Questions from a potential wizard owner - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

I really like the wizard (cingular 8125) and am planning to get it but I have too questions about the product.
Is the wizard capable of smooth vidoe playback? I don't mind re-encoding to 320X240 using whichever format works the best. Needed for my long international flights. I don't want to buy an iPod video as that would be an extra item that I have to carry around halfway across the world.
Can windows mobile compatible games such as age of empires be played on the wizard? Again for those long flights.
Thanks is advance,
Smit

Yes and Yes
If you want decent video running you'll need to overclock (see Overclocking thread)

Does overclocking reduce the processor life as I plan to use it for atleast 2-4 years. I know this is true for desktop processor but don't know much abt pocket pc processors. Battery life is not a big concern as I plan to buy an additional battery anyway.
Thanks,
Smit

You don't need to overclock the Wizard if you're re-encoding video specifically for it. If you're watching high bitrate media that you encoded for your PC then yes, overclocking will help you view that kind of media but video that's specifically encoded at QVGA with a medium bitrate should work fine at the default clock speed.
I personally however keep my Wizard overclocked for other reasons, and yes the battery does drain quicker. It's a logical assumption that overclocking the Wizard will decrease the processor's lifetime but it's anyone's guess by how long. (Does anyone even know how long the Wizard's processor will last for under specifications?) However, since these processors are designed to run in ultra-low power modes with no active cooling, and low heat emissions, it would be purely my EDUCATED GUESS that the difference in life expectancy is negligible.

No one knows the awnser to that question, so far we have had very few reports of any problem with overclocking. Personally i overclock but plan only to keep my phone a year(I change it yearly) ,i would not be happy to overclock it longer than this because in theory it must shorten the life of some cpu's. However you can get perfectly good video at normal cpu speeds using xvid or divx at 320 x 240 res at 20 fps - at this it wont drop any frames. As for games most work fine but the really graphics intensive will be slow. If you can wait the htc hermes comes out soon which is very like the wizard but has a samsung 300 mhz processor which people say is equiv to intel 400 Mhz processor. Choice is yours - most users on the forum are very pleased with their wizard and i would consider replacing my wizard with a new one in six months time.

Does anyone know how windows mobile games such as pocket age of empires (big fan of it since it was initially released during pentium II days) runs on the wizard. I was considering Hermes but I don't really need the 3G capabilities and I am quite sure it is going to be a lot more expensive than the Wizard. I don't even thnk it will be offered in the US by the carriers as they don't seem to have wide UMTS coverage nor will they have one in the near future.
Thanks,
Smit

I'll try that game for you - interested myself how the game is and how it runs. Keep you posted.

Age of empires runs just great even with the phone not overclocked - was in demo mode though don't know if there are any more qraphics intensive parts of the game. Looks addictive though, a bit like spb airislands which i have and that is good. Q can it be completed without too much killing, i am not into meaningless killing - might consider buying the game.

Thanks for trying Age of Empires. Yes it is a very addictive game and you could easily spend hours. You could get by without killing a lot of people but this requires skill. Anyway I am looking forward to my new Cingular 8125.
Thanks,
Smit

I had this game running on my orginal xda without any problems so the wizard should fly it

What do you guys think of the eten M600 vs. the Wizard.
The M600 has a much faster processor (even beats Jasjar) but no edge and keyboard which also makes it slimmer than the Wizard.

a queston about another phone, in the wizard section, in a thread asking about the wizard... RANDOM

bsmit007 said:
I really like the wizard (cingular 8125) and am planning to get it but I have too questions about the product.
Is the wizard capable of smooth vidoe playback? I don't mind re-encoding to 320X240 using whichever format works the best. Needed for my long international flights. I don't want to buy an iPod video as that would be an extra item that I have to carry around halfway across the world.
Can windows mobile compatible games such as age of empires be played on the wizard? Again for those long flights.
Thanks is advance,
Smit
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i actually downsample all my vids using pocket divx encoder to 320x240, and i use TCPMP to play stuff. works fantastic, and i get comments from people all the time about how good the video looks. size is nice too. i can fit ~4 full-length feature films on my 1gig card, and have some space left over.
i did notice recently that i had to overclock for perfectly smooth playback of compressed video while using a2dp streaming, but hey, that's to be expected.
fantastic device. gives me a chubby every time i touch it.
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Me too, but I would highly advise against having sex with your HTC Wizard. I believe it voids your warranty

great so it looks like ill have to oc when my wizard arrives.
by any chance are there any higher capacity batteries for this phone out??

Hello all! Great, very helpful site!!! Fantastic!
I, too, am looking into getting an 8125 through Cingular and after reading through this thread I had a couple of questions:
1) If anyone is familiar with it, and if I had a 2Gb mini sd, could I play the original Unreal Tournament on the 8125?
2) I have quite a few tv shows on my HD (xvid). How would I go about changing them to 320x240 res?
Any help is appreciated!
Matt

matt0525 said:
2) I have quite a few tv shows on my HD (xvid). How would I go about changing them to 320x240 res?
Any help is appreciated!
Matt
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I use PocketDivxEncoder - http://divx.ppccool.com/
Free, & easy to use.

Tezcatlipoca said:
I use PocketDivxEncoder - http://divx.ppccool.com/
Free, & easy to use.
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Thanks a lot!! You rock!!!!

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Overclocking the wizard?

Hello,
Since more and more ppl get their wizard i was wondering.. :roll:
Has anyone tried overclocking it already?
Im not really sure if the available programs support this omap processor, but still curious
So anyone tried that on here?
well, pocket hack master is a no-go for this
I asked this very question over at the antontomov.com support forums... got no reply... guess it is either not ready yet or not on the horizon at the moment... shame that guy does not reply to his own support forum.... bla
How do you guys find the speed generally? Can it play films etc ok in BetaPlayer?
V
vijay555 said:
How do you guys find the speed generally? Can it play films etc ok in BetaPlayer?
V
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Yes, you can
Just don't go crazy and use proper resolution - 320x240 and will work like a charm
Like a charm...
I find it very limit and I could use a bit of overclocking.
Still no news of a software capable of that?
OMAP 850 processor will become popular, I think it is also used in SPV C600.
It could be a good move to start understanding the overclocking abilities of this processor if it has any?
Generally the Wizard feels as quick as the Magician.
Betaplayer doesn't play back quite as well (high bitrate bigger than the screen) but I think that this is because the Wizard doesn't have the XScale options.
Yeah, I think the XScale has some kind of extensions that would help media playback. Not positive, but I think I read it somewhere.
It definitely does. There is an extra menu option in BetaPlayer for the Magician that can be checked to use the Xscale.
I checked all the settings back to back to see if the slightly better performance was down to different settings and that's when I found it.
Video is important to me but for the very slight difference in larger than screen size videos, I'd much rather have the better battery life, keyboard, persistant storage and one handed operation of WM5.

To anyone who has a M600/JAMin/Dopod....

Ive had my XDA2 for a few years now and finally the size is starting to get on my nerves. Im considering replacing it with a JAMin or equivalent but im worried that the CPU wont be able to keep up with Tomtom5 and Media player running at the same time when im driving. And of course if its worth the cost just to get something thats smaller? Anyone have any thoughts?
Thanks
Andy
To sort out any performance issues go to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53084
What starts out as an idea in the thread soon becomes reality as the challenge was taken up. If you use the patch in this thread then you should be fine.
I don't have TT5 myself but a couple of guys in my office do and they are happy bunnies even without overclocking.
andmjones said:
Ive had my XDA2 for a few years now and finally the size is starting to get on my nerves. Im considering replacing it with a JAMin or equivalent but im worried that the CPU wont be able to keep up with Tomtom5 and Media player running at the same time when im driving. And of course if its worth the cost just to get something thats smaller? Anyone have any thoughts?
Thanks
Andy
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It will RUN, but the music experience would be appaling as you will hear gaps and skips, escpecially when driving with Bt GPS ON. I'd suggest u buy O2 XDA Atom aka hp rw6800 in your case. It lacks the quality one-hand contol of Prophet due to 2-buttons-less design, but at least it SHOULD(check this first and dont blame me anyway) provide enough performance for the tasks you seek to run as well as it could be overclocked too. Good luck!
TheBrit said:
What starts out as an idea in the thread soon becomes reality as the challenge was taken up. If you use the patch in this thread then you should be fine.
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Which patch?
imo.
Please dont think of buying Prophet, you will get disappoint at its low CPU speed.
I just sold my Dopod 818pro and use my dad's old blueAngle. I found out, blueangle has much faster start windows time( maybe wm5 takes more CPU to start with)
But when I run the Tomtom 5, I found out blueangle is much faster then Prophet ( at least 4 times faster ).
If I were you, I will wait for new TytYN(Hermes), but I dont think Tytyn will be much faster than blueangle or anyother device using around 400 mhz CPU.
I will not buying pocketpc in this year unless HTC boosts the CPU clock and the camera(> 320 mp), at the same time, you can see the GSM phones have much nicer looking and camera.
There r many other chooices, why ppc at this moment?
The HTC Prophet is not a high performance machine, but it runs major tasks well, and TomTom and Media Player concurrently are no problem on my non-overclocked Dopod version. From the German forums we have learnt that there seem to be major performance differences between the different brands that offer the Prophet, and it seems this is mainly due to the use and configuration of ext. ROM programs and settings. So I assume that the ODMs like JAM, Qtek etc. are to blame for the differences between technically identical machines. How else could one explain that TomTom starts within 15 secs after reboot on my machine, but in 60 secs on others. And BTW, Vodafone now sells the Prophet too, from Dopod who is a HTC subsidiary now.
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TheBrit said:
What starts out as an idea in the thread soon becomes reality as the challenge was taken up. If you use the patch in this thread then you should be fine.
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Which patch?
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Patch is probably not the right word.
The guy in the thread wrote a small app to monitor OMAP CPU load and call OMAPCLOCK to adjust the speed depending on what the load is.
If you are running a heavy app, the CPU cranks up, if not, it falls back to prolong the battery.
Edit: I've tried it and it works but as it's still beta - use at own risk.

Athena vs. UMPC

By way of encouraging discussion -- The HTC X7500/7501 is the closest current HTC product to the emerging class of computers being dubbed UMPC (ultra-mobile PC) that seems to be catching fire. Of course the appeal of the UMPC is its reliance on currently popular PC OS -- WinXP or Vista, as well as its small size (most have screen sizes between 4.5 and 8 in). The Athena's 5 in VGA screen, relatively powerful cpu, 8GB HDD, and form factor with the easy-to-use keyboard makes it very close IMHO to the appealing features of the UMPC's, although it's not officially classified as such because it uses the WinMobile OS rather than XP or Vista. I'm personally torn between my x7500 (with WM6) and one of these UMPC -- have tried the Sony Vaio UX390N but sold it because I found its limitations (unreadable screen, reliance on mouse vs. touchscreen, slow processing with vista) too great. But there are a number of newer UMPC versions coming out that seem worth trying (but who can afford them?).... the OQO Model 02 is only slightly larger than the Athena but offers Vista (at twice the Athena price).... the Raon Everun due out shortly is also only slightly larger than the Athena but not as powerful as the OQO but seems like a "hot" seller.
As a longtime proponent of pocketpc/pdaphones and similar pocketable devices, I'm intrigued -- what thoughts do others in this forum have regarding the emerging UMPC compared to our Athena/Advantage devices?
brucewilsonpa said:
By way of encouraging discussion -- The HTC X7500/7501 is the closest current HTC product to the emerging class of computers being dubbed UMPC (ultra-mobile PC) that seems to be catching fire. Of course the appeal of the UMPC is its reliance on currently popular PC OS -- WinXP or Vista, as well as its small size (most have screen sizes between 4.5 and 8 in). The Athena's 5 in VGA screen, relatively powerful cpu, 8GB HDD, and form factor with the easy-to-use keyboard makes it very close IMHO to the appealing features of the UMPC's, although it's not officially classified as such because it uses the WinMobile OS rather than XP or Vista. I'm personally torn between my x7500 (with WM6) and one of these UMPC -- have tried the Sony Vaio UX390N but sold it because I found its limitations (unreadable screen, reliance on mouse vs. touchscreen, slow processing with vista) too great. But there are a number of newer UMPC versions coming out that seem worth trying (but who can afford them?).... the OQO Model 02 is only slightly larger than the Athena but offers Vista (at twice the Athena price).... the Raon Everun due out shortly is also only slightly larger than the Athena but not as powerful as the OQO but seems like a "hot" seller.
As a longtime proponent of pocketpc/pdaphones and similar pocketable devices, I'm intrigued -- what thoughts do others in this forum have regarding the emerging UMPC compared to our Athena/Advantage devices?
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Battery life is what separates the men (athena) from the boys (umpc). Even the ulv editions don't have that much staying power I have tried the Sony umpc TZ...., and now have the Stylistic ST5112 (not real umpc cos of larger screen) which claims 10hrs battery life, but not really getting that much.
personally i like zippy performance...
and the thing with vista is... with a 1.2ghz chip as these current umpcs are offerning these days...
i dont feel its well worth it for laggy performance...
and it really depends on what your use for the said device is.. ?
is it going to be primarily a workhorse type eqiupment ?
or is it going to be a simple phone that is powerful ?
i prefer to go for something like an athena... for quick work on the go...
but if im going to be doing any REAL work that requires a computer as in web design / various other apps ... i dont see myself successfully utilizing a umpc...
i prefer the large displays at home for webdesign and coding etc.
and there are many of small notebooks you can buy these days for a good price ... in the range of something like 10" notebooks
this is no bigger than a 8.5 x 11 notebook great for note takign etc.
i was thinking of getting one for college work...
boinger66 said:
personally i like zippy performance...
and it really depends on what your use for the said device is.. ?
is it going to be primarily a workhorse type eqiupment ?
or is it going to be a simple phone that is powerful ? ...
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I think this is the key point -- and one which is acknowledged by some of those doing reviews of UMPC -- right now the UMPC's available, while pretty cool in lots of ways, still have a lot of limitations so they can't even match what our WinMobile devices can do. OTOH.... I keep asking myself if I really use all that power of my "primary" computer (core2duo laptop with lots of cpu power, ram and large HDD)..... maybe my challenge is to decide just what I really need??????
I am curious. Has anyone used the Advantage to drive a PPT presentation on a projector? How limited is P-PPT?
That would really drive my behaviour.
jab said:
I am curious. Has anyone used the Advantage to drive a PPT presentation on a projector? How limited is P-PPT?
That would really drive my behaviour.
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I use PocketSlides from Conduits. http://www.conduits.com/products/slides/
While you do have to go through a "convert" step, I have found that it faithfully reproduces all features and layout, including most animations. Also allows editing on PPC, which for me is the downside to PocketPPT and why I have never given it a try.
I have projected presentations and videos with no problems using the VGA cable. (Other than troubles finding a video player that handles MPEG-2, which 90% of my stuff is encoded in.)
wgary said:
I use PocketSlides from Conduits. http://www.conduits.com/products/slides/
While you do have to go through a "convert" step, I have found that it faithfully reproduces all features and layout, including most animations. Also allows editing on PPC, which for me is the downside to PocketPPT and why I have never given it a try.
I have projected presentations and videos with no problems using the VGA cable. (Other than troubles finding a video player that handles MPEG-2, which 90% of my stuff is encoded in.)
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have you tried TCPMP ?
I personally think it boils down to cpu, I would love to have the ameo running vista, xp, but it would take ages to do anything. I was looking at umpc's today, "was really looking for a bluetooth mouse, no joy as usuall, thanks pcworld." and thinking, nice, but the cpu isnt that much better than my ameo, plus running vista, which is cpu hungry, I just think no, I would like one, but since I got my ameo I don't turn on my pc as much, unless im video converting or doing somthing, which a umpc would be to slow. dual core and a 64 bit operating system, I like speed.
with wm6, or 5, I can do pretty much what I need to do. and lets face it I can remote desk top if I really wanted to do somthing else while I was killing time at work.
its a nice idea, but I think after contiplating one for this lenght of time, I think WM6 is enough for what your average Joe does with it. Be it presentations, excell in my case or sending emails.
Anyway, thats my drunken opinion, and im off to bed.
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have you tried TCPMP ?
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honestly, I tried it once a while back and it really gummed things up. I do use CorePlayer, but no mpeg-2 support yet. guess I need to give tcpmp another go...
wgary said:
honestly, I tried it once a while back and it really gummed things up. I do use CorePlayer, but no mpeg-2 support yet. guess I need to give tcpmp another go...
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download the tcpmp file that mackaby posted it has all the codecs in it
boinger66 said:
download the tcpmp file that mackaby posted it has all the codecs in it
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Does it have WMA support? I could not play a film with that format on tcpmp
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Does it have WMA support? I could not play a film with that format on tcpmp
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i didnt know there were wma films...
i thought it was windows media audio .. implying audio only ?
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i didnt know there were wma films...
i thought it was windows media audio .. implying audio only ?
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WMV, sorry. My question still hold
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WMV, sorry. My question still hold
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Yes it has support, but is very poor. Corecodec are aware of this and will improve on the new Coreplayer over time, but for now, the best solution for WMV is to stick to WMP.
Personally, I detest playing vids in WMV.
jab said:
I am curious. Has anyone used the Advantage to drive a PPT presentation on a projector? How limited is P-PPT?
That would really drive my behaviour.
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It works fine, I have just loaded a 20MB PPS file to the Hard Drive in the Ameo and it runs great via the 4in1 output cable to the projector, no video embeded, just text and photos, not quite as fast as the laptop but it certainly works well - the time lag is only apparant on certain slides with a number of pictures embeded in them - Mike
so talk about getting off topic...
but anyways to get back on...
i am actually considering the htc shift... but it will really depend on its price point... as i find it would be good for me to use at school... ofcourse the athena would still be my main device

Help! Video playback jerky- is there any fix?

I might be in the wrong forum, I'm not hugely experienced- but I have a problem with my Advantage, and it is not easy to find forums about it.
I've got the X7500- and now I want to show small avi clips on my Advantage- wma files are really jerky and when I put the original avi clips in- they were better, but not smooth. Is there any work around? I am loading them into the micro-drive, since I don't have much in there- but I only have the WMplayer. Is there a better one?
This is a little bragging tool for me - the clips are not long- (I can't bore my viewers!) I don't want to watch a movie or anything... just show the progress of my young horse, and also of me actually on him. so the action is fairly quick.
I am a work-in-progress, expertise-wise... what I get interested in using- I spend the time to learn (usually has to be dead of night- Not much other time left after riding 2 horses in the day!.)
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Hi and welcome, I would try "TCPMP" found here "http://www.freewareppc.com/multimedia/tcpmp.shtml"
I use it and it works great. You may need to read the Help Me file after installing it. Good Luck...TJ
Thank you for the welcome! I downloaded and installed the coreplayer- and figured out the adding to playlist and file assoc. Once I did that- it got rid of the WMplayer assoc. thankfully!
I had come across mention of "TCPMP" in my reading, but didn't know enough about it.
I am running WM6 and it had asked for WM5 so I didn't know if it was compatible. Since it runs- I guess it is!
Thank you for your help and quick reply.
Barb
NP if I can help out I will since I have been helped out by so many in this forum. Good luck and enjoy...TJ
TCPMP is a free version which was later added with some lice looking skin and sold as coreplayer!
Believe me, TCPMP(free) plays video better than CorePlayer(commercial)!
Because of the fact that some codes used in TCPMP have no legal issues since its distributed free but Core cannot have them!
Regards,
Carty..
I have purchased coreplayer 1.21 and have been happily surprised by the improvements over TCPMP, including the youtube built in. Absolutely great for showing 'Achmed the dead terrorist' to my mates at work.
What I found to improve things, even when using TCPMP 0.72 was to encode the fils to the proper size.
Now there have been endless discussions in these forums about the best codecs to use, and the best resolutions and such, and everyone seemed to have a different result. seems each athena is slightly different. All i can say is that by using a program called handbrake at the recommendation of someone here, and setting the resolution to 640 by whatever, the video bit rate to somewhere between 600 and 750 kbps depending on the length of the film (I try to keep all films to around 512mb) and the audio bitrate to 128mb mp3, i get superb quality playback, to the envy of all my mates who have other older and newer HTC devices and other PPC's.
Best recommendation is to trawl through the pages and pages of video encoding threads here in the athena forum and try them all. Find which one is best for you and gets the quality you want and stick with that method.
oh yeah, and Windows media player is just simply terrible for video. never use it if you can possibly help it!
Thanks for that explanation! TCPMP loads in and shows up as Coreplayer, but it very plain. but since I don't need fancy- just something that works nicely- it is great. Once I figured out where to customize settings I was good to go! I've had PPcs for 8 years now, and the Advantage I love. worth every penny! and I still haven't activated the phone (only one carrier in Canada- and I don't like them!)
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I have purchased coreplayer 1.21 and have been happily surprised by the improvements over TCPMP, including the youtube built in. Absolutely great for showing 'Achmed the dead terrorist' to my mates at work.
What I found to improve things, even when using TCPMP 0.72 was to encode the fils to the proper size.
Now there have been endless discussions in these forums about the best codecs to use, and the best resolutions and such, and everyone seemed to have a different result. seems each athena is slightly different. All i can say is that by using a program called handbrake at the recommendation of someone here, and setting the resolution to 640 by whatever, the video bit rate to somewhere between 600 and 750 kbps depending on the length of the film (I try to keep all films to around 512mb) and the audio bitrate to 128mb mp3, i get superb quality playback, to the envy of all my mates who have other older and newer HTC devices and other PPC's.
Best recommendation is to trawl through the pages and pages of video encoding threads here in the athena forum and try them all. Find which one is best for you and gets the quality you want and stick with that method.
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Ok, Now you've lost me a little.... there is a program " Handbrake" ? where do you get it and will it customize TCPMP or do you customize the .avi file before you put it in? I'm wanting to load self-videos taken with a canon s1 IS which come out as avi's. I haven't found great success in authoring them with wmv- which is all I've got right now- the advantage of the single original file is quickness- take it.. download it and upload the single clip.
And I've found that WMplayer is terrible! just couldn't get rid of it before the TCPMP.

Browsing experience....

My biggest concern, having followed the video performance thread here, is with the Opera experience. I've been using Opera 9.5 on my trusty Loox N560 (with a WM6 ROM) for a while.
The results on the VGA of this 4(+?) year old device are passable but the lag between a page loading and the screen rendering is quite painful as the page resolves from a series of grey boxes over about 10 seconds.
I want to present web work to clients on the HD and if the Opera experience still suffers like this it could be a problem for me.
Anyone with device in hand care to comment.
Many thanks!
There is still a lag on some large webpages with the grey squares. This does like i said depend on the size of the webpage and also the speed of your connection.
However i find the browsing experience a real treat on the HD.
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My biggest concern, having followed the video performance thread here, is with the Opera experience. I've been using Opera 9.5 on my trusty Loox N560 (with a WM6 ROM) for a while.
The results on the VGA of this 4(+?) year old device are passable but the lag between a page loading and the screen rendering is quite painful as the page resolves from a series of grey boxes over about 10 seconds.
I want to present web work to clients on the HD and if the Opera experience still suffers like this it could be a problem for me.
Anyone with device in hand care to comment.
Many thanks!
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Sorry, can't answer your request but:-
Ahhh the Loox N560.... what a lovely machine.
If you used to frequent FirstLoox you would have known my Father, he was one of the Mods.
Beards
Ahh - yes - beautiful 3.5 inch 640x480 screen, 624Mhz xscale processor, 193MB on board with wifi, BT & GPS. And a 3.5mm jack.
No phone of course, but the specs don't look bad even today. Which is why I've kept it going for so long.
Until the HD - which I thought was the answer to my dreams.
However, yet again it seems HTC have gone and shot a beautiful concept in the foot - I can't believe the video driver is an issue again - time to revive that class action suit?
If it's anywhere as bad as my polaris it's a deal breaker for me.
It's certianly a little laggy, especially with complex or rich websites. No deal breaker as long as you set your expectations.
Remember the HD has a bigger res and a slower CPU than your current phone.
A slower processor than a 3 year old PDA? That's not so great now is it...
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A slower processor than a 3 year old PDA? That's not so great now is it...
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I've still got my Pocket Loox 720 (over 3yrs old) and it still works like a dream.
520 MHz CPU
VGA 640 x 480 pixel resolution
Both CF & SC card slots
3.5" speaker
Wifi
Bluetooth
Surfstar III Compactflash GPS
Excellent for playing movies (especially over my home network in the garden).
These older machines can still fly along and play games like Virtual Pool without even a stutter.
The only thing missing from it is being a phone.
Beards
I guess I should manage my expectations for the HD then. I was expecting it to fly compared to my old loox.
What happened - processors are still roughly on the Moore's Law curve right - so why is HTC going backwards?
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I guess I should manage my expectations for the HD then. I was expecting it to fly compared to my old loox.
What happened - processors are still roughly on the Moore's Law curve right - so why is HTC going backwards?
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Because HTC is using Qualcomm, and your old device has Intel. Qualcomm is newer and more advanced in that it has more things onboard, while with Intel you have to have a few more separate chips. This (and probably some good deal HTC got) should explain why HTC didn't opt for the faster (and less energy consuming) Intel platform, I guess.

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