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So VAT will be reduced from 17.5% to 15% tomorrow. So for example. If you were to buy a sim free HD from Carphone Warhouse, instead of paying £500 you should pay £475. The question is, will CPW and other retailers reduce their prices tomorrow? I hope so as I still have not got my phone.
tboy2000 said:
So VAT will be reduced from 17.5% to 15% tomorrow. So for example. If you were to buy a sim free HD from Carphone Warhouse, instead of paying £500 you should pay £475. The question is, will CPW and other retailers reduce their prices tomorrow? I hope so as I still have not got my phone.
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Your calculation is a bit off:
The reduction would result in a price drop to £489.31, not £475.
Yep; a reduction from 17.5% to 15% isn't £475. You'd first have to find out what the Vat free price of the £500 item (in this case 500/1.175 which is 425).
So VAT of 15% would actually be 489 (425 x 1.15) as cr5ss11 said
Did I?
I worked it out as £500 - 17.5% = £412.50
£412.50 + 15% = £474.38
tboy2000 said:
Did I?
I worked it out as £500 - 17.5% = £412.50
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Not -17.5%, but divided by 1.175:
500/1.175 = £425.53
I'd much rather see the VAT reduction equate to a reduction in line rental cost but I VERY highly doubt that the telcos would do that instead of increase their profit margins!
Tis otherwise very good news considering I'm buying a new PC on Tuesday! Less VAT means less expensive even if only slightly!
and considering the price of the HD went UP in the last week by about £25 or so (due to the strength of the dollar), then id say this would negate any VAT cut.
Since all prices are quoted as + VAT.
The prices would have to be adjusted from the day they are implimented (rather than announced).
Since VAT is a seperate element, they would have to put the prices up in order to make the total payable the same...
That's my take on it anyway.
Zuber
chaosdefinesorder said:
I'd much rather see the VAT reduction equate to a reduction in line rental cost but I VERY highly doubt that the telcos would do that instead of increase their profit margins!
Tis otherwise very good news considering I'm buying a new PC on Tuesday! Less VAT means less expensive even if only slightly!
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I'd much rather see it not change at all. Costing over £ 80 Billion, adding to the trillions that we are in debt already. Over 12 years to repay it... And your asking if it will save you £11 on your Touch HD
That £11 will be £15 when you pay that rather than your quality of health service
Just buy your Touch HD from play.com and use that 5% discount code
Hi
Wondering if anyone who has there Nexus One in the UK has received there tax bill yet and if so, what it is?
Its one thing shelling out £370 for the phone, only to know there is another bill coming thats an unknown amount.
Thanks
Scott
Whilst I haven't made an order yet (still weighing it up) my calculations have the VAT being between £60 and £65 (depending on whether the UK charger is added) extra. Mobile phones are duty free, so no need to worry about that.
I spoke to DHL who said I would be invoiced for £60 within 7-14 days.
Has anyone on this forum had a nexus one sent to the UK? I am very interested in buying one. How much did it cost with and without the optional UK charger. I am getting it sent tot he north east. Also how long did it take? Also if anyone on this forum came from an iPhone 3GS how did the battery life compare?
ste1164 said:
Has anyone on this forum had a nexus one sent to the UK? I am very interested in buying one. How much did it cost with and without the optional UK charger. I am getting it sent tot he north east. Also how long did it take? Also if anyone on this forum came from an iPhone 3GS how did the battery life compare?
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Ordered ~ 3pm on Wednesday, it arrived at ~ 9am Friday morning. Ordered early-mid Feb ~ 10th iirc.
374 was charged to credit card (didn't get the UK charger) but yet to have a form through for import from DHL.
Wouldn't bother with the extra charger tbh, they can be picked up cheap enough in the UK.
As above. Mine cost me £373 (phone inc delivery) and my bank charged me £10 for the conversion - total: £383. I ordered it around teatime last Wednesday and it was delivered this Monday. Not got the vat bill in yet.
Didn't get the charger as it was $19.99 + uk vat. I got one for the HD2, from amazon, at £4.95 with free delivery.
Mine (without rip off charger) cost £412 including taxes.
Ordered on a Tuesday eve, received on the Friday.
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Has anyone on this forum had a nexus one sent to the UK?
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Yep ordered on a Sunday night, delivered to my work address (about 1.5 hours north of London) Weds lunchtime, cost £384.81 with charger, no tax bill yet.
Battery life compares well with iPhone 3G, Magic, G1, better than Palm Pre with 1400 extended battery. I am planning on getting the dock when it comes to UK stockists for when I'm deskbound at work (I listen to music most of the day), but I've always done so regardless of phone.
Works well on O2 too.
Mine also came at around £410 including VAT. DHL will charge you separately for the VAT, but the bill won't arrive until about a month later. You might get lucky and DHL might not send you the bill, but I'd set aside the money as it seems the very first UK buyers at release were mainly the ones that got away with the VAT.
Even with the VAT inclusive, totalling £410 it's still alot cheaper than buying from expansys.com which is going for £599 as of today with 7 in stock according to the website.
Edit: You could wait another month and get it on contract with Vodafone if you don't want to pay for it unsubsidied. Or preorder the Desire instead on expansys for £439
ordered mine on a Sunday evening, the phone arrived the following Friday morning as it was slightly delayed at customs.
At the time I paid $577 which worked out to be £386 for the phone including UK charger and delivery charge.
I finally recieved the VAT bill this morning quoted at £60.17.
So all in all toatal costs = £446.17
Lol, YMMV...
I ordered two from the US, first never shipped, PayPal refund (direct from seller) after 11 days. Ordered second (different seller) and an empty box arrived three weeks later (express shipping). I believe it was stolen at customs. Under insurance claim.
Third time I just ordered it from a UK seller, +£50 but I got it in three days, no VAT letters to worry about and no customs delays to concern me.
I wish you all better luck than me. Every attempt I made was with an eBay "Power Seller" with good (recent) feedback for the same product.
So you paid £50 more, and it took 3 days to arrive? Might just as well have bought it from Google
There are no customs delays, DHL take it straight through and invoice you for it a few weeks later. At least that way you get a warranty.
@Rusty!:
I'm not sure I understand your point. Google weren't selling it directly outside of the US when I got mine. Or did you mean something else?
There's no way I would have received it from the US in three days anyway, customs or otherwise.
I have a guarantee, direct with HTC for 12 months.
Could you clarify what you meant?
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@Rusty!:
I'm not sure I understand your point. Google weren't selling it directly outside of the US when I got mine. Or did you mean something else?
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Google have been selling directly to the UK from Day 1 - I ordered mine then to the UK
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There's no way I would have received it from the US in three days anyway, customs or otherwise.
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The majority of the phones shipped to the UK are delivered within 3 days of order. Once dispatched in the US they are usually delivered in UK the next day!
djmcnz said:
I have a guarantee, direct with HTC for 12 months.
Could you clarify what you meant?
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All the phones direct from google have a warranty with HTC in the UK
djmcnz said:
@Rusty!:
I'm not sure I understand your point. Google weren't selling it directly outside of the US when I got mine. Or did you mean something else?
There's no way I would have received it from the US in three days anyway, customs or otherwise.
I have a guarantee, direct with HTC for 12 months.
Could you clarify what you meant?
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Since this is a 'shipping to the UK' thread, I have assumed you are in the UK. To address your points/clarify what I meant:
Point 1: Google have shipped to the UK since day of release, so dunno what you're on about.
Point 2: I ordered mine late Tuesday, and received it Friday. I think it's fair to count that as 3 days.
Point 3: No you don't I'm afraid. Read the warranty statement, it's first point is that the warranty is non-transferable. HTC already know which Google account ordered the phone, and it wasn't yours.
So what I am saying is you would have been better off in pretty much every way ordering from Google. Still, doesn't matter now can't undo it... both worth mentioning to make sure others get the best deal.
Thanks for the clarification guys, although I wasn't seeking the criticism you so quickly offered!
I'm (ultimately) happy with the course of action I took and the price I paid.
I don't wish to start a debate but you're wrong on the warranty; under law warranty transferability doesn't apply to the retailer/end user relationship, only to end user/end user relationships. As such, the first end user of the device has a 12 month HTC warranty, they can not transfer this warranty.
The retailer doesn't even need to be sanctioned or official as long as they selling original, unmodified goods.
djmcnz stated..
I don't wish to start a debate but you're wrong on the warranty; under law warranty transferability doesn't apply to the retailer/end user relationship, only to end user/end user relationships. As such, the first end user of the device has a 12 month HTC warranty, they can not transfer this warranty.
The retailer doesn't even need to be sanctioned or official as long as they selling original, unmodified goods.
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I think I agree (but don't know consumer law well enough..and am no lawyer)
Certainly in Scotland (where I am domiciled) any consumer matter (which a Nexus problem would be) can be handled by the local Sheriff Court if the consumer so desires.
Just because there are clauses in Google's contract doesn't make them right.
Ultimately it will be for a court/judge to decide what the situation.,,
However I'm sure Google & HTC will behave if a professional, competent & legal manner at all times and things would never need to get that far: Aye, right!! (2 positives making a negative..)
Cheers!
Lodger
Thanks for the replys guys . If i buy from google will i get a year warranty if anything goes wrong?
2 years warrany for us UK (and EU) guys. That's according to the website under tems & condition of purchasing. Assuming you don't start tinkering...
Zuber
If the phone did break where would I send it to in the UK to get it fixed or replaced?
ste1164 said:
If the phone did break where would I send it to in the UK to get it fixed or replaced?
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http://www.htc.com/www/support/nexusone/
Country Hotline Remark
United Kingdom +44-845-890-0079
Monday - Friday : 9am - 6pm
Saturday : 9am - 1pm
Think someone said the refurbishment centre in UK for HTC is based in Milton Keynes
Indeed it is. Turnaround time isn't too shabby either.
it's now been almost 3 months since the Nexus One was released now.
Buyers in the UK, did you get a VAT bill from DHL, or did you get away with it?
Got VAT bill 2/3 weeks after the phone.
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Got VAT bill 2/3 weeks after the phone.
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There's no import duty on mobile phones. Just the 17.5% vat.
i have not seen one yet, and its been 3 months, surely i would have received one by now.
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There's no import duty on mobile phones. Just the 17.5% vat.
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That's what the poll is about... if you got a VAT bill...
I got a VAT bill 4 weeks later for £61.48
Mine originally got charged to work. Still awaiting a personal invoice through (assuming it gets sorted properly) still expecting to pay one in the near future though.
So did mine, had to phone up and winge as they tried to charge me the commercial admin fee, fair play they sorted out a credit pretty quick.
business' dont pay vat on phones to avoid fraud. consumers who go over the personal import levy with customs and excise then have to pay vat as its coming from outsde europe.
if you didnt get one say nowt!!
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it's now been almost 3 months since the Nexus One was released now.
Buyers in the UK, did you get a VAT bill from DHL, or did you get away with it?
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I got one few weeks after purchase for around £60.
Nearly 2 months here and I got mine a few days ago. I'm moving out of this house in a couple weeks, any harm in not paying?
Apart from tax evasion i think you should be fine
The first bill DHL sent me they charged me 5% import duty on top of the VAT, so I called them up to have the bill corrected and send me a revised bill. That was a month ago. I have yet to receive my revised bill. So until my new updated bill arrives I ain't gonna pay DHL a single penny.
If you've had a bill and don't pay, DHL will just pass your details on to a recovery agency who will charge you more, take you to court and damage your credit rating. Not really worth it.
If you are still yet to get one and you had it dispatched to work there is a chance your company will have received the bill as DHL will send it to the "account holder" at that address if one is on file. Now your company may have kindly paid it for you, or the paperwork is moving around in circles as no one has any idea why a VAT bill would have been sent to them.
Got my tax bill 3 weeks after delivery for the N1, sent to work address.
About 2 weeks after delivery for desktop dock 1, sent to work address.
Still waiting on the one for desktop dock 2 (sent to home address, ordered at same time as 1).
You really don't want to try and avoid paying if billed - UK Customs and Excise have an awful long memory and a lot of power (rights of entry to property, opening mail to address, etc etc).
Been 3 months now and not received it yet.
We move on 16th April to anew address so I'm not sure how it will stand if it gets sent to the old address.
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Been 3 months now and not received it yet. We move on 16th April to a new address so I'm not sure how it will stand if it gets sent to the old address.
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You could always inform DHL that you're moving.
I had to pay the VAT before they'd deliver my N1, then the confirmation was going to take so long it would take an extra day to deliver, so I went and collected it from DHL's depot at the airport.
artesea said:
If you've had a bill and don't pay, DHL will just pass your details on to a recovery agency who will charge you more, take you to court and damage your credit rating. Not really worth it.
If you are still yet to get one and you had it dispatched to work there is a chance your company will have received the bill as DHL will send it to the "account holder" at that address if one is on file. Now your company may have kindly paid it for you, or the paperwork is moving around in circles as no one has any idea why a VAT bill would have been sent to them.
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A couple of years back I imported some stuff and DHL charged me VAT for it, which I forgot about. They send you a reminder bill (a red bill) a month later if you don't pay. So it's not like they don't give you a chance before passing it on to the debt/bailiff department.
Just bought the Nexus 10 at the play store! The tax cost around $36! Is that normal!? Just curious...
ChrisAstro said:
Just bought the Nexus 10 at the play store! The tax cost around $36! Is that normal!? Just curious...
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In the US they're going to charge you what ever your state and local taxes would be, and that varies from state to state, county to county and city to city.
Yes, I live in NJ where we have 7% sales tax and I was charged 35 on the 32GB version.
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Croak said:
In the US they're going to charge you what ever your state and local taxes would be, and that varies from state to state, county to county and city to city.
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Ah, I'm in California so probably that's why! Thanks.
Lucky guys... i've been charged 105$ of taxes, but im not in the USA
What about the Euro Zone? How much is the shipment, and additional cost to €400? Can it be shipped to another EU country?
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What about the Euro Zone? How much is the shipment, and additional cost to €400? Can it be shipped to another EU country?
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It can only be shipped to countries with play store, Germany France UK Spain and not sure if anymore. Cost is 400€ for 16Gb, 500€ 32Gb, including taxes
Google don't a local store in south florida,so i don't why they charging taxes here..
This why i like Amazon
What they charged me for tax wasn't the state or local rate. It was in between the two rates.
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What about the Euro Zone? How much is the shipment, and additional cost to €400?
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The shipping cost in Europe is €9,90, but prices here always include tax, it is required by law.
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PlanetJumble said:
The shipping cost in Europe is €9,90, but prices here always include tax, it is required by law.
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Can I order it it Germany and send it to another Europe country and will the cost be 9,90 euro?
Of course not. First of all, the country is determined by IP, and when you fake that via proxy, you still can't enter an adress from another country.
You need a relay you can trust, but that adds international shipping on top if the above price.
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Of course not. First of all, the country is determined by IP, and when you fake that via proxy, you still can't enter an adress from another country.
You need a relay you can trust, but that adds international shipping on top if the above price.
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I hear you, it just doesn't seem to make sense. If I buy the product it's good for the Google/Samsung, good for say Germany because I'm paying the taxes, good for the EU because customs are probably included, and good for whoever ships it because I'm paying the international (but European Uninon) shipping cost. No harm is done because I could just buy here paying the same EU customs plus local shipping costs and taxes which makes no difference to Google/Samsung, only Play Store here doesn't have it. That's either minus one unit, or I'll have to find someone in Germany to buy and ship.
Ask Google the Whys and Why Nots, not me.
Straf said:
Lucky guys... i've been charged 105$ of taxes, but im not in the USA
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Lucky guy! Here in the UK we get charge the equivalent of $120 in tax
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Just bought the Nexus 10 at the play store! The tax cost around $36! Is that normal!? Just curious...
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I'll trade you for my 13% tax. :laugh:
Yeah my tax was $45.88 I'm in Washington State. I wished this device was released around the time when the Infinity came out. Then I wouldn't have had to pay sales tax, since I would still be living in Oregon! Lucky [email protected]***s! Lol.
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I can throw in 19% tax, resulting in €64.71 ($83.30).
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Lucky guy! Here in the UK we get charge the equivalent of $120 in tax
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WOA!!! That is a lot! Sorry to hear that :/
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I can throw in 19% tax, resulting in €64.71 ($83.30).
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So the €400 device costs almost €500 with taxes and shipping?