quick-GPS have something to do with this behaviour? Or the My Location service? I disabled and declined every setting that i could discover for those services, but i may have overlooked something?
Any ideas?
Please HELP!
Any suggestion would be appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
Problem solved (looks like it at least).
After installing HD Tweak and disabling A-GPS no data connection starts with starting the navigator.
Glad you solved your issue, but let me witness that in my case (i have A-GPS ON) when i use tomtom (7.916.9189) no data connection is going on. Anyway,just to be sure to keep your problem under control, i advice you to check also the weather update settings.
san.medius said:
After installing HD Tweak and disabling A-GPS no data connection starts with starting the navigator.
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A little worrying. I am off to Amsterdam tomorrow and want to use TTN7 without getting stung for a data connection.
sualc said:
Glad you solved your issue, but let me witness that in my case (i have A-GPS ON) when i use tomtom (7.916.9189) no data connection is going on. Anyway,just to be sure to keep your problem under control, i advice you to check also the weather update settings.
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If you mean the two options which appear directly when the HTC Sence Weather Tab is opened - "update weather automatically" and "update with roaming" - i've checked them many times - they are off. If there is another setting where they can be adjusted i would appreciate it if you told me where and how. But i don't think this is it. Unless TomTom Weather is doing this.
But as i mentiones - there was a gps*something*.dll file, that caused the data transfer - that's why i thought it is something GPS related.
But I wouldn't mind to use another solution because now i think my gps signal is not that strong (at least in buildings).
Do you have 6.5 also? I don't think it could be a ROM thing?
A little worrying. I am off to Amsterdam tomorrow and want to use TTN7 without getting stung for a data connection.
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As far as i could test it it makes the connection just once after starting the navigation. It doesn't keep pulling data the whole time. If it does it the whole time during a navigation - i don't know, haven't tested it.
But you can at least test it quickly before travelling - navigation on - status check. If something's moving - you have a problem.
There is one simple solution - you can either disable all automatic connection types - then you would't be able to surf the internet. In my case i didn't want to have to disable everything and/or to enable it by hand every time i use the navigator.
Or you can install HD Tweak and disable A-GPS. It's really very easy.
http://montecristoff.webs.com/hdtweak.htm
san.medius said:
Or you can install HD Tweak and disable A-GPS. It's really very easy.
http://montecristoff.webs.com/hdtweak.htm
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Thanks. I installed that and it seems that A-GPS is disabled by default. And it doesn't seem to get switched on by TTN7. Now I can wander the streets of Amsterdam without a worry
Mike Austin said:
Thanks. I installed that and it seems that A-GPS is disabled by default. And it doesn't seem to get switched on by TTN7. Now I can wander the streets of Amsterdam without a worry
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Without A-GPS enabled make sure you don't enter the wrong coffeeshop!!
By the way..Also TD2 Tools and Tom's Topaz Setting Tool can enable/disable A-GPS and are more specific for our devices...your choice...and have a nice trip
sualc said:
Without A-GPS enabled make sure you don't enter the wrong coffeeshop!!
By the way..Also TD2 Tools and Tom's Topaz Setting Tool can enable/disable A-GPS and are more specific for our devices...your choice...and have a nice trip
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Hi,
have you tested HD Tweak? I'm just asking for comparison reasons. I used it just because someone said it worked.
If the other two are more suitable for the Topaz i would of course prefer them. Is there "a better one" comparing the two?
P.S. Following question just entered my mind. If i uninstall the other tweak software what happens with the changes i made with it. I mean i guess it changes values in the registry so that the settings are changed? I suppose everything will stay as the software "left" it before being uninstalled?
I use HDTweak to increase overall sound volume only. I had it installed for months in a previous config and I was quite happy with it, but the specific tweak apps look more friendly to me. I guess that if you uninstall hdtweak without restoring the default settings you will keep the tweaks applied..at your own risk

A-Gps Question

I was just wondering what it is, as my orange rom had it before i unlocked and de-branded, is it usefull to me as my gps seems to be working fine without it. even when i had it it wroked better when it was disabled i think.
anyone know ?
Thanks
Would like to help.. but sorry, I do not quite understand your problem.
not so much a problem just wondering. il try and put it another way
before i debranded my orange branded jade, i had 2 options relating to gps, one was QuickGPS , thats still in the branded rom.
in the orange rom it had QuickGPS and another setting called A-GPS, just wondered what the second one was for as its not in the offical htc rom
As I have understood HTC pages :
"Quick GPS for Pocket PC from the HTC Corporation is included in the Windows Mobile 6 cusom build. Quick GPS can speed up the amount of time for determining a users GPS position by downloading the latest satellite information via an Internet Connection (such as GPRS, ActiveSync, etc). Quick GPS is intended for use in conjunction with Telenav but will provide the same experience if a customer is using another GPS Solution. "
And Wiki concerning A-GPS:
"An A-GPS system can address these problems in several ways, using an assistance server or other data from a network".
Quick GPS = A-GPS since both use the same principle i.e. downloading info about satellites via internet through GPRS, Wi-Fi if available etc.
Kajmaj said:
Quick GPS = A-GPS since both use the same principle i.e. downloading info about satellites via internet through GPRS, Wi-Fi if available etc.
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i thought as much, those crazy orange people having two programs for the same thing lol thanks for clearing that up
I believe it's not equivalent.
For what I understand, Quick GPS uses general satellite tables, which are downloaded every week.
The a-gps is more precise : you download the satellite tables which are calculated for the BTS (radio antenna) you are connected to, so it is very precise. It's quite impressive: wherever I am, I am able to get a cold fix in 10 to 15 seconds..
Well it's what I have understood of the system....
hello friend i have 3 htc jade 100 blocke in phone off ( telephone desactivé)
when i fin this htc . i flash with rom from web site www.htc.com
i trey to active but stell the sam problemm
how to fix this problemme plz help
xsat2010 said:
hello friend i have 3 htc jade 100 blocke in phone off ( telephone desactivé)
when i fin this htc . i flash with rom from web site www.htc.com
i trey to active but stell the sam problemm
how to fix this problemme plz help
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i think you should start by creating a new thread in the right section
could be a problem with the radio rom or a hardware problem
gomifromparis said:
I believe it's not equivalent.
For what I understand, Quick GPS uses general satellite tables, which are downloaded every week.
The a-gps is more precise : you download the satellite tables which are calculated for the BTS (radio antenna) you are connected to, so it is very precise. It's quite impressive: wherever I am, I am able to get a cold fix in 10 to 15 seconds..
Well it's what I have understood of the system....
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never noticed this reply last time i checked , where is my head lol
that sounds about right, as a-gps never used the data connection and in my case (on o2-uk using a orange rom on a orange branded device) it would make sense that the a-gps data would of been avalible on the orange network and not on o2, and thats why i could not get a fix with it enabled
thanks for the precise answer gomifromparis

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