Help! Video playback jerky- is there any fix? - Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General

I might be in the wrong forum, I'm not hugely experienced- but I have a problem with my Advantage, and it is not easy to find forums about it.
I've got the X7500- and now I want to show small avi clips on my Advantage- wma files are really jerky and when I put the original avi clips in- they were better, but not smooth. Is there any work around? I am loading them into the micro-drive, since I don't have much in there- but I only have the WMplayer. Is there a better one?
This is a little bragging tool for me - the clips are not long- (I can't bore my viewers!) I don't want to watch a movie or anything... just show the progress of my young horse, and also of me actually on him. so the action is fairly quick.
I am a work-in-progress, expertise-wise... what I get interested in using- I spend the time to learn (usually has to be dead of night- Not much other time left after riding 2 horses in the day!.)
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Hi and welcome, I would try "TCPMP" found here "http://www.freewareppc.com/multimedia/tcpmp.shtml"
I use it and it works great. You may need to read the Help Me file after installing it. Good Luck...TJ

Thank you for the welcome! I downloaded and installed the coreplayer- and figured out the adding to playlist and file assoc. Once I did that- it got rid of the WMplayer assoc. thankfully!
I had come across mention of "TCPMP" in my reading, but didn't know enough about it.
I am running WM6 and it had asked for WM5 so I didn't know if it was compatible. Since it runs- I guess it is!
Thank you for your help and quick reply.
Barb

NP if I can help out I will since I have been helped out by so many in this forum. Good luck and enjoy...TJ

TCPMP is a free version which was later added with some lice looking skin and sold as coreplayer!
Believe me, TCPMP(free) plays video better than CorePlayer(commercial)!
Because of the fact that some codes used in TCPMP have no legal issues since its distributed free but Core cannot have them!
Regards,
Carty..

I have purchased coreplayer 1.21 and have been happily surprised by the improvements over TCPMP, including the youtube built in. Absolutely great for showing 'Achmed the dead terrorist' to my mates at work.
What I found to improve things, even when using TCPMP 0.72 was to encode the fils to the proper size.
Now there have been endless discussions in these forums about the best codecs to use, and the best resolutions and such, and everyone seemed to have a different result. seems each athena is slightly different. All i can say is that by using a program called handbrake at the recommendation of someone here, and setting the resolution to 640 by whatever, the video bit rate to somewhere between 600 and 750 kbps depending on the length of the film (I try to keep all films to around 512mb) and the audio bitrate to 128mb mp3, i get superb quality playback, to the envy of all my mates who have other older and newer HTC devices and other PPC's.
Best recommendation is to trawl through the pages and pages of video encoding threads here in the athena forum and try them all. Find which one is best for you and gets the quality you want and stick with that method.

oh yeah, and Windows media player is just simply terrible for video. never use it if you can possibly help it!

Thanks for that explanation! TCPMP loads in and shows up as Coreplayer, but it very plain. but since I don't need fancy- just something that works nicely- it is great. Once I figured out where to customize settings I was good to go! I've had PPcs for 8 years now, and the Advantage I love. worth every penny! and I still haven't activated the phone (only one carrier in Canada- and I don't like them!)

rhedgehog said:
I have purchased coreplayer 1.21 and have been happily surprised by the improvements over TCPMP, including the youtube built in. Absolutely great for showing 'Achmed the dead terrorist' to my mates at work.
What I found to improve things, even when using TCPMP 0.72 was to encode the fils to the proper size.
Now there have been endless discussions in these forums about the best codecs to use, and the best resolutions and such, and everyone seemed to have a different result. seems each athena is slightly different. All i can say is that by using a program called handbrake at the recommendation of someone here, and setting the resolution to 640 by whatever, the video bit rate to somewhere between 600 and 750 kbps depending on the length of the film (I try to keep all films to around 512mb) and the audio bitrate to 128mb mp3, i get superb quality playback, to the envy of all my mates who have other older and newer HTC devices and other PPC's.
Best recommendation is to trawl through the pages and pages of video encoding threads here in the athena forum and try them all. Find which one is best for you and gets the quality you want and stick with that method.
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Ok, Now you've lost me a little.... there is a program " Handbrake" ? where do you get it and will it customize TCPMP or do you customize the .avi file before you put it in? I'm wanting to load self-videos taken with a canon s1 IS which come out as avi's. I haven't found great success in authoring them with wmv- which is all I've got right now- the advantage of the single original file is quickness- take it.. download it and upload the single clip.
And I've found that WMplayer is terrible! just couldn't get rid of it before the TCPMP.

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Best working media player (audio)?

I understand WMP 10 isn't the best, and that Pocketmusic is not tickety-boo running on WM2005, so what would you recommend I use?
I kind of want to have settings for graphic equalisers or presets, but I could live without it.
Thanks guys,
Joe
PS If anyone's wondering about whether this device is worth the cash and the phone contract, well, my girlfriend saw mine yesterday when it arrived, and she likes it. No big deal you may say, but she hated the XDA II and IIi, thought the XDA IIs looked better, but still not impressed, and with this one, ten minutes of playing and she was working out if she could get one. High praise indeed!!
PocketPlayer by Conduits
I love PocketPlayer - tried lots of them and this is the best. Handles everything, has plug in support for voicecommand etc. It's not free, but it is very good...
IMHO TCPMP is the best available. It plays every format that you throw at it, had a built in pre-amp (so you can increase or decrease volume beyond normal limits), full graphic equaliser and even a user setable offset for times when the lipsync is off on your videos! And it's free!
Make sure you also read my multimedia-related articles; for example the one at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1656&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
I'll also soon publish an all-in-one roundup of all MM players - stay tuned

Website for <128Mb movie's anyone?

Anyone know somewhere to download sub 128Mb converted movie files, I appreciate this is a touch immoral/illegal but I only want to download movies I already own, :wink: and bearing in mind how long it takes to download 128Mb on broadband compared to how long it takes to do a conversion I think it would be very popular, perhaps people using P2P or or seeding torents should start hosting movies with a SUB128 Prefix? i,e.
SUB128_IRobot.avi
I reckon this would go down well with PPC owners! Maybe its already on the go what with IPOD's/PSP's
Regards
Even if you already own the movie it is still illegal to download it.
Grey area I think, the same applies to music and yet it is perfectly legal to download music after purchasing it from a legit website, I tunes for instance. Same thing applies to software and yet once you have paid for a key to activate the software you can download it as often as you like and from anywhere you like. I would like to see any court prosecute someone for downloading something they already owned, but that's another subject
gooroo: try some of the p900 sites. They used to be quite happy to distribute them.
The equivalent of xda devs for p900 is probably a board called www.esato.com
I used to frequent it in my heathen days. Search around. They have literally 4 gazillion music videos and films etc on this thread:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=41136&start=465#post609633
Note - it's 608 pages long. Do read it all and let us know how you get on
V
gooroo said:
Anyone know somewhere to download sub 128Mb converted movie files, I appreciate this is a touch immoral/illegal but I only want to download movies I already own, :wink: and bearing in mind how long it takes to download 128Mb on broadband compared to how long it takes to do a conversion I think it would be very popular, perhaps people using P2P or or seeding torents should start hosting movies with a SUB128 Prefix? i,e.
SUB128_IRobot.avi
I reckon this would go down well with PPC owners! Maybe its already on the go what with IPOD's/PSP's
Regards
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I hear that Pocket DVD Studio is gfood for converting DVD's you own.... anmd Tempest is good for converting DIVX movies. So I hear.
PocketDIVXEncoder / lathe are very good.
But hosting or distributing these films would be clearly illegal.
However, if you check on ebay you can find a few "superdisks" for the p900 etc with a number of compressed films on them...
V
I just came across this forum whilst on a quest surfing the net, looks like its in its infancy think I may have to keep an eye on it :wink:
http://www.phpbber.com/phpbb/index.php?mforum=sub128video
Regards
gooroo said:
I just came across this forum whilst on a quest surfing the net, looks like its in its infancy think I may have to keep an eye on it :wink:
http://www.phpbber.com/phpbb/index.php?mforum=sub128video
Regards
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Definately in its infancy :lol:
gooroo said:
Anyone know somewhere to download sub 128Mb converted movie files
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This is a great idea.
Why 128MB though? Is this a good quality/filesize compromise?
Is it easy to rip DVDs into that size for playback on a PPC? I'd love to know how for long journeys, but my only experiments haven't been successful.
128Mb so it would fit on a 128Mb memory card, but not written in stone, I played for ages with various s/w but now have IRobot in 200Mb full screen on my Universal, looks great, but took ages to do the conversion, thats why I think that website may have been started? Hehehehe
Regards
gooroo said:
128Mb so it would fit on a 128Mb memory card, but not written in stone, I played for ages with various s/w but now have IRobot in 200Mb full screen on my Universal, looks great, but took ages to do the conversion, thats why I think that website may have been started? Hehehehe
Regards
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640x480, movie length, in 200Mb??
What sound settings?
i use pocket DVD studio to convert movie to 320x240 at 15fps and reasonable default sound and get 200mb per film.
it plays back very well with good quality sound and picture bearing in mind the resolution. the only time it pixelates is on fast moving action but cannot complain.
i have chosen this setting because a) i had a blue angel before the Exec and converted these before hand and b) i can get basically 4 movies on a 1gb card so watch while at work in quiet times.
i will give the 640x480 setting a try once i get round to converting my star wars box set collection onto ppc format.
thanks
I didn't convert IRobot to 640x480, I coverted it to 320x240 with Stereo FM quality, I also adjust the start and end to remove the intro and credits. When playing it back with TCPMP it gets scaled to fill the Universals screen automatically when you select full screen. The screen is not much bigger than a 320x240 screen anyway so when scaled to fit the picture is still pretty damn good on the Universal, I really dont think the extra size of the final file is worth the true 640x480 resolution, but if you want to play it in windows media player you do have to convert it to 640x480 to get full screen playback otherwise it plays in a smaller area in the center of the screen.
Regards
gooroo said:
I didn't convert IRobot to 640x480, I coverted it to 320x240
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Makes sense now, cheers!
l6cum said:
i use pocket DVD studio to convert movie
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Lordy! Pocket DVD Studio is $40!! It had better be good!

Questions from a potential wizard owner

I really like the wizard (cingular 8125) and am planning to get it but I have too questions about the product.
Is the wizard capable of smooth vidoe playback? I don't mind re-encoding to 320X240 using whichever format works the best. Needed for my long international flights. I don't want to buy an iPod video as that would be an extra item that I have to carry around halfway across the world.
Can windows mobile compatible games such as age of empires be played on the wizard? Again for those long flights.
Thanks is advance,
Smit
Yes and Yes
If you want decent video running you'll need to overclock (see Overclocking thread)
Does overclocking reduce the processor life as I plan to use it for atleast 2-4 years. I know this is true for desktop processor but don't know much abt pocket pc processors. Battery life is not a big concern as I plan to buy an additional battery anyway.
Thanks,
Smit
You don't need to overclock the Wizard if you're re-encoding video specifically for it. If you're watching high bitrate media that you encoded for your PC then yes, overclocking will help you view that kind of media but video that's specifically encoded at QVGA with a medium bitrate should work fine at the default clock speed.
I personally however keep my Wizard overclocked for other reasons, and yes the battery does drain quicker. It's a logical assumption that overclocking the Wizard will decrease the processor's lifetime but it's anyone's guess by how long. (Does anyone even know how long the Wizard's processor will last for under specifications?) However, since these processors are designed to run in ultra-low power modes with no active cooling, and low heat emissions, it would be purely my EDUCATED GUESS that the difference in life expectancy is negligible.
No one knows the awnser to that question, so far we have had very few reports of any problem with overclocking. Personally i overclock but plan only to keep my phone a year(I change it yearly) ,i would not be happy to overclock it longer than this because in theory it must shorten the life of some cpu's. However you can get perfectly good video at normal cpu speeds using xvid or divx at 320 x 240 res at 20 fps - at this it wont drop any frames. As for games most work fine but the really graphics intensive will be slow. If you can wait the htc hermes comes out soon which is very like the wizard but has a samsung 300 mhz processor which people say is equiv to intel 400 Mhz processor. Choice is yours - most users on the forum are very pleased with their wizard and i would consider replacing my wizard with a new one in six months time.
Does anyone know how windows mobile games such as pocket age of empires (big fan of it since it was initially released during pentium II days) runs on the wizard. I was considering Hermes but I don't really need the 3G capabilities and I am quite sure it is going to be a lot more expensive than the Wizard. I don't even thnk it will be offered in the US by the carriers as they don't seem to have wide UMTS coverage nor will they have one in the near future.
Thanks,
Smit
I'll try that game for you - interested myself how the game is and how it runs. Keep you posted.
Age of empires runs just great even with the phone not overclocked - was in demo mode though don't know if there are any more qraphics intensive parts of the game. Looks addictive though, a bit like spb airislands which i have and that is good. Q can it be completed without too much killing, i am not into meaningless killing - might consider buying the game.
Thanks for trying Age of Empires. Yes it is a very addictive game and you could easily spend hours. You could get by without killing a lot of people but this requires skill. Anyway I am looking forward to my new Cingular 8125.
Thanks,
Smit
I had this game running on my orginal xda without any problems so the wizard should fly it
What do you guys think of the eten M600 vs. the Wizard.
The M600 has a much faster processor (even beats Jasjar) but no edge and keyboard which also makes it slimmer than the Wizard.
a queston about another phone, in the wizard section, in a thread asking about the wizard... RANDOM
bsmit007 said:
I really like the wizard (cingular 8125) and am planning to get it but I have too questions about the product.
Is the wizard capable of smooth vidoe playback? I don't mind re-encoding to 320X240 using whichever format works the best. Needed for my long international flights. I don't want to buy an iPod video as that would be an extra item that I have to carry around halfway across the world.
Can windows mobile compatible games such as age of empires be played on the wizard? Again for those long flights.
Thanks is advance,
Smit
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i actually downsample all my vids using pocket divx encoder to 320x240, and i use TCPMP to play stuff. works fantastic, and i get comments from people all the time about how good the video looks. size is nice too. i can fit ~4 full-length feature films on my 1gig card, and have some space left over.
i did notice recently that i had to overclock for perfectly smooth playback of compressed video while using a2dp streaming, but hey, that's to be expected.
fantastic device. gives me a chubby every time i touch it.
...
Me too, but I would highly advise against having sex with your HTC Wizard. I believe it voids your warranty
great so it looks like ill have to oc when my wizard arrives.
by any chance are there any higher capacity batteries for this phone out??
Hello all! Great, very helpful site!!! Fantastic!
I, too, am looking into getting an 8125 through Cingular and after reading through this thread I had a couple of questions:
1) If anyone is familiar with it, and if I had a 2Gb mini sd, could I play the original Unreal Tournament on the 8125?
2) I have quite a few tv shows on my HD (xvid). How would I go about changing them to 320x240 res?
Any help is appreciated!
Matt
matt0525 said:
2) I have quite a few tv shows on my HD (xvid). How would I go about changing them to 320x240 res?
Any help is appreciated!
Matt
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I use PocketDivxEncoder - http://divx.ppccool.com/
Free, & easy to use.
Tezcatlipoca said:
I use PocketDivxEncoder - http://divx.ppccool.com/
Free, & easy to use.
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Thanks a lot!! You rock!!!!

Possible HD user returns

after a while of owning an omnia
and being really angry with it stability wise ive decided to get orange to try and get me the HD
what im looking for though is compatability with my exhisting apps
coreplayer 1.25
ifonz (1)
and the s2 series
and youtubeplay
if anyone can give me any help itll be much appreciated
just for hgeneral use
bear with me please ive not had a htc for a few months
i need to get back into the swing
i can confirm the s2 stuff. for youtube there is a builtin youtube player which works good. Coreplayer works ok but has not hardware acceleration at the moment so videos will be quite laggy. better to stick with builtin videoplayer (but you have to convert to mp4 your videos to have acceptable results). check on this forum blackstone video encoding gui.
dunno for ifonz as i have not tried it myself but a lot of programs which work alike (winterface to name one) are ok
cheers for the help. im using divx at the moment and was hoping to carry on in the hd
its a bit of a bumme though as the wiki says
AMD (Formerly ATI) Imageon 2300 graphics integrated (32MB RAM reserved for graphics) supporting OpenGL ES 1.0 and ?Direct3D Mobile.
by the way ive made the order and ill get it tomorrow
good choice if you ask me

Xvid + Divx + AC3 Support - Where is it ?

MOD EDIT - REPORTED FOUL LANGUAGE REMOVED
It would appear, ambiently, that other Android handsets have some forms of support for Divx + Xvid - I say ambiently as this is from perusing Engadet, Pocket Lint etc etc I have also seen various threads looking at porting WM tools and attempting to address what I consider to be a major shortfall of Android so far, at least where HTC handsets are concerned. I, like many many others, have a major collection of Films using Xvid and Divx, with many using AC3 as the Audio codec. The 'solution' so far has been for wise individuals to point out the blindingly obvious and to convert using Handbrake, Xilisoft etc Here's the thing - why should I have to ? To me, it's tantamount to saying 'Just re-encode all your MP3's - it took me ages to rip them from CD, get the metatags correct, album art etc - no way !! Also, MPEG4 is rubbish - I've never liked it.
As an open slate, from an Applications point of view (can't stand this crApple use of the term 'Apps') the Hero is very good - the music player is so so - acceptable I guess. As a gaming platform, it looks to be improving with underlying code and SDK support improving all the time - yet there is this gaping hole in its multimedia 'arsenal' - that of movie support. I can't be the only one who sees this as very important. Much discussion on here is the distraction of the 'technical' - I don't think that everyone wants geek Linux on a Mobile - that's not sexy to most other than uber uber geeks. What is is Multimedia prowess - excellent Music, Film and Gaming - with the applications stuff surely running second fiddle to this. So, I'd like to get some discussion going to see if people feel the same way or this kind of movie support is seen as superfluous. Also, if people know of (other than the exceptionally crap yxflash) any Vxid Divx and AC3 support tools, installable codecs or applications I'd love to hear from you.
Regards,
Simon
Dude,
You need to cut out all the swearing!
I have used yxflash too - useless, laggy, not worth the download time!But, I have just been reading about the HTC Desire which apparently comes with Divx support out of the box! So, hopefully one of the genius devs on here will be able to get this working on our Hero's soon
Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous of Google to think this doesn't matter. This would have been an excellent feature to contrast with Apple. I was playing all sorts of codecs on winmo with the core media player years before android.
Firstly, it's a cellphone... it's not your ****ing TV or laptop.... you don't need all your mp3s and videos immediately ready on your phone. If you really HAVE to watch a video on the go you can easily convert it.
Ok, I know you didn't want to hear this.
Now, it's not Google's business to develop special apps. OEMs like HTC can include extra features by default and it's not so hard to make an app that uses ported native libraries.
Well, another thing: DivX is "dead". There's no DivX hardware decoder chip included in newer hardware, so even if someone makes an app it'll drain the battery or even worse, not run fast enough. Now, there's only limited space in a phone's hardware. You can't add all chips for all codecs. It's only natural that the manufacturers only choose the newest most advanced codec.
Quite clearly an idiot - most probably American
Woo - we spotted your 'attempts' at a windup - did you employ everything you learnt at kindergarten ? I mean - you're good - we've seen the classics:
Dismissal, condescension, 'superiority' - such insight, breathtaking
Just some suggestions that spring to mind, son: Cliffs, rope, 200 Paracetamol, guns - in fact anything that may cause you harm
It's food for thought

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