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Backup Battery did not recharge any more

Hello,
My backup battery did not recharge any more. Now, I can not even turn it on (the main battery is fully charged). In my area, there is no replacement.
So, what should I do now to make it work again?
Thanks

your post is a llittle tricky.. how did you know that the backup battery did not charge? and the main battery is full? when you can't even turn your XDA on?
have you tried to hard reset your phone? it might just be a software problem..

I had a trip for 2 days without my xda, and when I came back, I could not turn it on, I guessed that the battery is empty. So, I put it on the cradle, nothing happened. I noticed there were a socket on the cradle to put the second battery. I removed the main battery and put the main battery on the cradle. The led showed in red indicating the main battery were charging. And I put my xda on the cradle again, the red led showed too. After a while, I noticed the led changed from red to blue. It indicated that the main battery is full. I got the main battery out of the cradle. But my xda still in red. I tried for several time, nothing changed. And I put the main battery into my xda. It turned on. And there were a message saying "The backup battery is extremely low, please change or recharge as in the manual". I ran the battery application, it said that the main battery were 100% and the backup battery were 0%. The software started to install like to make a hard-reset. When it finished installing. It were soft-reset automaticely as usual. But the backlight of screen is turn off, and the picture look dummy. That ware exactly the time I can not turn my xda on anymore.
Now, there is something so strange with my xda. When I put it on the cradle without the main battery, the led lights in red in about 20 minutes and then turn off automaticly. But when I put it with the main battery, nothing happen.
I did try for hundred of times, but nothing changed. I guess that my xda is dead.
So sad.....

Maybe your XDA has a problem in its charge pins.
You should let it checked by someone.
I had the same problem as you before, but I exchanged that XDA with the new one :roll:

did you actually hard reset your phone yet? something like this happened to me two nights ago.. my phone went low on batt so i charged it and it was ok then so i turned it off so that it could charge better.. when i came back to check, i cant turn it on anymore so i disconnected it from the charger.. i took off the battery and placed it back.. but my phone didnt respond anyway.. no lights no nothing! my last resort was to HARD RESET my phone.. by placing back the battery and holding the power button while i press the reset button with the stylus.. and voila it's up again..

thanks for everyone, I did find out the problem, that is the backup battery,
I openned my xda and remove the backup battery, It works just like before. I also experience that If the backup battery is dead then we must remove or change the new one then the phone will work. It will not boot or charge with the dead one inside.

Why take out the battery and charge it separately ?
Just put the battery back to xdaII and place the xdaII in the cradle and charge it together. :roll:

im very sorry for my late reply.. if only you recieved it earlier you didnt have to open your XDA and void your warranty.. but it's good that it's ok now!

same here
i have exactly the same problem with my backup battery...i just got my xda 2i today and I tried to charge it up the main battery quickly went up to 100% but the backup battery has stuck into 75% and after a while the orange light become green as if it has charged. It takes either a soft reset or I need to disconnect (either from cable or cradle) and connect again in order to become orange and probably to start charging again...
what's wrong with the damn thing?
yanni

What is wrong with my Jasjar(s)?

Desperate for help, please read and give advice!
Had a Jasjar for almost a year. Battery started to weaken, so went on gizmos2go.com and bought a replacement. Already with the old original battery, Jasjar started to act weird: power meter suddenly dropped down to 12% and in two minutes back up 80%. With the replacement battery things got much worse. Restarted, insufficient battery power message came on often, car charger did not charge it at all and finally when I took off the wall charger, the charging icon would not change back to power meter until reset.
So I took it back to the shop (in Europe) before the warranty expires. They sent it off to Italy to get it repaired at I-Mate, suggesting it will need a new motherboard. 30 days passed, phone did not get back, so I got a brand new one with a newer ROM, without the original battery.
At first all was good for less than a day. I reinstalled all my software and started to get a message that there is not sufficient power to supply the SD card operation. I paniced, took the card out, no issues for the rest of the day. But this morning green solid led light on (battery charged). I unplug it, try to turn it on, screen blank, green led on. Reset: screen dead red solid led light. Plug in the charger and starts charging from 0%. Charges in one hour and now it seems to be fine. For now…
Anyone had similar issues? Solutions?
Can it be the battery? Is there a way to check it at home?
Can it be a malfunction of the SD card? There is no visual physical problem and works fine in my pc.
Can it be the charger? No name car charger, pc USB cable?
Can it be any sw?
Please, help! Thank you,
IZ

I think its the issue with ur battery coz in ur earlier case and the newer one ur battery was common which had the same problem not with ur sd card , try use with ne of ur friends battery for a day the things will pretty much b narrowed down with the problem .

Help, Technical problem.

When turning on my trinity, I have the welcome screen "running" up and having a white stripe in the middle, well just look at the picture.
I just cant turn on my trinity.
If somone have idea how to fix this, please.
thanks in advance.

I'm having the exact same problem for weeks now!!
The first thing i tried was removing the sd card, and replacing the battery,
this seems to fix the problem for a small period of time (up to 1 day).
Don't be fooled, the problem will return when you need your phone the most
Reflashing the device with the same/different ROM has no effect!
Being an electronics engineer, i carefully checked all the connectors inside the screen, and everything is connected as it should be..
If anyone has any suggestions.... ?

Sjerby, one thing you can try to temporary revive your phone is this:
-Remove the back cover and take out the battery
-Plug in the charger, do NOT use the usb cable!!
-Put the battery back in, but don't try to power on the phone
-Leave the phone to charge for at least 20-30min
-Power it back on. You might have to push the power button twice for it to respond.
My findings are that the device somehow uses more power than the battery can
supply, but using a brand new fully charged original battery does not fix the problem!

ummm... the phone DOES work once in a while but it get stuck fast after, somtimes it just show's a black screen.
and i have no charger i use usb cable to charge it, i forgot the charger in a vecation ><
and just for the record the camera is having problems aswell if it makes to turn on

Just want to share about Magician battery (s*cks!)

Hello,
Last night I am charging my HTC Magician until 100%. Yeah, full. Then I unplug it from the cord. I've check the battery meter, 100%. Then I using it for some phone call, internet and sms. The remaining battery is 96%. But, I dont know why, myself is checking the meter again. It show charging !!! What? I am not plugging it into power cord! But the backup battery show "_Charging" ... hmm .. what does the underscore character meaning on the backup battery? It is never charged, I always look it 100%. Thinks it an error, I restart the device using psshutxp.
But, what? Still black screen?
Hm, then I remove the battery and reinsert again. Not turning on. OW ow...it seems bad. I retry remove and reinsert, same. Plugging the power charger, the LED turning on RED. Hmmm...on each battery, RED is initial charging, when battery discharged fully, hm?
BUT I'VE CHARGING until 100% approximate 45 minutes ago!!
Trying again to remove and reinsert the battery without power charger.
It turns on! Wow! BUT ...
I am using Cotulla HTCMAG_WWE_O2 rom. When we do hardreset, cotulla rom have a progress bar, written "Erasing...please wait" right?
AND IT APPEARS!
OMG, I think the PDA is 'restored'. Hey, PDA, I dont do reset!
Damn ... I've lost all of my SMS and contacts ... bad news ... But I have backup contacts via activesync so dont need to worry. About SMS? Yeah, they're gone. Then I sleep. Hmm...SMS messages collected since aug 08 lost just because of this f*cking battery.
This morning, I want to going to work.
Hey, the PDA is dead again!
Try remove and reinsert, then press power button, LED turn on with violet color! (i think it was the combination of bluetooth LED and red coloured LED).
Trying several times, and then turn on again. Restored again.
It seems the battery needs to replace (ABSOLUTELY...since got this PDA, it turn off when 28% battery).
THE END..
Will going to a store to find a replacement battery.

I am using Cotulla HTCMAG_ROM_WWE_O5 Rom.
When I charging my HTC Magician until 100% the LED never change to green color.
Anyone have same problem with me???

yes, mine too. may be it rom's problem.

sounds a lot like you have a dead battery, try getting a new one, that should fix the problem.
I've had batteries that did all sorts of crazy stuff when they were dying.

if batery voltage is going down to 3.2V or less that mean it dying? I looked with powerDetect and when battery remaining less then 30% voltage is going down. and if it is less than 3.1V My magician turn off and I should turn on again. If I try turn on phone on less than 10% my magician turn off too. So that mean I should change my battery?

I don't know bout voltages etc. but if your battery is not holding charge well and/or is shutting off suddenly (mine used to do it at around 40%), then it is time for a new battery.
I recommend this one http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.23962 (if you search magician you can also find the 1800mAh version.
the thing about these are they are fakes made by dealextremem, so they haven't been lying around for as long as some of the bateries on ebay etc.
on top of that they are really cheap with free shipping to boot.

but these batteries quality same than original? Because I don't want change battery or have explosion as I hear in news about other not original batteries

It is funny, people are beta testing a free stuff. Yet they complain like they've paid zillions for it. Sometimes those who complains most are those who intentionally sell Cotulla's works on their puny mobile phone shops. Instead of complaining, try contributing by experimenting on the software.
Keep it up Cotulla, Since you began the 6.1 you've been beaten and crucified for telling the world that it would work. Many thinks Cotulla is crazy and is dreaming. I salute one great Russian guy who once branded GAY and Crazy. Now he re written history, several times.
Let's just be thankful,
Salam.

you know, my battery used to turn off at 50%. because sometimes it uses it for backup battery so your data is not lost completely quickly. u should buy htc just like i did because the battery is very good. and by the way does anyone have a cooked rom for htc blackstone cause i want 2 upgrade it to wm6.5

Let Andriod die now have a paper wheight

ok here is the problem.
4 nights ago i forgot to plug in my hd2 while android was running and the battery died.
the next morning i went to turn it on and the screen no longer turns on but the phone does boot. the battery doesnt charge, status light doesnt either, end key doesnt work, when i answer calls no noise can be heard or made.
any hope?

Im guessing you cant run bootloader?
Maybe this is a warrenty jobby

If you know someone with another HD2, Try swapping the battery.

chrisizzle492 said:
ok here is the problem.
4 nights ago i forgot to plug in my hd2 while android was running and the battery died.
the next morning i went to turn it on and the screen no longer turns on but the phone does boot. the battery doesnt charge, status light doesnt either, end key doesnt work, when i answer calls no noise can be heard or made.
any hope?
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does it enter in bootloader mode?
retry flashing wm rom+radio

chrisizzle492 said:
i went to turn it on and the screen no longer turns on but the phone does boot. the battery doesnt charge, status light doesnt either, end key doesnt work, when i answer calls no noise can be heard or made.
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Hi Chris,
Please eleborate/clarify your OP, because I don't think anyone gets this... At least i don't! You say the screen doesn't turn on but the phone boots?! How do you figure that? Your device is actually on because you can receive/answer calls!?! :S
Sounds like your device has just BSOD (Black Screen of Death) which is discussed quite a lot here. Just press reset button or pull the battery (please tell me you have tried that before...).
If your device IS NOT powered on, please try this:
Does the device vibrate shortly when pressing the End-button? If so you should leave it connected to the charger for longer. If battery has drained too much it takes a while for the device to allow it to power itself up (prevention of overdrainage, which Lithium-batteries don't like very much).
Do you charge through USB, or with the supplied charger? I've had this before trying to charge it with a (different brand) microUSB charger. Turned out most chargers only give out 500mAh, whilst my normal charger (and car-charger) give out 1000mAh i believe. That might help.
You can order a cheap replacement battery from China (i got mine with dockingstation), which is already charged about 60% (for storage purposes).
BTW if your problem is fixed, please add the prefix [FIXED] or [SOLVED] to your topics title.

shufflez said:
Hi Chris,
Please eleborate/clarify your OP, because I don't think anyone gets this... At least i don't! You say the screen doesn't turn on but the phone boots?! How do you figure that? Your device is actually on because you can receive/answer calls!?! :S
Sounds like your device has just BSOD (Black Screen of Death) which is discussed quite a lot here. Just press reset button or pull the battery (please tell me you have tried that before...).
If your device IS NOT powered on, please try this:
Does the device vibrate shortly when pressing the End-button? If so you should leave it connected to the charger for longer. If battery has drained too much it takes a while for the device to allow it to power itself up (prevention of overdrainage, which Lithium-batteries don't like very much).
Do you charge through USB, or with the supplied charger? I've had this before trying to charge it with a (different brand) microUSB charger. Turned out most chargers only give out 500mAh, whilst my normal charger (and car-charger) give out 1000mAh i believe. That might help.
You can order a cheap replacement battery from China (i got mine with dockingstation), which is already charged about 60% (for storage purposes).
BTW if your problem is fixed, please add the prefix [FIXED] or [SOLVED] to your topics title.
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i have restarted many times.
i use the wall charger.
but why would the phone boot but not turn on the screen or have the mic work?

remove your sd card and the battery. you may have to hit the rest button on the back after you plug the battery back in as well, but as long as you have the sd card out it should come back on. try plugging the phone into a charger and then remove the battery as well sometimes it'll wake it up so to speak. it's just a matter of playing with it. mine did the exact same thing and i freaked out for a little bit.
now if after all this it doesn't work and you've played with it for a while then yeah, best of luck to you =\. but whatever you do in playing with the battery and the charger, keep the sd card out until you can boot into winmo.
EDIT: never mind, i thought the phone wasn't booting. i misunderstood, but i went back and reread the original post. try reflashing your rom if you're in winmo and experiencing those issues. or take the sd card out and reboot.

i would suggest making an backup, as your phone turns on you should be able to estaplish a remote-connection with some (3rd-party-)software and do a hardreset.
if this wont work i would recommend setting it back to factory default (revert hspl if you have one and install stock rom) and send it in for warranty.
seems to be some major problem...
All this steps should be possible without screen turning on (working touchscreen may be needed for backup, but flashing doent need screen input)
if drive-mode is default for your usb connection and holding you from flashing you can do a hardreset and afterwards active sync will be default again and you can establish an active sync connection and flash

check if any of the pins that contact the battery are bended or broken, try to avoid removing the battery when you have to reset your hd2 because the pins are fragile

similar thing happened to me just last night!
I tried the jmz dual boot last night and I was nearly out of battery. I didnt look at any instructions I just installed it and restarted the phone to check out the new toy. it finally got done loading I chose android right away and I was walking towards the bedroom. when I went to see if android had fully booted and plug in the phone I had nothing! It was off. I decided that the battery must have died so I tried to turn it on and all that happened was the tmobile flash screen came up for a second and then it went right off, I got so desperate that I was going to do a hard reset but that wouldnt even work! the boot loader screen would just shut right off. I was suggested to try another battery we had at the house and bang it fired right up I took a wiff of my other battery and I dont know what happened but I think I let the magic smoke out cuz it is fried!

chrisizzle492 said:
ok here is the problem.
4 nights ago i forgot to plug in my hd2 while android was running and the battery died.
the next morning i went to turn it on and the screen no longer turns on but the phone does boot. the battery doesnt charge, status light doesnt either, end key doesnt work, when i answer calls no noise can be heard or made.
any hope?
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hello friend...i have a problem similar to this. basically when my phone is in android which i use alot if it dies in android, when i reboot it it will turn on for about a second to see my splash screen then turn itself off (the battery is obviously flat). so i plug my charger in and it stays on now but doesnt indicate charging....i boot it into windows mobile and the batt just stays at 0% but its still working. however once i unplug it it will die.....its like the battery is not in the phone. luckily i have two batteries and a dock which charges batteries, so i replaced the battery and everything works fine. once the battery that died in android was fully charged i tried it again and it was fine.................im guesing the moral to this story is dont let your phone die in android mode

I do notice my HD2 runs hotter while in android than while it runs in Windows.
I am not sure if that's an issue to this, which is why I never mentioned about it being hotter. Although my HD2 is noticeable hotter, it never gets to a point that I think I should unplug the USB due to overheating concern...
Just a few inputs from passed experience
I use TMOUS Stock 2.13.531.1 WWE ROM
2.12.50.2_2 radio (not stock)

k going to tmobile today to see if they have any extra batteries i can try.
then ill update

i went to tmobile. and while i was there i noticed the screen was turning on but very dim without backlight (barely noticable). but the rep helping me did not notice and i let it stay that way because tmobile is sending me a new refurbished phone as long as i send the old one (and the rep was totally cool he uses xda also and said they wont check my software and if they do they wont ask for the phone back). he also let me get insurance in case this happens again, instead i will just say its lost. so i basically killed 2 birds with one stone