As soon as i purchased my HD2 i did various things to improve performance and reduce phone memory usage.
One of those was to move the opera cache onto the sd card, i've been using it like that for a few months.
But i have noticed that if i quit opera the phone will be very sluggish for a few mins after i've quit the app. Looking at the processes i can see opera running 100% cpu. I'd guess it's opera cleaning up the cache on the sd card.
After i disabled the HTC Album Cache the other day i realised i have a plenty of free phone memory so decided to swap the cache back to the default location. Not only did this solve the 100% cpu after quit problem it also speeded up browsing and rendering of pages.
If anyone else has moved the cache to the external card and the card is a slow one you might want to consider moving it back to the phone memory.
One other thing i fixed was sluggish text input on some forums/websites, i found this was due to lots of animated slimies/emoticons. There is an option in the opera:config to disable animation which stops animated gif's from playing and solved my sluggish text input problem. It also had the added benefit of stopping adverts that use animated gifs.
I'm using stock rom 1.66WWE, your milage may vary.
you may want to consider running your opera cache from a RAM disk.
This has the advantage of not eating into your storage memory and also being even faster than using the rom memory for cache
rumpleforeskin said:
you may want to consider running your opera cache from a RAM disk.
This has the advantage of not eating into your storage memory and also being even faster than using the rom memory for cache
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how do you do that?
JJbdoggg said:
how do you do that?
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see this post for details of installing ramdisk and some ideas of what can be done with it
nice idea, thanks for the tip... i'll probably leave minw as it is now, can see a ramdisk would work even better though
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Hello,
I'm user of elf (MDA Touch) and I use Onyx 3.0 ROM. When I launch Opera it's ok, but when I use it for about 15 minutes it shows a warning message, that says „the phone is low in storage memory“ or something (i think it means low RAM?). How to solve this issue?
Thanks
I too have opera 9.5. I use both the opera browser, as well as the IE browser (interchangeably). From what I see, whenever you surf web pages that has a lot of content (especially alot of images), the phone stores the data, even after closing the web pages. What I have to constantly keep doing is, delete the history, cookies & cache to free up the space, which eliminates the low memory messages, until the memory gets full again. It seems like after 4 to 5 large web pages, then I get the message of low memory. I sometimes get a critical low message (LOL).
For me, this is a big pain in the butt, and unfortunatly, I don't know any ways around it. Maybe there is a software that can monitor, and maintain a certain amount of space, to prevent this problem from happening; maybe we can start there.
Also maybe someone else could chime in with a solution.
i've seen opera running on both Elf and Elfin... it works without a glitch on the Elfin
but problems appear when i use it on Elf... same memory problems :S
we just need a good application that can free up (a loooott) of RAM...
As far as I have understood it's mainly the cache that eats up your memory. I found a way to store Opera cache on the storage card (well, I found a guide on the internet). It worked great untill I had a couple of tabs open (I guess tabs are stored in phone memory). But it helped a lot storing the cache on the storage card.
Instructions can be found here: http://www.wmexperts.com/articles/howto/how_to_move_the_cache_in_opera.html
AndyGizzle said:
Instructions can be found here: http://www.wmexperts.com/articles/howto/how_to_move_the_cache_in_opera.html
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naah... tried it... same Low memory problem...
Yes! We need something that could monitor, and delete (if selected) the cache files on the fly (automatically) to maintain a certain amount of memory.
EMoeHTC said:
Yes! We need something that could monitor, and delete (if selected) the cache files on the fly (automatically) to maintain a certain amount of memory.
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Moving cache to SD won't help much. Main problem is that Opera keeps thumbnail of page and it's full view in RAM. Wait for release of Fennec (Firefox Mobile), maybe it will work better.
Your total solution
I just found this on a thread.
www.skyfire.com
This thing even plays youtube videos directly.
I can play flash games on this browser too
DubThroatflex said:
Hello,
I'm user of elf (MDA Touch) and I use Onyx 3.0 ROM. When I launch Opera it's ok, but when I use it for about 15 minutes it shows a warning message, that says „the phone is low in storage memory“ or something (i think it means low RAM?). How to solve this issue?
Thanks
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try the Onyx Jr. you will get more memory...
dun use opera 9, use Esmertec Java with Opera Mini....
you will never turn back....lol..
got the same problem
For some reason, I don't see too many complaints about low memory issues - yet I have always had problems with my RAM.
I have almost all of my programs installed on my SD card to try reduce any of my memory usage - but if I run PIE, MSN Messenger, or try to play music, I almost always have low memory messages come up.
I usually have one program running in the background - Slide to Unlock - but as far as I know its not that memory intensive?
Any insight on how I can fix this?
Thanks!
Are you running an elf or an elfin? If your not sure.....go to start-->settings-->system-->device information-->hardware. What does your RAM size read? If its 64MB its an elf.....if it says 128MB its an elfin. Your saying you've installed all your applications on the storage card. How much free space do you have for program memory on your phone? Your phones needs free memory in order to run applications too. Perhaps its running low on that end? Two things you should do:
1. Move any extra files, photos, videos or anything else that you might have saved on the phone memory to the storage card. Use activesync. Its faster that way.
2. Clear out your browser history and temp files. This could most probably be your culprit as they take up space too...and you don't necessarily see this upfront. Goto Start-->Internet Explorer-->Menu-->Tools-->Options-->Memory Tab.
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2. Clear out your browser history and temp files. This could most probably be your culprit as they take up space too...and you don't necessarily see this upfront. Goto Start-->Internet Explorer-->Menu-->Tools-->Options-->Memory Tab.
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I've been having "Insufficient memory" errors while trying to run SpB Backup, and have deleted all sorts of applications, but nothing seemed to free up enough memory. Then I tried your advice, and everything is working as it should!
Thanks!!
I have an elf - usually when I close all of my processes, except my stumble to unlock, I'll have approx. 15mb/47 free in my program memory. 10/28 of my storage space is free.
I've tried to clear all of my temp files... even made it so that all my temp files/PIE files are put on my storage card through SK tools, but still have the same issues.
As soon as I run my HTC music player with the one or two background apps, it almost always pops up with memory issues. Browsing with PIE is almost impossible for any period longer than 5 minutes.
I've tried it with several configurations and I always have the same results, even if I have no background processes - I still have the same issues.
Are you using a cooked ROM? Come to think of it, I never had many problems with the original shipped ROM. I was normally running S2U2, PocketMusic, Opera Mini and SpbMobileShell back then.
You mean to say you can't even run one application at a time without running out of RAM? Soft reset. And if you use SKTools like you say you do, try running Free Up RAM, select all options.
In your shoes I'd probably move everything I want to storage card, (you should want more than 10mb storage) try a hard reset and install my most used apps again. Oh, and what is your PagePool size? Try here to find out about that. It should be 4mb.
Your primary problem is indeed the fact that you are running out of space on your phone. 15mb for program memory especially on heavy usage is quite insufficient. Especially if your going to be multi tasking and running several applications at once. I would move ALL my installed programs and anything else I may be able to get my hands on, to the storage card. Try to squeeze out atleast 25-30mb out of your program memory. This should give your phone some more breathing space.
This might be to use of you to try it out.
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
hi
I had the same problem before but now my touch runs fine now & haven't got any issues till now. Use advanced task manager and pocket mechanic. These application will keep ur pocketpc in good shape.
Very good, Thanks.
i bought my leo some month ago and everything was working fine.
but since some days, my leo is S.L.O.W!
even typing a sms is difficult: i have to wait 5 seconds between typing 2 keys... when i switch it on, i have to wait for 30 seconds between the time i've unlocked it and the time i'm on sense.... what's happening?
i'm with the rom 1.43. does it run better with another rom?
3 things; soft reset your device then take a read in these forums on the SMS problem and fix.
After that look for the threads that discuss the benefits of upgrading your rom.
Use this to find what you are looking for...http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all
WB
i already looked at this sms problem.
but it worked fine for 1 month 1/2
seems that HTC need to hire the good chief we have here.
i reset the phone everyweek
i'll look a bit more in the forum
Have you installed any 3rd party 'Start Menu' or 'Shell' programs? Your problem is almost certainly a software conflict. I saw the same thing a few times with Panoramic Launchpad.
Hmm, to me that sounds like the memory is full - I would recommend to check the RAM.
I learnt recently that the camera cache in RAM can fill up.
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Hmm, to me that sounds like the memory is full - I would recommend to check the RAM.
I learnt recently that the camera cache in RAM can fill up.
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ROM, not RAM!
seed_al said:
ROM, not RAM!
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Hmm,
No sorry, not right. Ram is volatile/semi volatile memory where things like the album cache live. ROM is read only memory where the operating system lives.
If he has memory problems then it will be in the RAM not the ROM.
To the OP, you could try Memmaid to see if that clears up your problem.
WB
No, please read again.
Cheesy Dave was talking about the camera cache, which fills up the ROM, not the RAM!
The OP also stated that he does regular soft resets, and those 448MB RAM can hardly be filled anyway, so IF he has a memory problem, then it's with the ROM, as Cheesy Dave already correctly stated.
OK,
You say ROM, I say RAM. You say Pohtahto, I say Potato, you say Tomayto I say tomato..... Either way it would appear he has a memory problem or needs to investigate potential memory issues further.
If the OP explores the myriad of threads on here about moving various caches to the SD card plus using a memory cleaning tool like Memmaid then he won't be far off sorting his problems out, which, I think, is what he wants to do. Would you not agree?
WB
PS: To the OP - you might also want to consider using a task manager to ensure that applications you have finished with are properly closed off rather than minimised, taking up valuable memory space.
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If the OP explores the myriad of threads on here about moving various caches to the SD card plus using a memory cleaning tool like Memmaid then he won't be far off sorting his problems out, which, I think, is what he wants to do. Would you not agree?
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Yes, that's what he should do.
Particularly, he should look at the following folders:
\Windows\Youtube
\Application Data\HTC\HTC Album
The may have filled up his ROM
RAM is volatile memory, but that's not where those cahces live, they live in the ROM. RAM is only for running applications.
Slow? Not really.
This is the best WinMo phone up-to-date.
Coming from Iphone 2g one can get true sense of multitasking, full exchange support, multimedia is on par. I don't even see problems with keyboard because I am used to capacitive screen. Everything just seems right.
All in all, I am more than satisfied.
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Slow? Not really.
This is the best WinMo phone up-to-date.
Coming from Iphone 2g one can get true sense of multitasking, full exchange support, multimedia is on par. I don't even see problems with keyboard because I am used to capacitive screen. Everything just seems right.
All in all, I am more than satisfied.
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True, same here.
In general, the Leo is FAAAAST...
But there may be a problem with the OP's Leo that makes it slow. Maybe not enough memory left or something.
If deleting the caches I mentioned before does not help, save all your data try a hard reset.
hi
I'm recently having a new issue and dont know what to do! when I close the Opera my HD2 slows down in about 4 minutes and then everything goes normal. I have updated to 1.66 rom...
I did some of the tweaks listed in front page of Tips and Tweaks... thread.
And there is another issue when browsing pages with opera when I double tap too zoom in or double tap too zoom out or when go to landscape mode it goes to upper side of the page and I have to search again and find the specific part of page which I was reading.
any tweaks or tricks for this issue?
thanks
You're not the only one, me too. The only way i could rectify it was to do a hard reset, which is a pain.
yes, mine's too with 1.66 ROM ehh waiting for HTC updates
I have also only recently experienced this.
Ending all tasks via Task Manager ends the lag thus avoiding soft reset.
just set cleanram to level 1 and run it every time you exit opera. snappy in 5 seconds..m
I had opera.exe staying running and using resources on exit . I had moved the cache to my (stock) 2mb sd card. I reset back to internal memory fixed it.
im not saying its specifically the cache being on the sd card, it could simply be the cache folder being rebuilt.
(I now have the cache on a ram disk and opera 9.7 flies.)
I had this problem, i had moved the opera cache to the SD card as had been suggested in the Tips & Tricks.
Once i moved it back to the phone it was fine again
Greetings everyone,
I'm new here and relatively newbish to HD2 (have it one month).
Id like to know what can I do to free some space on my device memory?
All tho I installed quite a lot of programs, I always installed them to storage card, so my guess is since device free memory is getting lower and lower
every time I check or install something, it's got to be some cache from Opera, google maps or programs maybe, temp. files from rar perhaps and similar.
So does anyone know for sure what can I delete in my device memory, in windows, etc and not damaging system...
Tried search but with no result...
i'd also like some advice on this too.....
memory depletion happens due:
- opera cache (\windows\opera9\profile\cache)
- IE mobile cache (\Windows\Profiles\Guest\cache)
- htc album cache (\application data\htc\htc album\cache) which is the greatest. i.e. if u have a alot of pics, then everytime you view them, ur album cache grows bigger and bigger and depletes memory.
My advice:
- install clear temp....it's free
- assign the custom folders in clear temp to the above folders.
clear ur cache with a press of a button. done
also everytime u install a program even if only to sd card, some files are installed on ur main memory. Only way to remove those minor files is by a hard reset. You can then assign shortcuts to ur sd card installed applications.
bradaman said:
Greetings everyone,
I'm new here and relatively newbish to HD2 (have it one month).
Id like to know what can I do to free some space on my device memory?
All tho I installed quite a lot of programs, I always installed them to storage card, so my guess is since device free memory is getting lower and lower
every time I check or install something, it's got to be some cache from Opera, google maps or programs maybe, temp. files from rar perhaps and similar.
So does anyone know for sure what can I delete in my device memory, in windows, etc and not damaging system...
Tried search but with no result...
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Put your apps on main mem and the phone will be more efficient in its overall use of phone RAM. Mem card installation does not save any RAM or really serve any logical purpose unless the app will not install to phone storage or you have used it all up.
Mem card installation slows the phone down and why on earth would you not use the main storage mem when thats what its there for?
russeini said:
also everytime u install a program even if only to sd card, some files are installed on ur main memory. Only way to remove those minor files is by a hard reset. You can then assign shortcuts to ur sd card installed applications.
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Are you getting main memory and RAM mixed up?
Anything in main memory (storage mem) does not use up RAM therefore has no effect on it.
bradaman said:
Greetings everyone,
I'm new here and relatively newbish to HD2 (have it one month).
Id like to know what can I do to free some space on my device memory?
All tho I installed quite a lot of programs, I always installed them to storage card, so my guess is since device free memory is getting lower and lower
every time I check or install something, it's got to be some cache from Opera, google maps or programs maybe, temp. files from rar perhaps and similar.
So does anyone know for sure what can I delete in my device memory, in windows, etc and not damaging system...
Tried search but with no result...
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I found moving Opera Cache and HTC Album Cache really helped me a lot with the memory.
This is a good thread that will help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600578&highlight=move+opera+cache
RReckless
See also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
Tip 67
AND
delete google maps from main mem and make a fresh install with newest version on SD-card. This will also enable compass-direction to google maps.
Move copilot to SD-card with Resco explorer
u can try nd move ur cache folders to sd card but it all needs registry editing tweaks nd it may end up not working as for htc album cache for ex. so easiest is using clear temp my friend.
troed said:
See also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
Tip 67
AND
delete google maps from main mem and make a fresh install with newest version on SD-card. This will also enable compass-direction to google maps.
Move copilot to SD-card with Resco explorer
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In the tips, where it mentions "moving" things to the SD card there is no "move" option so if the folder (eg "My Device\My documents\My Pictures
") is cut and pasted to the SD card will the OS/Phone know to redirect/look in the new location?
russeini said:
memory depletion happens due:
- opera cache (\windows\opera9\profile\cache)
- IE mobile cache (\Windows\Profiles\Guest\cache)
- htc album cache (\application data\htc\htc album\cache) which is the greatest. i.e. if u have a alot of pics, then everytime you view them, ur album cache grows bigger and bigger and depletes memory.
My advice:
- install clear temp....it's free
- assign the custom folders in clear temp to the above folders.
clear ur cache with a press of a button. done
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nice little app, cheers for that......
pa49 said:
Are you getting main memory and RAM mixed up?
Anything in main memory (storage mem) does not use up RAM therefore has no effect on it.
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Of course not, I have some (I'll say advanced) knowledge in computers so I dont mix up some basic terms like this . I was thinking of Device memory (storage) not RAM. Since this windows mobile thing is relatively new to me, I wanted to know if deleting cache and temp. files does effect WM and Sense stability....
russeini said:
memory depletion happens due:
- opera cache (\windows\opera9\profile\cache)
- IE mobile cache (\Windows\Profiles\Guest\cache)
- htc album cache (\application data\htc\htc album\cache).
My advice:
- install clear temp....it's free
- assign the custom folders in clear temp to the above folders.
clear ur cache with a press of a button. done
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Thank you for this mate, just the thing I was looking for...
Oh, and one more question, I tend to switch themes made with HDWall frequently so when I install new theme, replacing old one, does it completely overwrite last one or I have enormous buildup of unused theme files on device memory?
russeini said:
memory depletion happens due:
- opera cache (\windows\opera9\profile\cache)
- IE mobile cache (\Windows\Profiles\Guest\cache)
- htc album cache (\application data\htc\htc album\cache) which is the greatest. i.e. if u have a alot of pics, then everytime you view them, ur album cache grows bigger and bigger and depletes memory.
My advice:
- install clear temp....it's free
- assign the custom folders in clear temp to the above folders.
clear ur cache with a press of a button. done
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I was a big fan of cleartemp but did not install it on the hd2 because I read on this forum somewhere that it not only wiped the phone's memory clean but also formatted the storage card!
bradaman said:
Of course not, I have some (I'll say advanced) knowledge in computers so I dont mix up some basic terms like this . I was thinking of Device memory (storage) not RAM. Since this windows mobile thing is relatively new to me, I wanted to know if deleting cache and temp. files does effect WM and Sense stability....
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OK
Just checking, because it's a common misconception about memory usage.
A lot of users think that installing on mem card will save RAM!?
Anf they think a lot of other eroneous things as well!
laguna33p said:
I was a big fan of cleartemp but did not install it on the hd2 because I read on this forum somewhere that it not only wiped the phone's memory clean but also formatted the storage card!
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works fine on my hd2.....