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Cingular 8125 I.Pl 2.25 unlocking help

Hello guys, can this Pocket PC from cingular be unlocked? I just got it.
I am not sure if i have all the tools and know how to unlock this fone so i will continue to read & wait for help. Thanks
Dishxpert

search this board for lokwiz and take it from there, the search function works, please use it.

I'm in the same boat as him. I've been thinking of CID unlocking my phone for awhile. I have the 2.25 spl/ipl as well with a 2.25.11 rom. And as far as i can tell from reading threads, lokiwiz does not cid unlock this rom.
edit: I have tried looking alot for a way to CID unlock my phone. I get alot of conflicting and confusing information. Some people say to just downgrade my rom to one wiht a 1.xx spl/ipl. Others tell me that that is impossible to do in the first place. I've tried looking and i cant find any rom that has a 1.xx spl/ipl that would even install on my CID locked wizard. If this is indeed the way i and the thread starter are supposed to do it, then can you point me in the direction of a downgraded rom that will work with a CID locked cingular phone? I would be very gratefull.

taking the time to read some threads you would find that downgrading to a 1.xx rom and then doing the cid unlock and sim unlock would fix your problem... some people that say this dont work may be referring to a G4 wizard, one who's IPL/SPL is 2.xx.0001. And they are right, this does not work on a G4, only the G3, which if you are lacking the .0001 at the end of your IPL/SPL then you have a G3... all of this info can be found from searching and reading

I did read from a few sites and am not new to forums. The instructions i saw said there is nothing out for I.P 2.21 and above unless u pay and use JAFWM.
Shogun, prob as a senior member u can shed some light as more ? will be asked in days to come or make a sticky with the truth.
BTW, i do have lokiwiz2o and have used it to unlock MDAIII but not sure what works on mine & dont want to cause it to crash. Speak if u have the 'right' truth.

shogunmark said:
taking the time to read some threads you would find that downgrading to a 1.xx rom and then doing the cid unlock and sim unlock would fix your problem... some people that say this dont work may be referring to a G4 wizard, one who's IPL/SPL is 2.xx.0001. And they are right, this does not work on a G4, only the G3, which if you are lacking the .0001 at the end of your IPL/SPL then you have a G3... all of this info can be found from searching and reading
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please re-read my above post, it gives you instructions.. what i forgot to mention though was after you donwgrade to do the unlock, you will need to upgrade to an official rom that will have the updated bootloaders(IPL/SPL) before you can flash someone's cooked rom (and i only say that cause not all of us chefs include the updated IPL/SPL's so that someone with a G4 doesnt brick their phone)

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please re-read my above post, it gives you instructions.. what i forgot to mention though was after you donwgrade to do the unlock, you will need to upgrade to an official rom that will have the updated bootloaders(IPL/SPL) before you can flash someone's cooked rom (and i only say that cause not all of us chefs include the updated IPL/SPL's so that someone with a G4 doesnt brick their phone)
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I know i have a G3 device. Are you saying that all i have to do is downgrade to a 1.xx ipl/spl rom. Run lokiwiz 2b. And then i can go directly to a cooked rom because i do not have a g4 device? Speciffically i would like to troy out molskie's 30mb free rom. And possibly yours as well.

k2snowboards88 said:
I know i have a G3 device. Are you saying that all i have to do is downgrade to a 1.xx ipl/spl rom. Run lokiwiz 2b. And then i can go directly to a cooked rom because i do not have a g4 device? Speciffically i would like to troy out molskie's 30mb free rom. And possibly yours as well.
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well yes kinda, i added a part below that, it said you may want to flash an official rom since most cooked roms dont include the updated IPL/SPL..

Hi Guys...im no expert, and im kinda a noob at this. But this is what I did with my Cingular 8125. I have a G3 phone, SIM unlocked onle IPL/SPL 2.26. I've updated it with a Cingular standard ROM. I realized my phone was NOT CID unlocked, so I decided to try this step for step http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116&highlight=wizard+backup the important part i believe is downgrading the ROM, also, make sure you unzip the lokizwiz file in the ROOT of the C:\ drive, then open a command prompt and run it from there (assuming your running Windows). After that, I upgraded with a Tmobile Standard ROM to upgrade the IPL and SPL back to 2.26, then I installed this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276700&highlight=cingular+8125 and it worked like a charm. Thats just from my personal experience, as I said im just a noob and not an expert. I hope that helps in some way.
My hats off to these people that create these custom ROM, THESE GUYS ARE GOOD ! ! !
Thanks to all the custom ROM makers out there.

Questions regarding Unlocking and Flashing

Hi,
I tried searching for the answers but got none.
If I flashed my orbit, do I have to re-unlock my phone again?
Is there any link that teaches beginners how to flash from the start?
Thanks,
Jackey

jackey said:
If I flashed my orbit, do I have to re-unlock my phone again? Is there any link that teaches beginners how to flash from the start?
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No, once unlocked is always unlocked. It is not stored inside the ROM itself, but in a separate location on the phone.
Flashing can be quite simple: establish a ActiveSync connection, run the ROM.exe from the pc and follow the instructions on the screen. I read somewhere that some possible difficulties might be avoided by performing a hardreset before starting the procedure.

GRUN: not really, if U flash DOPOD ROM UR device is simlocked again.then U need again unlock

phsnake said:
GRUN: not really, if U flash DOPOD ROM UR device is simlocked again.then U need again unlock
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Are you sure? I've never heard this before, and asking myself why a firmware would do such a thing? What's the advantage? Furthermore, as far as I know, the key to locking/unlocking is to know the IMEI code. How does the firmware know the IMEI code of my phone?

yes i'm 100%sure, but its maybe in this ROM is if i remember new radio and SPL, maybe there is lock check included in ROM somewhere. but i run c3unlock again and everythink works fine after that. btw. i guess there is no prob for any app to get UR imei and compare to imei range( ie: dopod "made" artes have imerange for example from 000-100 - and if your imei is out of range ... is locked and as i remember from imei you can get infos about manufacturer, phone type ......)

help me unlock my Tmobile MDA!

hey there ive downloaded the software thats suppose to unlock the phone but im wondering why its not working for me. can someone give me some quick easy steps to get this baby unlocked? someone at a local flee market can do it for...100$ but i dont wanna pay that much
heres some info on the phone:
Rom version: 2.26.10.2 WWE
ROM date: 6/7/06
Radio Version 02.25.11
Protocal Version: 4.1.13.12
ExtROM version: 2.26.10.105
then when i boot up i get these:
IPL 2.26
SPL 2.26
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.26.10.2
anyhelp would be so awesome guys ive had the phone for like 3 weeks now and i cant make calls
have a good day and keep up the good work these forums rocckkkk
- Eddy

what u do? explain briefly

eddyg519 said:
anyhelp would be so awesome guys ive had the phone for like 3 weeks now and i cant make calls
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Read and follow this post to SIM Unlock your phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=265928&highlight=lokiwiz03a

does it matter what versions i have and what not? i mean to make that sim unlock to work ?

eddyg519 said:
does it matter what versions i have and what not? i mean to make that sim unlock to work ?
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What version of what are you talking about? Just follow that thread. Its pretty simple.

i didnt get the unlock code last time i did it, but im trying again tonight on a friends pc hopefully it will come thru!
thanks for the fast replies so far guys !
- eddy

eddyg519 said:
hey there ive downloaded the software thats suppose to unlock the phone but im wondering why its not working for me. can someone give me some quick easy steps to get this baby unlocked? someone at a local flee market can do it for...100$ but i dont wanna pay that much
heres some info on the phone:
Rom version: 2.26.10.2 WWE
ROM date: 6/7/06
Radio Version 02.25.11
Protocal Version: 4.1.13.12
ExtROM version: 2.26.10.105
then when i boot up i get these:
IPL 2.26
SPL 2.26
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.26.10.2
anyhelp would be so awesome guys ive had the phone for like 3 weeks now and i cant make calls
have a good day and keep up the good work these forums rocckkkk
- Eddy
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look in the upgrading etc. sub forum of the Wizard forums. There is a sticky there that is titled [READ FIRST] The Definitive Guide for Unlocking G3 Wizards. It will tell you everything you need to do to unlock your phone. Just don't skip any of the steps they are all important. There is no reason to pay someone $100 to unlock your phone, you can do it yourself in less than an hour by following these instructions. And by the information you have posted you have a G3 device which makes your life a whole lot easier.

goooood stuff just waiting for a friend to get back to me and ill swing over to his place since my windows 2000 machine here is junk.
i have to find out how to backup all my contacts though because i dont want to lose them. once i have the phone unlocked is it a good idea to overclock it and install WM6 ? i dont wanna kill my device though
-eddy

eddyg519 said:
goooood stuff just waiting for a friend to get back to me and ill swing over to his place since my windows 2000 machine here is junk.
i have to find out how to backup all my contacts though because i dont want to lose them. once i have the phone unlocked is it a good idea to overclock it and install WM6 ? i dont wanna kill my device though
-eddy
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umm, you could just connect to a pc and sync your contacts up in Outlook. There are also software options to back them up but database structure changes between WM5 and WM6 will make a restore impossible. Syncing them up through an activesync connection with a PC is your best bet for backing up contacts.
You could also copy them all to your SIM though I don't know if all fields are preserved if you do that.
As far as overclocking goes, I would suggest you use the battery status plugin and use application specific overclocking, as most things will not need or benefit from over clocking.
If you are flashing to CUSTOM rom make sure you CID unlock as well as the SIM unlock that you need to do so that you can use the phone. They are 2 different unlocks one blocks other carriers sims, the other blocks other carriers, or custom roms.
You should also back up your EXT Rom before flashing a custom or a different carrier rom. It will make recovering your GPRS/MMS settings and other carrier specific settings easier.

alrighty ive downgraded the rom to buttons cooked rom and tried to run the lokiwiz.bat and it doesnt do anything, i dont get a code or anything. I run it from the C:/ and press U to unlock and heres what i get:
Type the letter and press Enter: U
Unlocking mobile... DO NOT DISCONNECT UNTIL THE PHONE REBOOTS!
The system cannot find the path specified.
The system cannot find the path specified.
The system cannot find the path specified.
The system cannot find the path specified.
Your phone is now unlocked....
Store the generated 'lock_backup.bin' file in a safe place. It can help to resto
re your device if anything goes wrong.
ECHO is off.
"Standing on the shoulder of giants"
Ricardo Afonso, 2005
tells me my phone is unlocked but i dont even have the correct codes to unlock it. Any idea whats going on here?

eddyg519 said:
alrighty ive downgraded the rom to buttons cooked rom and tried to run the lokiwiz.bat and it doesnt do anything, i dont get a code or anything. I run it from the C:/ and press U to unlock and heres what i get:
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Thatsbthe procedure to CID (not SIM) unlock a phone if I understand what you did. Since you are this far finish that procedure (use the sticky by Dr P found in Wizard upgrading). You can use the thread I pointed you to, to SIM unlock your device.

yeah i read that guide and downgraded the rom now when i boot i get these:
IPL 1.01
SPL 2.26
OS 1.5.4.2
GSM 01.12.10
when i run the lokiwiz it doenst give me any codes though, like when i hit the unlock.

eddyg519 said:
yeah i read that guide and downgraded the rom now when i boot i get these:
IPL 1.01
SPL 2.26
OS 1.5.4.2
GSM 01.12.10
when i run the lokiwiz it doenst give me any codes though, like when i hit the unlock.
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CID unlocking won't give you codes, but make sure you follow all of the steps (your other post indicated some errors when you did the lokiwiz). Did you put enabler.rapi n your phone and run that first? Also make sure the lokiwiz files were placed right on the root of C:\ (just like Step 5 says).
Also, once you get the Lokiwiz unlock to work, then you'll need to do the button rom again to get the SPL down to 1.xx. Then you can move back to an official ROM (like T-Mobile 2.26). After you finish that, then do the lokiwiz .3a that was in the post I referred you to, and that one will give you codes.

yeah i ran that made sure it was installed on the phone. I also made sure i was guest when i sync'ed to the phone. lokiwiz was also in the C:/ directory and ran with the prompt like normal.
As far as i know im suppose to downgrade the rom from what i posted in #1 to button's rom. Which i have installed but my SPL is 2.26. When i get the unlock codes and they work i run the same Button rom installer to lower the SPL to 1.x then i can upgrade to a newer faster rom correct?
I know these seem like really newb questions and stuff but i THINK i have an idea on whats going on i just keep getting thoughs errors and no unlock code for the phone.
Kind regards,
Eddy

i never did a CID unlock though, and i still think i managed to downgrade to buttons rom? is that even possible lol?
- Eddy

eddyg519 said:
i never did a CID unlock though, and i still think i managed to downgrade to buttons rom? is that even possible lol?
- Eddy
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Your IPL will go down then after you CID unlock you can flash it again and your SPL version will be the same as your IPL version.
Did you execute enablerapi on your device prior to choosing the selection in the lokiwiz menu?

eddyg519 said:
i never did a CID unlock though, and i still think i managed to downgrade to buttons rom? is that even possible lol?
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Yes, thats how you do a CID Unlock. You downgrade to button. So thats fine and totally expected...
As far as i know im suppose to downgrade the rom from what i posted in #1 to button's rom. Which i have installed but my SPL is 2.26. When i get the unlock codes and they work i run the same Button rom installer to lower the SPL to 1.x then i can upgrade to a newer faster rom correct?
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WHy do you keep saying about getting unlock codes. I've told you 2 or 3 times now that you will NOT get codes by doing this process. You run the lokiwiz once doing the U and the phone will reboot. Then you run it again doing the C and the phone will reboot. Nowhere in the instructions does it say that you will get codes. After you complete those steps, since your SPL is 2.xx, you have to do the button rom again and that should take your SPL to 2.xx (if it doesn't do it a few times until it does). Then (and only then) you can flash the T-Mobile 2.26 official rom to get your IPL/SPL back to 2.26. Then go back to the original post I gave you to do the actual SIM unlock (and thats where you will get codes.

Backup of ROM?

Hello.
I want to change/upgrade my ROM to WM6. But I want to make a Backup of my existing from first (maybe I'm to stupid to do the Update) and to have the chance to get my MDA Vario back to life I want to make a backup of the ROM is installed at this time.
Could somebody maybe tell me how i can backup my ROM? And... How can I reinstall the ROM? I think it will be moved to the SD Card?
Thanks a lot.

You might want to try this then first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305294

Thanks for this.
May problem is that I have a "very" new ROM installed (T-Mobile MDA Vario 2.21.2.8 GER). and I'm unable to complete the the CID unlock process (the Netlock is removed allready with the lokiwiz 3a.).
If I'm entering the Bootloader and open mtty I'm .not able to open the USB port.
Does it mean I need to downgrade?
Thanks Maik

There is a newer public T-Mobile ROM on the T-Mobile website: Version 2.26.2
You need to downgrade your ROM to custom 1.05 (check the WIKI page) in order to run lokwiz CID unlocker!
I tried the version 3 of lokwiz but the only one which worked properly on my MDA was the version .2b
How ever,
the CID lock should not effect the MTTY utility. This is an official HTC procedure and should work on any WIZ.
UPDATE:
I just saw that you're talking about a german ROM? The latest public german ROM is 3.3.8 (check the german T-Mobile site for that!). If you want to keep the older 2.21 you can find it at the Austrian T-Mobile site again after downgrading and unlocking your CID
I am running the german rom AKU3.3 myself - it is much nicier than previous versions and has already some WM6 features integrated.

Ok. So I need to downgrade my Device. to do the CID unlock.
Maybe the system firewall and some other settings are affecting the MTTY issue.
I checked the T-Mobile website for the newer German ROM version.
If I check https://after-sales-service.t-mobile.de/eg_online/t-mobile/t_mda_vario.htm (what my Device is) I only see the 2.21 version and NO newer version?

1.
Go to www.t-mobile.de
2.
Click on top on the menu "HILFE & FAQ"
3.
Select on that site "Broschüren & Software"
4.
Now click on the left site menu on "T-Mobile Software"
5.
It takes you to a new page and asks you for your MDA. Don't worry if your PDA is not in the list! Just choose any PDA. It will take you to a new page and show you the selected PDA. Right underneath you will see a link: "Model aendern" - click on that link and then chose as Manufacturer T-Mobile and you will find the MDA VARIO!
Sorry for being so complicate but the T-Mobile site is set up with Flash, so, you can't just copy the link! You always have to go the loooong way! Be aware that you have to temporarely allow popup's ... !
How ever,
I will try to paste the link here to the direct download and I hope it works:
http://www.t-mobile.de/downloads/t-mobile/ruu_vario_aku3.3_3822_382120_026911_tmo_de_ger_ship.zip

Hey the link works....
Thanks. I find out that my Device is a G4 device and I also see that I can't unCID this device... Right?
I'm a little bit in fear that something is going wrong during the Update to WM6 and I have no working Backup on my SD card.
Ok. So this steps I will do. Maybe you can currect me if I'm wrong.
1. I will perform a downgrade to the custom rom 1.05 and then I make a backup after running CID unlock.
2. I make a Backup with the MTTY
3. I will install the WM6
4. If not working I can backup from SD card and maybe install the newest ROM

You only should downgrade for CID unlocking your device! This is required for installing other ROMs than from your cell phone provider!
If you want to upgrade to the new german AKU3.3 from T-Mobile - that should work without CID unlock! You also should be able to downgrade to your existing ROM version in case you just dislike the new AKU3.3
BTW:
If you're planning to upgrade to a selfmade WM6 which you can find all over the web: I tried almost all of them! None was as stabile and good as the german T-Mobile AKU3.3! Sure, they look cute with their VISTA-style look but the functionality is far away from being perfect! Also: Lots of the ROMs are very user-personalized and contain no configuration for your network (such as GPRS and MMS) - my advice: stick to your provider ROMs, either AKU2 (which you're currently running) or the newer AKU3.3 from the link above - at least until you learnt flashing and registry hacking on your device!

WOW I allready can hack the Registry but having sometimes some issues with instructions here . Like I say before... I'm a little bit in fear...

Well, it is understandable! Noone wants to end up with a brick!
There is always a risk in flashing devices! I do it since years now and was unlucky only once by flashing a SIM locked ROM to a Motorola phone. Haven't had any problems since then. The best thing is READING and if you can't find answers just post your question. Next to it is always helpful to check also other Forums or try to find guides in your own mother tongue!
Hacking the registry is not really riskfully - at leat the only one thing what can happen is that your device won't start up and you might lose your files and data. Other than that you should be able in any case to get it running with a hard reset again by holding CON button and Voice Dial button at the same time and press Reset.
Flashing can destroy the device because of it actually erases everything in the device; even the ROM before it writes the new one. But even here you will be able to enter in BOOTLOADER mode in most cases.

Yeah thats right Junner. Reading and asking... Since I flashed my SDA wrong I'm happy to have a Backup on the SD card to get the Image back. If this is the case I'm happy.
I installed AKU 3.3 and it's looking good and working fine.
Maybe I will downgrade to the custom 1.05 and do a backup. I only want to look how the WM6 is looking.
Are you German? Or german speeking?

The ROM backup to SD card via MTTY should work without CID unlocking your device! There is no need to downgrade for that purpose. I had hard times by doing it too. It took me several trials until it worked finally!
The downgrade is only necessary if you're planning to install ROMs from other providers or ROMs in other languages. I asume you're german, so, if you don't believe anything I say - this you can believe: the german AKU3.3 is the best out there you can find for the WIZ
Like I mentioned earlier: all the WM6 ROMs you will find all over the web are user created! They are either taken off from other devices and changed around until they worked on the WIZ or just visual pepped up AKU3.3 ROMs (the one you installed now). Allthough, I did not find any WM6 out ther which did not have issues in one way or another ...
I speak a little bit german , yeah!
We have WURSTFEST here once a year with lots of Sauerkraut and beer ...

Mates, if I read my rom am i going to be able to copy it to pc and Dump it with a ROM Kitchen?

Downgrading WM6 to WM5

I had my HTC wiza200 unlocked (SIM & CID)..it was Tmobile.and did upgrade to WM6 from instructions from this site..but it was not fast enough....even though it was OK reception wise and thrz no heavy battery drain...now i want to downgrade back to WM5...any help will be appreciated,Thanks in advance.
Current ROM:
IPL:3.08
SPL:3.08
Radio:02.47.11
OS:11.0.1.0

Simply install your oem carrier rom. Your tmobile so that should be 2.26. just download it and install it. Thats it.
Jeff

can u direct me to link to get it?
"oem carrier rom. tmobile"
Current ROM:
IPL:3.08
SPL:3.08
Radio:02.47.11
OS:11.0.1.0
Location:INDIA (Calicut)

Near the middle (G3.7) of the 1st post in this thread you will find the Tmobile 2.26 rom.
Jeff
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613

Huh...Thanks a lot for ur prompt reply !! will try...THANKS again !!

am downloading it right now..
do i need to format (is this hard reset?)..i want a clean install with no left overs from previous installations !!
\sorry for new bee questions !!

Whenever you flash a carrier rom you have a fresh install. Carrier roms are the equivalent to formatting your hd and reinstalling a fresh copy of the os.

even the IPL/SPL and radio will go to carrier ? or just the OS ?
Current ROM:
IPL:3.08
SPL:3.08
Radio:02.47.11
OS:11.0.1.0
Location:INDIA (Calicut)