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Right to upgrade with Voda1605?

I got my Vodafone1605 with wm5 installed. Do I lose my warranty(I bought it from Vodafone) if I apply official HTC WM6 upgrade for Hermes?

in a word, no.
Few things you should do first tho.
First off, if you want to use your phone with other network sim cards try unlocking it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
Dont CID unlock though, cos that will remove your warranty. Basicly follow the install procedure, but when it asks what you want to do just tick network unlock.
Then you should install Hard SPL v7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
Its a very very simple install that will not screw your warranty, but will allow you to install any rom, be it official or a cooked one and will make it much less likely to brick your phone.
You will probably get bored off the official rom really quickly, so its worth looking at a cooked rom, they offer better features, run faster, take up less room and look a lot better.
Heres two I would recommend.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349338
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359458
and keep an eye on this, looks gooood
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363782
One thing you should remember, there is always a risk of ****ing up your phone when upgrading the rom, radio or anything. Hard SPL removes 99.99% of that risk, but there is still always a chance. But there is guides here of what do if anything happens.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick
Any other questions have a search on the forum, if you cant find anything ask, someone should help.

Hi,
There are no official software up dates for the V1605 available from Vodafone. If you do decide to change the software to something that isn't supported by Vodafone you will in fact invalidate the warranty.
We have explained this in more detail here.
Techgirl
Vodafone UK

Funny how my device was replaced under warranty after id flashed it a dozen times, I just installed the original rom again and now one said a thing.

does the hard spl backup the original rom?

no, hardspl allows you install different roms. If you want to revert to the original rom you can. Its on this site.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
Its one of the two english vodafone ones....

I found a CD in the phone package and there are windows mobile 5 geniune stickers and eula and stuff like that, can the original rom be there?

Not likely.

so where can I get the original ROM? It's czech vodafone rom

Czech rom doesnt seem to be on this site, it will be around somewhere tho.

I just managed to get the original rom. So, if I flash now, are you absolutely sure that after the "flash the original rom back" thing they won't recognize anything at the repair service?
PLS, quick reply, I'm deciding whether to get a cashback for the SDHC or to keep it

AVN37 said:
And if I copy THE WHOLE content of the memory card to my HDD, flash some wm6 rom, will it be recognized if I just put those old files back? It won't be like the original, will it?
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The contents of your memory card will still be threr after you flash a newer ROM to the device, the memory card isnt changed at all.
I would recommend you take some time to read through the WIKI PAGES on the hermes before continuing with any upgrades.

Flashing new ROM - will I lose Orange settings?

Hi all,
I am new to flashing ROMs, but like the look of the new Leo ROMs that Dutty has.
I have looked through the site for a step-by-step guide and am fairly happy with the procedure. I understand I need to install Hard SPL and then flash the new ROM. Will I lose the phone SMS, Internet and Call settings? I am on Orange UK - I'm fairly sure their customer services won't be interested in helping me....
Cheers,
Jimmy

You will lose them initially, but when you put the Orange SIM card back in the phone and reset it the phone will reconfigure itself for the SIM card settings. I've done this several times with my own Orange SIM so I'm sure it works, don't worry

I have done the same with my service provider, after the flash my provider settings are updated.

Bear in mind that if it's a contract phone, flashing it will invalidate the warranty (so if you ever need it sent back, make sure you re-flash the original Orange version of the ROM and SPL, which you can find on here with a quick search). They can't tell over the air that you've flashed anything, only if they get the handset back for repair.
The only other thing to note is that Orange adds stuff (like WorldCard Mobile) that isn't present in all the cooked ROMs, so pick your new one carefully if you're using something particular.

Thanks guys, will give it a go. Anyone recommend a good ROM? I'm looking for something that's quicker and more user-friendly than the shipped one.

I'm using Dutty's WM6.5 Leo R7 ROM. Ticks all the boxes for me. Tried Miri's ROMs as well but prefer Dutty's stuff. Can find it on HTC Pedia.
Cheers
Dazza

should probably point out, flashing doesn't necessarily invalidate your warranty - i took orange care(the extended warranty pretty much), and had to send my phone into orange to get repaired, i told them id flashed the rom to winmo 6.5 and they said it didnt matter - as long as i hadn't changed the spl, all they'd do is wipe it and give me a new one...
so in order to keep your warranty valid, maybe consider using uspl instead?

This should really have been asked in dummies guide thread. No need to create new thread for these queries.
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p.s. also, bare in mind you can still validate warranty even after you have used HSPL. You just need to return to stock SPL and any stock rom. Step-by-step procedure to return to stock SPL from HSPL can be found at bottom of first post in this thread

hay dude whats up ? after flashing ROM ur device restarts automatically & prompts u with ur carrier provider name eg orange uk just tap ok and restart u r done. Ur settings r created automatically. But be sure that u dont flashing radio from other posts it'll brick ur phone. Then why r u waiting for ? Go happy flashing.

spartan why do you close every thread wheneva someones question is answered? it stops people using the same thread to ask simlar questions lol meaning they have to start a new thread hence more clutter lol

hay dude whats up ? after flashing ROM ur device restarts automatically & prompts u with ur carrier provider name eg orange uk just tap ok and restart u r done. Ur settings r created automatically. But be sure that u dont flashing radio from other posts it'll brick ur phone. Then why r u waiting for ? Go happy flashing.

mancsoulja said:
spartan why do you close every thread wheneva someones question is answered? it stops people using the same thread to ask simlar questions lol meaning they have to start a new thread hence more clutter lol
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If people used the search function they would discover these older threads with solutions and then there would be no need to create a new friend to ask similar question!!!

No HD2 Rom Upgrade With T-mobile

Hi,
I have just bought a HTC HD2 from T-mobile to realise I can't upgrade the ROM through the official HTC website.
I would like to know from Virgin Costumers whether they have tried to upgrade the ROM of their HTC HD2 through the Official HTC website and whether it worked.
I am asking this because I am still on the trial period and also because of warranty issues if I try to upgrade trough another route apart from the T-mobile's...
So, the question is...
Have you got a HTC HD2 from virgin? Have you upgrade the ROM through the HTC website?

If it's vendor locked you'll need to flash HSPL to install a stock or custom ROM...see this thread for details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477

If I do install another ROM they say I loose the warranty...
As I still am in the trial period I could just return the mobile. But for this I need to know whether the HTC HD2 from virging is also branded or not... So I can go and get one from them and do the upgrades myself through HTC website... Withought loosing any warranty.

You can revert back to the original SPL/ROM if you need to return it for any reason...
As for the Virgin HD2, only way is putting the S/N into the ROM download page on HTCs support site and see if it allows a download. If not, it's locked

There's at least a dozen of threads about it. Don't be lazy and use search!
You won't loose the warranty, you can flash the phone back to it's original state in case you need to send it back for repairs.

You can download the original T-Mobile ROM from in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577717 so you can always go back if you need warranty work! I was reluctant to flash, but I did it from the original T-Mobile ROM and it has transfromed my HD2... I'm using MIRI 6.5 ROM and it is awesome, fast, stable, more RAM (with the right radio) and best of all, Youtube... GO ahead and do it. You think the HD2 is good now, wait until you unleash some of it's real potential....

Yes, that is why I am asking if there is someone who is a virgin costumer to help me with this...
I need to know if they have tried and what the outcome was.
About the warranty... The problem is that if I upgrade to another ROM and the mobile has a hardware fault that doesn't allow me to downgrade to the original ROM I suppose I would loose the warranty. This is a risk I may not want to take...
I have been talking to the tmobile technical people a lot after I realised I couldn't upgrade to a new ROM via HTC... Very annoying to know it is not possible whatsoever.

and as proof, I flashed mine back to the original ROM earlier this week. Search the ROM forum for posts by a member called 'football' who posted links to the TMo UK ROMs.
The flash back to the original ROM worked just fine, BUT it's a rubbish ROM so I'm back on 1.66

lol @ everyone pushing for the HSPL option, , , , lets not forget you cant uninstal HSPL if, for instance, the sd card reader has failed, , how would you get that fixed on warranty??
I'm not knocking it, HSPL is the first thing i did, just pointing out that restoring the warranty isn't foolproof.

in this post here a virgin user claims the phone is unlocked to the HTC website.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=632892

I didn't want to cause such turmoil...
Just want to know, from a Virgin customer, if they have managed to install the ROM update through the HTC website... if when they add their mobile serial number they are given the download option or they are barred with this message: "Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device."
Thanks guys for the help

My son is on Virgin and his is unlocked out of the box I'am on T-Mobile (locked ) ) I am still deciding whether to update to one of the new roms on xda del. or hang out for an official rom from T-Mobile. Which I believe will be released soon with a big?????.

samsamuel said:
lol @ everyone pushing for the HSPL option, , , , lets not forget you cant uninstal HSPL if, for instance, the sd card reader has failed, , how would you get that fixed on warranty??
I'm not knocking it, HSPL is the first thing i did, just pointing out that restoring the warranty isn't foolproof.
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I had a flash fail this week. When I started the phone it booted to a black screen with some sort of warning triangle. Somehow HSPL had been removed in the botched flash and the SPL was back to 1.42.000, so putting a LEOIMG.nbh on my SD card just resulted in a 'Not Allowed' message being displayed.
However, I was still able to reflash the original TMo ROM from my PC via USB using the exe that you can find on the ROM forum. I would expect that this will only work with the exe for a ROM issued by your network though, so make sure you have that saved before you flash anything.

DavidC1980 said:
Somehow HSPL had been removed in the botched flash and the SPL was back to 1.42.000,
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No doubt you flashed an official rom from the sd card, that is the only way HSPL can be removed. I really really advise people against using sd card for anything except your phones original rom. So easy to make an error.

Virgin UK HD2 is unlocked
I am a Virgin UK customer and my HD2 is indeed unlocked. When I first boot I had to select Virgin Mobile from a long list that included all the major carriers. I have no problems in updating ROMS. Their customer support is without doubt the best I have ever experienced. I do not work for them. My brother is with T-Mobile, his phone is locked down with Crap software. I am SOOOO glad I am not with them. Just check their forums. They are still on ROM 1.43 from october... no YouTube... other stuff missing and buggy... Disgrace.

Original poster: if you want the phone on contract from T-Mobile but unbranded, you could buy it through some third-party mobile-phone store chain like Car Phone Warehouse or Mobile Phones Direct. Their phones are all unbranded.

If you want to install the HTC ROM without using HSPL you could always use a gold card to flash it.

constructorx said:
I am a Virgin UK customer and my HD2 is indeed unlocked. When I first boot I had to select Virgin Mobile from a long list that included all the major carriers. I have no problems in updating ROMS. Their customer support is without doubt the best I have ever experienced. I do not work for them. My brother is with T-Mobile, his phone is locked down with Crap software. I am SOOOO glad I am not with them. Just check their forums. They are still on ROM 1.43 from october... no YouTube... other stuff missing and buggy... Disgrace.
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I must agree with the above. I am with T-Mobile, got my HD2 at the end of January and it had ROM 1.43. They also stripped out YouTube and Co-Pilot! I downloaded a poor-man's version of YouTube as discussed in other threads (i.e. using the IE browser on the phone to download the cab file) and thought I was cool, but with T-Mobile taking an age to release the update ROM (I have heard March, but I wouldn't hold my breath!) I decided to use HSPL and update to 1.66 from the HTC website. Best decision I made!
Not only are all the little bugs fixed, I know have the 'proper' YouTube app back (beautiful!), Co-Pilot (trial version) plus a Windows Task Manager app (very useful!).
I did alot of reading before taking the plunge though, and made backups of backups, had a roll-back plan (admittedly untested) and followed each stage implicitly! But it was very striaghtforward due to the guys on this forum doing a fantastic job!

I never made one call on my T-Mobile HD2 before I flashed over to stock HTC ROM.
Years of HTC devices and operators ROMS told me not to wait until later!

bocsta said:
I never made one call on my T-Mobile HD2 before I flashed over to stock HTC ROM.
Years of HTC devices and operators ROMS told me not to wait until later!
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I did exactly the same!
As soon as I turned it on and saw that horrid T-Mobile logo, I turned it off again and flashed it with the HTC WWE Rom

help with hd2 t-mobile bricked

I am new in this type of phone and I bricked it. how I flash a rom with out HSPL and the phone dont do nothing only one thing when I connect to the computer it reconize it like Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM but now I dont know what to do to fix it. I think the phone is not damage because the pc reconize it. please help me fix it if there is away to . thankyou

sounds like you have flashed an incorrect radio. Did you by any chance try and flash a non tmous stock rom? Cos thats what happens if you flash an incorrect (non tmous) stock rom because they all include a radio that WILL NEVER work on the tmous.
The phone is dead. Sorry.

the rom I flash it work with my phone because I flash it before. The problem was that I flash my phone to stock and I forgot to HSPL to flash the same rom I had. I think there is a solucion for thins because the phone is like he does't have rom install.

I'm not too knowledgeable on this, but I think you flashed a wrong SPL base or something for the ROM you used to use. Having said that, making multiple threads does not accelerate the rate at which people respond to your problem, so please stop it.

what rom did you flash?

this the rom I flash NorgzRom.2.13.1.N0R.6Z tmous. I have it install on my other HD2 right now and it work perfectly. I brick it because I flash it without HSPL. I what to know if someone know's how to fix it. thanks

Let's see if I can sort the problem out, as your grammar leaves much to be desired.
You took a phone with a custom ROM already on it, and flashed it back to the stock ROM. Which stock ROM? The thing is, depending on how/which ROM you flashed, your unlocked version of SPL 2.08 could have been replaced with the updated and locked down SPL 2.10. Attempting to flash a custom ROM would then result in what you're seeing now.
You then decided to flash NorgzRom 2.13.
The phone now does not boot or do anything except for show up on your computer when connected via USB.
Does this cover what happened?
My suggestion is to attempt a Task 29; although I highly doubt it will work.
The symptoms you are having are the same ones that manifest when a bad radio is flashed. At this point if T29 fails call T-mobile, play dumb, and get the phone taken in under warranty. Currently there is no other solution.
Best of luck

kelkey said:
I am new in this type of phone and I bricked it. how I flash a rom with out HSPL and the phone dont do nothing only one thing when I connect to the computer it reconize it like Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM but now I dont know what to do to fix it. I think the phone is not damage because the pc reconize it. please help me fix it if there is away to . thankyou
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Regarding your connection to the PC:
Don't worry about the "Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM" message -- many phones (including the HD2) when connected to the PC identify themselves in such a way as to match this driver. So the fact that Windows is seeing the phone and trying to install this driver is a good thing. Once Windows searches Windows Update it will identify the *correct* driver (something like "HTC USB Sync" if I remember correctly) and install it.
I believe you can also install this Windows Mobile Device Center update that will allow you to skip the step of searching for drivers on Windows Update.

tai4de2 said:
Regarding your connection to the PC:
Don't worry about the "Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM" message -- many phones (including the HD2) when connected to the PC identify themselves in such a way as to match this driver. So the fact that Windows is seeing the phone and trying to install this driver is a good thing. Once Windows searches Windows Update it will identify the *correct* driver (something like "HTC USB Sync" if I remember correctly) and install it.
I believe you can also install this Windows Mobile Device Center update that will allow you to skip the step of searching for drivers on Windows Update.
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Ummm...what does that have to do with the fact that his phone will not boot?

I tried with windows mobile device center and active sync. but nothing happens.It keeps saing to install the drivers for this devices (Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM) .I hope some one get a anwser for this problem.I all ready got a new one because of the injurent but I wish to fix this one. here is the link for my video, so you can see the problem.Sorry for my bad ingles because I speak spanish,hope you understand http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZE70gwHmSc. please live comments. Thankyou!

Hi, I know you assured us the same rom was loadeed onto your other phone, but having just watched yor video, that is exactly what happens when you flash the wrong radio to a tmous. The phone wont turn on, nothing on screen, and when you connect to PC it shows up as qualcomm.
There are a fair number of posts with exactly this behavour, and all of them are down to the wrong radio.
It may be that it is just a coincidence and that the phone has died for some other reason, but I would guess the result is still the same - unrecoverable.
Still under warranty?

I have one question can I clone my new HD2 the one I have from the warranty with the one is damage. Our if there is a program that do this. I mean like transfer all the progaraming from the Hd2 (working) to the damage one. please if someone know's let me know. Thankyou very much!

There is nothing you can do. I know you wish there was because it is a lousy circumstance but you can't do anything once it's bricked. Get a new one if you haven't already and move on. I hate having to be so repetitive but you don't seem to understand. Plenty of people have bricked...just talk to T-mobile, act like you don't know what happened, get a new one under warranty, and move on.
~Jasecloud4

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samsamuel said:
sounds like you have flashed an incorrect radio. Did you by any chance try and flash a non tmous stock rom? Cos thats what happens if you flash an incorrect (non tmous) stock rom because they all include a radio that WILL NEVER work on the tmous.
The phone is dead. Sorry.
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I think this what happened also to my unlocked Tmobile HTC HD2. I now have a bricked phone too...
With all our experts here, is there really no way that we can fix a bricked HTC HD2 besides sending it back to T-mobile?

allanbsutarez said:
I think this what happened also to my unlocked Tmobile HTC HD2. I now have a bricked phone too...
With all our experts here, is there really no way that we can fix a bricked HTC HD2 besides sending it back to T-mobile?
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There is no way to undo the damage. You have to make sure you know exactly what you're doing when flashing a rom to your phone. All the experts in the world can't help you if you don't do your research first. It is your responsibility to make sure you are flashing a compatible rom or radio. I don't intend to sound harsh but you need to read, read, read then read again for good measure. Good luck and just play dumb when you contact T-Mobile.

Bricked hd2
I am kinda new to this forum. I just purchased my HD2 on June 30th and prior to that I was a Blackberry power user.
I have bricked my Blackberry devices MANY times and each time I was able to recover it so I had no fear of installing a new OS. It got so bad that every time a leaked or official OS was released for my Bold 9700 I would install it and Blackberry OS updates are released several times in a month sometimes.
But in the last couple of weeks of HD2 ownership I have "thought" about installing a cooked ROM but there is no room for error. I would hate to brick this HD2 and I just got it.
Hell.......I work in the IT field on workstations, servers......ect and I have no fear of working on those systems because I know I can recover the data and the system if need be. Since a bricked HD2 is basically a pretty paperweight I will wait until I am seriously comfortable with the process.
Until that time I'll just continue to pick up tips and tricks for this great device!

squire366 said:
I am kinda new to this forum. I just purchased my HD2 on June 30th and prior to that I was a Blackberry power user.
I have bricked my Blackberry devices MANY times and each time I was able to recover it so I had no fear of installing a new OS. It got so bad that every time a leaked or official OS was released for my Bold 9700 I would install it and Blackberry OS updates are released several times in a month sometimes.
But in the last couple of weeks of HD2 ownership I have "thought" about installing a cooked ROM but there is no room for error. I would hate to brick this HD2 and I just got it.
Hell.......I work in the IT field on workstations, servers......ect and I have no fear of working on those systems because I know I can recover the data and the system if need be. Since a bricked HD2 is basically a pretty paperweight I will wait until I am seriously comfortable with the process.
Until that time I'll just continue to pick up tips and tricks for this great device!
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There is plenty of room for error , but the ONE thing you cannot do is flash an incompatible Radio, out of all the things you can do that is only one, the MAIN one ...
If it is a TMOUS HD2, which I assume it is you cannot flash any radio to be safe, prior to 2.08 or any radio that has x.xx.51.x in it ... Pretty much anything else you do short of a hardware failure there is a recovery option ...
so TMOUS HD2 Nothing but Official TMO ROMs or TMOUS compatible custom ROMs and TMO Compatible Radios ...
EU ROMs , may brick your device if they have a radio ..
HTC ROMs , may brick your device if they have a radio

Hey all! I'm kinda new to this windows mobile stuff also...I used to be a blackberry man, but couldn't resist the hype on the htc hd2 so i jumped on the wagon and got one. I'm paying full price ($400.00) so I am definitly afraid of doing a rom flash. After reading all the horror stories on here and seeing all the different roms out there...it's just to risky for me. The last thing I need in this economy is a $400.00 paper wieght. There has to be an easier way to do this rom stuff. Does anyone know of a rom that works for sure...or are they all problematic?

kelkey said:
I tried with windows mobile device center and active sync. but nothing happens.It keeps saing to install the drivers for this devices (Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM) .I hope some one get a anwser for this problem.I all ready got a new one because of the injurent but I wish to fix this one. here is the link for my video, so you can see the problem.Sorry for my bad ingles because I speak spanish,hope you understand http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZE70gwHmSc. please live comments. Thankyou!
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did you try the wmdc update in the prev. post that has the drivers?

nrfitchett4 said:
did you try the wmdc update in the prev. post that has the drivers?
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This threads from May. His phones probably been replaced...

[Q] Flashing ROM For Warranty

Hi Guys, First off I would like to thank everyone for all their amazing ROMs.
I'm a long time lurker, first time poster. So I think the entire chef community need a big round of appluase before I start.
So here's the deal, I lost my HD2, got it barred, Sim and Phone, then, Someone recovered it!
I asked O2 to unbar it, Could not be done. 6 Days on and my phone remains barred. What is weird is that other network SIMs work in my phone, and my SIM works in other handsets. Ya. Pretty freaky.
Anyway, they want me to send it in for repair / replace. Need to make sure I have everything Stock so they don't go "LOL U BRICKED IT AND VOIDED WARRENTEH SUX FOR YEW"
About to Flash RUU_Le2_UK_1.72.206.3_Radio_CRC_Signed_15.32.50 .07U_2.07.51.22_2_Ship.exe (From 4shared shared folder with teh stock ROMs)
From what I've read this should solve my worries. I just want confirmation on this and/or any advice on what I would have to do to return it to factory Settings so they don't PWNnarf me for using the HD2 to it's full potential.
Thanks again to the whole community ;D

If your phone is O2 UK branded, then that should be fine. Once it is flashed, check that the ROM and RADIO are correct and boot up in BootLoader mode and check that the SPL is 1.66.0000 and not ending with .HSPL

It does end in hard HSPL after flashing a stock ROM. Anyway to fix this?
If it helps at all, I had the New windows phone 7 ROM before this, if that makes any difference ;3
EDIT: DISREGARD THIS I found a solution. Close thread or summat.