Possible HD user returns - Touch HD General

after a while of owning an omnia
and being really angry with it stability wise ive decided to get orange to try and get me the HD
what im looking for though is compatability with my exhisting apps
coreplayer 1.25
ifonz (1)
and the s2 series
and youtubeplay
if anyone can give me any help itll be much appreciated
just for hgeneral use
bear with me please ive not had a htc for a few months
i need to get back into the swing

i can confirm the s2 stuff. for youtube there is a builtin youtube player which works good. Coreplayer works ok but has not hardware acceleration at the moment so videos will be quite laggy. better to stick with builtin videoplayer (but you have to convert to mp4 your videos to have acceptable results). check on this forum blackstone video encoding gui.
dunno for ifonz as i have not tried it myself but a lot of programs which work alike (winterface to name one) are ok

cheers for the help. im using divx at the moment and was hoping to carry on in the hd
its a bit of a bumme though as the wiki says
AMD (Formerly ATI) Imageon 2300 graphics integrated (32MB RAM reserved for graphics) supporting OpenGL ES 1.0 and ?Direct3D Mobile.
by the way ive made the order and ill get it tomorrow

good choice if you ask me

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Questions from a potential wizard owner

I really like the wizard (cingular 8125) and am planning to get it but I have too questions about the product.
Is the wizard capable of smooth vidoe playback? I don't mind re-encoding to 320X240 using whichever format works the best. Needed for my long international flights. I don't want to buy an iPod video as that would be an extra item that I have to carry around halfway across the world.
Can windows mobile compatible games such as age of empires be played on the wizard? Again for those long flights.
Thanks is advance,
Smit
Yes and Yes
If you want decent video running you'll need to overclock (see Overclocking thread)
Does overclocking reduce the processor life as I plan to use it for atleast 2-4 years. I know this is true for desktop processor but don't know much abt pocket pc processors. Battery life is not a big concern as I plan to buy an additional battery anyway.
Thanks,
Smit
You don't need to overclock the Wizard if you're re-encoding video specifically for it. If you're watching high bitrate media that you encoded for your PC then yes, overclocking will help you view that kind of media but video that's specifically encoded at QVGA with a medium bitrate should work fine at the default clock speed.
I personally however keep my Wizard overclocked for other reasons, and yes the battery does drain quicker. It's a logical assumption that overclocking the Wizard will decrease the processor's lifetime but it's anyone's guess by how long. (Does anyone even know how long the Wizard's processor will last for under specifications?) However, since these processors are designed to run in ultra-low power modes with no active cooling, and low heat emissions, it would be purely my EDUCATED GUESS that the difference in life expectancy is negligible.
No one knows the awnser to that question, so far we have had very few reports of any problem with overclocking. Personally i overclock but plan only to keep my phone a year(I change it yearly) ,i would not be happy to overclock it longer than this because in theory it must shorten the life of some cpu's. However you can get perfectly good video at normal cpu speeds using xvid or divx at 320 x 240 res at 20 fps - at this it wont drop any frames. As for games most work fine but the really graphics intensive will be slow. If you can wait the htc hermes comes out soon which is very like the wizard but has a samsung 300 mhz processor which people say is equiv to intel 400 Mhz processor. Choice is yours - most users on the forum are very pleased with their wizard and i would consider replacing my wizard with a new one in six months time.
Does anyone know how windows mobile games such as pocket age of empires (big fan of it since it was initially released during pentium II days) runs on the wizard. I was considering Hermes but I don't really need the 3G capabilities and I am quite sure it is going to be a lot more expensive than the Wizard. I don't even thnk it will be offered in the US by the carriers as they don't seem to have wide UMTS coverage nor will they have one in the near future.
Thanks,
Smit
I'll try that game for you - interested myself how the game is and how it runs. Keep you posted.
Age of empires runs just great even with the phone not overclocked - was in demo mode though don't know if there are any more qraphics intensive parts of the game. Looks addictive though, a bit like spb airislands which i have and that is good. Q can it be completed without too much killing, i am not into meaningless killing - might consider buying the game.
Thanks for trying Age of Empires. Yes it is a very addictive game and you could easily spend hours. You could get by without killing a lot of people but this requires skill. Anyway I am looking forward to my new Cingular 8125.
Thanks,
Smit
I had this game running on my orginal xda without any problems so the wizard should fly it
What do you guys think of the eten M600 vs. the Wizard.
The M600 has a much faster processor (even beats Jasjar) but no edge and keyboard which also makes it slimmer than the Wizard.
a queston about another phone, in the wizard section, in a thread asking about the wizard... RANDOM
bsmit007 said:
I really like the wizard (cingular 8125) and am planning to get it but I have too questions about the product.
Is the wizard capable of smooth vidoe playback? I don't mind re-encoding to 320X240 using whichever format works the best. Needed for my long international flights. I don't want to buy an iPod video as that would be an extra item that I have to carry around halfway across the world.
Can windows mobile compatible games such as age of empires be played on the wizard? Again for those long flights.
Thanks is advance,
Smit
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i actually downsample all my vids using pocket divx encoder to 320x240, and i use TCPMP to play stuff. works fantastic, and i get comments from people all the time about how good the video looks. size is nice too. i can fit ~4 full-length feature films on my 1gig card, and have some space left over.
i did notice recently that i had to overclock for perfectly smooth playback of compressed video while using a2dp streaming, but hey, that's to be expected.
fantastic device. gives me a chubby every time i touch it.
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Me too, but I would highly advise against having sex with your HTC Wizard. I believe it voids your warranty
great so it looks like ill have to oc when my wizard arrives.
by any chance are there any higher capacity batteries for this phone out??
Hello all! Great, very helpful site!!! Fantastic!
I, too, am looking into getting an 8125 through Cingular and after reading through this thread I had a couple of questions:
1) If anyone is familiar with it, and if I had a 2Gb mini sd, could I play the original Unreal Tournament on the 8125?
2) I have quite a few tv shows on my HD (xvid). How would I go about changing them to 320x240 res?
Any help is appreciated!
Matt
matt0525 said:
2) I have quite a few tv shows on my HD (xvid). How would I go about changing them to 320x240 res?
Any help is appreciated!
Matt
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I use PocketDivxEncoder - http://divx.ppccool.com/
Free, & easy to use.
Tezcatlipoca said:
I use PocketDivxEncoder - http://divx.ppccool.com/
Free, & easy to use.
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Thanks a lot!! You rock!!!!

Help! Video playback jerky- is there any fix?

I might be in the wrong forum, I'm not hugely experienced- but I have a problem with my Advantage, and it is not easy to find forums about it.
I've got the X7500- and now I want to show small avi clips on my Advantage- wma files are really jerky and when I put the original avi clips in- they were better, but not smooth. Is there any work around? I am loading them into the micro-drive, since I don't have much in there- but I only have the WMplayer. Is there a better one?
This is a little bragging tool for me - the clips are not long- (I can't bore my viewers!) I don't want to watch a movie or anything... just show the progress of my young horse, and also of me actually on him. so the action is fairly quick.
I am a work-in-progress, expertise-wise... what I get interested in using- I spend the time to learn (usually has to be dead of night- Not much other time left after riding 2 horses in the day!.)
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Hi and welcome, I would try "TCPMP" found here "http://www.freewareppc.com/multimedia/tcpmp.shtml"
I use it and it works great. You may need to read the Help Me file after installing it. Good Luck...TJ
Thank you for the welcome! I downloaded and installed the coreplayer- and figured out the adding to playlist and file assoc. Once I did that- it got rid of the WMplayer assoc. thankfully!
I had come across mention of "TCPMP" in my reading, but didn't know enough about it.
I am running WM6 and it had asked for WM5 so I didn't know if it was compatible. Since it runs- I guess it is!
Thank you for your help and quick reply.
Barb
NP if I can help out I will since I have been helped out by so many in this forum. Good luck and enjoy...TJ
TCPMP is a free version which was later added with some lice looking skin and sold as coreplayer!
Believe me, TCPMP(free) plays video better than CorePlayer(commercial)!
Because of the fact that some codes used in TCPMP have no legal issues since its distributed free but Core cannot have them!
Regards,
Carty..
I have purchased coreplayer 1.21 and have been happily surprised by the improvements over TCPMP, including the youtube built in. Absolutely great for showing 'Achmed the dead terrorist' to my mates at work.
What I found to improve things, even when using TCPMP 0.72 was to encode the fils to the proper size.
Now there have been endless discussions in these forums about the best codecs to use, and the best resolutions and such, and everyone seemed to have a different result. seems each athena is slightly different. All i can say is that by using a program called handbrake at the recommendation of someone here, and setting the resolution to 640 by whatever, the video bit rate to somewhere between 600 and 750 kbps depending on the length of the film (I try to keep all films to around 512mb) and the audio bitrate to 128mb mp3, i get superb quality playback, to the envy of all my mates who have other older and newer HTC devices and other PPC's.
Best recommendation is to trawl through the pages and pages of video encoding threads here in the athena forum and try them all. Find which one is best for you and gets the quality you want and stick with that method.
oh yeah, and Windows media player is just simply terrible for video. never use it if you can possibly help it!
Thanks for that explanation! TCPMP loads in and shows up as Coreplayer, but it very plain. but since I don't need fancy- just something that works nicely- it is great. Once I figured out where to customize settings I was good to go! I've had PPcs for 8 years now, and the Advantage I love. worth every penny! and I still haven't activated the phone (only one carrier in Canada- and I don't like them!)
rhedgehog said:
I have purchased coreplayer 1.21 and have been happily surprised by the improvements over TCPMP, including the youtube built in. Absolutely great for showing 'Achmed the dead terrorist' to my mates at work.
What I found to improve things, even when using TCPMP 0.72 was to encode the fils to the proper size.
Now there have been endless discussions in these forums about the best codecs to use, and the best resolutions and such, and everyone seemed to have a different result. seems each athena is slightly different. All i can say is that by using a program called handbrake at the recommendation of someone here, and setting the resolution to 640 by whatever, the video bit rate to somewhere between 600 and 750 kbps depending on the length of the film (I try to keep all films to around 512mb) and the audio bitrate to 128mb mp3, i get superb quality playback, to the envy of all my mates who have other older and newer HTC devices and other PPC's.
Best recommendation is to trawl through the pages and pages of video encoding threads here in the athena forum and try them all. Find which one is best for you and gets the quality you want and stick with that method.
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Ok, Now you've lost me a little.... there is a program " Handbrake" ? where do you get it and will it customize TCPMP or do you customize the .avi file before you put it in? I'm wanting to load self-videos taken with a canon s1 IS which come out as avi's. I haven't found great success in authoring them with wmv- which is all I've got right now- the advantage of the single original file is quickness- take it.. download it and upload the single clip.
And I've found that WMplayer is terrible! just couldn't get rid of it before the TCPMP.

Omnia vs. HD?

Sorry if I post this in the wrong place but I just have to ask!
I also posted a similar thread over in the Touch Pro forum, but I want your opinions as well sense you are already using the HD!
I have today the Touch Pro, but I am considering to buy a new device becouse of the GPS lag and poor video performance!
I am tired of bringing several devices with me every time I want to go somewhere just becouse my EXPENCIVE HTC device cant do what it is supposed to do!
I am looking for a device that can play videos smoothly, no gps lag and of course I want to be able to take good pictures without having to worry about blured out photos as much as I do on my device!
Lets face it, I have had alot of HTC Devices over the years and it´s always something thats wrong with them!
I am keeping my TP in case something changes in the future, but for now I do feal that I have to get myself another device that is working properly!
Now my choice is betweek the HD and samsund Omnia!
Do you guys have any experience about the omnia vs HD?
Or do you reccoment another device that is in your opinion even better?
Thank you all in advance!
Well for video performance, as long as you install the right software then the Touch Pro, Omnia and HD will all do a great job. The Omnia and HD have the bigger screen so they'll be nicer to watch.
I personally can't confirm as my HD hasn't arrived yet but apparently there is still GPS lag in the HD as it uses the same CPU and GPS chip as the Touch Pro.
Does the Omnia have GPS? If so, try an Omnia forum and ask about lag there. It might be the one for you (with the nice 16Gb internal storage!)
Oppressa said:
Well for video performance, as long as you install the right software then the Touch Pro, Omnia and HD will all do a great job. The Omnia and HD have the bigger screen so they'll be nicer to watch.
I personally can't confirm as my HD hasn't arrived yet but apparently there is still GPS lag in the HD as it uses the same CPU and GPS chip as the Touch Pro.
Does the Omnia have GPS? If so, try an Omnia forum and ask about lag there. It might be the one for you (with the nice 16Gb internal storage!)
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Yes Omnia has GPS, but the question is where do I find an Omnia forum?
Thanks!
The QVGA and small screen puts me off.
However, I wish the Korean Omnia (T*Omnia) is available. It has the same resolution as Touch HD although still a small 3.3 inch screen. It has a television tuner, although I'm not sure if the tuner (T-DMB) works outside korea. It has flash for the camera too.
T*Omnia stirs my interest a lot. The question is whether and when Samsung will sell it outside Korea.
Someone mention he would try to get it from Korea, but I'm not sure if an English ROM is available.
It's 3.2 on the Omnia. Since when is 3.2 small? So 3.2 is small and I guess 3.8 is large?...
I have both and the HD outclasses the Omnia in virtually every respect ...other than the camera (and the Omnia's isn't that good) and the accelerometer (which has been disabled HTC in most applications out of the box). The HD is so slick that the faster processor in the Omnia isn't noticable and the mega-sensitive touch screen makes using the HD a comparative breeze (I've come from a Hermes so any other touch screen has to be an improvement), also the HD ships with an 8GB memory card.
Perhaps one other thing that the Omnia my have over the HD - the Omnia's got a lanyard hole!!
...gave the Omnia to my wife before you ask to buy it!
JTHM said:
I have both and the HD outclasses the Omnia in virtually every respect ...other than the camera (and the Omnia's isn't that good) and the accelerometer (which has been disabled HTC in most applications out of the box). The HD is so slick that the faster processor in the Omnia isn't noticable and the mega-sensitive touch screen makes using the HD a comparative breeze (I've come from a Hermes so any other touch screen has to be an improvement), also the HD ships with an 8GB memory card.
Perhaps one other thing that the Omnia my have over the HD - the Omnia's got a lanyard hole!!
...gave the Omnia to my wife before you ask to buy it!
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Okey so let me get this straight!
Does the Omnia also have the GPS lag, or are you saying that HD does not have the lag?
Also, I read in this forum that the video playback is a no go without conversion on HD, is it the same on Omnia or can it play videos smooth out of the box without conversion?
I am a little confused right now!
Thanks!
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Okey so let me get this straight!
Does the Omnia also have the GPS lag, or are you saying that HD does not have the lag?
Also, I read in this forum that the video playback is a no go without conversion on HD, is it the same on Omnia or can it play videos smooth out of the box without conversion?
I am a little confused right now!
Thanks!
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Since omnia has intelxscale technology it is fully supported by coreplayer 1.2.5. I've been testing it thoroughly and I can assure you it plays videos smoothly like your pc. (180% 200% in coreplayer's test)
The only thing that made me sell my omnia was the smaller and lower resolution screen
3.2" WQVGA (240x400) vs 3.8" WVGA (480x800)
but in video performance, touch hd sucks with coreplayer due to no hardware support and be advices this issue hasn't been resolved with HTC for 2 years now (the same goes for other devices as well).
mkMoSs said:
but in video performance, touch hd sucks with coreplayer due to no hardware support and be advices this issue hasn't been resolved with HTC for 2 years now (the same goes for other devices as well).
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You must be using a different device to me mate. Video playback is smooth with core player and everyother player i've used! Infact its the best i've ever seen on a mobile device!!!!! This question Omnia v HD is sooooo simple. If you want a smaller screen then you need the omnia, other wise it has to be the HD, it is simply the best device on the market!!!
donbronzi said:
You must be using a different device to me mate. Video playback is smooth with core player and everyother player i've used! Infact its the best i've ever seen on a mobile device!!!!! This question Omnia v HD is sooooo simple. If you want a smaller screen then you need the omnia, other wise it has to be the HD, it is simply the best device on the market!!!
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I so agree with this... I've never been as blown away about video experience on a phone as with my HD... And note I say "experience" which is not just performance, but instead the whole picture. Huge screen, superb sharpness (which goes a long way in making all the difference between even the Korean Omnia and the HD) and any DivX I throw at it runs like a breeze.
Of course I don't use 4GB files to watch my movies, I am one of those old fashioned people who still think that 800MB files provide more than enough detail for a phone screen. If you are one of those people who think they can clearly discern between 800MB and 1,5GB files on a mobile device and feel that 800MB looks totally crappy, don't listen to me
Edit: Forget this post, it was nonsense based on a total lapse of reason on my part
But to make a more useful comment: I will always prefer the HD interface over the Panels thing.
Never liked that dangling stylus on the omnia - a bit of a girly thing
branko.savic said:
Sorry if I post this in the wrong place but I just have to ask!
I also posted a similar thread over in the Touch Pro forum, but I want your opinions as well sense you are already using the HD!
I have today the Touch Pro, but I am considering to buy a new device becouse of the GPS lag and poor video performance!
I am tired of bringing several devices with me every time I want to go somewhere just becouse my EXPENCIVE HTC device cant do what it is supposed to do!
I am looking for a device that can play videos smoothly, no gps lag and of course I want to be able to take good pictures without having to worry about blured out photos as much as I do on my device!
Lets face it, I have had alot of HTC Devices over the years and it´s always something thats wrong with them!
I am keeping my TP in case something changes in the future, but for now I do feal that I have to get myself another device that is working properly!
Now my choice is betweek the HD and samsund Omnia!
Do you guys have any experience about the omnia vs HD?
Or do you reccoment another device that is in your opinion even better?
Thank you all in advance!
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I have come from the Omnia to the HD and I find the HD a much better device for me, so far I have not expierenced the GPS lag that is being mentioed a lot, i use iGO8 without any issues.
I have also watched 3 divx movies on the HD using coreplayed, again without any issues.
The camera is the standard HTC fare, it is good in ideal conditions and as I have said before it is only the fact that it is 5MP that makes it good, the Omnia camera is the best PDA phone camera I have ever used.
The HD has a built in stylus and not a "phone charm" dangling thing like the Omnia.
hope this helps
I have to disagree with the above commnets. I just got My HD yesterday from Orange. And I haven't installed any additional applications apart from coreplayer. I've tried running an episode of House 350mb divx/xvid file. And there isn't that much action in this program but I still get dithering/slow running. Also got a couple of movies on the card same format approx 715mb and again it doesn't run as nicely as I would have expected it to or have seen it to play (as the video on Youtube shows)
Any Suggestions???
I practically only got the phone for the nice big screen and so I can play videos on it. Not really bothered about a GPS lag.
Memory Card?
I've heard that the encoding of the program can cause it to stutter (in one of the many reviews I've read!) though it could also be the memory card you're using. Make sure its a decent class so that the read spead won't cause any issues.
For the people who think this device playbacks well on videos maybe you should do a little bit of search in this forum first...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444494
kersh did some tests, none of the videos performed 100% (which means minimum acceptable playback speed)
For people not so demanding on video playback performance this might not be an issue, but as I said in other posts this as an advertised multimedia device is expected to perform excellent which is NOT...
I haven't noticed any extraordinary GPS lag compared to other devices using iGo8 (there's some little lag but it's natural as the GPS receiver is polled at certain intervals, which should be compensated by software "magic"). I also tried two external GPS receivers, one based on SiRF III, another one based on MTK, and haven't found any difference in this regard.
Video playback on HD is quite tolerable and I seriously doubt it'll match that of powerful Marvel-based devices, but that's the limitation of the Qualcomm architecture. In addition to a weaker processor, the device also has higher resolution which adds to the problem. Omnia's performance is vastly superior, not just in video. I don't know whether the HD's hardware accelerator is or will be used and whether this will help. That being said, you can watch movies on this device, it's not a 200MHz Touch or something. In some movies you'll notice occasional frame skips, in others it's quite smooth, but you aren't trying to substitute your big screen plasma with this, are you?
If these are the two applications you use the devices for, Omnia could make sense. However, the screen there is awful. Low resolution makes web surfing quite painful, in the overview mode you can't read fonts at all. Also, esthetically, the pixels are huge and very visible, which makes using the device much less fun. This turned me off completely.
Jigzuk said:
I have to disagree with the above commnets. I just got My HD yesterday from Orange. And I haven't installed any additional applications apart from coreplayer. I've tried running an episode of House 350mb divx/xvid file. And there isn't that much action in this program but I still get dithering/slow running. Also got a couple of movies on the card same format approx 715mb and again it doesn't run as nicely as I would have expected it to or have seen it to play (as the video on Youtube shows)
Any Suggestions???
I practically only got the phone for the nice big screen and so I can play videos on it. Not really bothered about a GPS lag.
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i don't understand how you can disagree with my comments when they are my experiences with my device, anyway am not sure why you are experiencing stuttering and lags, but I have not had any so far, I have watched 3 700~mb divx movies and so far so good.
kao123 said:
i don't understand how you can disagree with my comments when they are my experiences with my device, anyway am not sure why you are experiencing stuttering and lags, but I have not had any so far, I have watched 3 700~mb divx movies and so far so good.
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Just the fact that a movie is a 700MB divx doesn't mean much, they are quite different in terms of performance. In my experience, some play OK to fine, others skip frames visibly in dynamic scenes. It's nowhere close to even 416MHz Intel/Marvel devices, let alone the 600+MHz Omnia.
Purchased Omnia!
Okey, so I decided to buy the Omnia even if most of you voted for the HD!
Boy am I glad I did that!
I have spent almost this whole day testing the device, the first thing I tested was to copy a 1.2 gb Xvid movie to it, it played out of the box with it´s built in touch player so I did not even have to install CorePlayer! And do I even have to mention that it did not lag/stutter even once watching the whole movie, with alot of action scenes!
Then I installed TomTom 7 and BeeLine GPS and went out for a walk!
Testing BeelineGPS while walking was a whole different experience then with my Touch Pro, the compas view rotated and adjusted it´s position with every step I took! (With Touch Pro it only updated every 10 to 20 meters!) What a difference!
TomTom performed just as well, it followed my car exactly even in high speed!
And it is alot snappier then my Touch Pro even tho it has less ram! Rotating screen is an instant and overall performance is way better then the TP!
Bare in mind that I have installed custom speedy rom in my TP, and the Omnia is all original! Now imagine what this device can do with a custom rom!
I dont know about you, but I can just say that I dont believe I made a misstake with this device, but I have to keep testing it a bit more, just had it one day so far!

winmo user: should i buy leo?

hey, i'm pretty new here, but not to windows mobile.
i've been using winmo 5 and 6 for years and it served me very well.
normally, i use my PSP to watch videos. after ripping DVDs, i need to convert it to a 480x272 AVC MP4 and its really time consuming on my 5 year old pc.
and after converting, i cannot turn off subtitles on the PSP, system doesn't support it.
then, i saw this phone with huge screen and yeah, in screen size and resolution:
nokia etc. phones < iPhone < PSP < HD2
hmm.
i researched and learnt that i still need to convert files on this machine. really? c'mon!
then i tried a dvd rip file on my P535, guess what, with 0.5GHz processor speed and no hardware help, it played flawlessly on TCPMP, modded for SRT subtitles.
but, i've read that not all apps work on HD2.
won't i be able to copy my TCPMP to it and just play?
my apps like rdcalc, airomap, coreplayer, adobe reader, garmin, age of empires, pocketgba... won't work? doesn't it run same OS, with even better specs?
another question, i see that many people is excited awaiting win phone 7.
it looks like some kind of iPhone OS, which i don't like.
is it really different than current winmos or should i wait for the new HD with phone 7 ? will i be able to do things currently i do now? why everyone is talking about it while it doesn't even support multitasking? do you think it will be hacked so it will be similar to current winmos?
and, a last question, is this phone easy to carry? man, it's huge!
thanks all for your help.
hd2
Phone is not bad at all to carry. I'm not upgrading to wm7, not interested, too many things I don't like, I'm happy with hd2 wm 6.5.. Other question, don't know, sorry. This is by far best phone I've ever had, "I have had lots""
wm 6.5 is going to be a dying breed but still has lots of apps. android seems to be on the rise and is getting more apps. iphone is still going strong.
even tho i got an hd2 just recently, i bought it because i can still run the apps that i have on my old sony x1a.
it really all about what you want to do with it now and maybe down the road a little. do research well before you commit to any phone you buy, especially if you buy one without a contract.
Hi!
I have both the HTC HD2 and the HTC Desire Android phone (my first Android, I have had a lot of WinMo phones though), and there is no doubt that I prefer the Desire over the HD2. I love the screen of the HD2 though, and would like to see that on an Android soon (supersonic maybe, if it ever comes to Europe). The Android OS seems much more integrated and the available apps in the market are great.
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i researched and learnt that i still need to convert files on this machine. really? c'mon!
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coreplayer on the hd2 can play divx and xvid video without any problems. coreplayer on my hd2 cannot play high definition 720p x264 video - the audio plays fine but the video is about 1fps.
tcpmp on the leo struggled to play the regular divx files, presumably a codec issue, but if the videos are converted to a smaller resolution/bit rate, then tcpmp can play them fine. tcpmp can't play the 720p videos at all.
535 said:
but, i've read that not all apps work on HD2.
won't i be able to copy my TCPMP to it and just play?
my apps like rdcalc, airomap, coreplayer, adobe reader, garmin, age of empires, pocketgba... won't work? doesn't it run same OS, with even better specs?
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The HD2 can run coreplayer, adobe reader and tcpmp, as I run these programs. As for the others, I'd be amazed if they don't run. I think what you have read is wrong.
535 said:
and, a last question, is this phone easy to carry? man, it's huge!
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No it's not. I have big hands and it's still a bit too big. You may have a different experience and not be bothered about that, but I am. Walking and texting isn't a good idea for me as it needs 2 hands to operate it and I'm always worried about it slipping out of my hands. I use a smaller phone (Nokia X6) during the week when I go to work.
so, many winmo apps can be run without problems?
i know it's not possible to run ordinary TCPMP on leo.
paalkr said:
Hi!
... The Android OS seems much more integrated and the available apps in the market are great.
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i'm afraid of "too many versions with are incompatible with each other" in that OS. i mean, the new version will come with flash support but oldies wont get it? not nice.
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i know it's not possible to run ordinary TCPMP on leo.
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I have TCPMP 0.72RC1 ARM PPC installed on my HD2.
ah, so that means i didnt do my homework after i've read "messed GUI" and "buttons dont work" messages, i think i got over afraid ...
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...tcpmp on the leo struggled to play the regular divx files, presumably a codec issue, but if the videos are converted to a smaller resolution/bit rate, then tcpmp can play them fine...
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it uses only software decoding, right? i'd expect same results on all machines.
so, videos that my old P535 play fine is not always going to be played on leo?
I have ran into only 2 old old games so far that I was not able to play on HD2 - apps wise everything ran perfectly so far... and I got installed over 200 (currently have about 30 installed).

My thoughts on the 10.1

RI've had my tab for a few weeks now and am generally happy with it.
The things I'm pleased with:
Battery life - can't fault it so far
Build quality
App compatability - generally no issues
Web browsing and music are good
Screen is fantastic
Things I'm unhappy with:
The omission of an actual sd card slot is an annoyance
Stock u.i laggy (using adw now)
Mac compatablity is lacking.Kies is ok for it but by no means fantastic
My biggest disappointment has been video compatability or lack of it. A lot of my videos are now digitally encoded, some are ok on the tab, others have horrendous breakup. I've done as much research as possible into re-encoding these to suitable format but no matter what program and settings I use I can't get them to run properly. I'm getting to the stage of moving down the Ipad route. I'd post screenshots but apparentlly can't for another 8 posts
Did you get the large update to touchwiz recently? I actually started using the stock video player now, as I don't have any problems with the playback. Unless you are enconding in some off the wall format, I would think you wouldn't have any problems.
No on the touchwiz update as yet. I have limited net access in that some things are blocked. Glorious Afghanistan I'm checking every now and then as I can bypass somethings but it's not showing any updates.
In regards to video encoding I've used settings recommended in these forums and also trialled the pavtube program as well as numerous others including handbrake. Pulling my hair out over it!
i agree with you with the Video Support, coming from the Galaxy s phone the Tab almost doesn't play anything without converting and stuff on my phone it just play everything without a need for any video player other than stock
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RMy biggest disappointment has been video compatability or lack of it. A lot of my videos are now digitally encoded, some are ok on the tab, others have horrendous breakup. I've done as much research as possible into re-encoding these to suitable format but no matter what program and settings I use I can't get them to run properly. I'm getting to the stage of moving down the Ipad route. I'd post screenshots but apparentlly can't for another 8 posts
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I had the same issue as you - pretty much everything I tried to play on the GT would break up or have other issues. I was about to return the tablet when I tried transferring a video over WiFi rather than Kies for the Mac. To my surprised it played flawlessly.
So, I rather suspect that your problem is Kies performing some sort of erroneous conversion on the video as it is transferring the video across to the tablet.
I don't use Kies for the Mac anymore, and always transfer files via WiFi, and seldom have any playback issues now.
Regards,
Dave
If you transfer photos/movies from a MAC via the current version of kies then these get corrupted...
I'll try the wifi tip cheers. Although a friend has a 5 year old laptop that I tried the converted videos on and the same breakup occured through vlc. No probs with any of the encoded videos through vlc on my mac pro though.
Tried the wifi tip and works Shame it's a little on the slow side but it'll do till there's a better way
Kies is definately broken for the mac, it hasn't corrupted every video I transferred but enough to really annoy!
Cheers for the tip
The touchwiz update is almost perfect IMHO, I had lags with vanilla ui but since twz update, I enjoy my tab except for one thing:
My fingers literally hurt from overuse of gab10.1!
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The Tegra 2 is not capable to decoding most HD video. The video accelerator (seperate from the GPU) is simply too slow and can not decode most h.264 profiles other than profiles which are obsolete (baseline for example)
Sorry folks, its not a problem with the actual software, its the Tegra 2 which is simply too slow to decode much of todays HD video.
Agreed. As an owner of both a Captivate and Tab 10.1 I am less than impressed with the video performance of this Tab. My Cappy blows it away.
Now the only thing the Tab has over the Cappy is support for legacy DIVX codecs. With the latest update all of my DIVX movies work. But the Cappy still runs laps over the Tab. A shame really. One step forward, two steps back.
You have to understand that Tegra 2 is a very old chip despite tablets just being released due to honeycomb delays.
All future tablet chipsets like the Tegra 3 and others will be able to decode any HD content without performance issues.
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My biggest disappointment has been video compatability or lack of it. A lot of my videos are now digitally encoded, some are ok on the tab, others have horrendous breakup. I've done as much research as possible into re-encoding these to suitable format but no matter what program and settings I use I can't get them to run properly. I'm getting to the stage of moving down the Ipad route. I'd post screenshots but apparentlly can't for another 8 posts
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Use Dice player, and u will see how all videos will played nice!
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You have to understand that Tegra 2 is a very old chip despite tablets just being released due to honeycomb delays.
All future tablet chipsets like the Tegra 3 and others will be able to decode any HD content without performance issues.
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I won't count on that. The chipset used in Captivate is even older than Tegra 2. It's all about the drivers and matuality of the OS. HoneyComb just don't have much video codec support to be hornest. Tegra 1 chip in my Zune player plays 720p video better than Tegra 2 in my Tab. And there are 3rd party player app that can use Tegra 2 hardware acceleration to play videos that stock player can't. This is all software limitations in stock HC. Even when Tegra 3 comes out, HC as is will have the same limitation unless Google gets its act together.
I use dice player now, and my tab plays anything I throw at it. 1080p MKVs and avi files play awesome, even supports the multiple audio tracks and subtitles. No complaints here.
I personally don't need any more power in the tablet, it does everything I want it to do flawlessly.

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