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Backup of ROM?

Hello.
I want to change/upgrade my ROM to WM6. But I want to make a Backup of my existing from first (maybe I'm to stupid to do the Update) and to have the chance to get my MDA Vario back to life I want to make a backup of the ROM is installed at this time.
Could somebody maybe tell me how i can backup my ROM? And... How can I reinstall the ROM? I think it will be moved to the SD Card?
Thanks a lot.

You might want to try this then first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305294

Thanks for this.
May problem is that I have a "very" new ROM installed (T-Mobile MDA Vario 2.21.2.8 GER). and I'm unable to complete the the CID unlock process (the Netlock is removed allready with the lokiwiz 3a.).
If I'm entering the Bootloader and open mtty I'm .not able to open the USB port.
Does it mean I need to downgrade?
Thanks Maik

There is a newer public T-Mobile ROM on the T-Mobile website: Version 2.26.2
You need to downgrade your ROM to custom 1.05 (check the WIKI page) in order to run lokwiz CID unlocker!
I tried the version 3 of lokwiz but the only one which worked properly on my MDA was the version .2b
How ever,
the CID lock should not effect the MTTY utility. This is an official HTC procedure and should work on any WIZ.
UPDATE:
I just saw that you're talking about a german ROM? The latest public german ROM is 3.3.8 (check the german T-Mobile site for that!). If you want to keep the older 2.21 you can find it at the Austrian T-Mobile site again after downgrading and unlocking your CID
I am running the german rom AKU3.3 myself - it is much nicier than previous versions and has already some WM6 features integrated.

Ok. So I need to downgrade my Device. to do the CID unlock.
Maybe the system firewall and some other settings are affecting the MTTY issue.
I checked the T-Mobile website for the newer German ROM version.
If I check https://after-sales-service.t-mobile.de/eg_online/t-mobile/t_mda_vario.htm (what my Device is) I only see the 2.21 version and NO newer version?

1.
Go to www.t-mobile.de
2.
Click on top on the menu "HILFE & FAQ"
3.
Select on that site "Broschüren & Software"
4.
Now click on the left site menu on "T-Mobile Software"
5.
It takes you to a new page and asks you for your MDA. Don't worry if your PDA is not in the list! Just choose any PDA. It will take you to a new page and show you the selected PDA. Right underneath you will see a link: "Model aendern" - click on that link and then chose as Manufacturer T-Mobile and you will find the MDA VARIO!
Sorry for being so complicate but the T-Mobile site is set up with Flash, so, you can't just copy the link! You always have to go the loooong way! Be aware that you have to temporarely allow popup's ... !
How ever,
I will try to paste the link here to the direct download and I hope it works:
http://www.t-mobile.de/downloads/t-mobile/ruu_vario_aku3.3_3822_382120_026911_tmo_de_ger_ship.zip

Hey the link works....
Thanks. I find out that my Device is a G4 device and I also see that I can't unCID this device... Right?
I'm a little bit in fear that something is going wrong during the Update to WM6 and I have no working Backup on my SD card.
Ok. So this steps I will do. Maybe you can currect me if I'm wrong.
1. I will perform a downgrade to the custom rom 1.05 and then I make a backup after running CID unlock.
2. I make a Backup with the MTTY
3. I will install the WM6
4. If not working I can backup from SD card and maybe install the newest ROM

You only should downgrade for CID unlocking your device! This is required for installing other ROMs than from your cell phone provider!
If you want to upgrade to the new german AKU3.3 from T-Mobile - that should work without CID unlock! You also should be able to downgrade to your existing ROM version in case you just dislike the new AKU3.3
BTW:
If you're planning to upgrade to a selfmade WM6 which you can find all over the web: I tried almost all of them! None was as stabile and good as the german T-Mobile AKU3.3! Sure, they look cute with their VISTA-style look but the functionality is far away from being perfect! Also: Lots of the ROMs are very user-personalized and contain no configuration for your network (such as GPRS and MMS) - my advice: stick to your provider ROMs, either AKU2 (which you're currently running) or the newer AKU3.3 from the link above - at least until you learnt flashing and registry hacking on your device!

WOW I allready can hack the Registry but having sometimes some issues with instructions here . Like I say before... I'm a little bit in fear...

Well, it is understandable! Noone wants to end up with a brick!
There is always a risk in flashing devices! I do it since years now and was unlucky only once by flashing a SIM locked ROM to a Motorola phone. Haven't had any problems since then. The best thing is READING and if you can't find answers just post your question. Next to it is always helpful to check also other Forums or try to find guides in your own mother tongue!
Hacking the registry is not really riskfully - at leat the only one thing what can happen is that your device won't start up and you might lose your files and data. Other than that you should be able in any case to get it running with a hard reset again by holding CON button and Voice Dial button at the same time and press Reset.
Flashing can destroy the device because of it actually erases everything in the device; even the ROM before it writes the new one. But even here you will be able to enter in BOOTLOADER mode in most cases.

Yeah thats right Junner. Reading and asking... Since I flashed my SDA wrong I'm happy to have a Backup on the SD card to get the Image back. If this is the case I'm happy.
I installed AKU 3.3 and it's looking good and working fine.
Maybe I will downgrade to the custom 1.05 and do a backup. I only want to look how the WM6 is looking.
Are you German? Or german speeking?

The ROM backup to SD card via MTTY should work without CID unlocking your device! There is no need to downgrade for that purpose. I had hard times by doing it too. It took me several trials until it worked finally!
The downgrade is only necessary if you're planning to install ROMs from other providers or ROMs in other languages. I asume you're german, so, if you don't believe anything I say - this you can believe: the german AKU3.3 is the best out there you can find for the WIZ
Like I mentioned earlier: all the WM6 ROMs you will find all over the web are user created! They are either taken off from other devices and changed around until they worked on the WIZ or just visual pepped up AKU3.3 ROMs (the one you installed now). Allthough, I did not find any WM6 out ther which did not have issues in one way or another ...
I speak a little bit german , yeah!
We have WURSTFEST here once a year with lots of Sauerkraut and beer ...

Mates, if I read my rom am i going to be able to copy it to pc and Dump it with a ROM Kitchen?

ROM, warranty as well and app question?

HI,
I keep reading questions about ROM and flashing the phone, can someone explain what ROM is and flashing the phone please? I have tried search on this forum and get no answers. I have googled ROM and it tells me that it is a permanent storage chip, but if that's the case how come there are upgrades and why do people talk about erasing them?
Also, I've read that in the UK only ROM upgrades supplied by the service provider are allowed without invalidating warranty. If that's the case does this mean that you can't fiddle/tweak the phone without losing the warranty, or is there still plenty of tweaking you can do?
Finally, with UK phones can you still use apps and cabs from sites like this or would that invalidate warranty as well?
Cheers

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Technically a ROM chip is just that- a Read Only Memory chip that holds fixed information.
In Windows Mobile (and general phone) terms, the ROM has come to mean the software (or firmware) that is loaded into the ROM chip. So, for the HD2, if you look in Device Information you will see a ROM version. For release this was 1.43, but HTC have since released V1.48 and there are some engineering samples of V1.61 around as well.
Flashing the phone means the process of installing a new ROM image into the ROM chip. Official versions are executed using a ROM Update Utility (RUU) while the phone is connected to the PC, but 'cooked' versions are more often executed from the memory card.
In general, you can only update the ROM with one designed for that phone unless you make some changes to the BIOS, which involves installing a sub-program called Hard SPL. Once that is installed, you can then update the phone with any compatible ROM. Currently there is no Hard SPL available for the HD2, but the specialists are working on it
In the meantime there is a workaround to allow the loading of official ROM images from other locales or operators, but again this needs some specific changes being made to the memory card from which it is loaded.
The warranty situation is far from clear. Technically you should only update a device with a ROM image supplied by the operator, or by HTC if it was bought SIM free; however, the HD2 has been supplied pretty much the same as SIM free models by Vodafone and O2. Vodafone contradict themselves in their advice- one paragraph says you can install an 'official' update, but another paragraph says you can't.
Installing cooked ROMs (when they become available) would definitely invalidate any warranty.

snerkler said:
HI,
I keep reading questions about ROM and flashing the phone, can someone explain what ROM is and flashing the phone please? I have tried search on this forum and get no answers. I have googled ROM and it tells me that it is a permanent storage chip, but if that's the case how come there are upgrades and why do people talk about erasing them?
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Think of the ROM as the operating system of the phone. Both the software itself and the memory chips it is stored on are called ROM, but when you see people discussing ROMs here they will generally mean the software. So the software ROM (ie operating system) is stored on the phones ROM (ie Read Only Memory). It's called read only, but it's not - it can be erased and a new software ROM flashed to it.
snerkler said:
Also, I've read that in the UK only ROM upgrades supplied by the service provider are allowed without invalidating warranty. If that's the case does this mean that you can't fiddle/tweak the phone without losing the warranty, or is there still plenty of tweaking you can do?
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If you bought your phone from a service provider, they will have locked the ability to upgrade the ROM, to ensure that you can only install official upgrades issued by them. This is why many people are waiting for Hard SPL to be completed, as it removes this lock. However, you can tweak your phone and and install as much software as you want without affecting your warranty.
snerkler said:
Finally, with UK phones can you still use apps and cabs from sites like this or would that invalidate warranty as well?
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You can install all the apps and cabs you like without affecting your warranty. A simple hard reset will always return the phone to its 'fresh out of the box' state.
Installing HardSPL and custom roms will invalidate your warranty, but tweaks and cab files won't.
edit - Neil, you beat me to it

My previous phone, an O2 Xda Orbit 2 had a custom ROM and was twice repaired under warranty without problem or question from O2, although both these were hardware related problems.

omneity said:
My previous phone, an O2 Xda Orbit 2 had a custom ROM and was twice repaired under warranty without problem or question from O2, although both these were hardware related problems.
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I guess you were lucky - many people have had their warranty voided by HTC and/or a telco for having custom firmware installed.

Many thanks for the advice, very helpful

HELP - Vodafone UK user, ROM issues? *noob*

I recently bought my HTC HD2 from Vodafone UK, it has a ROM 1.43.405.1 and I cannot update the ROM from HTC website because after insert my SN in the validation box it tells me I cannot get the update....
What should I do?
I saw many ROMs on 4shared but I think they not the same in the HTC site...If they are which one of the should I get for my HTC and why? Will I be able to use my phone with my UK Sim?
Help please...

Windows on your ROM is licensed software, and you bought the license implicitly with your Leo, therefore is it "not possible" to just change ROM.
Having said that , google the forum a bit for SSPL and/or HSPL. there are several (graphical) guides that will tell you how to use them (sticky threads).
good luck!

anyone? someone? help me!

dXsL said:
Windows on your ROM is licensed software, and you bought the license implicitly with your Leo, therefore is it "not possible" to just change ROM.
Having said that , google the forum a bit for SSPL and/or HSPL. there are several (graphical) guides that will tell you how to use them (sticky threads).
good luck!
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I have done the HSPL on LEO now....I just have no idea what ROM to put on now....
From this list: w w w .4shared.com/dir/22189940/b8552fa0/Shipped_Leo_ROMs.html
Which one should I use? :s
My Leo has ROM 1.43.405.1 Vodafone UK which came on it....what I do now?
Thanks

It all comes down to what features you want . Have a look around.

n0a1m said:
It all comes down to what features you want . Have a look around.
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I thought that too but on 4shared they do not describe the features.
Any idea where can I see the features?
To put on other non mobile brand ROM, I must unlock the mobile first, right?
If that is the case, how do I unlock it?
If I put one ROM in the mobile and them upload another one will it delete the features from the one that was on the phone previously?

flashing roms is not connected to thee phone being network locked. it will still be locked after you flash it.
look for a world wide english rom version 1.66 (with 1.66 and wwe I'm the name)

samsamuel said:
flashing roms is not connected to thee phone being network locked. it will still be locked after you flash it.
look for a world wide english rom version 1.66 (with 1.66 and wwe I'm the name)
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Thanks
Btw after the rom update, if I reset my mobile will it be rested to the factory one or the updated version?

Durv84 said:
Thanks
Btw after the rom update, if I reset my mobile will it be rested to the factory one or the updated version?
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No, doing a hard reset will only ever restore it to the rom you last flashed.
To get back to 'as you bought it' you need to find the rom that matches your device.
(for example in your case, voda UK, you find this rom
RUU_Leo_Vodafone_UK_1.43.405.1_Radio_Signed_15.26. 50.07U_2.04.50.22_2_Ship.exe
)
If you then need to get back to stock, and remove HSPL, you can do it with that rom. (not quite as simple as just flashing it, , see the HSPL thread for how to remove HSPL)

Durv84 said:
I thought that too but on 4shared they do not describe the features.
Any idea where can I see the features?
To put on other non mobile brand ROM, I must unlock the mobile first, right?
If that is the case, how do I unlock it?
If I put one ROM in the mobile and them upload another one will it delete the features from the one that was on the phone previously?
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4shared.com/dir/22189940/b8552fa0/Shipped_Leo_ROMs.html are only official Shipped roms mate,i never use them anymore couse i love cooked roms from the best chefs in here,and if you got hspl on your phone why dont you try a cooked rom,Look Around you will find a rom suitable for your phone

turborider said:
4shared.com/dir/22189940/b8552fa0/Shipped_Leo_ROMs.html are only official Shipped roms mate,i never use them anymore couse i love cooked roms from the best chefs in here,and if you got hspl on your phone why dont you try a cooked rom,Look Around you will find a rom suitable for your phone
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OH OK....i will have a look at the kitchen then....
Like I mentioned I am a noob lol....I got here just by trying to understand why couldnt I update my ROM.
One more question, each ROM completely cleans the before it, right? The features do not stuck up (add on)?

I would advise AGAINST blindly leeching any ROM from any online file sharer.
check this forum, read a bit, and select a ROM from a chef that has cooked something you like (speed, looks like stock, removed HTC, removed bloatware, etc etc). I've tried many, and almost all on this forum are excellent (some are more excellent than others though)..
Flashing a ROM completely cleans ALL settings on your phone, all data is gone, besides whatever is on your SD card.
same if you select Settings/Wipe Device option from the start menu.

dXsL said:
Flashing a ROM completely cleans ALL settings on your phone, all data is gone, besides whatever is on your SD card.
same if you select Settings/Wipe Device option from the start menu.
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Be aware that whilst flashing wipes all your old data/settings and such like, it doesn't necessarily wipe the old rom before flashing the new one, just flashes over it.
Roms can be different file sizes, (just compare a few RUU_Signed.nbh file sizes) so sometimes files can be left over from the previous rom. If you start getting random resets and freezes when you didnt before, it could be a sign of a bloated rom. Have a read of the mtty sticky. It looks a little overwhelming at first read, but dead simple really, and basically formats your rom before you flash the new rom.

my 2 pence here...
get the official WWE 1.66 ROM and see if that helps the phone, the 1.43 VF ROM is crap and both 1.48 and 1.66 are miles better so first thing is to give these a go. If, after successfully installing it, you wanna try something else then do so...
and read the n00b thread at the top of this forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
it tells you what to do, with videos if needed...

Hi, I have the same vf handset and was sick of the crappy ROM, I upgraded yesterday after weeks of research and was surprised how easy it was.
However, having had a day to test out my new 1.66 ROM, I have unfortunately found some problems and part of me think maybe I should have waited a little longer for vf to release it officially.
I'm hoping you guys will be able to help again as it may just need different tweaks to the settings...
1. The first problem is that Opera is slightly different, the settings tab has changed, it no longer allows zooming (including pinch zooming) and the pages are not displayed as full width. I have played with all the setting I can in Opera and BsB Tweaks but no joy.
2. I can no longer access TV catchup through Skyfire. The advertisement plays as normal and then it says "non-UK, unauthorised". Is this because it is a WWE ROM and not a UK one? Why isn't there a specific UK ROM like there was for 1.48?
3. Although the alarm volume bug seems to have been fixed, the alarm popup doesn't come up any more when it goes off, making it very difficult to "snooze" or "dismiss".
4. Several error messages have come up relating to the actual phone app, messaging app and audiomanager. The phone has also crashed and gone slow a bit and overall the messaging app is a little more buggy despite it appearing to send all messages.
Any advice would be much appreciated as this does seem as though it could be a much better ROM with some great benefits.

1.48 was also a WWE ROM - there hasn't been a set UK one other than ISP-based ones

EddyOS said:
1.48 was also a WWE ROM - there hasn't been a set UK one other than ISP-based ones
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Fair enough. I was just going by what it was implying on the HTC support page. 1.48 specifically says UK whereas 1.66 simply says WWE and makes no mention of UK.
Does anyone have any advice on the issues I'm having?
Also, if I wanted to revert back to the vf 1.43 ROM using the SD card to remove HSPL, how do I know the file I've downloaded from the shared folders is exactly the same as I had before? I read that it is more risky flashing without HSPL as you have less chance of fixing it if something goes wrong, does this also go for the method of reverting back using the SD card as it is removing the HSPL?

What CID Lock do I have?

Hi all,
first of all appologies if I am posting this in the wrong place but I don't think it quite belobgs in ROM development .
My question is basicaly how do I find out what CID lock is on my HD2?
I bought the phone sim unlocked and all is fine. It works fine with my Virgin sim (UK). I would like to upgrade to the latest official ROM as I don't feel ready to experiment with cooked ROMs just yet.
However when I log on to the HTC web site and try to download a ROM it says "Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device."
I have tried it from both the UK and Europe web sites but get the same result.
The current rom shows no branding of any sort, also there is non on the phone itself.
Is it CID locked to an operators SIM's? If so how do I find out which and will I be able to get a ROM from them if I don't use them?
Or will I have to go the HSPL route and go cooked roms?
Any Help or guidance greatly appreciated.
Regards
Clive

There are truely unlocked phones, and then there are those unlocked but the serial numbers are blocked on request of the service provider. Vodafone, O2 and (I'm guessing) Virgin do this so you can only upgrade when they OK the ROM release.
You can install HSPL which gets around all that and lets you explore the wonderful world of cooked ROMs...read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477

ROM lock and SIM lock are not the same and not connected.
If the HTC website says invalid serial, then the ROM is locked. (Probably to Virgin, if that's where you got it from) and you must wait for them (virgin) to release the update. That is the ONLY way to install a new rom without using HSPL/SSPL
EDIT - Oh, and your line "Or will I have to go the HSPL route and go cooked roms?", , , , HSPL isn't just for cooked roms, it will let you install official HTC roms too, if you want, not just cooked ones.

I didn't get it from Virgin, my SIM is Virgin and that's what I put in it. I bought it privately. I'm guessing then it is CID Locked to Vodaphone or the like.
OK so it looks like HSPL is the route to go?
If I want to install an official HTC ROM how can I download it as I have to enter my serial number and it gets rejected? Are they available elsewhere?
Am I likely to loose anything (apart from guarantee ) by installing latest HTC rom and any advice on which one? I guess by that I mean EU or UK versions?
Thanks for the replies by the way much appreciated

Its pretty important that you know who it was locked to, because to uninstal HSPL, or to fix it if things go bad, the very best thing to have available is the stock rom. As for losing guarantee, if you bought it privately then you already lost that, right?

samsamuel said:
As for losing guarantee, if you bought it privately then you already lost that, right?
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Pretty much although I could send it back through the seller.
Is there way way I can get a copy of the current ROM/SPL out of my phone and save it as a backup?

No HD2 Rom Upgrade With T-mobile

Hi,
I have just bought a HTC HD2 from T-mobile to realise I can't upgrade the ROM through the official HTC website.
I would like to know from Virgin Costumers whether they have tried to upgrade the ROM of their HTC HD2 through the Official HTC website and whether it worked.
I am asking this because I am still on the trial period and also because of warranty issues if I try to upgrade trough another route apart from the T-mobile's...
So, the question is...
Have you got a HTC HD2 from virgin? Have you upgrade the ROM through the HTC website?

If it's vendor locked you'll need to flash HSPL to install a stock or custom ROM...see this thread for details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477

If I do install another ROM they say I loose the warranty...
As I still am in the trial period I could just return the mobile. But for this I need to know whether the HTC HD2 from virging is also branded or not... So I can go and get one from them and do the upgrades myself through HTC website... Withought loosing any warranty.

You can revert back to the original SPL/ROM if you need to return it for any reason...
As for the Virgin HD2, only way is putting the S/N into the ROM download page on HTCs support site and see if it allows a download. If not, it's locked

There's at least a dozen of threads about it. Don't be lazy and use search!
You won't loose the warranty, you can flash the phone back to it's original state in case you need to send it back for repairs.

You can download the original T-Mobile ROM from in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577717 so you can always go back if you need warranty work! I was reluctant to flash, but I did it from the original T-Mobile ROM and it has transfromed my HD2... I'm using MIRI 6.5 ROM and it is awesome, fast, stable, more RAM (with the right radio) and best of all, Youtube... GO ahead and do it. You think the HD2 is good now, wait until you unleash some of it's real potential....

Yes, that is why I am asking if there is someone who is a virgin costumer to help me with this...
I need to know if they have tried and what the outcome was.
About the warranty... The problem is that if I upgrade to another ROM and the mobile has a hardware fault that doesn't allow me to downgrade to the original ROM I suppose I would loose the warranty. This is a risk I may not want to take...
I have been talking to the tmobile technical people a lot after I realised I couldn't upgrade to a new ROM via HTC... Very annoying to know it is not possible whatsoever.

and as proof, I flashed mine back to the original ROM earlier this week. Search the ROM forum for posts by a member called 'football' who posted links to the TMo UK ROMs.
The flash back to the original ROM worked just fine, BUT it's a rubbish ROM so I'm back on 1.66

lol @ everyone pushing for the HSPL option, , , , lets not forget you cant uninstal HSPL if, for instance, the sd card reader has failed, , how would you get that fixed on warranty??
I'm not knocking it, HSPL is the first thing i did, just pointing out that restoring the warranty isn't foolproof.

in this post here a virgin user claims the phone is unlocked to the HTC website.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=632892

I didn't want to cause such turmoil...
Just want to know, from a Virgin customer, if they have managed to install the ROM update through the HTC website... if when they add their mobile serial number they are given the download option or they are barred with this message: "Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device."
Thanks guys for the help

My son is on Virgin and his is unlocked out of the box I'am on T-Mobile (locked ) ) I am still deciding whether to update to one of the new roms on xda del. or hang out for an official rom from T-Mobile. Which I believe will be released soon with a big?????.

samsamuel said:
lol @ everyone pushing for the HSPL option, , , , lets not forget you cant uninstal HSPL if, for instance, the sd card reader has failed, , how would you get that fixed on warranty??
I'm not knocking it, HSPL is the first thing i did, just pointing out that restoring the warranty isn't foolproof.
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I had a flash fail this week. When I started the phone it booted to a black screen with some sort of warning triangle. Somehow HSPL had been removed in the botched flash and the SPL was back to 1.42.000, so putting a LEOIMG.nbh on my SD card just resulted in a 'Not Allowed' message being displayed.
However, I was still able to reflash the original TMo ROM from my PC via USB using the exe that you can find on the ROM forum. I would expect that this will only work with the exe for a ROM issued by your network though, so make sure you have that saved before you flash anything.

DavidC1980 said:
Somehow HSPL had been removed in the botched flash and the SPL was back to 1.42.000,
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No doubt you flashed an official rom from the sd card, that is the only way HSPL can be removed. I really really advise people against using sd card for anything except your phones original rom. So easy to make an error.

Virgin UK HD2 is unlocked
I am a Virgin UK customer and my HD2 is indeed unlocked. When I first boot I had to select Virgin Mobile from a long list that included all the major carriers. I have no problems in updating ROMS. Their customer support is without doubt the best I have ever experienced. I do not work for them. My brother is with T-Mobile, his phone is locked down with Crap software. I am SOOOO glad I am not with them. Just check their forums. They are still on ROM 1.43 from october... no YouTube... other stuff missing and buggy... Disgrace.

Original poster: if you want the phone on contract from T-Mobile but unbranded, you could buy it through some third-party mobile-phone store chain like Car Phone Warehouse or Mobile Phones Direct. Their phones are all unbranded.

If you want to install the HTC ROM without using HSPL you could always use a gold card to flash it.

constructorx said:
I am a Virgin UK customer and my HD2 is indeed unlocked. When I first boot I had to select Virgin Mobile from a long list that included all the major carriers. I have no problems in updating ROMS. Their customer support is without doubt the best I have ever experienced. I do not work for them. My brother is with T-Mobile, his phone is locked down with Crap software. I am SOOOO glad I am not with them. Just check their forums. They are still on ROM 1.43 from october... no YouTube... other stuff missing and buggy... Disgrace.
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I must agree with the above. I am with T-Mobile, got my HD2 at the end of January and it had ROM 1.43. They also stripped out YouTube and Co-Pilot! I downloaded a poor-man's version of YouTube as discussed in other threads (i.e. using the IE browser on the phone to download the cab file) and thought I was cool, but with T-Mobile taking an age to release the update ROM (I have heard March, but I wouldn't hold my breath!) I decided to use HSPL and update to 1.66 from the HTC website. Best decision I made!
Not only are all the little bugs fixed, I know have the 'proper' YouTube app back (beautiful!), Co-Pilot (trial version) plus a Windows Task Manager app (very useful!).
I did alot of reading before taking the plunge though, and made backups of backups, had a roll-back plan (admittedly untested) and followed each stage implicitly! But it was very striaghtforward due to the guys on this forum doing a fantastic job!

I never made one call on my T-Mobile HD2 before I flashed over to stock HTC ROM.
Years of HTC devices and operators ROMS told me not to wait until later!

bocsta said:
I never made one call on my T-Mobile HD2 before I flashed over to stock HTC ROM.
Years of HTC devices and operators ROMS told me not to wait until later!
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I did exactly the same!
As soon as I turned it on and saw that horrid T-Mobile logo, I turned it off again and flashed it with the HTC WWE Rom