HI,
I keep reading questions about ROM and flashing the phone, can someone explain what ROM is and flashing the phone please? I have tried search on this forum and get no answers. I have googled ROM and it tells me that it is a permanent storage chip, but if that's the case how come there are upgrades and why do people talk about erasing them?
Also, I've read that in the UK only ROM upgrades supplied by the service provider are allowed without invalidating warranty. If that's the case does this mean that you can't fiddle/tweak the phone without losing the warranty, or is there still plenty of tweaking you can do?
Finally, with UK phones can you still use apps and cabs from sites like this or would that invalidate warranty as well?
Cheers
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Technically a ROM chip is just that- a Read Only Memory chip that holds fixed information.
In Windows Mobile (and general phone) terms, the ROM has come to mean the software (or firmware) that is loaded into the ROM chip. So, for the HD2, if you look in Device Information you will see a ROM version. For release this was 1.43, but HTC have since released V1.48 and there are some engineering samples of V1.61 around as well.
Flashing the phone means the process of installing a new ROM image into the ROM chip. Official versions are executed using a ROM Update Utility (RUU) while the phone is connected to the PC, but 'cooked' versions are more often executed from the memory card.
In general, you can only update the ROM with one designed for that phone unless you make some changes to the BIOS, which involves installing a sub-program called Hard SPL. Once that is installed, you can then update the phone with any compatible ROM. Currently there is no Hard SPL available for the HD2, but the specialists are working on it
In the meantime there is a workaround to allow the loading of official ROM images from other locales or operators, but again this needs some specific changes being made to the memory card from which it is loaded.
The warranty situation is far from clear. Technically you should only update a device with a ROM image supplied by the operator, or by HTC if it was bought SIM free; however, the HD2 has been supplied pretty much the same as SIM free models by Vodafone and O2. Vodafone contradict themselves in their advice- one paragraph says you can install an 'official' update, but another paragraph says you can't.
Installing cooked ROMs (when they become available) would definitely invalidate any warranty.
snerkler said:
HI,
I keep reading questions about ROM and flashing the phone, can someone explain what ROM is and flashing the phone please? I have tried search on this forum and get no answers. I have googled ROM and it tells me that it is a permanent storage chip, but if that's the case how come there are upgrades and why do people talk about erasing them?
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Think of the ROM as the operating system of the phone. Both the software itself and the memory chips it is stored on are called ROM, but when you see people discussing ROMs here they will generally mean the software. So the software ROM (ie operating system) is stored on the phones ROM (ie Read Only Memory). It's called read only, but it's not - it can be erased and a new software ROM flashed to it.
snerkler said:
Also, I've read that in the UK only ROM upgrades supplied by the service provider are allowed without invalidating warranty. If that's the case does this mean that you can't fiddle/tweak the phone without losing the warranty, or is there still plenty of tweaking you can do?
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If you bought your phone from a service provider, they will have locked the ability to upgrade the ROM, to ensure that you can only install official upgrades issued by them. This is why many people are waiting for Hard SPL to be completed, as it removes this lock. However, you can tweak your phone and and install as much software as you want without affecting your warranty.
snerkler said:
Finally, with UK phones can you still use apps and cabs from sites like this or would that invalidate warranty as well?
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You can install all the apps and cabs you like without affecting your warranty. A simple hard reset will always return the phone to its 'fresh out of the box' state.
Installing HardSPL and custom roms will invalidate your warranty, but tweaks and cab files won't.
edit - Neil, you beat me to it
My previous phone, an O2 Xda Orbit 2 had a custom ROM and was twice repaired under warranty without problem or question from O2, although both these were hardware related problems.
omneity said:
My previous phone, an O2 Xda Orbit 2 had a custom ROM and was twice repaired under warranty without problem or question from O2, although both these were hardware related problems.
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I guess you were lucky - many people have had their warranty voided by HTC and/or a telco for having custom firmware installed.
Many thanks for the advice, very helpful
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hi... i`m new here... i have a question...
if i flash or unlock to be available to all networks an Orange SPV M700 i`ll lost my warranty from it?
I'm not a lawyer or anything but I'm pretty sure that you void your warranty flashing your device, provided that you're not a certified support representative. Also you risk turning your device into an expensive brick.
My 2 cents....
laudanum
laudanum said:
Also you risk turning your device into an expensive brick.
laudanum
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While it's important for anyone to realise that not correctly flashing a phone can brick it and flashing with a bad ROM can do the same I'm sure many agree with me that there is no point scaremongering, either.
I have surely invalidated my warranty by flashing my phone and SIM unlocking it. Currently I flash a new ROM every week or so, to test and report problems with WM6 ROMS to encourage and help development.
Must have flashed my Trinity 30 times.
It is far from an expensive brick...still
If you're curious enough, you'll just hope that go ahead and flash. If you're going to go down the SIM unlock - I would recommend using this first: http://server2.dimonvideo.ru/uploads/public/users/lvsw/Trinity/HardSPL/Hard-SPL.zip
this is "Hard-SPL" and will enable you to use hardward buttons to go into bootloader and reload a ROM even if an upgrade fails - thereby rendering your phone virtually "unbrickable".
Great advice. But I don't think he was trying to scare anyone, just warn them. Friendly warnings are ALWAYS helpful.
Also, an important item to note, another benefit of using HardSPL is you can get your phone back to "spec" if you need to send it in for warranty repair. So warranty woes are all but gone.
nealed said:
While it's important for anyone to realise that not correctly flashing a phone can brick it and flashing with a bad ROM can do the same I'm sure many agree with me that there is no point scaremongering, either.
I have surely invalidated my warranty by flashing my phone and SIM unlocking it. Currently I flash a new ROM every week or so, to test and report problems with WM6 ROMS to encourage and help development.
Must have flashed my Trinity 30 times.
It is far from an expensive brick...still
If you're curious enough, you'll just hope that go ahead and flash. If you're going to go down the SIM unlock - I would recommend using this first: http://server2.dimonvideo.ru/uploads/public/users/lvsw/Trinity/HardSPL/Hard-SPL.zip
this is "Hard-SPL" and will enable you to use hardward buttons to go into bootloader and reload a ROM even if an upgrade fails - thereby rendering your phone virtually "unbrickable".
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ok..thanks for advices
but if i go to unlock my sim to a certified support ? i`ll lost my warranty ?
If you just want a SIM unlock, and are willing to pay for that, it won't invalidate the warranty. The best tool for that is IMEICheck which costs £20 and includes full CID unlocking for when you want to update the ROM to a non-OEM version.
Flashing with a new Radio or OS ROM will invalidate. Some of the 'free' unlock tools work by flashing the radio ROM, thereby invalidating the warranty in the process.
ok tnx guyz i understand tnx again for help
I got my Vodafone1605 with wm5 installed. Do I lose my warranty(I bought it from Vodafone) if I apply official HTC WM6 upgrade for Hermes?
in a word, no.
Few things you should do first tho.
First off, if you want to use your phone with other network sim cards try unlocking it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
Dont CID unlock though, cos that will remove your warranty. Basicly follow the install procedure, but when it asks what you want to do just tick network unlock.
Then you should install Hard SPL v7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
Its a very very simple install that will not screw your warranty, but will allow you to install any rom, be it official or a cooked one and will make it much less likely to brick your phone.
You will probably get bored off the official rom really quickly, so its worth looking at a cooked rom, they offer better features, run faster, take up less room and look a lot better.
Heres two I would recommend.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349338
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359458
and keep an eye on this, looks gooood
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363782
One thing you should remember, there is always a risk of ****ing up your phone when upgrading the rom, radio or anything. Hard SPL removes 99.99% of that risk, but there is still always a chance. But there is guides here of what do if anything happens.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick
Any other questions have a search on the forum, if you cant find anything ask, someone should help.
Hi,
There are no official software up dates for the V1605 available from Vodafone. If you do decide to change the software to something that isn't supported by Vodafone you will in fact invalidate the warranty.
We have explained this in more detail here.
Techgirl
Vodafone UK
Funny how my device was replaced under warranty after id flashed it a dozen times, I just installed the original rom again and now one said a thing.
does the hard spl backup the original rom?
no, hardspl allows you install different roms. If you want to revert to the original rom you can. Its on this site.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
Its one of the two english vodafone ones....
I found a CD in the phone package and there are windows mobile 5 geniune stickers and eula and stuff like that, can the original rom be there?
Not likely.
so where can I get the original ROM? It's czech vodafone rom
Czech rom doesnt seem to be on this site, it will be around somewhere tho.
I just managed to get the original rom. So, if I flash now, are you absolutely sure that after the "flash the original rom back" thing they won't recognize anything at the repair service?
PLS, quick reply, I'm deciding whether to get a cashback for the SDHC or to keep it
AVN37 said:
And if I copy THE WHOLE content of the memory card to my HDD, flash some wm6 rom, will it be recognized if I just put those old files back? It won't be like the original, will it?
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The contents of your memory card will still be threr after you flash a newer ROM to the device, the memory card isnt changed at all.
I would recommend you take some time to read through the WIKI PAGES on the hermes before continuing with any upgrades.
Hello
I noticed a very annoying bug at my phone: sometimes when I end a call the phone function stalls (the icon on the upper bar shows conversation in progress)
The only way to use the phone function again is to soft reset it. Lately I get the same problem but without the icon that shows conversation in progress. During this time all the incoming calls are not prompted. Basically on the caller side my phone "rings" but my phone doesn't even notice the incoming call. This prevents me from receiving very important calls that affect my business.
I cannot upgrade my ROM (1.14.479.3 ) since there is no official version for my region.
Any of you have this problem ? Shall I bring it to service ?
Please tell me your thoughts
SR
seems like a software issue, which region is your phone in? have you tried updating your software through HTC website?
For Romania there is no official version released. I cant upgrade ROM/Radio without losing my warranty.
i had the same problem after installed a hot fix from HTC, even hard reset and reinstall the ICR program the phone just lockup when I made a call. I can talk in that call but the whole phone just won't response to any keys or touch screen. After 2 days playing around with countless hard reset I decided to flash the same ROM from computer and the problem seems gone now.
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For Romania there is no official version released. I cant upgrade ROM/Radio without losing my warranty.
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Sure you can You are currently using a WWE ROM right? You can use USPL or HSPL to flash a newer official WWE ROM. In the event you need to return the phone just flash the original ROM (and SPL) back to your phone and they will never know. The original ROM you are running now is available on the Wiki, and here is a direct link. If you need help flashing ROM's you can read the guide in my signature and post questions in that thread
On a side note- I have had that issue before as well. It does seem like a bug in some software on the ROM as flashing different ROM's seems to make it go away (or reappear )
My phone's screen stopped responding few weeks ago and I brought it to service. They changed its front side with a brand new one (I am not sure if the screen only because I even get better audio quality during calls). I am telling you this just to underline that when I took it back from service the ROM was flashed again (same version though) because the menus used to be in English and now they are in Romanian. So if I am not mistaking my hard resets + services ROM flashing (into the same version though ) didn't fix this issue.
@Digital Outcast:
I am aware that I am able to use a newer ROM. I read the wiki and I know how to do it but if for some reason what I mentioned above (screen completely stopped responding and it was changed) happens while the new ROM is on the phone I will lose my warranty.
Since I opened this issue I changed the sim with a newer one. The old one was 7 years old...
Thank you for your feedback and for letting me know I am not the only phone owner having this annoying bug.
As stated by Tnyynt on another thread
Official updates go by as original ROM, they install without HardSPL if there is an update for your version of the device, so if you have an Official ROM which you have flashed, there's no need to worry for warranty.
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Basically, any of the official rom updates for your device available on HTC or wiki can be flashed to your phone without HSPL or USPL and will not void warranty.
I tried with this one but when I insert my serial it says its not available for my region.
http://www.htc.com/www/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=179&act=sd&cat=2
Still I managed to download it using some serial I found on the web. But when I started the flashing process it says its not meant for my phone and aborted
Is your phone branded? Did you get it new? I ask because it doesn't look like it was a WWE device...
I bought it brand new from an online store. I didn't buy it from a provider like Vodafone or Orange.
One of my colleagues bought it from Vodafone few days ago and he has exactly the same ROM version as I have. None of us is able to download the previously mentioned ROM version from HTC website using the imei.
RUU_BlackStone_HTC_WWE_EastEurope_1.14.479.3_Radio _52.49a.25.26_1.09.25.14_Ship is the ROM you currently have on your phone. There are no "official" updates for your particular CID.
Your real only current choice if you want to flash a newer HTC ROM would be to use USPL or HSPL and flash another official WWE ROM. You could always flash back the original if you needed to return the phone for warranty purposes. Sorry bud.
Thanks for summing it up for me.
PS: changing the sim with a newer one did not help, in case somone wants to do this.
I recently bought my HTC HD2 from Vodafone UK, it has a ROM 1.43.405.1 and I cannot update the ROM from HTC website because after insert my SN in the validation box it tells me I cannot get the update....
What should I do?
I saw many ROMs on 4shared but I think they not the same in the HTC site...If they are which one of the should I get for my HTC and why? Will I be able to use my phone with my UK Sim?
Help please...
Windows on your ROM is licensed software, and you bought the license implicitly with your Leo, therefore is it "not possible" to just change ROM.
Having said that , google the forum a bit for SSPL and/or HSPL. there are several (graphical) guides that will tell you how to use them (sticky threads).
good luck!
anyone? someone? help me!
dXsL said:
Windows on your ROM is licensed software, and you bought the license implicitly with your Leo, therefore is it "not possible" to just change ROM.
Having said that , google the forum a bit for SSPL and/or HSPL. there are several (graphical) guides that will tell you how to use them (sticky threads).
good luck!
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I have done the HSPL on LEO now....I just have no idea what ROM to put on now....
From this list: w w w .4shared.com/dir/22189940/b8552fa0/Shipped_Leo_ROMs.html
Which one should I use? :s
My Leo has ROM 1.43.405.1 Vodafone UK which came on it....what I do now?
Thanks
It all comes down to what features you want . Have a look around.
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It all comes down to what features you want . Have a look around.
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I thought that too but on 4shared they do not describe the features.
Any idea where can I see the features?
To put on other non mobile brand ROM, I must unlock the mobile first, right?
If that is the case, how do I unlock it?
If I put one ROM in the mobile and them upload another one will it delete the features from the one that was on the phone previously?
flashing roms is not connected to thee phone being network locked. it will still be locked after you flash it.
look for a world wide english rom version 1.66 (with 1.66 and wwe I'm the name)
samsamuel said:
flashing roms is not connected to thee phone being network locked. it will still be locked after you flash it.
look for a world wide english rom version 1.66 (with 1.66 and wwe I'm the name)
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Thanks
Btw after the rom update, if I reset my mobile will it be rested to the factory one or the updated version?
Durv84 said:
Thanks
Btw after the rom update, if I reset my mobile will it be rested to the factory one or the updated version?
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No, doing a hard reset will only ever restore it to the rom you last flashed.
To get back to 'as you bought it' you need to find the rom that matches your device.
(for example in your case, voda UK, you find this rom
RUU_Leo_Vodafone_UK_1.43.405.1_Radio_Signed_15.26. 50.07U_2.04.50.22_2_Ship.exe
)
If you then need to get back to stock, and remove HSPL, you can do it with that rom. (not quite as simple as just flashing it, , see the HSPL thread for how to remove HSPL)
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I thought that too but on 4shared they do not describe the features.
Any idea where can I see the features?
To put on other non mobile brand ROM, I must unlock the mobile first, right?
If that is the case, how do I unlock it?
If I put one ROM in the mobile and them upload another one will it delete the features from the one that was on the phone previously?
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4shared.com/dir/22189940/b8552fa0/Shipped_Leo_ROMs.html are only official Shipped roms mate,i never use them anymore couse i love cooked roms from the best chefs in here,and if you got hspl on your phone why dont you try a cooked rom,Look Around you will find a rom suitable for your phone
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4shared.com/dir/22189940/b8552fa0/Shipped_Leo_ROMs.html are only official Shipped roms mate,i never use them anymore couse i love cooked roms from the best chefs in here,and if you got hspl on your phone why dont you try a cooked rom,Look Around you will find a rom suitable for your phone
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OH OK....i will have a look at the kitchen then....
Like I mentioned I am a noob lol....I got here just by trying to understand why couldnt I update my ROM.
One more question, each ROM completely cleans the before it, right? The features do not stuck up (add on)?
I would advise AGAINST blindly leeching any ROM from any online file sharer.
check this forum, read a bit, and select a ROM from a chef that has cooked something you like (speed, looks like stock, removed HTC, removed bloatware, etc etc). I've tried many, and almost all on this forum are excellent (some are more excellent than others though)..
Flashing a ROM completely cleans ALL settings on your phone, all data is gone, besides whatever is on your SD card.
same if you select Settings/Wipe Device option from the start menu.
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Flashing a ROM completely cleans ALL settings on your phone, all data is gone, besides whatever is on your SD card.
same if you select Settings/Wipe Device option from the start menu.
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Be aware that whilst flashing wipes all your old data/settings and such like, it doesn't necessarily wipe the old rom before flashing the new one, just flashes over it.
Roms can be different file sizes, (just compare a few RUU_Signed.nbh file sizes) so sometimes files can be left over from the previous rom. If you start getting random resets and freezes when you didnt before, it could be a sign of a bloated rom. Have a read of the mtty sticky. It looks a little overwhelming at first read, but dead simple really, and basically formats your rom before you flash the new rom.
my 2 pence here...
get the official WWE 1.66 ROM and see if that helps the phone, the 1.43 VF ROM is crap and both 1.48 and 1.66 are miles better so first thing is to give these a go. If, after successfully installing it, you wanna try something else then do so...
and read the n00b thread at the top of this forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
it tells you what to do, with videos if needed...
Hi, I have the same vf handset and was sick of the crappy ROM, I upgraded yesterday after weeks of research and was surprised how easy it was.
However, having had a day to test out my new 1.66 ROM, I have unfortunately found some problems and part of me think maybe I should have waited a little longer for vf to release it officially.
I'm hoping you guys will be able to help again as it may just need different tweaks to the settings...
1. The first problem is that Opera is slightly different, the settings tab has changed, it no longer allows zooming (including pinch zooming) and the pages are not displayed as full width. I have played with all the setting I can in Opera and BsB Tweaks but no joy.
2. I can no longer access TV catchup through Skyfire. The advertisement plays as normal and then it says "non-UK, unauthorised". Is this because it is a WWE ROM and not a UK one? Why isn't there a specific UK ROM like there was for 1.48?
3. Although the alarm volume bug seems to have been fixed, the alarm popup doesn't come up any more when it goes off, making it very difficult to "snooze" or "dismiss".
4. Several error messages have come up relating to the actual phone app, messaging app and audiomanager. The phone has also crashed and gone slow a bit and overall the messaging app is a little more buggy despite it appearing to send all messages.
Any advice would be much appreciated as this does seem as though it could be a much better ROM with some great benefits.
1.48 was also a WWE ROM - there hasn't been a set UK one other than ISP-based ones
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1.48 was also a WWE ROM - there hasn't been a set UK one other than ISP-based ones
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Fair enough. I was just going by what it was implying on the HTC support page. 1.48 specifically says UK whereas 1.66 simply says WWE and makes no mention of UK.
Does anyone have any advice on the issues I'm having?
Also, if I wanted to revert back to the vf 1.43 ROM using the SD card to remove HSPL, how do I know the file I've downloaded from the shared folders is exactly the same as I had before? I read that it is more risky flashing without HSPL as you have less chance of fixing it if something goes wrong, does this also go for the method of reverting back using the SD card as it is removing the HSPL?
Hi,
I have just bought a HTC HD2 from T-mobile to realise I can't upgrade the ROM through the official HTC website.
I would like to know from Virgin Costumers whether they have tried to upgrade the ROM of their HTC HD2 through the Official HTC website and whether it worked.
I am asking this because I am still on the trial period and also because of warranty issues if I try to upgrade trough another route apart from the T-mobile's...
So, the question is...
Have you got a HTC HD2 from virgin? Have you upgrade the ROM through the HTC website?
If it's vendor locked you'll need to flash HSPL to install a stock or custom ROM...see this thread for details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
If I do install another ROM they say I loose the warranty...
As I still am in the trial period I could just return the mobile. But for this I need to know whether the HTC HD2 from virging is also branded or not... So I can go and get one from them and do the upgrades myself through HTC website... Withought loosing any warranty.
You can revert back to the original SPL/ROM if you need to return it for any reason...
As for the Virgin HD2, only way is putting the S/N into the ROM download page on HTCs support site and see if it allows a download. If not, it's locked
There's at least a dozen of threads about it. Don't be lazy and use search!
You won't loose the warranty, you can flash the phone back to it's original state in case you need to send it back for repairs.
You can download the original T-Mobile ROM from in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577717 so you can always go back if you need warranty work! I was reluctant to flash, but I did it from the original T-Mobile ROM and it has transfromed my HD2... I'm using MIRI 6.5 ROM and it is awesome, fast, stable, more RAM (with the right radio) and best of all, Youtube... GO ahead and do it. You think the HD2 is good now, wait until you unleash some of it's real potential....
Yes, that is why I am asking if there is someone who is a virgin costumer to help me with this...
I need to know if they have tried and what the outcome was.
About the warranty... The problem is that if I upgrade to another ROM and the mobile has a hardware fault that doesn't allow me to downgrade to the original ROM I suppose I would loose the warranty. This is a risk I may not want to take...
I have been talking to the tmobile technical people a lot after I realised I couldn't upgrade to a new ROM via HTC... Very annoying to know it is not possible whatsoever.
and as proof, I flashed mine back to the original ROM earlier this week. Search the ROM forum for posts by a member called 'football' who posted links to the TMo UK ROMs.
The flash back to the original ROM worked just fine, BUT it's a rubbish ROM so I'm back on 1.66
lol @ everyone pushing for the HSPL option, , , , lets not forget you cant uninstal HSPL if, for instance, the sd card reader has failed, , how would you get that fixed on warranty??
I'm not knocking it, HSPL is the first thing i did, just pointing out that restoring the warranty isn't foolproof.
in this post here a virgin user claims the phone is unlocked to the HTC website.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=632892
I didn't want to cause such turmoil...
Just want to know, from a Virgin customer, if they have managed to install the ROM update through the HTC website... if when they add their mobile serial number they are given the download option or they are barred with this message: "Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device."
Thanks guys for the help
My son is on Virgin and his is unlocked out of the box I'am on T-Mobile (locked ) ) I am still deciding whether to update to one of the new roms on xda del. or hang out for an official rom from T-Mobile. Which I believe will be released soon with a big?????.
samsamuel said:
lol @ everyone pushing for the HSPL option, , , , lets not forget you cant uninstal HSPL if, for instance, the sd card reader has failed, , how would you get that fixed on warranty??
I'm not knocking it, HSPL is the first thing i did, just pointing out that restoring the warranty isn't foolproof.
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I had a flash fail this week. When I started the phone it booted to a black screen with some sort of warning triangle. Somehow HSPL had been removed in the botched flash and the SPL was back to 1.42.000, so putting a LEOIMG.nbh on my SD card just resulted in a 'Not Allowed' message being displayed.
However, I was still able to reflash the original TMo ROM from my PC via USB using the exe that you can find on the ROM forum. I would expect that this will only work with the exe for a ROM issued by your network though, so make sure you have that saved before you flash anything.
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Somehow HSPL had been removed in the botched flash and the SPL was back to 1.42.000,
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No doubt you flashed an official rom from the sd card, that is the only way HSPL can be removed. I really really advise people against using sd card for anything except your phones original rom. So easy to make an error.
Virgin UK HD2 is unlocked
I am a Virgin UK customer and my HD2 is indeed unlocked. When I first boot I had to select Virgin Mobile from a long list that included all the major carriers. I have no problems in updating ROMS. Their customer support is without doubt the best I have ever experienced. I do not work for them. My brother is with T-Mobile, his phone is locked down with Crap software. I am SOOOO glad I am not with them. Just check their forums. They are still on ROM 1.43 from october... no YouTube... other stuff missing and buggy... Disgrace.
Original poster: if you want the phone on contract from T-Mobile but unbranded, you could buy it through some third-party mobile-phone store chain like Car Phone Warehouse or Mobile Phones Direct. Their phones are all unbranded.
If you want to install the HTC ROM without using HSPL you could always use a gold card to flash it.
constructorx said:
I am a Virgin UK customer and my HD2 is indeed unlocked. When I first boot I had to select Virgin Mobile from a long list that included all the major carriers. I have no problems in updating ROMS. Their customer support is without doubt the best I have ever experienced. I do not work for them. My brother is with T-Mobile, his phone is locked down with Crap software. I am SOOOO glad I am not with them. Just check their forums. They are still on ROM 1.43 from october... no YouTube... other stuff missing and buggy... Disgrace.
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I must agree with the above. I am with T-Mobile, got my HD2 at the end of January and it had ROM 1.43. They also stripped out YouTube and Co-Pilot! I downloaded a poor-man's version of YouTube as discussed in other threads (i.e. using the IE browser on the phone to download the cab file) and thought I was cool, but with T-Mobile taking an age to release the update ROM (I have heard March, but I wouldn't hold my breath!) I decided to use HSPL and update to 1.66 from the HTC website. Best decision I made!
Not only are all the little bugs fixed, I know have the 'proper' YouTube app back (beautiful!), Co-Pilot (trial version) plus a Windows Task Manager app (very useful!).
I did alot of reading before taking the plunge though, and made backups of backups, had a roll-back plan (admittedly untested) and followed each stage implicitly! But it was very striaghtforward due to the guys on this forum doing a fantastic job!
I never made one call on my T-Mobile HD2 before I flashed over to stock HTC ROM.
Years of HTC devices and operators ROMS told me not to wait until later!
bocsta said:
I never made one call on my T-Mobile HD2 before I flashed over to stock HTC ROM.
Years of HTC devices and operators ROMS told me not to wait until later!
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I did exactly the same!
As soon as I turned it on and saw that horrid T-Mobile logo, I turned it off again and flashed it with the HTC WWE Rom