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program memory Q

Hi,
I have about 8MB program memory left in my phone during normal use.
I have the following installed and running in normal use.. no other plugins/apps going other than the occasional bringing up of the Messaging app:
VC 1.6
SPB mobile shell
PTT fix
PocketInformant (usually closed if i can help it though)
AKU3.3 ROM update
This is taking up 40MB of program memory.
Three questions:
- Does this seem high?
- Can i find out how much memory each running app is consuming?
- Is there anything i can do to imrove the amt of free memory? Im worried about having a few more apps open and running out.

If you have done a lot of web browsing the ie cache takes up a load of space. From inside ie select options and memory and clear pages. I regularly free up 10-15mb of memory this way

Memory Problem

Hi,
I´m running trinity with the latest update from the HTC website, germanversion.
the sad thing is: i´m running out of memory, all pics, videos R stored on the card, if i use search 4 big files there is not even one single file above 64k in the main memory.
Storage: 58.8MB / free:1.07MB
Application Mem: 49.10MB / free: 22.99MB
there are just few applications installed but the MEM becomes less and less.
i´ve deleted messages, logfiles, temp files....
i´m out of ideas now an i donot have a useful way to check wich way my MEM is wasted.
any ideas?
many thanxxx

try tools like memaid or sktools - they have a cleanup feature.

Many thanxxx
SKtools did a great job, downloaded the trial on my PC, sent the cab to my P3600 via webmail, saved it on my card, installed it, ran "Auto Clean!" and got an extra 12MB, didn´t check what files it deleted, the trial is limited to 6 entries per list, but the system is fast and useable again. Auto Clean! seems to work without limits in the trial. but i´ll buy it anyway. € 11 is worth it!
only error: the orange LED started flashing when the process was finished, but i had no message,......
the use of the resetbutten stopped the flashing LED aswell ;-)
thanxxx

Also when you are browsing on the Internet I have noticed that the memory is being reduced, every now and then go and clean history and downloaded pages and you will free up more memory.

steladamo said:
Also when you are browsing on the Internet I have noticed that the memory is being reduced, every now and then go and clean history and downloaded pages and you will free up more memory.
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This is due to the disk cache of the browsers. There are registry hacks to move these cache folders to memory card in order to save precious space on rom. Try search the forum or if you are in a hurry, use tools like sktools.

memory leakage

Dear All,
i'm using wm5, i noticed there is a memory leakage , i'm using batery status , every program i open memory decreases then when i close the program using resco task manager , the memory used by the program is not released.
is there any way to avoid this ???

Try using Oxios Memory to recover leaked memory.

I did but still not all the memory recovered , as example as i restart i have 21 MB free after using the device for 6-8 hours , i find the memory 17-18 MB , and i'm sure that all the programs are properly closed.

If you opened a lot of applications in those 6 to 8 hours then that is normal.
You can't just close the app and think that it will be like you have never opened it...that it will remove every bit from memory.
for example, I start with 24MB of free RAM after reset, and trough two or tree days it drops down to 19-22MB dependinh of which and how many apps I have started meanwhile.

Installed apps, even those stored on a SD card will create unneccessary files in the main memory taking some memory away. Check these locations to see if you can delete files from apps that are not needed for the app to run. (main memory) Application Data/Volatile, windows directory/app mgr./active sync (control log) several bytes can be safely deleted here. Look for programs that have been removed, but are still in the app mgr. folder. If files can't be found, use the app that newbie2 offered or this one. Works for me!

Same for me
Man i get the samething. I use the Oxias but it only frees up a couple hundred kb to maybe a few mb. Crazy that I can get it all the way down to 2-3mb of ram. I start with in the 23-26mb free range. I open the following:
Slide2Unlock by A_C
Iphone launcher by Grumps
PocketCM by Tene
I have softkey by water
and Hbutton running
I occassionally check my email and get a few text messages. Outside of that, not a lot of major memory usage.
Even with that going I start at about 21 - 23mb. How is getting down that low. And what will actually work to get it back?
CG

It could be that these programs you have installed are the cause. I think I recall seeing an issue like this related to Slide2Unlock. But the truth is, any badly/improperly written software can do this.

treo...not! said:
It could be that these programs you have installed are the cause. I think I recall seeing an issue like this related to Slide2Unlock. But the truth is, any badly/improperly written software can do this.
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Does anyone know of an actual GOOD program out there that will automatically dump the RAM cache at interval or preset limits?? And do it with a noticable difference??
I have seen others using Resco, task manager and few other programs but most people report the same problem. I know M$ has set the cache up to do this on its own but it is just not as affective as I would like it to be. I know that the short answer is to give up the apps I like. But, I would like to work around that if possible.
CG

hotdog53 said:
Installed apps, even those stored on a SD card will create unneccessary files in the main memory taking some memory away. Check these locations to see if you can delete files from apps that are not needed for the app to run. (main memory) Application Data/Volatile, windows directory/app mgr./active sync (control log) several bytes can be safely deleted here. Look for programs that have been removed, but are still in the app mgr. folder. If files can't be found, use the app that newbie2 offered or this one. Works for me!
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You can clear the Opera history & cache while in Opera, clear cache and delete files while in PIE. With the attached app, which I use ALL the time, can do all this with 1 tap. It also gets rid of your most recent program thst was opened from the start menu. Lots of items can be cleaned and eliminated safely allowing more memory. Check the box by the item/s you want the app to focus on.
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Elf + Opera 9.5 = Low memory issue

Hello,
I'm user of elf (MDA Touch) and I use Onyx 3.0 ROM. When I launch Opera it's ok, but when I use it for about 15 minutes it shows a warning message, that says „the phone is low in storage memory“ or something (i think it means low RAM?). How to solve this issue?
Thanks

I too have opera 9.5. I use both the opera browser, as well as the IE browser (interchangeably). From what I see, whenever you surf web pages that has a lot of content (especially alot of images), the phone stores the data, even after closing the web pages. What I have to constantly keep doing is, delete the history, cookies & cache to free up the space, which eliminates the low memory messages, until the memory gets full again. It seems like after 4 to 5 large web pages, then I get the message of low memory. I sometimes get a critical low message (LOL).
For me, this is a big pain in the butt, and unfortunatly, I don't know any ways around it. Maybe there is a software that can monitor, and maintain a certain amount of space, to prevent this problem from happening; maybe we can start there.
Also maybe someone else could chime in with a solution.

i've seen opera running on both Elf and Elfin... it works without a glitch on the Elfin
but problems appear when i use it on Elf... same memory problems :S
we just need a good application that can free up (a loooott) of RAM...

As far as I have understood it's mainly the cache that eats up your memory. I found a way to store Opera cache on the storage card (well, I found a guide on the internet). It worked great untill I had a couple of tabs open (I guess tabs are stored in phone memory). But it helped a lot storing the cache on the storage card.
Instructions can be found here: http://www.wmexperts.com/articles/howto/how_to_move_the_cache_in_opera.html

AndyGizzle said:
Instructions can be found here: http://www.wmexperts.com/articles/howto/how_to_move_the_cache_in_opera.html
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naah... tried it... same Low memory problem...

Yes! We need something that could monitor, and delete (if selected) the cache files on the fly (automatically) to maintain a certain amount of memory.

EMoeHTC said:
Yes! We need something that could monitor, and delete (if selected) the cache files on the fly (automatically) to maintain a certain amount of memory.
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Moving cache to SD won't help much. Main problem is that Opera keeps thumbnail of page and it's full view in RAM. Wait for release of Fennec (Firefox Mobile), maybe it will work better.

Your total solution
I just found this on a thread.
www.skyfire.com
This thing even plays youtube videos directly.
I can play flash games on this browser too

DubThroatflex said:
Hello,
I'm user of elf (MDA Touch) and I use Onyx 3.0 ROM. When I launch Opera it's ok, but when I use it for about 15 minutes it shows a warning message, that says „the phone is low in storage memory“ or something (i think it means low RAM?). How to solve this issue?
Thanks
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try the Onyx Jr. you will get more memory...
dun use opera 9, use Esmertec Java with Opera Mini....
you will never turn back....lol..

got the same problem

HTC HD2 "Out of Memory" error

I have stock ROM on my T-Mobile HD2.
Many softwares crash/hang-up with "out-of-memory" error, eg. Xn-View, Need for Speed, Kinoma Play.
This is strange..my HD used to run these without any problems. And HD2 is supposed to have more RAM and faster processor.
Really frustrated. Please help

Do you have many apps installed to your device?
When installing you get the option of device or storage card, maybe uninstall and reinstall to storage card?
Also, be sure to check out CleanRAM, that may help?

Funny to hear similar probs: I moved opera-cache, album-cache, photos to SD-Card, have 170 MB free of prog-mem and 50 MB free of data-mem and still get once in a while "not enough memory, cannot allocate mapBuf" with my aviation-navi-software (which works without this problem on my Touch HD for 2 years). With SK Tools background free RAM and the other services it happens less frequently but it still happens.
Looks as if WM 6.5 does not know where to put app-data into RAM

??????????????????

Are you using Opera Mobile 10?

With heave loaded opera mobile 10, i can't start camera at once.. but the RAM still showing over 100mb of spaces :O shame...

opera mobile is the problem for me, though i installed it to sd card today and it hasnt happened so far

I got the same Out of Memory for My Camera in my smaberg's Touch X cooked rom..
I have SEVEN push email running in the background.. it runs fine in stock..
I think it's because of the 2.10 driver things?
wondering if anyone have a solution for this?

Any solution yet?
Still have no good solution..

It seems that Opera 9 saves downloads to a folder on the phone memory, but it doesn't always delete them when you tell opera to do so in the downloads menu tab.
It saves them too: \My Device\Windows\opera9\profile\download
When I deleated most of the files there it released over 110 MB of space in the device storage.
I wonder where other programs save similar files?
Sam.

i have the same problem but guys, ram isnt rom. memory here means RAM and has nothing to do with phone storage nor sd storage

Memory usage
I do also have problems with "out of memory" errors.
I have tried to do an analyze of my HD2 with MemMaid to figure out where all the memory is used up in my device.
First of all, I have moved all cashes to the memory card and cleaned up the cashes in the phone memory, as been described well in other threads.
I have about 35 applications installed and most of them on the memory card.
This is what I have found out:
Device memory:
337Mb available , 151Mb used , 185MB free (45% used)
Device storage:
180Mb available , 164Mb used , 16Mb free (91% used)
Storage card:
16Gb available , 8Gb used , 8Gb free (50% used)
Looking at directories to see where most files are stored, windows is by far the biggest folder in my device.
The windows directory is 442Mb (!)
where 10470 files makes a total of 420Mb and other folders like programs are 22Mb.
- This is where I suspect I do have a problem, is it really normal that windows folder do have so many files? For example, there are 3017 _manila files, there are also over 3000 bmp,gif,png files.
- I have a thought that I might have inherrited a lot of files from my old TyTnII when I started up the new HD2 and synchronized it via "Microsoft My Phone".
How does it look for other HD2 users with the memory usage?
Regards

Did you save your picture on device memory? How many song did u put on device memory (ringtone for example)?

All those are stored on the memory card.
Opra cash, Youtube, ring tones, music, photos, are all on the memory card.
Regards

I have started to get this 'out of memory message' after in installed opera 10 mobile.
I dont know how to move the cache to the memory card like you could in opera 9.

I already often have a "out of memory" while trying to turn on my camera.
And... I have found a way to turn it back on without restarting : use HTAddicts CleanRAM !
Launch it, it will clean your ram (different profiles are available) and then the camera will start up.
Direct download HERE

I'm pretty sure this message is caused by one of three things:
1. Windows Mobile (even 6.5) still has a 32 process limit
2. Some older programs possibly including the camera software may not be aware of more than 32 or 64gb of memory, so even though there is tons left it can't use it.
3. There is also a cache of memory used by drivers.

Sam2k said:
It seems that Opera 9 saves downloads to a folder on the phone memory, but it doesn't always delete them when you tell opera to do so in the downloads menu tab.
It saves them too: \My Device\Windows\opera9\profile\download
When I deleated most of the files there it released over 110 MB of space in the device storage.
I wonder where other programs save similar files?
Sam.
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My thanks Sam, I had this memory problem for a while again thanks for the fix

mem error
Sam2k said:
It seems that Opera 9 saves downloads to a folder on the phone memory, but it doesn't always delete them when you tell opera to do so in the downloads menu tab.
It saves them too: \My Device\Windows\opera9\profile\download
When I deleated most of the files there it released over 110 MB of space in the device storage.
I wonder where other programs save similar files?
Sam.
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my hd2 has what may be a similar issue with memory, after official 3.14 install and doing registry tweaks involving memory and graphics settings, mine is "out of memory" on Opera 9.7 all the time here within the past 2 weeks. I've gone into opera settings and deleted cache and history, no results. I can get memory warning with only 1 tab open. Any cabs I've added are on the memory card not the phone memory. I tried to follow this path to delete files, mine doesn't show the "download" file. Am trying to move Opera over to the card. I don't have any of the original games or movies on card or phone. Didn't want or need them. Other tips, suggestions?

Maybe to much programms are (in background) open?
Please close with taskmanager and try again.
btw. witch Stock rom, radio version and spl version do you have?