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Should I apply the HTC ROM?

Folks, I am an old ROM for my UK purchased HD2 1.48.405.2
Radio version 2.05.51.05_2
I have quite a few registry tweaks and cab files installed. I also have a few extra programs loaded though most are installed on my SD card.
I am considering the ROM update below mainly because the only issue I have is with the media player not being able to move between albums when in portrait mode and I wondered whether this fixed that issue (this ROM update seems to suggest it "might") but it may only apply to play lists!?
I am otherwise happy with my HD2 and everything works (no SMS issues, no pink camera shots etc). I have a little delay on the keyboard, especially when tapping the SMS area but it isn’t an issue for me.
My question is, does this ROM fix the problem with moving between albums in portrait mode. If it does I am happy to install this and go through the pain of re-applying all my changes MANUALLY!. If not then I probably won’t bother as I am happy with the performance of my HD2 (unless someone tells me that there are some “other” benefits).
What’s the general consensus?
ROM Upgrade for HTC HD2
Release Date: 2009-12-09
http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=2&dl_id=804
1.Flipping back and forth between songs is easier than ever. Whether you are listening to a defined playlist, or letting your phone shuffle your songs for you, your music will play continuously and fluidly.

In portrait mode there is no switching between albums, just in landscape... is that what you mean? In Portrait you can just skip song by song...
For the mediaplayer not being able to skip albums in LANDSCAPE one of you tweaks might be responsible for this. The thing HTC fixed in this update concerning the musicplayer was about songs not stuttering anymore while playing.

Thanks for the reply. The issue is the inability to skip albums in portrait (not landscape) mode. As I don't get any stuttering issues and there seems to be little (if any) other benefits to the ROM update I just won't bother.

I'd still say it's worth upgrading to the latest ROMs - battery life is improved with the newer radio so give it a go...

alecs said:
Thanks for the reply. The issue is the inability to skip albums in portrait (not landscape) mode. As I don't get any stuttering issues and there seems to be little (if any) other benefits to the ROM update I just won't bother.
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as mentioned in post 2, you can't skip albums In portrait.when you flick up and down in portrait it only skips through whatever tracks are in the "now playing" play list.to change albums without going to landscape you click library and choose the albums tab.

samsamuel said:
as mentioned in post 2, you can't skip albums In portrait.when you flick up and down in portrait it only skips through whatever tracks are in the "now playing" play list.to change albums without going to landscape you click library and choose the albums tab.
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Thats exactly what i meant. That is what the landscape mode is for in the musictab --> to switch whole albums. The portrait mode ONLY ALLOWS you to skip single tracks, there is just no album function/skipping in portrait
Greets

I was in the same position as you two weeks ago - nothing too wrong with my old stock ROM (which was actually 1.43!), and I had taken a lot of time installing cabs, tweaking the registry etc...
BUT, 1.66 Vodafone ROM makes quite a difference to the general feeling of the phone (it feels smoother, quicker and more stable) and I have noticed absolutely nothing wrong with it at all.
Hope this helps with your decision!

Thanks folks. I think I will upgrade. There is just one tweak that I can't locate that I hce applied and wondered whether anyone knows where ig is. i have changed a registry location that changes the left soft button from "phone" to "contacts" which is very useful

Plethora of HD2 Music player woes

Hi guys...
Regretfully I am close to giving up with the HD2 music player. Beaten! Long delays, failure to find any of my mp3s even after retagging... the list of bugs and annoyances is nearly endless, such promise in a phone, such incompetence in the software testing. My last effort was a rushed and irritated email to HTC. Pointless I know but its all I've got, I am now forced to use.... WMP
HD2 Music Player Issues.
I am sure you are sick of these but you are gonna have to read another, please route these to some dev or something, I have already wasted too many hours with this dreadfully realised piece of music software.
I am baffled by HTC. The music player on the HD2 is simply not tested sufficiently. I work in testing so perhaps I am slightly more critical but the list of issues is staggering.
HTC are seriously shooting themselves in the foot, and when I am (frequently) am asked whether I recommend the phone I have to say no, because of the MUSIC PLAYER.
1. Firstly I reported the most incredible 'Genre & brackets bug' on the HTC forums last year and received NO response from HTC. A quick recap, if an mp3 ID3 tag has a ( or a ) in the genre field the music updater stalls FOREVER, yes regardless of tag format etc, its just coded badly. plain and simple, it has 'coded in china and tested in india' written all over it! The updating icon continues forever using up your battery and not updating the rest of the disk. My question to the technical team here is, well why not just skip the file you cant read after some specific timeout, that is 2 extra lines of code and an hugely (but not satisfactory) better user experience.
2. If you have a largish (more than 20) items in a playlist there is a considerable and extremely irritating delay EVERYTIME you go to the now playing screen. Why. Why. Why, who tested this app, who signed it off, how in the hell is it acceptable to have to wait 30seconds to open the music app if you have 400 songs in a playlist, answer dont use large playlists, ok but that leads onto the NEXT huge flaw..
3. When you return to a list (any list), you are always back at the start.. so you just clicked on ZZ Top and you then think oh actually I want to listen to Willie nelson, you are right back at A in the artist list, and it then takes 15 seconds of scrolling to get back to W, why is there no ABCDEG.. index like EVERY OTHER MP3 player.
If it were not for the other dreadful bugs one would have to conclude HTC intentionally crippled this device, what other explanation could there be? Were HTC paid off by Apple?
4. Here is a new one for me, just today I added 500 new Mp3s, to my 16gb memory card, now totaling 1300. Opening the music player sent the CPU to 95% (all manilla) for the best part of 15mins during which time nothing really could be used on the device. When it finally dropped a bit I went in to music player, there are ZERO artists, ZERO albums, ZERO genres but almost all the tracks listed in 'All Songs'. I then allowed the animation to continue for 30 more mins with no change, nothing added. By the way I have rewritten all the id3 tags to various different formats with no affect. I have a feeling that it is stalling on the 1st mp3, what is it stalling on I do not know, is there a log file with errors in it? Can't find one. Again terrible coding, using too much processor, not handling errors, falling over if the format is not exactly as expected. Bad all round.
This is completely unacceptable for a $500 phone.
Just spend a day with and IPod/IPhone and a HD2, that's all your technical team need to do to see what sort of job they have done.
There are loads more but I cannot be bothered now.
It seems HTC have responded to one bug that luckily did not affect me (the stuttering), please can you forward this to the most senior person you know, it really is a joke and whoever does your software testing needs a long vacation and you need to stop outsourcing.
Disgruntled user.
Tom Deloford
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Freezing on Music Tab update from HTC

Just received this from HTC;
Hello, I understand that your HTC HD2 freezes up when you are accessing your music. We are aware of this issue and we are currently in process of coming up with a software fix. Once this fix is released you will be able to locate this at http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade. We have become aware that some of the freezing issues with the HD2 can be cause by the HTC Sense. You can disable this as well, to see if it helps in the mean time. You can disable the sense by going to Settings, Personalize, Customize Tabs. I want to apologize for any inconvenience you may have experienced. I want to thank you for contacting HTC.

Yup, the update that was officially released today (but leaked last week) is supposed to address the SMS freezing issues, and some users that have installed it have reported that it does make a difference.

if ur music tab is the problem what i did was downloaded mediamonkey and had it recode all mp3 files and it did the trick for me

wingtytn said:
if ur music tab is the problem what i did was downloaded mediamonkey and had it recode all mp3 files and it did the trick for me
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What seemed to fix my music issues (granted I have over 5GB of music) was to copy the audio_manager.exe from the windows folder and past it into the start up folder. Now it only lags for a few second as it loads all the albums and it only does that when I restart my phone. Works a lot better!

Rockbox for Android

Hey everyone!
I couldn't help but notice on the Rockbo homepage (rockbox.org), under unusable ports it has listed Google Android and in this thread: forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14177.30 the last post says that someone had actually gotten sound to work through Rockbox on a HTC Legend phone:
Hello guys,
I'm right now listening music with my newest music app on my phone:
Rockbox plays music on my HTC legend \o/
The first song was Edward Maya vs Alicia - Stereo Love.
I'm overly happy that I've gotten that far now. I'm looking forward to
finally bring gapless playback, dynamic playlists and an extensive
equalizer (and more) to Android! Although there's a lot of work still to do.
Best regards.
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This is rather exciting! I've used Rockbox before on an old iAudio X5 and it was a powerful alternate firmware. Anyways I just wanted to post this here just incase anyone else would be interested.

I found some more information digging around the interwebs. I found a blog from a Rockbox developer who talks about Rockbox as an application and he mentions this achievement and includes a link to the users git repositories for Rockbox on Android. You can read about it here: daniel.haxx.se/blog/2010/07/30/the-rockbox-app-part-ii/
Here's a quote from the blog:
While I’m told the current state is rough and there’s no installer or anything yet, I’m sure I share the view of lots of others that this is a great moment in the Rockbox history. A milestone. Thanks Thomas, I hope your work continues equally good and that we get an app to try out at the end of the summer or so.
Thomas’ git repo is here: h ttp://repo.or.cz/w/kugel-rb.git
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Also Rockbox as an application was accepted into Google's Summer of Code program (info here: rockbox.org/wiki/SummerOfCode2010#Rockbox_as_an_Application )

Yeah!!!!!!!! I d like to see rockbox on android, I used it on an ipod mini, and it was really great with a great sound quality

There are no prebuilt apk's yet but you can download the source code and build Rockbox for android.
It works rather well, I'm using it in favor of the stock built in media player on my Legend.

kugel. said:
It works rather well, I'm using it in favor of the stock built in media player on my Legend.
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Could you share the apk?

There's a link on the wiki page I created today:
xttp://www.rockbox.org/wiki/AndroidPort (remember to change the xttp to http).

Just out of curiosity, could someone post a screenshot ?

Pre-Compiled Links
Prebuilt 240x320: http://www.alice-dsl.net/simonemartitz/rockbox/Rockbox-240x320.apk
Prebuilt 320x480: http://www.alice-dsl.net/simonemartitz/rockbox/Rockbox.apk
Prebuilt 480x800: http://www.alice-dsl.net/simonemartitz/rockbox/Rockbox-480x800.apk

Looks pretty promising and I know its not in any stage to be shown off but I couldn't even effectively navigate around. Hope they keep working on this.
Sent from my ADR6300

hazard666 said:
Looks pretty promising and I know its not in any stage to be shown off but I couldn't even effectively navigate around. Hope they keep working on this.
Sent from my ADR6300
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That's probably because the default touchscreen mode is the so called grid mode. In this you navigate with d-pad like controls (the screen is divided into 9 rectangles, top middle is up, down middle is down, center middle is select, etc). You can change it to the absolute point mode in the settings.

This is the best thing to happen to my phone since I bought it!
The only problem is that's it's a bit jumpy from time-to-time, especially if 'multi-tasking.
But generally I'm impressed already. True gapless playback at last! A volume control that doesn't move in HUGE increments (I.E. I can make it really really quite if I'm falling asleep listening to music)
Great stuff!

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The only problem is that's it's a bit jumpy from time-to-time, especially if 'multi-tasking.
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I assume you have an HTC phone running the official 2.1 ROM?
Those have a bug which causes music to drop out sometimes if the app is in the background/minimized.

Not working for me on Motorola Milestone. This is how it looks like:

Define "Not working". The screen shot looks ok, except the font is too small (the default font should be bigger indeed).
Try loading the cabbiev2 or selecting a bigger font. And also remember what I said about the grid mode on the previous page.

The pre-built APKs are not working for me either. I'm trying this on a Samsung Captivate (Galaxy S) running stock rom. All it shows is the rockbox splash screen and doesn't go from there.

Hi there!!
Neither works on milestone (Personal Argentina's 2.1u1 official rom).
It loads, I can navigate (and configurate the screen) but it won't actually play any file...
BTW, the screen font size and graphics from the original skin has been an issue since I firts got it for my old (from a couple of weeks now) rokr e2...

Impressive!
Installed the 480x800 build on my Milestone (Canada Telus SHOLS_U2_03.11.0) and started experimenting.
Have a few questions:
1. Noted after editing config.cfg (in order to add a WPS file) that my paths were changed from /sdcard/rockbox/ to /data/data/org.rockbox/app_rockbox/.
Is it implicit that /data/data/org.rockbox/app_rockbox/ is the way to point to sdcard?
2. My WPS contains %pc (Current time in track) and %pt (Total track time); the latter is right but the former is always 0 (%px shows 0 too).
3. Maybe silly: I'm able to use the grid to navigate but did not figure out how to exit Rockbox. How to exit?

pstrg said:
Impressive!
Installed the 480x800 build on my Milestone (Canada Telus SHOLS_U2_03.11.0) and started experimenting.
Have a few questions:
1. Noted after editing config.cfg (in order to add a WPS file) that my paths were changed from /sdcard/rockbox/ to /data/data/org.rockbox/app_rockbox/.
Is it implicit that /data/data/org.rockbox/app_rockbox/ is the way to point to sdcard?
2. My WPS contains %pc (Current time in track) and %pt (Total track time); the latter is right but the former is always 0 (%px shows 0 too).
3. Maybe silly: I'm able to use the grid to navigate but did not figure out how to exit Rockbox. How to exit?
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1) Yes. Rockbox removes the path and looks on the sdcard first so don't worry. In fact, any path will work. In order to remember it over restarts the files the setting point to need to be in /sdcard/rockbox though.
2) Don't know what's wrong there. I can't imagine it's an Android specific issue though.
3) There's also the absolute point mode, you just need to enable it (we didn't get around making it default yet). You don't *exit* Rockbox, you just stop/pause music (stopping will be slightly better for battery life) and leave the app (as with any other app like the built-in media player).

I have installed Rockbox on a HTC Tattoo. Not the most powerful phone out there, I know.
I am also very impressed. I had given up using my phone as a music player. I don't think that any of the apps on the Market are very good. None support gapless or EQ etc., and the format support is also very limited. But now there is hope.
I had to figure out how to use it first, and I found out how in the Rockbox forums. It seems like the UI is working very fine. The only thing is that they don't support the hardware buttons yet.
The music also plays back. But there is one (serious) problem: the playback stutters once in a while. It may be the same problem as reported above with HTC phones. So it is not quite usable yet. But they are definately on the way. These are early days, and the app isn't even downloadable from their web-pages yet, so I didn't excpect this much.

Update.
Fussing around with settings, noted (just once) that %pc (Current rack time) was working as it should; however, it subsequently displayed as 0 (as before) even though I modified nothing.
Another point: it seems that settings from tagnavi_custom.config aren't working.
On some occasions music did not play at all; display sometimes reverted to the very tiny initial default and it was not possible to select a font from the menu, among other menu navigation problems.
Despite those gripes, I noted no jumps while playing; in this respect, it's better than either andLess and AMPlayer, which I've been trying to play FLAC files.
Will stay attuned; am very glad that Rockbox as an app is being ported to Android and is already useable.

No ring tone, no alert sounds, WMP not functioning.

Hi, today my HD2 started to behave oddly - when receiving a call the screen wakes up as normal but no sound nor vibration (as preset) comes with it. The same goes for any other alert - SMS, e-mail...When I try to change the tones of any alert the common preview while selecting doesn't cannot be heard. Even worse, when I tried to play any music from my library with Windows Media Player it started to skip quickly from song to song without playing a note, stopped at the end of the playlist. When I tried TCPMP it work without any problem - music and video.
Any suggestion before I will be forced to proceed to the next logical step - Hard Reset? BTW I am on stock ROM 1.66.479.2 (76641)WWE, I didn't install anything new recently nor have beeb experimenting with any SW.
Thank you in advance.

ive had issues with sounds when setting the system temp locations to a location that doest exist (experimenting with a ramdisk, but i suspect the pricipal would be teh same). maybe some kind of system temp location corruption?
hunt down all you can find on clearing temp locations. start uninstalling apps one by one,
(personally id backup and go for a straight hard reset for the hour it takes to be fully fundtional again vs the hours spent fault finding.)

I think I have your fix ...
I just came across this thread and thought I'd answer immmediately because I, too, have sufferred from this issue in the past. It took me a while to figure out why, but I did. Give me about 5 minutes to collect my information, and then I'll respond again...
Peter

Here it is ...
I have a document that I've prepared in Microsoft Word to store all the handy registry tweaks and solutions to previous problems. Here's the entry for what I believe is your problem:
Sounds or Ringing or Vibration Don’t Work
There MUST be a directory called Volatile here:
Mobile Device\Application Data\Volatile
YOU MUST SOFT RESET AFTER CREATING THIS DIRECTORY
The "Volatile" directory can be empty as long as it's there within the main device Application directory.
Peter

Thank you very much, will share the result

I face to same problem using HD2, thank you. your point is help me to fixed.

Whoa, you just saved me from a hard reset thanks alot Peter.

PETER HTC you are great! Thanx man!

Thanks I fixed it too