My old phone came with a handy converter which allowed me convert one unit to another kind. Is there any free application for the X1/WinMO that allows me to do this? (Any other websites that have free WinMO applications which can be used for the X1?)
Oh and...just wondering, if I patch using the patches in the forum, it won't void the warranty right?
Any Java converter should work.
And yes, installing other ROM will void the warranty, unless yo do not install back the original one when sending back to Dealer.
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hi... i`m new here... i have a question...
if i flash or unlock to be available to all networks an Orange SPV M700 i`ll lost my warranty from it?
I'm not a lawyer or anything but I'm pretty sure that you void your warranty flashing your device, provided that you're not a certified support representative. Also you risk turning your device into an expensive brick.
My 2 cents....
laudanum
laudanum said:
Also you risk turning your device into an expensive brick.
laudanum
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While it's important for anyone to realise that not correctly flashing a phone can brick it and flashing with a bad ROM can do the same I'm sure many agree with me that there is no point scaremongering, either.
I have surely invalidated my warranty by flashing my phone and SIM unlocking it. Currently I flash a new ROM every week or so, to test and report problems with WM6 ROMS to encourage and help development.
Must have flashed my Trinity 30 times.
It is far from an expensive brick...still
If you're curious enough, you'll just hope that go ahead and flash. If you're going to go down the SIM unlock - I would recommend using this first: http://server2.dimonvideo.ru/uploads/public/users/lvsw/Trinity/HardSPL/Hard-SPL.zip
this is "Hard-SPL" and will enable you to use hardward buttons to go into bootloader and reload a ROM even if an upgrade fails - thereby rendering your phone virtually "unbrickable".
Great advice. But I don't think he was trying to scare anyone, just warn them. Friendly warnings are ALWAYS helpful.
Also, an important item to note, another benefit of using HardSPL is you can get your phone back to "spec" if you need to send it in for warranty repair. So warranty woes are all but gone.
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While it's important for anyone to realise that not correctly flashing a phone can brick it and flashing with a bad ROM can do the same I'm sure many agree with me that there is no point scaremongering, either.
I have surely invalidated my warranty by flashing my phone and SIM unlocking it. Currently I flash a new ROM every week or so, to test and report problems with WM6 ROMS to encourage and help development.
Must have flashed my Trinity 30 times.
It is far from an expensive brick...still
If you're curious enough, you'll just hope that go ahead and flash. If you're going to go down the SIM unlock - I would recommend using this first: http://server2.dimonvideo.ru/uploads/public/users/lvsw/Trinity/HardSPL/Hard-SPL.zip
this is "Hard-SPL" and will enable you to use hardward buttons to go into bootloader and reload a ROM even if an upgrade fails - thereby rendering your phone virtually "unbrickable".
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ok..thanks for advices
but if i go to unlock my sim to a certified support ? i`ll lost my warranty ?
If you just want a SIM unlock, and are willing to pay for that, it won't invalidate the warranty. The best tool for that is IMEICheck which costs £20 and includes full CID unlocking for when you want to update the ROM to a non-OEM version.
Flashing with a new Radio or OS ROM will invalidate. Some of the 'free' unlock tools work by flashing the radio ROM, thereby invalidating the warranty in the process.
ok tnx guyz i understand tnx again for help
HI,
I keep reading questions about ROM and flashing the phone, can someone explain what ROM is and flashing the phone please? I have tried search on this forum and get no answers. I have googled ROM and it tells me that it is a permanent storage chip, but if that's the case how come there are upgrades and why do people talk about erasing them?
Also, I've read that in the UK only ROM upgrades supplied by the service provider are allowed without invalidating warranty. If that's the case does this mean that you can't fiddle/tweak the phone without losing the warranty, or is there still plenty of tweaking you can do?
Finally, with UK phones can you still use apps and cabs from sites like this or would that invalidate warranty as well?
Cheers
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Technically a ROM chip is just that- a Read Only Memory chip that holds fixed information.
In Windows Mobile (and general phone) terms, the ROM has come to mean the software (or firmware) that is loaded into the ROM chip. So, for the HD2, if you look in Device Information you will see a ROM version. For release this was 1.43, but HTC have since released V1.48 and there are some engineering samples of V1.61 around as well.
Flashing the phone means the process of installing a new ROM image into the ROM chip. Official versions are executed using a ROM Update Utility (RUU) while the phone is connected to the PC, but 'cooked' versions are more often executed from the memory card.
In general, you can only update the ROM with one designed for that phone unless you make some changes to the BIOS, which involves installing a sub-program called Hard SPL. Once that is installed, you can then update the phone with any compatible ROM. Currently there is no Hard SPL available for the HD2, but the specialists are working on it
In the meantime there is a workaround to allow the loading of official ROM images from other locales or operators, but again this needs some specific changes being made to the memory card from which it is loaded.
The warranty situation is far from clear. Technically you should only update a device with a ROM image supplied by the operator, or by HTC if it was bought SIM free; however, the HD2 has been supplied pretty much the same as SIM free models by Vodafone and O2. Vodafone contradict themselves in their advice- one paragraph says you can install an 'official' update, but another paragraph says you can't.
Installing cooked ROMs (when they become available) would definitely invalidate any warranty.
snerkler said:
HI,
I keep reading questions about ROM and flashing the phone, can someone explain what ROM is and flashing the phone please? I have tried search on this forum and get no answers. I have googled ROM and it tells me that it is a permanent storage chip, but if that's the case how come there are upgrades and why do people talk about erasing them?
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Think of the ROM as the operating system of the phone. Both the software itself and the memory chips it is stored on are called ROM, but when you see people discussing ROMs here they will generally mean the software. So the software ROM (ie operating system) is stored on the phones ROM (ie Read Only Memory). It's called read only, but it's not - it can be erased and a new software ROM flashed to it.
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Also, I've read that in the UK only ROM upgrades supplied by the service provider are allowed without invalidating warranty. If that's the case does this mean that you can't fiddle/tweak the phone without losing the warranty, or is there still plenty of tweaking you can do?
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If you bought your phone from a service provider, they will have locked the ability to upgrade the ROM, to ensure that you can only install official upgrades issued by them. This is why many people are waiting for Hard SPL to be completed, as it removes this lock. However, you can tweak your phone and and install as much software as you want without affecting your warranty.
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Finally, with UK phones can you still use apps and cabs from sites like this or would that invalidate warranty as well?
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You can install all the apps and cabs you like without affecting your warranty. A simple hard reset will always return the phone to its 'fresh out of the box' state.
Installing HardSPL and custom roms will invalidate your warranty, but tweaks and cab files won't.
edit - Neil, you beat me to it
My previous phone, an O2 Xda Orbit 2 had a custom ROM and was twice repaired under warranty without problem or question from O2, although both these were hardware related problems.
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My previous phone, an O2 Xda Orbit 2 had a custom ROM and was twice repaired under warranty without problem or question from O2, although both these were hardware related problems.
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I guess you were lucky - many people have had their warranty voided by HTC and/or a telco for having custom firmware installed.
Many thanks for the advice, very helpful
So I'm new here - and generally new to phone hacking. Done some similar stuff, just not ont phones.
A few simple questions:
Is downloading a copy of WM from upload site X legal? (not that I care, just purely wondering what the companies think)
If I reinstall the firmware, then late an unrelated hardware problem pops up, is my warranty still void? Can I back up my ROM for later restoring?
Do I lose everything when installing a new ROM? (text messages, contacts, etc.)
What is the most up-to-date rim package for the 910c? There are lots of the same version, but I dont know where to start.
I was also goign to ask for a good offline GPS software -- but I'll search the forum first.
Any cool stuff I should know?
Taylor
it is grey area...probably not legal in licensing terms.
you can reinstall software through reflashing the original rom by micro-sd or dnw. I don't think they can find out you flash another rom without going through some crazy method. so i think if you need warranty repair just reflash the original rom.
you do lose everything so backup your stuff
as for versions, there are 6.1, 6.5 roms. Most up to date does not mean most stable, read people comment to determine which one is better. the 2xxxx is the build number of wm 6.x os, usually higher number mean more recent but it also depends on the branch (the 2nd digit from the left tell you that)
Im used to flashing XPERIA X1. I did id 100 times.
I just saved enough money to buy myself HD2 which is very expensive in Bosnia.
So i want to be very carefull with it. Im sorry for opening a new topic but try to understand me. LOL.
What is the major differences between flashing X1 (kovsimg.nbh) and HD2
Is it like XPERIA and the first flash via USB so you can later use kovsimg.nbh files on MicroSD for new ROMS.
What are the risks??
No its not too different,if I were you wouldnt think of flashing from the SD/Card, for now,its always safer to do it by active Sinc with your PC,its better to forget the Xperia and start from scratch,its very easy once you put together the bits and pieces,and welcome to the forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=-1&f=534
this is a good place to start with,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
With this thread,
and dont forget that you can also get Android to work on your HD2 from your SD card.
good luck
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No its not too different,if I were you wouldnt think of flashing from the SD/Card, for now,its always safer to do it by active Sinc with your PC,its better to forget the Xperia and start from scratch,its very easy once you put together the bits and pieces,and welcome to the forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=-1&f=534
this is a good place to start with,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
With this thread,
and dont forget that you can also get Android to work on your HD2 from your SD card.
good luck
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Thanks. Its always good to see non-arogant people on internet who want to help.
Android will be important part of my HD2. Having two systems on one phone is great. I used android on my X1 but versions for X1 are still far away from beeing usable for everyday work.
Main reason for flashing ROM on my NEW HD2 is becouse of special WM ROM for HD2 which enables low battery consumption for Android.
Thanks again. And if anyone have something to add...please do so.
P.S. I flashed my X1 lots of times with microSD method and i did not have a single problem. But if you say activesync method is better than i shall do it via USB.
Xperia although branded as a Sony ericsson Device is really made by HTC. (HTC Kovsky) So the flashing process is more or less identical. Flash HSPL and then your custom Roms.
OK another Questin. My X1 was without warranty.
My HD2 is Vodafone branded (no idea why), there is no vodafone in Bosnia. I have 12 months warranty not with vodapfone but with local mobile shop.
Does flashing vodafone update changes serial number or warranty
And does flashing custom ROMs changes warranty. I guess it does.
Other question...does flashing custom rom changes Serial or IMEI number???
Before it was not important to me. But now it is.
Flashing does not change imei number but I think it does void the warranty if you flash a custom spl.
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I now. But in my warranty paper they is specific "serial number must not be changed"
Flashing is not changing IMEI, but is it changing SERIAL NUMBER???
Nope, flashing your phone will not change your IMIE or your phone's serial number, and even if flashing it would void your warranty, bringing it back to stock condition (just like it is now) is no harder than flashing a ROM.
So as far as warranty, not much to worry about
Like a previous poster said though, read everything
Then read it again
Then have fun flashing !!!
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Nope, flashing your phone will not change your IMIE or your phone's serial number, and even if flashing it would void your warranty, bringing it back to stock condition (just like it is now) is no harder than flashing a ROM.
So as far as warranty, not much to worry about
Like a previous poster said though, read everything
Then read it again
Then have fun flashing !!!
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THX. When you say its not harder than flashing. Do you mean backing up your ROM and flashing it or flashing original ROM.
you can install back your original Stock SPL,check here for HSPL thread and look for HSPL2_Run.EXE this will restore the original SPL,after that Download your original Stock ROM fro HTC support website with your S/N and flash it from your computer by connecting through USB and active Sync,this way you are back to your stock phone.
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you can install back your original Stock SPL,check here for HSPL thread and look for HSPL2_Run.EXE this will restore the original SPL,after that Download your original Stock ROM fro HTC support website with your S/N and flash it from your computer by connecting through USB and active Sync,this way you are back to your stock phone.
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Thank you all. You can consider this topic finished. I flashed HSPL3 and EnergyROM with latest Radio. Everything works.
If phone breaks in future i will then think about flashing stock stuff.
Thanks again to all of you.
Virgin mobile recently replaced my HTC HD2 handset as the screen had completely frozen (after 11 months into my contract) despite soft reset, hard reset, reset to factory default and rom upgrade.
However, the rom version of the replacement handset which is a re-conditioned handset (not brand new as they were out of stock) is only 1.66.351.1 whilst the rom version of my first phone had been upgraded to 3.14.405.2.
When i enter the serial no. of the replacement handset into the HTC website, it says that the rom upgrade is n't suitable for that device ?
Although using the original rom is n't really a problem, the voice / sound of the co-pilot application which i had bought and worked fine on my first phone does n't seem to work and the twiitter app (mo-tweets) which i used on my first phone also crashes after 10 seconds of use.
Apparently later roms are supposed to be more stable and less buggy ?
Has anyone else had this problem on the HTC website of serial no's not being suitable for their HD2 handset - someone suggested that i could use my old serial number but i was afraid that it my invalidate my warranty?
From the sounds of it (someone correct me if I'm wrong) your replacement phone is branded or possibly foreign, so the ROM you're trying to download isn't suitable.
I take it there's nothing in the apps list suggesting branding of any type?
You can either try downloading some of the branded ROMs to see if you can find one which works, that will tell you what brand it's locked to.
I'm on O2 for instance, and they've yet to release a 3.14 ROM so I can't download anything higher than the O2 1.72 ROM from HTC.
I have however got hold of the generic 3.14 ROM and use the goldcard technique to load it onto my handset.
it means the handset it locked to a specific network and not unbranded so thats why you cannot use the htc site to download
thanks to both of you for your replies. I had read that some providers (O2 and Vodafone) HD2's were locked but virgin HD2 were not, indeed my original HD2 allowed the latest rom (i've still got a copy of it on my laptop).
I just don't understand why Virgin have locked the replacement (maybe because it was re-conditioned and not brand new, or perhaps its because i only have 6 months left on the contract perhaps ?)
I've also read other people who used 'other people's' serial numbers to download the rom update's from the HTC website. So, when i asked HTC support if i was allowed to used rom update that i had previously downloaded, they initially replied yes, but when i mentioned that the serial no. of the replacement gave a 'un-suitable for your device' response they asked me to call them up (rather than respond in writing)
do anyone know if i attempted to install the latest (3.14) rom onto my replacement HD2 whether ;-
a. it will actually damage the phone ?
b. whether it invalidates the HTC warranty (as the 1 year warranty from virgin runs out this month - but the HTC warranty will run for another year - although i don't want to not use Co-pilot and mo-tweets for a year)