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Memory usage & Opera

After I softreset my HD, there are one hundred something free memory available.
As I run my favourite applications QMAIL, stock manager, freecell, etc, memory usage is normal.
Then I will run Opera to browse my favourite web sites (not designed for PPC), free memory starts to drop until 6xMB, then I can't run new applications and/or system become unstable.
Search for old threads here, most posts suggest to move the opera cache to storage card.
I use MemMaid to reclaim ram, only 2M are on opera cache, and 3M on IE temporary files, and I do think these should be kept in HD internal storage for better performance.
I search from the Internet, most post suggests to move Opera cache, download tools to ClearTemp, etc. But a few Megabytes is not my concern!!
I start to think, where is my memory goes? Do anyone have better idea on how to cure this?
(I just do a quick test when I writing this post, I visit a web forum, view 3 posts with some photo, the memory drop from 94MB to 89MB now.)

Hi,
moving the opera file cache on the storage has should not have any effect on the RAM usage. The tool "cleanRAM" seems to be very good at freeing your memory. It can be found somewhere on this forum or directly here: http://www.htcaddicts.com/?id=65&hl=cleanRAM
Scroll down for the download link of the newest version.
Also you should check, if Opera Mobile is really closing. On your device check this registry entry: HKLM\Software\Opera\Preload\RealExit = 1
With this Opera's process will be closed if you exit the application. Otherwise is remains active to shorten the startup time. I don't see a great difference, so just set it to "1".

Maximum File Size Download Limit

Hello Folks,
I've been using my Vogue to do some downloads and have noticed that I cannot download anything much larger than 80MB, even if I have a 2GB SD card and plenty of storage space left. Yesterday I tried to download a file of about 100MB, it appeared to have downloaded to the end, but I got a disk full error message and the file was essentially lost. When I checked my internal memory before clicking the "disk full" dialog box, it was indeed full. However I wasn't able to identify where the file was. I always setup my downloads to go to the storage card.
Is this device limited to download chunks that can fit into its system memory or part of it? In other words, is it possible to force saving files directly onto the storage card instead of system memory like it seems to be doing now? Is this a limitation of the browser (Opera 8.65), of the operating system (WM 6.1) or is this a limitation of the hardware itself (the CDMA version of the HTC Touch, aka the Vogue)?
TIA for your responses!

Don't know. I have not tried downloading a file larger than 10M before. I don't have a data plan plan so anything that I need to download I was my laptop. I seems like downloading a 100M file would be painfully slow using your phone.

I do not think there is a limit. I have DLed 350mb phone sized movies a few times.
I do think your problem is related to the browser? When I try to DL a file off the net through IE it does not ask me where I would like to save the file, (it used to in 6.1, but no longer does in 6.5) and it automatically DLs to My Documents on the phones internal memory. This woul mean I could not DL a file larger then my remaining space that's available. I use Opera Mobile 10 now and it allows me to select my storage card as DL location.

it seems to me that it cache's the file on the phone then copies to the sdcard, i think there is a registry setting somewhere to make it cache it to the sdcard...i would check here at xda or at ppcgeeks.com

jadesse: being on dial-up, that is painfully slow! Getting the unlimited mobile browser was exactly the idea, because until recently there were no other options but dial-up where I live. Even at the edge of the cell, at 300Kb/s to 600Kb/s, my speeds are 5-10 times faster than dial-up... An our new ADSL, that we just got in the area after a 10 year wait, maxes out at 3.5 Mb/s...
skydirt: OK - so if IIUC, you've been able to download 350MB files in one shot, using Opera 10, without getting 'disk full' issues? On the Vogue?
Opera 8.65 does]/i] let me select the storage card as a location. That's what I've been doing all along. I just can't download files of the 100MB or around size or larger. It's as if it was downloading on internal memory then at the end of the download transfering (writing) it to the storage card.
How is Opera 10? Is it as good as Opera 10 for the desktop? Is it stylus friendly? Is it a free upgrade? (never mind, I see it's a beta - it will expire...)
jamezelle: could you be more specific? I've looked into it and there are some edits for temporary IE files location, which I will try. However, this is only applicable to IE... I will test both this tweak on IE and see whether Opera Mobile has some similar setting... Thanks for the tip!
Thanks for all your responses, folks, it's much appreciated!

Success
I just tried a large (98MB) download and worked fine... It took forever to finalize at the end of the download, but it worked!
I used the settings explained here
jamezelle, thanks again for steering me the right way!
Now does anyone know how to make Rapidshare work from Opera Mobile? I know, it's an incredibly frustrating site even under the best conditions, who knows why so may people put up with it and actually use it to upload files, but the fact is, as horrible as it is, it's still the most popular, it would be nice if it could be made to work with Opera Mobile...

Old faithful said:
I just tried a large (98MB) download and worked fine... It took forever to finalize at the end of the download, but it worked!
I used the settings explained here
jamezelle, thanks again for steering me the right way!
Now does anyone know how to make Rapidshare work from Opera Mobile? I know, it's an incredibly frustrating site even under the best conditions, who knows why so may people put up with it and actually use it to upload files, but the fact is, as horrible as it is, it's still the most popular, it would be nice if it could be made to work with Opera Mobile...
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Rapidshare works on Opera Mobile 9.5 and above in my own experience. As for 8.65, never used it so I wouldn't know how to get it to work. If anything, just get your hands on NFSFAN's custom Opera build (It's in his thread). Alternatively, you can try out the Opera Mobile 10 Beta (link).

Phone Storage Memory

Hi,
I currently only have 4.98mb left of the 180.85mb total storage available on my device and am now getting 'critically low memory' warnings. I have not installed many apps or anything else to the phone and can't really understand why this is so high.
I had a look at the folders which are: -
Application Data 39.8mb
Documents and Settings 1.07mb
My Documents 2.77mb
Program Files 10.4mb
Windows - doesn't say but must be approx 115mb for the total to be correct? Is this normal?
Also, I have 115.06mb free of the 336.93mb total program memory available.
Is anyone else having similar issues? If the windows section is suppossed to use this high amount why has the phone not been allocated enough memory to deal with it?
Thanks
James

You should search a bit, but, empty the cache folder of HTCAlbum, Opera, etc.. in Application Data.

Thanks for the help. I have deleted the contects of the HTCalbum cache and Google maps and this has increased the available memory to 39.57mb.
Why should we have to delete cache data to be able to use our device? This seems a bit crap to me

Your memory usage is not normal- the HD2 has about 135MB free Storage Memory after a hard reset, so something has grabbed your memory somewhere.
I'd suggest downloading a small program called SpaceFinder which can give you a tree view of where the memory has gone sorted by folder size. It was designed for much older versions of WinMo but still works well. Some of the fiels it sees are in the ROM, but at least it will give you some clues.
Culprits for memory usage apart from the caches are music and video files- look in those folders to see if there's anything obvious.

Hello JJJJacksonjjjjj
Your problem is not new and has been reported many times on here.
If you look in the hints and tips thread in this forum there are a number of suggestions for clawing back memory space, which I suggest you implement.
Other thing is I bet you have been installing all of your apps onto the phome memory when you could have done so onto the storage card. If I am right then I would suggest you backup all your data using, say Sprite Backup or my preferred app which is SPB Backup, hard reset your phone and rebuild it from scratch, installing your apps carefully and onto the memory card instead.
Might sound a bit heavy handed but you will reap the benefits in the long run (If too drastic for you then deinstall and reinstall apps onto external memory instead without hard resetting).
I built my phone exactly this way from day one. Every app that gets installed gets assessed by me as to whether it needs to be in phone memory or not. If not then its straight onto the memory card (running an 8GB at the moment, waiting for the 32GB to come onstream and at at a reasonable price).
This, plus all the tips in the thread I mentioned earlier, have left me a happy bunny memory wise.
Good luck with it.
WB

Thanks guys, I am sorted now.
I downloaded spacefinder (really good program) and found out straight away that I had 30mb+ in Windows>Opera9>Profile>Download. I didn't know it kept all the downloaded cabs and pdfs etc you download (without saving), I thought these would be cleared when you exit Opera.
Also there were loads of facebook pictures in the temporary internet files of Internet Explorer! Why does it save all these?!
Anyway, I am now at 93.5mb free out of 180.85mb so all is good
Don't get me wrong I love my HD2 (and TP before) but HTC will never win over the mass market unless they sort out these kind of issues. Most people I know wouldn't have the first idea about all the messing about we have to do with these devices, and as a result they would have a sluggish, buggy device within weeks of normal use.
Without the help form you guys on XDA I would have probobly ditched the TP after a month or so, and I think I knew deep down I was being too hopeful, but I thought the HD2 would be free from the minor niggles I had with my TP.
That turned into a bit of a rant lol.
Thanks again guys.

...many problems are for cache of programs like htc album, opera, google maps...
...in this post there are many advice, and explain how to move the htc album cache to storage card
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600578
...i have a good result with SKTOOLS program, because i had the same problem with the internal memory
good luck!

jjjacksonjjj said:
Don't get me wrong I love my HD2 (and TP before) but HTC will never win over the mass market unless they sort out these kind of issues.
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Glad you're sorted- despite its age, I still always load Spacefinder as one of my 1st apps. Only 72KB and does exactly what it says!
Don't blame HTC for these issues- it is down to both MS and the application developers like Opera to define whether & where they store stuff.
At least the HD2 has a fair amount of free space- unlike earlier devices which ground to a halt because of these stupid problems.

Spacefinder download link please gents (google is not turning up what I am looking for)?
Cheers
WB

NeilM said:
Don't blame HTC for these issues- it is down to both MS and the application developers like Opera to define whether & where they store stuff.
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I am probably being a bit unfair to HTC, but a lot of the common issues most people seem to have are (as far as I can see) ones that HTC should sort - sms, pink camera etc (I didn't just mean the memory). How can they release a top line device with these issues and expect that users will check for and install fixes?
My point is that they are selling us a product; which they know things like Opera, the facebook app, HTC photo etc are integral to how it will be used by the consumer, so they should ensure these functions work reliably out of the box without user research and fixing.
I don't want to knock HTC (I wouldn't have any other device now), but there are always niggles that they should sort out before release

Insufficient Flash Memory when browsing on IE and Opera

I keep getting an insufficient flash memory error when browsing the internet, I primarily use IE so most of the same it happens on this, do you know what could cause this error and how would I go about changing it?
I have no ROM updates on my phone, I am waiting for my phone provider to release one.

Howardstipple said:
I keep getting an insufficient flash memory error when browsing the internet, I primarily use IE so most of the same it happens on this, do you know what could cause this error and how would I go about changing it?
I have no ROM updates on my phone, I am waiting for my phone provider to release one.
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First thing to do is clear your IE cache, soft reset and if you still have the problem get back to the forum.
PS. ROM updates won't increase your RAM!

Lookup "settings" - "memory": What does it say how much data-memory is available ?
Album Cache absorbs a lot of data mem (when having a lotta pics on the HD, also Footprints stores pics to data mem) and should be moved to SD-Card.

Is this what you mean?
Total Storage 200.27mb
Used 106.32 mb
Free 93.95mb
Total Program 336.93 mb
Used Program 173.29
Free Program 163.64
I have removed all cookies, internet files, browsing history, is a soft reset a restart the phone (sorry am new to this phone)

Well, thats sufficient free RAM (more than me ).
Sorry, I´m myself a noob, dunno what else it could be, hope some masters will answer this ...................

Its really irritating! is there any way of turning flash off in Internet explorer because all I am mainly visiting is browsing forums and general news websites.
I tried to see if I could give flash more ram but I couldn't find out how to do that or even if it is possible to do? I don't have anything else open when I am viewing IE as well..

Opera Performance

As soon as i purchased my HD2 i did various things to improve performance and reduce phone memory usage.
One of those was to move the opera cache onto the sd card, i've been using it like that for a few months.
But i have noticed that if i quit opera the phone will be very sluggish for a few mins after i've quit the app. Looking at the processes i can see opera running 100% cpu. I'd guess it's opera cleaning up the cache on the sd card.
After i disabled the HTC Album Cache the other day i realised i have a plenty of free phone memory so decided to swap the cache back to the default location. Not only did this solve the 100% cpu after quit problem it also speeded up browsing and rendering of pages.
If anyone else has moved the cache to the external card and the card is a slow one you might want to consider moving it back to the phone memory.
One other thing i fixed was sluggish text input on some forums/websites, i found this was due to lots of animated slimies/emoticons. There is an option in the opera:config to disable animation which stops animated gif's from playing and solved my sluggish text input problem. It also had the added benefit of stopping adverts that use animated gifs.
I'm using stock rom 1.66WWE, your milage may vary.

you may want to consider running your opera cache from a RAM disk.
This has the advantage of not eating into your storage memory and also being even faster than using the rom memory for cache

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you may want to consider running your opera cache from a RAM disk.
This has the advantage of not eating into your storage memory and also being even faster than using the rom memory for cache
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how do you do that?

JJbdoggg said:
how do you do that?
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see this post for details of installing ramdisk and some ideas of what can be done with it

nice idea, thanks for the tip... i'll probably leave minw as it is now, can see a ramdisk would work even better though