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I might be in the wrong forum, I'm not hugely experienced- but I have a problem with my Advantage, and it is not easy to find forums about it.
I've got the X7500- and now I want to show small avi clips on my Advantage- wma files are really jerky and when I put the original avi clips in- they were better, but not smooth. Is there any work around? I am loading them into the micro-drive, since I don't have much in there- but I only have the WMplayer. Is there a better one?
This is a little bragging tool for me - the clips are not long- (I can't bore my viewers!) I don't want to watch a movie or anything... just show the progress of my young horse, and also of me actually on him. so the action is fairly quick.
I am a work-in-progress, expertise-wise... what I get interested in using- I spend the time to learn (usually has to be dead of night- Not much other time left after riding 2 horses in the day!.)
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Hi and welcome, I would try "TCPMP" found here "http://www.freewareppc.com/multimedia/tcpmp.shtml"
I use it and it works great. You may need to read the Help Me file after installing it. Good Luck...TJ
Thank you for the welcome! I downloaded and installed the coreplayer- and figured out the adding to playlist and file assoc. Once I did that- it got rid of the WMplayer assoc. thankfully!
I had come across mention of "TCPMP" in my reading, but didn't know enough about it.
I am running WM6 and it had asked for WM5 so I didn't know if it was compatible. Since it runs- I guess it is!
Thank you for your help and quick reply.
Barb
NP if I can help out I will since I have been helped out by so many in this forum. Good luck and enjoy...TJ
TCPMP is a free version which was later added with some lice looking skin and sold as coreplayer!
Believe me, TCPMP(free) plays video better than CorePlayer(commercial)!
Because of the fact that some codes used in TCPMP have no legal issues since its distributed free but Core cannot have them!
Regards,
Carty..
I have purchased coreplayer 1.21 and have been happily surprised by the improvements over TCPMP, including the youtube built in. Absolutely great for showing 'Achmed the dead terrorist' to my mates at work.
What I found to improve things, even when using TCPMP 0.72 was to encode the fils to the proper size.
Now there have been endless discussions in these forums about the best codecs to use, and the best resolutions and such, and everyone seemed to have a different result. seems each athena is slightly different. All i can say is that by using a program called handbrake at the recommendation of someone here, and setting the resolution to 640 by whatever, the video bit rate to somewhere between 600 and 750 kbps depending on the length of the film (I try to keep all films to around 512mb) and the audio bitrate to 128mb mp3, i get superb quality playback, to the envy of all my mates who have other older and newer HTC devices and other PPC's.
Best recommendation is to trawl through the pages and pages of video encoding threads here in the athena forum and try them all. Find which one is best for you and gets the quality you want and stick with that method.
oh yeah, and Windows media player is just simply terrible for video. never use it if you can possibly help it!
Thanks for that explanation! TCPMP loads in and shows up as Coreplayer, but it very plain. but since I don't need fancy- just something that works nicely- it is great. Once I figured out where to customize settings I was good to go! I've had PPcs for 8 years now, and the Advantage I love. worth every penny! and I still haven't activated the phone (only one carrier in Canada- and I don't like them!)
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I have purchased coreplayer 1.21 and have been happily surprised by the improvements over TCPMP, including the youtube built in. Absolutely great for showing 'Achmed the dead terrorist' to my mates at work.
What I found to improve things, even when using TCPMP 0.72 was to encode the fils to the proper size.
Now there have been endless discussions in these forums about the best codecs to use, and the best resolutions and such, and everyone seemed to have a different result. seems each athena is slightly different. All i can say is that by using a program called handbrake at the recommendation of someone here, and setting the resolution to 640 by whatever, the video bit rate to somewhere between 600 and 750 kbps depending on the length of the film (I try to keep all films to around 512mb) and the audio bitrate to 128mb mp3, i get superb quality playback, to the envy of all my mates who have other older and newer HTC devices and other PPC's.
Best recommendation is to trawl through the pages and pages of video encoding threads here in the athena forum and try them all. Find which one is best for you and gets the quality you want and stick with that method.
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Ok, Now you've lost me a little.... there is a program " Handbrake" ? where do you get it and will it customize TCPMP or do you customize the .avi file before you put it in? I'm wanting to load self-videos taken with a canon s1 IS which come out as avi's. I haven't found great success in authoring them with wmv- which is all I've got right now- the advantage of the single original file is quickness- take it.. download it and upload the single clip.
And I've found that WMplayer is terrible! just couldn't get rid of it before the TCPMP.
Guys as omnia Has launched in my country [India]...i am a bit confused over which handset to pic..I love the looks of HTC hero AND its Android!!...i would be very greatful to you if u could give me ur precious and honest inputs on HTC HERO ...the people who actually have it.
what i really want is:
1. Fast UI...Obviously iphone is the best here but i need something at least close to it..my bro has iphone so i m taking another phone..HTC obviously has ANDROID but is it quite quick..i heard about the lag but some say there is an update coming??
2. MUSIC.. i want the bass specailly to be good and loudness in the overall music of the handset and good for the video as well..
3. MESSAGING...has to be easy..i heard that OMNIA has only landscape mode..so both hands needed!! but HTC hero has a good keyboard.. i have seen in the videos..is it fast??
so which one should i go for guys?? please give me ur honest views and dont just give it cause u own a HERO ...THANKS!
Android as of yet has no equalizer, so boosting bass for music is out of the question for now (it's on the roadmap, however). Music quality is definitely passable for average listening but not as high quality as most dedicated players.
As for a fast interface, well the current phones have varying amounts of lag (some people seem to suffer worse than others, probably depends on what apps you install). The upcoming updates plan to at least fix the lag caused by the homescreen widgets.
My impression of speed on how I currently have my Hero set up is that it is very liveable with. It isn't always LIGHTNING fast (sometimes it is though!), but very usable and responsive.
Messaging is great in my opinion. The keyboard is the fastest phone keypad I have used yet (although I've never used a flip out qwerty on such phones as the touch pro) and I really enjoy typing. The prediction is pretty good and almost always knows what I want to write.
Hope that helps!
thanks KIZ for ur useful input...
but i wanna know if the music is loud enough or better than samsung omnia HD?? i know the videos arent that great though..
I've got both.
To be honest, I think that the hero blows away the omnia in every area apart from video playback and recording. Only go for the omnia if that's of a great priority to you.
In terms of music playback, id recommend a separate mp3 player if you want top quality. Both machines don't have great sound quality but they are decent and comparable. Not even the ipod cut it as far as I was concerned so I got the Sony x series mp3 player.
Overall, the hero is awesome. Apps are easier to find, and tend to be better than the symbian alternative. Email, YouTube, facebook integration, the keyboard, easier doc editing, stability, podcast software are just a handful of reasons I prefer the hero.
no i dont care for the camera...but ill have to convert most videos for HERO...but then i heard that more than 15 fps and video playback isnt great??
and another question...what is the highest memory card supported?? 16 gb?? or if i use 32 gb??
Hey guys, just sold one of my TG01's and was thinking of what new phone to get. I've been thinking about the Leo, but im not 100% sure yet, how are you guys liking it or disliking it?
any other phones you guys suggest?
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From my point of view it is the best WinMo phone out there. It does have its issues but they are more from a perspective of it could be done better and does not compare to other competing phones.
The iPhone is also a great phone but a different audience. I personally would/do get frustrated with a iPhone but would easily buy one for my wife.
In every aspect the HD2 tops every other phone and once you get it in your hands you will love it. My battery usage suxs as I can't help picking it up and playing with it. It spends more time being fondled than actually making calls
Video playback is a dream. Screen is great to use and its big but you don't even notice it in your pocket.
5 stars from me.
It's a spectacular handset a far as i'm concerned. Obviously some people have experienced bugs and so they'll have a different perspective, but so far my experience is overwhelmingly positive. I came from a kaiser, and the performance feels like a huge leap. Full desktop-page web browsing is astounding - but maybe those coming from more recent phones wont be so blown away. I just can't believe how quickly it renders desktop content, how smooth the scrolling is, and how readable it all is even at quite a low zoom level.
The handset really is a joy to use. In the past i've had issues with winmo forgetting wireless network keys etc. - no such misfortune here. It's storing 2 or three and switching between them as i move around the building with no hiccups at all. Battery life feels better with wireless on too, but i have not measured this empirically.
I would prefer more apps to auto rotate out of the box, but there are already posts around the net (probably here too although i haven't looked) about easily brining in this sort of tweak. That's the reason you get a phone with this sort of platform really - the flexibility it affords you. The experience is completely customisable, although that said, it's pretty damn fantastic straight out of the box
Leo is the best wm ppc out there right now! Of course all the good scoops are in the threads in the Leo section...
Great phone, best PPC without a doubt.
Certainly not topping every other phone in every aspect, as one person above suggests, but very good.
One line summary of the HD 2: A rough diamond waiting to be polished.
Either wait until Custom ROMS are avaliable or just get a DROID / Milestone
If you like WinMo, Leo's the best WinMo handset at teh moment. Probably you will have to figure out what you really expect from a handset.
Btw, Milestone yuck! Just sayin'
I heard on two main issues:
1. Pink tint on the pictures (is it fixed yet)?
2. WinMo typical slow downs over time. Lags, etc, even on the Sense UI level. Is it true?
How does it compare to units like HTC Pro for instance in terms of smootheness and lags?
I have leo for two days and I can say att the device is lovely,is big but dont take any place when i put them in my jeans pocket,the touch screen is the best one ever,but is some annoyings bugs in them,wait for a uppdate of the rom for to by or try to fix,I wil tell you some of them in my device:
-audio manager crash after 45 sec to play a song with my memory card(sanddisk16gb)
-pink color in album with the camera pictures
-when you take a picture the music stop and you need to go to the player and start again to play the song
-bluetooth sound is like a AM radio and the volume can´t be controlled(SE HBH-IS800)
-dont play the almost video format
-maybe is coming something more in the way
my previous device:Xperia x1 and many many others
Amator72 said:
I heard on two main issues:
1. Pink tint on the pictures (is it fixed yet)?
2. WinMo typical slow downs over time. Lags, etc, even on the Sense UI level. Is it true?
How does it compare to units like HTC Pro for instance in terms of smootheness and lags?
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1. Haven't made many pictures yet but I know I don't have to expect much from the HTC camera's unfortunately. Was the same on the HTC Touch Pro. It's really a shame they don't put better camera modules in their phones but ok... The pink tint IS an issue appearantly and doesn't seem to be fixed yet.
2. Haven't noticed any slowdowns like this... There is the occasional hickup
but they seem to be caused more by a certain application or part of the sense software then by windows mobile.
Compared to the HTC Touch Pro and Omnia Qwerty Pro (B7610) it's fast. I really notice a difference opening apps, going through files, going through settings, etc.
Browsing is a dream, much faster then on the HTC Touch Pro and B7610 as well. It seems my connection is better but also the cpu makes a difference. And then there's the huge screen, REALLY helps a lot.
Same goes for playing videos. Again the screen and cpu make it such a delight. Videos unable to play on the Touch Pro and B7610 play very smoothly on the HD2.
They onscreen keyboard was a problem for me in the beginning, I had a really hard time typing even one word correctly. Now with the firmware update this seems mostly fixed. I still miss keys every now and then (I don't use XT9 correction) but I find typing to be much easier now. Coming from phones with hardware keyboards this was one of the main issues for me, how would it be without a hardware keyboard, but again the screensize makes this very doable.
All in all I'm loving the phone so far...
ivo34 said:
I have leo for two days and I can say att the device is lovely,is big but dont take any place when i put them in my jeans pocket,the touch screen is the best one ever,but is some annoyings bugs in them,wait for a uppdate of the rom for to by or try to fix,I wil tell you some of them in my device:
-audio manager crash after 45 sec to play a song with my memory
card(sanddisk16gb)
-pink color in album with the camera pictures
-when you take a picture the music stop and you need to go to the player and start again to play the song
-bluetooth sound is like a AM radio and the volume can´t be controlled(SE HBH-IS800)
-dont play the almost video format
-maybe is coming something more in the way
my previous device:Xperia x1 and many many others
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About the audioplayer 45 second crash. No problems here, is this always the case for you? I use pocketplayer most of the time though, no problems listening to music 2hrs continuously (in the train).
I heard the audio player also stops/pauses/causes problems when the device goes into sleep mode. Something I had on my HTC pro (and believe samsung) as well. Pocketplayer solves this as well...
Have the SE HBH DS-980 bluetooth headset myself and no problems, heard other complaints about the sound quality (and some fix which I haven't tried yet) so perhaps my standards are very low. Pausing, volume, etc controls are working just fine though...
Also no problems with video (formats) playback, again might be due to pocketplayer because the default media player is kinda limited indeed.
dagrim1 said:
About the audioplayer 45 second crash. No problems here, is this always the case for you? I use pocketplayer most of the time though, no problems listening to music 2hrs continuously (in the train).
I heard the audio player also stops/pauses/causes problems when the device goes into sleep mode. Something I had on my HTC pro (and believe samsung) as well. Pocketplayer solves this as well...
Have the SE HBH DS-980 bluetooth headset myself and no problems, heard other complaints about the sound quality (and some fix which I haven't tried yet) so perhaps my standards are very low. Pausing, volume, etc controls are working just fine though...
Also no problems with video (formats) playback, again might be due to pocketplayer because the default media player is kinda limited indeed.
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I use core player and nitrogen,core player works well,also the volume control,nitrogen works but can not control the volume,,I tested with another bluetooth headsets and is the same, and audio manager is continuous crashing,I did hardreset 2 times,the audio quality I fixed whit this thread below,only use decimal:320 instead 256
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4960404&postcount=119
when will the custom roms be avail? anytime soon? anyone know?
Coming from a SEX1, I find this phone to be a huge sigh of relieve. I love it, it's fast. Reception is extremely good.
Camera might be better IMO, personally I don't experience the pink hue, but when taking pictures and watching them on pc I find they aren't good quality at all.Maybe fiddling around with settings would do the trick, but I'm illiterate when it comes to camera settings.
As I said, I love the phone. Pretty sure, you'll fall in love with it.
Its Awesome
Compared to other WinMo phones I have ha I can tell you that the Leo is awesome. The screen is a real winner, yet the overall size is far more comfotable that the hermes or Kaiser that I had before. The sense interface features are stunning. I am extremely happy with my purchase and waiting for the chefs to start tweaking the ROM...
I've owned the TyTN I, TyTn II, SEX1, Palm Pro, etc and the Leo/HD2 is the best WM device by a large margin. One area people may not have mentioned is the great battery life - the best I have seen in a WM device, especially given the size of the screen and the CPU speed.
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Cutom roms are ready for cooking but the HardSPL needs to be completed yet before they can be flashed to peoples phones and I havent heard much information on that yet.
HTC Herald > HTC TouchPro > Samsung Omnia > HTC HD2 <--- The best of all. Of course has issues as all phones, but its speed and responsiveness blacks them out.
whats faster guys, the HD2 or the TG01, anyone knows? i had the TG01 actually had 2, sold one, and using one for the time being, they are both TG01 and HD2 1ghz, but which one is faster (software wise i guess)
One of the biggests facts making me like the hd2 is the fact is has a capicative screen, so much more responsive, no more getting your stylus of using your fingernail to get things done. Just a very slight touch
Hello-
I was hoping any and all users can giver their 2 cents here. What are the real world limitations of this device? I have done a fair amount of research and this phone seems to fit the bill, but wanted some feedback on it. I know I want an Android based smartphone, and I must stick with AT&T as it's what my company has and it's the ONLY provider in my rural part of Texas.
While the phone has been labeled "mid-spec" it still seems pretty impressive. I also know being tied to AT&T means I'm REALLY limited, and I do not want an iPhone. My wife has one, I've tried it... It completly DIED after 3 months. I know in other posts people have said iPhone still best bang for the buck for AT&T smartphone, but a smartphone that does not work as a phone, doesn't show the net as it really appears, and has updates that seemingly copy Android does not seem too "smart" to me. Yes, iTunes looks pretty, and I could play "Words w/ Friends," but seems like a lot of fluff.
I have found due to hardware Aria cannot run Google Earth, is there anything else it cannot do? I know there is debate about Gingerbread being compatible, but that seems a ways down the road. I'm really torn, as I like the size of this thing: it still looks like a phone and not a flat panel TV, but the car guy side of me thinks "no replacement for displacement" when it comes to a processor.
That would mean getting a Nexus One, but I worry about the trackball popping out like my sister-in-laws Blackberry, and the cost is hard to swallow. The Desire looks AWESOME but if I have read correctly it will not work on 3G for data, only voice, and it is expensive. Then there is the Samsung Captivate which is coming, but it seems HUGE, or does the camera add 10 lbs???. I'd like to limit the physical size to an iphone-esque size at most so it is pocketable. I also have read Samsung can be difficult to work with from a consumer standpoint with respect to updates, etc.
I also like the Sense UI as it seems elegantly simple and worked well while I messed with the phone in the store.
Overall, I want the most bang for the buck phone. A true "dream machine" would be an Aria sized phone, with the Desire specs, that does it all on 3G. What really would be the closest thing to such a device? I'm open to any ideas and suggestions, but again I CANNOT change providers; seriously, AT&T is the ONLY provider with coverage in my area.
Thanks in advance for any and all answers and help!!!
The phone does have some limitations (you have done your homework). If you want a great phone on att, this is a good choice. The galaxy s (coming soon to ATT) may be better if you must have a high end device.
I would say that if you are stuck with AT&T, the Aria may be your phone. I have a had HTC, Samsung, Motorola, and Apple phones and HTC has been the most solid of all of them. I just came from an iPhone and I can honestly say it has better reception, call quality, and adaptability than my 3GS. Phones seem to be almost a matter of taste, some people will deal with the most ridiculous shortcomings if it has a feature they feel is the most important. That being said, I played with a lot of phones and found the Aria to be the best package for a smartphone on AT&T at this moment. That could change as soon as another high end phone hops on but for now, I'm very pleased. I will say this, the battery life takes some getting used to, but its right in the same area and any other smartphone. Also, the speaker phone is quiet but since I never use it, it doesn't even make my list for pros vs cons. Being that it is locked down to certain apps and such is annoying, but coming from an iPhone makes it seem like a walk in the park to get other apps and such on it. I would say read a little more of these forums to see what some complaints are and see if any of them make your list of important features. But otherwise, you have on recommendation here.
Some of the gripes I have with this phone include:
* The screen isn't quite adequate in size for reading ebooks, which I didn't expect I would do at the time of purchase.
* The speaker is pretty crappy. It's not very loud and it sounds irritating at volume - very tinny.
* It doesn't appear to support very many video file formats. In fact, the only format I've gotten to work with Act1 video player are the base h264 and h263 formats. To my understanding, it is up to the manufacturer to include any extra codecs, so you're SOL if you're planning on using this as a mobile media player.
* It doesn't come with live wallpapers or an option to sideload apps. You can enable both of these by rooting the phone (which is a pain in the ass, by the way), but I've found that the processor isn't up to the task of running some of the more complex live wallpapers (like the mario wallpaper). I'm hoping this will be less of a problem with Froyo and the JIT.
* It gets a little warm when you have the gps on in navigation, but not enough to scald your junk if you're keeping it on your lap. It's actually not that big of a deal, just makes me worry about damaging the battery.
* Typing is a bit hard in portrait mode. Some applications seem to crash in landscape mode, like 'better terminal emulator', but I suspect that's more of a problem with the program and not the Aria.
* The camera is a bit mediocre and doesn't include a flash, but to be fair, it's primarily a phone and not a camera (I have yet to see a phone's camera be on par with a midrange point & shoot).
* Sense UI can't be disabled/enabled as an option, like on the Evo 4g.
I was going to test Google Earth for you, but I can't seem to find it in the Market.
Anyway, in summary, it has a few shortcomings, it's a midrange phone after all, but I love it regardless. It's slips into my pocket comfortably and feels solid in the hand. The interface is nice and smooth (unless you have some crazy live wallpaper enabled). It doesn't bog down when you fill the screens with widgets, and the browser experience thus far has been great. All in all, it was definitely worth the $50 I paid for it from Amazon.com.
P.S. I was considering holding out for something higher spec'd to come along on AT&T, but who knows when that will happen? The Dell Aero was supposed to be out months ago. Likewise, we are actually supposed to have 3 HTC phones running Android to choose from right now, and yet we only have the Aria. The Samsung Captivate is supposed to be 'coming in the next few months,' but I've grown to distrust AT&T's timelines. A major part of why I got the Aria was because I was simply tired of waiting for ATT to get their act together.
I went to an AT&T Retail Store here in Corpus Christi, TX to look at it again and see what they could do for me deal wise because I'm mid-cycle in my contract. The Mgr. told me he is suppose to get the "sample" Captivate on Friday, and it's suppose to be on sale the 15th. I guess to go head-to-head with the X??? I'll wait til Friday to see if it true. He claims there is a lot to coming down the pike with Android OS as it's the "next big thing..." (Well, for AT&T I guess....) I've waitd this long, another couple of days won't kill me to see it, and help reduce buyer's remorse...
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I went to an AT&T Retail Store here in Corpus Christi, TX to look at it again and see what they could do for me deal wise because I'm mid-cycle in my contract. The Mgr. told me he is suppose to get the "sample" Captivate on Friday, and it's suppose to be on sale the 15th. I guess to go head-to-head with the X??? I'll wait til Friday to see if it true. He claims there is a lot to coming down the pike with Android OS as it's the "next big thing..." (Well, for AT&T I guess....) I've waitd this long, another couple of days won't kill me to see it, and help reduce buyer's remorse...
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* It doesn't appear to support very many video file formats. In fact, the only format I've gotten to work with Act1 video player are the base h264 and h263 formats. To my understanding, it is up to the manufacturer to include any extra codecs, so you're SOL if you're planning on using this as a mobile media player.
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Not exactly. Do a search on 'Rock Player'. It's a media player that's still in Beta, and it expands upon the selection of video codecs that are handled by the standard media libraries.
It plays DivX-encoded videos like a CHAMP.
EDIT: Actually, here's the forum for it: http://www.diffthink.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4
Regards,
Corporate Dog
* It doesn't appear to support very many video file formats. In fact, the only format I've gotten to work with Act1 video player are the base h264 and h263 formats. To my understanding, it is up to the manufacturer to include any extra codecs, so you're SOL if you're planning on using this as a mobile media player.
I was planning on using it as a media player... So, in simple English for my simple mind, what does this mean: that it can only use those two formats? Does it mean it's limited to what can be seen via the internet or does it mean I'm limited to the type of video formats I could directly load from my computer, or both???? Is there a way around these limitations because I want to be able to have infotainment in one device and do not want to drag around multiple devices. (Sorry if this seems like a dumb question but I am FAR from well versed in this field.)
Also, thanks again for the replies and info.. It is GREATLY appreciated!!!
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Not exactly. Do a search on 'Rock Player'. It's a media player that's still in Beta, and it expands upon the selection of video codecs that are handled by the standard media libraries.
It plays DivX-encoded videos like a CHAMP.
EDIT: Actually, here's the forum for it: http://www.diffthink.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4
Regards,
Corporate Dog
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Thanks, I'll check it out when I get home, don't have any divx files to play here.
lonestarmotorcyclist said:
I was planning on using it as a media player... So, in simple English for my simple mind, what does this mean: that it can only use those two formats? Does it mean it's limited to what can be seen via the internet or does it mean I'm limited to the type of video formats I could directly load from my computer, or both???? Is there a way around these limitations because I want to be able to have infotainment in one device and do not want to drag around multiple devices. (Sorry if this seems like a dumb question but I am FAR from well versed in this field.)
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To my understanding, there isn't any "CorePlayer" equivalent. I dunno if you're coming from a Windows Mobile world or not, but CorePlayer could run pretty much anything your desktop computer could.
What I meant by my comment was that the Aria appears to be limited to the .mp4 format for videos (I have not tested .flv). So, if you wanted to toss some movies onto the sd card and use the stock media player or Act1 video player (appears to be pretty popular in the market), then you're stuck re-encoding all your videos to h264 .mp4. The iPhone is limited in this way too, or so I hear.
But, from what I've seen with RockPlayer just now, it's seems to be very bare on options but looks like it can play a very wide range of formats. I just played some mp4 videos I had on my sd card and they run flawlessly. Hopefully this program is in active development and will turn into Android's CorePlayer.
Thanks for the info and links; you both cleared up the questions I had. I just want to cover every aspect so when my iFamily tells me I made a poor choice I can show them it does EVERYTHING I want it to and more, not what the manufacturer thinks I need it to do or should do...
I just am not seeing where you can go wrong with this thing compared to other devices.....
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I just am not seeing where you can go wrong with this thing compared to other devices.....
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the small size can either be a huge plus or killing minus depending on your habits/needs
for me it s a definate plus
lonestarmotorcyclist said:
Thanks for the info and links; you both cleared up the questions I had. I just want to cover every aspect so when my iFamily tells me I made a poor choice I can show them it does EVERYTHING I want it to and more, not what the manufacturer thinks I need it to do or should do...
I just am not seeing where you can go wrong with this thing compared to other devices.....
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Are buying the phone for yourself or are you replacing iphones for your family?
Corporate Dog said:
Not exactly. Do a search on 'Rock Player'. It's a media player that's still in Beta, and it expands upon the selection of video codecs that are handled by the standard media libraries.
It plays DivX-encoded videos like a CHAMP.
EDIT: Actually, here's the forum for it: http://www.diffthink.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4
Regards,
Corporate Dog
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I've been using rock player on my Aria for a while, and I am hoping this is just cause it is still beta, but SD AVI files run like molasses. If there is more than one thing going on on screen the video lags and gets out of sync with the audio. You have to pause the video, wait for it to catch up and play it again.
This is my only gripe about this phone, but it may be the program, not the phone.
Whatever phone I get will be just for me. My in-laws got their 3Gs' about a yr ago and like most, thought they were the greatest thing sinced bread. So then my wife "needed" one. I've played with it and it is nice to be able to access the web, and have music right there, but.... there seemed something lacking. I like the concept, but I also like to tinker with stuff. I'll admit, I LOVED the Droid ad campaign of "Droid Does" and since my phone has died, I started looking to get something new. It just seems better in everyway I can think of, but I want to know all I can to properly inform those who will tell me I'm wrong when I get my new phone. (And there will be a lot, I know...)
I just don't see how they really can be compared. Everyone I know who has an iPhone loves them, but they use them for the web, Facebook, Words W/ Friends, and as an iPod. I think it's great there are 200K apps, but I don't know anyone that uses more than 1% of them and every "cutting edge feature" seems to be copied from Android. I guess there is also the fact that there are a truckload of docks and cases to "personalize" them, but I think I rather personalize the stuff that matters.
In reality, I want to blow their socks off with what it can do and know it inside and out as soon as I get it. (You know, the ones that were excited about folders and backgrounds on iPhones. Does that make me a bad person??? Or just honest???)
My wife has an Aria, I have a Nexus One. I'm REALLY surprised when I use her phone, it's actually smoother than my Nexus. Long lists scroll like butter, the launcher scrolls extremly smooth, apps list, etc... I've never seen the phone slow down, it's all very smooth.
She doesn't watch videos on it, but she will eventually load her iTunes music onto it, but hasn't yet. She loves the smaller size, but you're right that it is a tad touchier to type on.
She raves about how fast the browser is.. And how everything just opens, bam... And her GCal euphoria moment was pretty awesome too; suddenly she can see my entire calendar, add to my calendar, see when I'm in a meeting until 5...
She's really been looking for something to complain about moving from her iPhone and so far I don't think she's found anything.
Just an update on the video playback capabilities in RockPlayer - I tested it with a 320x240 mpeg, 700x500 divx, 640x480 .mp4 and a 720p mkv video. The mpeg and mp4 ran perfectly fine, the divx ran pretty slow (maybe 10fps) and the sound was constantly desychronizing, and the mkv was unwatchable. It didn't scale down to the Aria screen size, and it ran so slow that you could see the individual frames (like 2-4fps).
Considering the speed difference between the .mp4 and the divx, I'm assuming this is a lack of hardware acceleration issue with some codecs?
Being used to cellphone audio quality (nokia 5800, SE W850) i know they are usually decent, but not more than that. So it didn't occure to me that i should try the player on the SGS i9000.
Today i finally did, to test the supplied earphones.
Hearing that the phone with the mediocre supplied earphones sounds good, i switched to my AKG K317.
HOLY *stuff that shouldn't be written here* THE SOUND QUALITY IS MINDBLOWING.
I don't know what the hell Samsung did here, but it appears that someone did something VERY right here.
Now i have no use for my Creative Zen, which is kind of sad.
If any of you still didn't try it- well, it's about time to.
Agreed, it's amazing.
I'm not sure this suprises me tbh, Samsung know what they are doing in this field, more than a lot of other companies.
Not a big fan of the headset tho. I find it hurts after a while and in the stock music player there is no way to skip the current track. No skip, no fast forward, reverse etc. MixZing can skip tracks, but it's a bit iffy and that's all it can do.
I have yet to find a music player that is as good as the one on my old iPhone. On that phone I could skip, reverse, fast forward, pause, play etc with the headset. And I often used voice control to change playlists and shuffle the songs when I'm out bicycling. Can't do this on this phone right now and that is a problem.
Sound quality on this one isn't bad though.
Got any advice for me?
WiseDuck said:
I have yet to find a music player that is as good as the one on my old iPhone. On that phone I could skip, reverse, fast forward, pause, play etc with the headset. And I often used voice control to change playlists and shuffle the songs when I'm out bicycling. Can't do this on this phone right now and that is a problem.
Sound quality on this one isn't bad though.
Got any advice for me?
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Apparently (there's another thread that talks about that) the Nokia remotes work since it's the same jack layout. I'll have to try that out since controlling the player from the remote is essential.
Totally agree with the OP. Music is awesome on this phone. Beats the HTC HD2 and the iPod. Together with the Sure SE500 and Dolby surround enabled on the Galaxy it is simply amazing.
i agree, but the stock ear phones are funny :/
there's too much treble in it, and bass is low on high.
apart from that its an awesome phone.
When GSMarena reviewed the Galaxy S, they described it as "perfect audio quality":
wwwgsmarena.com/samsung_i9000_galaxy_s-review-478p6.php
Finally a phone that equals or surpasses the iPhones in sound quality.
Better than iphone's music player? LOL. I'll have whatever pot you guys are smoking.
The sound in SGS is shallow, skips beats occasionally, and pauses occasionally, may be due to lags. It is also very lacking in functions and features.
iPhone's music player is miles ahead, if you really have been using both.
1. iPhone music player lets me combine music video and audio into a single playlist. SGS can't.
2. iPhone music player lets me continue to play the sound on video with the option of screen completely shut off, therefore good for listening to music videos without having to look at the picture. SGS can't.
3. iPhone music player lets me pause/play/skip/repeat songs entirely with the volume button, with the music running in both foreground and background and both screen on or off. SGS has an application in the market place to contra music totally with the volume button but the screen must be on, and music player must be the foreground task, so you can control it which surfing the net, for example.
4. iPhone music player has the option of displaying lyric while the music play. I'm not aware of such possibility. I'm talking about stock music player here.
5. iPhone standard headset also let me completely control the music playing (play/pause/skip/previous) with the control on the wire itself. What can the button in SGS's wired headset control? Limited, isn't it?
6. iPhone slider let's you slide either very fast or extremely slow depending on how far away you move your finger from the slider.
7. iPhone music player never ever pause, skip music. SGS does, which is one of the first things I noted and complained about.
8. iPhone music player does not require long media scan each time we reboot the phone. I don't even dare to put in all my 22 GB of musics on my SGS.
There are things i like more in SGS than iPhone, but music player and sound quality aren't among them.
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Better than iphone's music player? LOL. I'll have whatever pot you guys are smoking.
The sound in SGS is shallow, skips beats occasionally, and pauses occasionally, may be due to lags. It is also very lacking in functions and features.
iPhone's music player is miles ahead, if you really have been using both. [....]
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From my experience, it all comes down to the right combination between the music player and the characteristics of the headset. For me the combination between the SGS and the Shure in ear phones is by far the best of all combinations I tried.
what model are you using appelflap?
I am pondering to get myself a sony/sennheiser soon..
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From my experience, it all comes down to the right combination between the music player and the characteristics of the headset. For me the combination between the SGS and the Shure in ear phones is by far the best of all combinations I tried.
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You're right there, appleflap, more expensive headset does make hugh difference, but this works for both if one is willing to spend that much more for expensive headset. Won't help with the skips, pause, long media scanning time when you want the entire collection of music in, and the limited fuctionalities that I mentioned though.
Personally, I much prefer connecting my SGS or iPhone to good external speakers. Wow, the sound depth and richness completely change with that set up. That's what I always do before bed. I miss the ability to just rest my finger on the volume button to completely control the music in iPhone, without ever have to turn on the screen. I don't like sticking anything into my ear while trying to get to sleep, although I have that option.
Correct me if im wrong, but Apple uses a dedicated audio chip for music playing while samsung is just using the A8 CPU for it. This accounts for the crap battery life when playing audio on the Galaxy (barely 10 hours) vs 40 on the iPhone 4 and the better sound quality on the iPhone.
I basically went back to the iPhone because of this. For a phone that's touted as a multimedia powerhouse, not having a dedicated audio chip seems absurd to me. I work for 10 hours a day and I like to listen to music the whole time, with the Galaxy I'd go back home with 30% battery and only if I hadn't used the phone for anything else. With the iPhone I can play music all day and be back home with more than 75% battery.
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Correct me if im wrong, but Apple uses a dedicated audio chip for music playing while samsung is just using the A8 CPU for it. This accounts for the crap battery life when playing audio on the Galaxy (barely 10 hours) vs 40 on the iPhone 4 and the better sound quality on the iPhone.
I basically went back to the iPhone because of this. For a phone that's touted as a multimedia powerhouse, not having a dedicated audio chip seems absurd to me. I work for 10 hours a day and I like to listen to music the whole time, with the Galaxy I'd go back home with 30% battery and only if I hadn't used the phone for anything else. With the iPhone I can play music all day and be back home with more than 75% battery.
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You can always buy a spare battery. Or better yet, buy 10 ( ebay sells them for 5$ the piece) and you can listen for 10 days to music.
iPhone can't do that that's why I even didn't consider the iPhone (kidding)
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You can always buy a spare battery. Or better yet, buy 10 ( ebay sells them for 5$ the piece) and you can listen for 10 days to music.
iPhone can't do that that's why I even didn't consider the iPhone (kidding)
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Those battery are useless. I've tried them. It's cheaper to buy the genuine one although they cost 20 times more. It turns out cheaper.
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You're right there, appleflap, more expensive headset does make hugh difference, but this works for both if one is willing to spend that much more for expensive headset. Won't help with the skips, pause, long media scanning time when you want the entire collection of music in, and the limited fuctionalities that I mentioned though.
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Yeah, I read that. I personally haven't any problems with it. I have had never any skip or pause. And as for the media scanning: I was pretty amazed about the speed actually. In contrast to my HD2 it is blazing fast. Scanning 14 Gb of audio files in just a few seconds is pretty amazing.
Maybe there are some problems with your SD card?
Personally, I much prefer connecting my SGS or iPhone to good external speakers. Wow, the sound depth and richness completely change with that set up. That's what I always do before bed. I miss the ability to just rest my finger on the volume button to completely control the music in iPhone, without ever have to turn on the screen. I don't like sticking anything into my ear while trying to get to sleep, although I have that option.
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Haven't tried that set up. I use a iPod for an external speaker set up
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Those battery are useless. I've tried them. It's cheaper to buy the genuine one although they cost 20 times more. It turns out cheaper.
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I just ordered 2 with a charger. I know they won't last as long as the original ones, but as spare batteries I expect they will do there job. (For my HD2 I also had those cheap ebay batteries and I was very satisfied with it)
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I just ordered 2 with a charger. I know they won't last as long as the original ones, but as spare batteries I expect they will do there job. (For my HD2 I also had those cheap ebay batteries and I was very satisfied with it)
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I ordered two of those before. I gave a 5 star rating to them when I first got them. However, very very quickly the live shorten, and within a couple of months became useless. Now they no longer charge.
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I ordered two of those before. I gave a 5 star rating to them when I first got them. However, very very quickly the live shorten, and within a couple of months became useless. Now they no longer charge.
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for $5 a piece I can live with that (in fact i didn't expect more)