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Connections drop in Standby

Anyone else noticed that the Jasjar will disconnect all network connections if you put in into standby for more than 5 mins?
my XDAII never did that and I keep my mesenger programs on all the time. The Jasjar drops me out after 5 mins of standby and its getting very annoying.
Anyone know if theres a hidden setting/registry setting i can force it to stay on? I dont have the dissconnect if not used checkbox checked for wireless and there doesnt seem to be one for GPRS/3G.
Thanks
Stot

Well it seems that its only doing this for my WiFi connection not GPRS/3G but its a pain in the posterior. Id like to recieve messages when in the warehouse on wifi and the unit is in standby :?
Stot

stot said:
Well it seems that its only doing this for my WiFi connection not GPRS/3G but its a pain in the posterior. Id like to recieve messages when in the warehouse on wifi and the unit is in standby :?
Stot
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Do you have the power saving set for the WiFi?

well the best I can do is slide the slider to the "best performance" end and make sure the turn off if not used checkbox isn't checked. its not actually turning off the wireless its just dropping connection til I open the device agiain then it re-connects
cheers
stot

stot said:
well the best I can do is slide the slider to the "best performance" end and make sure the turn off if not used checkbox isn't checked. its not actually turning off the wireless its just dropping connection til I open the device agiain then it re-connects
cheers
stot
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Hmmm I was quite sure my MDA Pro didn't do that. You're right - it certainly doesn't for 3G / GPRS. Quite possible to close the device and leave it, then come back a bit later and still be on MSN etc.
but I thought mine did it on WiFi too?

For the mobile signal time to time it try to pick wcdma instead of GSM if it doesnt find the WCDMA then it goes for GSM... after a while again it search for it...
You can disable this by going to Start-Settings-Personal-Phone & Then under Band u will find Auto which you can set it to GSM which will stay to GSM instead searching for WCDMA time to time...

well if you would like to give it a try Timetex, and anyone else, I'd love to know if its just me. make sure GPRS doesn't kick in, maybe turn off the phone. I'm using Jasjars 1.13 updated rom from clubimate.
Cheers
Stot

If anyone followed this and didnt like it either I came up with a work around.
I sent my power settings to NEVER turn off on battery. the Backlight still will but the unit doesnt. Now with the Jasjar we have a clam design and I dont know about you but when im not using it its closed, i.e. screen and backlight off.
Tested this all out today, on 3G and GPRS for 1/2 the day, WiFi the rest. Took a number of photos, listened to an album, made some phone calls. Average use. It lasted all day and still has 32% battery left. Plus when I open it up, BING its on every time and it stays connected to the WiFi.
Dont spose there are reg settings that decide what turns off when you close the clam?
Cya
Stot.

search for "GPRS always on" - it;s solved several times on this forum

WIFI power on software For CHECKING EMAIL

Hi
is there any program which turns on WIFI for windows email checking and turn it off afterward(even in standby state)?

Would LOVE it !

Yes there is But, its not free, it's $10.00. The app is called "ct scheduler" It'll allow you to turn on/off wifi at anytime you like and however many times you like. Theres more features also, like turning on/off bluetooth, sending a sms at a given time, schedule a softreset, adjust volume at chosen times, and more. i love this app, but again, it's $10.00.
dschoenike

try sk tools i think they have something that will do it or a app that will

aaronpoweruser said:
try sk tools i think they have something that will do it or a app that will
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I think you mean SKSchema.

What I'm looking for is this:
An app that uses the GPS to turn WiFi ON at predetermined coordinates.
So for example, I walk to the coffee shop, GPS knows I'm getting close, turns WiFi ON. WiFi auto-connects while I'm there, as I step out, it times out at the preset time (part of wm6). I drive to the office, again, GPS know to turn Wifi ON and phone then auto connects to the network there. Same when I get back home.
This will save me some $ on data plan and get me a faster connection when I'm in a friendly wifi zone.
Thoughts?

how can i stop my mobile web from connecting by itself!?

19 hours it was connect for before i realised!! seriously i was kinda annoyed.
ive changed the settings on twitter and weather so they only update manually but is there anything else i need to do.
thanks
x

Is this because you are worried about going over your internet allowance (500mbish) or because you want to save on battery? I'm a tad concerned about both and I would feel better if I could easily disable mobile web activating every so often.

All Settings --> Connections --> Connections --> Advanced --> Select Networks
There, select "My work Network". That will only allow it to connect through WiFi.

download nodata
it's available on here..
also touch x datadisconnect..

freyberry said:
All Settings --> Connections --> Connections --> Advanced --> Select Networks
There, select "My work Network". That will only allow it to connect through WiFi.
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got to connections selected adavanced network and theres a drop down bar that says HSDPA/HSUPA, disable or HSDPA only???
have i gone wrong some where? sorry im a bit thick haha

@CharGuitarGirl said:
got to connections selected adavanced network and theres a drop down bar that says HSDPA/HSUPA, disable or HSDPA only???
have i gone wrong some where? sorry im a bit thick haha
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get the cab I mentioned..

freyberry said:
All Settings --> Connections --> Connections --> Advanced --> Select Networks
There, select "My work Network". That will only allow it to connect through WiFi.
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I'm afraid the only way to actually disable data connections is NoData (i uploaded it for you). If you change your connection settings it won't connect via HSDPA or GPRS but it will connect via WAP.
If you install NoData simply make a shortcut to it and turn on data connections whenever you need them.

@CharGuitarGirl said:
got to connections selected adavanced network and theres a drop down bar that says HSDPA/HSUPA, disable or HSDPA only???
have i gone wrong some where? sorry im a bit thick haha
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contact HTC in your region, they send you a cab file that can disable all your data connections...alternatively there are a good few programs avl. on here as well.

hi
disable automatic updates in your weather program

The method provided by freyberry worked for me until I looked at my phone this morning, instead of Mobile Web it said "Pay Monthly Contract" and was active for 12 hours!
I guess I should get that cab!

@CharGuitarGirl said:
19 hours it was connect for before i realised!! seriously i was kinda annoyed.
ive changed the settings on twitter and weather so they only update manually but is there anything else i need to do.
thanks
x
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Why do you want to stop it connecting?
You are only charged for actual data transfer, not for time connected, and the amount of data used for FB and Twitter updates is relatively small anyway.
If you are being charged for all data I can understand your problem as you would want to stop some of the background downloads, otherwise there's really no point. The effect on battery life by disconnecting (as opposed to switching to GSM) is miniscule.

gregormax said:
If you install NoData simply make a shortcut to it and turn on data connections whenever you need them.
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probably giving you a right headache now but, how do i do that ^

If you get charged for this, just tell the carrier that you accidently enabled it and didn't mean to use any data usage.

neilm i worry about it being left on. i realise that for the 19 hours it was left on it only used 3mb but it just niggles away at me, if i cant really disable it when i want & effectively i'll just accept it and try not to worry about it.

NeilM said:
The effect on battery life by disconnecting (as opposed to switching to GSM) is miniscule.
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Hi, i have already used all methods discussed above. i have nodata and i also use the on/off switch to 3G network. The thing is that there IS a difference in battery times with all these... with 3G on and connection on battery lasts about 24 hours with minimal use. With 2G and connection on battery lasts 48 hours (2 days) with minimal use. With 2G and connection OFF from nodata it can hold 4 days on a single charge!
At least thats happening with my battery, coz i heard some stories about batteries holding 6-9 hours which never happened to me unless im using it fully for those 9 hours...
PS: by minimal usage i mean a couple of phone calls, a couple of sms and around 10-15 mins of internet connection either wifi or gprs just to update weather, twitter, email etc. The rest of its time, in sleep mode.

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neilm i worry about it being left on. i realise that for the 19 hours it was left on it only used 3mb but it just niggles away at me, if i cant really disable it when i want & effectively i'll just accept it and try not to worry about it.
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I'd say that 3MB in 19 hours without knowingly using any data is a bit of a concern
It may be wise to look into the updating schedules for location services, weather, twitter and Facebook (if you use them) and Stocks and Shares. The stocks and shares stuff does use a lot of data if you don't change the default settings.
For NoData- download the nodata.cab file to your phone then use File Explorer to locate it. Tap the filename to run it and this will install the program and place a shortcut in your Programs folder. You could then add the shortcut as one of the 9 links on the home page for easy access, to turn the data connection on & off at will

djngal said:
Hi, i have already used all methods discussed above. i have nodata and i also use the on/off switch to 3G network. The thing is that there IS a difference in battery times with all these... with 3G on and connection on battery lasts about 24 hours with minimal use. With 2G and connection on battery lasts 48 hours (2 days) with minimal use. With 2G and connection OFF from nodata it can hold 4 days on a single charge!
At least thats happening with my battery, coz i heard some stories about batteries holding 6-9 hours which never happened to me unless im using it fully for those 9 hours...
PS: by minimal usage i mean a couple of phone calls, a couple of sms and around 10-15 mins of internet connection either wifi or gprs just to update weather, twitter, email etc. The rest of its time, in sleep mode.
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If those figures are typical for you, then you are doing very well! Most users see about 25-30% improvement by turning off 3G, and significantly less for turning data off.
It's important to realise that it is mostly data transfer that uses battery power, not the state of being connected or not. To go 4 days without any data transfer at all would mean a substantial reduction in overall device functionality, as you'd be simply using the installed programs in self contained mode- that may well limit the amount you even turn it on, so saving even more power. No email/web browsing/weather etc may well improve the battery life, but at what expense in terms of functionality?
As I mention above, it might be better to find out which programs are downloading data and at what intervals, and modify those settings to save both data use and battery life.

Not quite sure I am after the same as the op, but its close and I don't see the point in starting a new thread.
But I want my hd2 to use Wifi when I am connected to it and not the 3g connection. Had a quick search, but maybe I am using the wrong terms!! as i couldnt find anything.

keith43 said:
Not quite sure I am after the same as the op, but its close and I don't see the point in starting a new thread.
But I want my hd2 to use Wifi when I am connected to it and not the 3g connection. Had a quick search, but maybe I am using the wrong terms!! as i couldnt find anything.
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The HD2 and all Windows Mobile phones ought to use an open WiFi connection in preference to the phone signal without you having to do anything.
There are some provisos though:
It must be a valid WiFi connection, so check that the device can use the WiFi signal properly
The data session needs to be initiated after the WiFi is turned on, or it may continue using the phone signal. So, for web browsing, exit the browser, and restart it after turning on WiFi. Stuff such as location services, weather updates etc might continue using the phone, but the amount of data they use is relatively small unless you have a very short update interval.

Wonder if anybody has made a cab: "Connect ONLY and ONLY using WiFi"
*lol*
if there is - I will get it

Always on Internet Query

Was having a debate elsewhere and a few of us have realised, that we are not actually sure what this does and if really required?
I turned mine off a while back for example and my widgets would still update as I wanted and I still received emails etc.
Therefore can anyone actually explain what "Always on Internet" is actual for?
I read a somewhere on Google that the G1 users in the past who used the "Always on" option, found that when they went abroad, they were getting charged a fortune in roaming charges. Is this a sneaky reason for it being included maybe?

There's another setting which enables / disables data whilst roaming.
Personally I have found that it is better to have the Internet Always on as it is quicker for any app to use the data connection. With it off, sometimes apps failed but since enabling it again, no probs
Vince

I think what the option does is leave the 3G or whatever connected so that when apps need it your phone doesn't need to reconnect each time.
Without it checked i imagine apps will connect the 3G, download the data they need, then disconnect the 3G connection.
Makes sense anyway, ive never had it off.

If you turn on the always on internet, your device will stay connected to the intenet so you dont have to keep connecting, if you turn it on, you can still connect to the internet when needed but it will turn it back off after x amount of minutes idle i think lol

@xxThugxx
Thanks for just rewording my post....

Cheers guys, have put mine back on, just hope battery drain doesn't get too bad.

Wifi auto disable?

is there a app that turns off/disables the wifi when you leave the range? blackberry had an app for this and am hopeful android does too but i cant seem to find any so was wondering if anyone knows of one.

I'm going to bump this because i've been looking for this same program.

i think juicedefender (the payed ultimatejuice actually) claims to do this? it never worked for me though, but apparently it does for other people. give it a shot

i found 1 that sounds like it would of worked but cant find...
Sanga Wifi Enabler will automatically enable your wifi adapter only on those
locations where you actually use it.
When you are at a place where you don't regularly use your wifi adapter, Sanga Wifi Enabler
will turn off your adapter, thus greatly improving battery life.
Includes also bluetooth management.
also found and tried this BUT i didnt see it turn off my wifi when i went in town and noticed my GPS never stopped so i had to turn it off because i felt that along with my unused wifi being on i was using gps non stop...
Wifi Auto Enabler
Active or desactive automaticly Wifi in one or many zones saved . This soft not use Gps for save battery but use Gsm location .
(CELLULAR ( GSM ) LOCALISATION MUST BE ACTIVED ON PHONE PARAMETERS )

I use one called Y5 it turns off and on my wifi based on my location. It seems to work well.

wick12345 said:
I use one called Y5 it turns off and on my wifi based on my location. It seems to work well.
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now this looks like it might work! many thanks.
i figure the best way to make a working app is to save my location via cell towers around me like how phones without gps can guess your location within a area by triangulating the location. saving that specific location on an app just monitoring not using gps sounds like it might do better on battery with check ever so often (30min,1hr,...). once my location saved and i am in it the app triggers on the wifi. if im out of the area it truns the wifi off. im just sayin heh.