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How to disconnect the "Always On' GPRS in WM2003

Some questions about the "ALWAYS ON" GPRS connection in WM2003 (device = imate aka XDA II)
1. Does it consume extra battery life if the GPRS is alawys on?
2. When I'm connected but not actively doing anything (upload/download), does the device keep communicating with the service provider? i.e. sending control information back and forth even when i am actively not using it?
3. If the GPRS connection is active, are there any chances my phone reception or the phone's ability to get a phone call/SMS/MMS is adversely affected? I dont want people not to be able to contact me or send sms/mms because my phone is always connected on GPRS.
4. Once the GPRS connection is made, and i'm done doing my "thing", how do I disconnect? Cause currently I have no way of disconnecting.

1 yes like your phone use more power when you speak in your phone it use lot more power then not using it
2 a bit not too much
3 it should not
4 www.GB-SOFT.cz/xdaII should add some features

humayunl said:
Some questions about the "ALWAYS ON" GPRS connection in WM2003 (device = imate aka XDA II)
4. Once the GPRS connection is made, and i'm done doing my "thing", how do I disconnect? Cause currently I have no way of disconnecting.
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Press and hold the Red Disconnect button for several seconds (Approx. 3 Sec) and it will disconnect.
Dustoff

humayunl said:
Some questions about the "ALWAYS ON" GPRS connection in WM2003 (device = imate aka XDA II)
4. Once the GPRS connection is made, and i'm done doing my "thing", how do I disconnect? Cause currently I have no way of disconnecting.
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Press and hold the Red Disconnect button for several seconds (Approx. 3 Sec) and it will disconnect.
Dustoff

Mind you, I use an MDA I.
as far as I know, the only way to get off and stay off GPRS is to go to settings->system->memmory->running programs and close anything that might use it (mailbox, IE, etc...)
If the signal indicator says it's connected to GPRS, then yes, you are actively connected to the tower/cell network. Sending info constantly, I don't know?????
GPRS effecting other network connectiveity???? I've heard yay and nay and have no professional opinion. Personally, I have no problems recieving a call, sms, etc... while connected to GPRS.
As far as power consumption, I would assume yes, it sucks up power. I have noticed about a 15% increase in power consumption using the web for an hour or so per day as well as automaticly checking email once every 45 minutes.
I also recently discovered a beautiful little prog that I cooked into my MDA I OS. PocketNav. It allows you to switch programs, close certain ones with only two "clicks", or all the progs at once, etc.... Check it out!!! It will be worth your time (I don't know where to get it other than stephan's kitchen).
Good luck!

gsm and sms should disable grps while it's using the band
but not cause problems
there is also the program PHM task manager
which is pretty much a copy of the task manager in windows 2k and xp so if people know and like that then it's a good program

Dustoff said:
humayunl said:
Some questions about the "ALWAYS ON" GPRS connection in WM2003 (device = imate aka XDA II)
4. Once the GPRS connection is made, and i'm done doing my "thing", how do I disconnect? Cause currently I have no way of disconnecting.
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Press and hold the Red Disconnect button for several seconds (Approx. 3 Sec) and it will disconnect.
Dustoff
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He Dustoff,
Great stuff! Worked fine for me. Thanks.
Ronald

Dustoff,
Where is the Red dsiconnect button I am supposed to press and hold?
I am using WM2003 and after Iam connected, i havent been able to find any place where there is any disconnect option. in the connection bubble all i can see is that i am "connected" but there is nowhere for me to disconnect.
Can you please let me know where you find this disconnect option.
thanks

Red disconnect button
It is simply the red button of the telephone.
On another hand, if someone calls you exactly in the same moment when yours GPRS is fully active downloading something (a big picture, a long message, ...), you may appear as "unavailable"

Rudegar said:
4 www.GB-SOFT.cz/xdaII should add some features
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Hi.
I have not tried the above software yet, but here is the problem I have...
I use Wi-Fi a lot at home and quite often keep the Wi-Fi on and use WiFiFoFum away from home. I have managed to set up my pay as you go GPRS connection. But whenever I'm away from a Wi-Fi network the GPRS connects and my applications then access the internet.
There needs to be an option of "not connecting gprs automatically when there is no Wi-Fi connection."
What I have had to do is change one of the setting for the gprs so it cant connect, and I have to change it back when I need it.
Switching from Wi-Fi to gprs can cost a lot if things connect without me knowing. It costs £3 for a months use of 1Mb.
Regards,
Ian Watson

creating a phantom connection, and "picking" it as default may be slightly quicker than changing the settings of you primary connection.

I think holding down the HANGUP/STOP button for 2-3 seconds is the fastest and easiest way.

interestingfellow said:
creating a phantom connection, and "picking" it as default may be slightly quicker than changing the settings of you primary connection.
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I have found where I can stop it from connecting the GPRS if it cant get a wi-fi conncetion. Connections icon on the connections tab, then the advanced tab, then the select networks button - "programs that automaticall connect to the internet..........". I have changed this from gprs to my isp.
Ian

GPRS always auto disconnects after some time

I found a lot of posts where people ask for auto disconnect. My problem is the other way round: When I connect with GPRS after some 5 minutes or so my QTEK S200 disconnects by itself. This might be caused by the cab file MP_autoDisconnect_EnableDRM_prophetUA(AKU2.0)_060112.cab which I found in enhanced ROM?
I don't want to hard reset to see the effect this cab not beeing installed. Any ideas to help???

I have the same problem... lets see if anyone knows how to enable GPRS for longer then only 6 minutes.

I have the same problem... lets see if anyone knows how to enable GPRS for longer then only 6 minutes.

it's because of your mobile operator. i've the same sh.t here. it keeps disconnecting after 5-10 minutes and the traffic rounds up. and i have to pay more... i've a hima, my friend's SE W800 - same crap, keeps disconnecting. i'm sick of GSM networks, they're getting old and do not meet modern speed and reliability requirements. so i'm afraid we'll just have to wait until WiMAX or something else comes to replace an old man. cheers

You might wanna try this from wiki here:
If you want your GPRS (or EDGE) connection to always be on, set the following:
HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\|gprs connection name|\AlwaysOn = 1 (DWORD decimal)
And to turn it off:
HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\|gprs connection name|\AlwaysOn = 0 (DWORD decimal)
Note that |gprs connection name| will depend on the name you've given your GPRS connection
I'm on tmobile web n walk, so its a pain to wait for gprs to reconnect everytime.... I've just started using this for about a day, but looks ok so far... try it... see if its the magic ur looking for

zep said:
it's because of your mobile operator. i've the same sh.t here. it keeps disconnecting after 5-10 minutes and the traffic rounds up. and i have to pay more... i've a hima, my friend's SE W800 - same crap, keeps disconnecting. i'm sick of GSM networks, they're getting old and do not meet modern speed and reliability requirements. so i'm afraid we'll just have to wait until WiMAX or something else comes to replace an old man. cheers
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I don't think it's connected to the provider as I know enough people using the same provider where GPRS stays connected a long time. The only difference we have is the PPC. I will try jamichy's solution later this week when I will be back home. In the meantime Craic Dub - does it solve the problem on your side?

jamichy said:
You might wanna try this from wiki here:
If you want your GPRS (or EDGE) connection to always be on, set the following:
HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\|gprs connection name|\AlwaysOn = 1 (DWORD decimal)
And to turn it off:
HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\|gprs connection name|\AlwaysOn = 0 (DWORD decimal)
Note that |gprs connection name| will depend on the name you've given your GPRS connection
I'm on tmobile web n walk, so its a pain to wait for gprs to reconnect everytime.... I've just started using this for about a day, but looks ok so far... try it... see if its the magic ur looking for
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O.k. I couldn't wait and tested today. Now the connection seems to stay as long as you do not stop it.
But: It connects automatically to GPRS when you connect the phone to your provider. That's not really what I wanted. In other countries this will create extreme roaming costs.
Any other idea on how to stop this auto connect? Even using phonealarm's "do not start GPRS automatically" does not help, again it starts connecting when you dial in your Phone PIN.

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Seems the Reg Hack is not a brilliant idea... I have setup my device to power off display after 2min... when i press power button to come out of standby, it freezes the device for abt 40 to 50 sec
Its worse when i get an incoming call, the screen is on but does not respond to touch or pressing green button...
So i changed registry back... and bingo, everythings ok again....
But now, i've found another way, a little freeware app that does all I want and more, and you get the option to choose connect gprs on boot or connect when needed... etc... take a look at:
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
I'm using now, and seems ok

jamichy said:
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Seems the Reg Hack is not a brilliant idea... I have setup my device to power off display after 2min... when i press power button to come out of standby, it freezes the device for abt 40 to 50 sec
Its worse when i get an incoming call, the screen is on but does not respond to touch or pressing green button...
So i changed registry back... and bingo, everythings ok again....
But now, i've found another way, a little freeware app that does all I want and more, and you get the option to choose connect gprs on boot or connect when needed... etc... take a look at:
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
I'm using now, and seems ok
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Sounds interesting. Still difficult for me to understand what it really does:
- What means "search GPRS [G] on start radio"
- What means "start [G] on start GPRS
- What means "Switch GRPS always On/Off hold till for following connection"
Can you tell me what it does non your side? Im a startting to hesitate trying to many things. I am still not convinced of WM5 - I installed GPS pgrs monitor (on QTEK CD...) which did not work together with phone alarm. And to deinstall was the ususal WM5 hassle, only using sktools and manual deletion of a file after another soft reser I was able to remove it again

Search GPRS ON start radio=gprs connects on startup
Start G on start GPRS=gprs connects when an application needs web connection, and stays connected
Switch GRPS always On/Off hold till for following connection=default settings, connect when needed, then disconnect
Havent had the phone freeze problem, and gprs connects on startup, and stays connected... which is fine for my tariff, tmobile web n walk unlimited gprs

jamichy said:
Search GPRS ON start radio=gprs connects on startup
Start G on start GPRS=gprs connects when an application needs web connection, and stays connected
Switch GRPS always On/Off hold till for following connection=default settings, connect when needed, then disconnect
Havent had the phone freeze problem, and gprs connects on startup, and stays connected... which is fine for my tariff, tmobile web n walk unlimited gprs
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Seems to work flawlessly so far on my S200. Thanks for your help Jamichy!!
The only thing I'am still missing is EDGE in Germany... :wink:

how to kill GPRS?

hi, got a HTC kaiser last week, was working fine, internet, email, tomtom.
but a few days ago i put an orange sim card in and now half the time i try to access the internet in anyway it connects to GPRS instead of wifi despite me being only a few feet away from the router.
i don't want GPRS, i don't want to pay for it so i disabled GPRS under comms manager but as soon as i do the button flicks back over and it reconnects and only sometimes give me an option to disconnect.

weetsie said:
hi, got a HTC kaiser last week, was working fine, internet, email, tomtom.
but a few days ago i put an orange sim card in and now half the time i try to access the internet in anyway it connects to GPRS instead of wifi despite me being only a few feet away from the router.
i don't want GPRS, i don't want to pay for it so i disabled GPRS under comms manager but as soon as i do the button flicks back over and it reconnects and only sometimes give me an option to disconnect.
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Welcome to the forum
>You can delete the account information on connection settings erasing it or just editing
that way won{t connect you never by gprs
Good luck,

orb3000 said:
Welcome to the forum
>You can delete the account information on connection settings erasing it or just editing
that way won{t connect you never by gprs
Good luck,
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sounds good, how do i do that?

it should automatically connect you to wifi. even if the gprs signal is on, it should still be connecting through wifi regardless.

mrbkkt1 said:
it should automatically connect you to wifi. even if the gprs signal is on, it should still be connecting through wifi regardless.
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the thing is i had credit/minutes on a simcard and after i checked my email and it connected/disconnected while i was fighting with it my credit went from £2.00 to £0.01

I am pretty sure ABACABB will do the trick.

abacabb?
i googled it aswell -_-

weetsie said:
sounds good, how do i do that?
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Easy
Start-settings-connections-connections again-manage existing connections-edit the one is active and change the values to anything you want.
Also as other members say there must be an app to do so, but I prefer to do it manually
Good luck,

weetsie said:
hi, got a HTC kaiser last week, was working fine, internet, email, tomtom.
but a few days ago i put an orange sim card in and now half the time i try to access the internet in anyway it connects to GPRS instead of wifi despite me being only a few feet away from the router.
i don't want GPRS, i don't want to pay for it so i disabled GPRS under comms manager but as soon as i do the button flicks back over and it reconnects and only sometimes give me an option to disconnect.
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Hi,
You might want to take a look here. Paul has a neat little app for your problem.
Dirk

^thankyou
^^thankyou

The NODATA did the trick for me thanks

Data connection full time

Hey guys.
One of these days I got an SMS from my carrier saying my data plan had been activated (I didn't ask for it) and that my cell would be self configured to use the data connection.
The problem is that since then, my phone seems to be connected full time.
The back plate is hot as hell, the battery doesn't last 6 hours, and every cheap pc speaker set (that suffers interference from cell phone waves) indicates it's connected the whole time.
The first time it happenned, I managed to turn it off with "HD Tweak".
Now I flashed Dutty's "R7 Thriller" and the problem is back, though now I use HD Tweak to disable the connection, set "always on" to false, set "auto disconnect" to 10 seconds and nothing seems to fix this. The only way to make my battery last for more then half a day is to put it in airplane mode.
I even tryied to set the 'priority' order of connections to "My Work Network", and I even deleted the data connection (There's "Vivo Zap", the Edge/3G one, and "Vivo MMS" - this MMS hasn't been deleted by me).
Anybody had any problem like this? How to fix this?!
Thanks in advance!

try this app http://rapidshare.com/files/88130685/MoDaCo_NoData.CAB.html
it disables data connection completely -- install then go to settings, connections and start no data and disable your decided connection!

Thanks a lot, I'll give it a try! ; )
Just outta curiosity: is this normal, this full time connection? I disabled it every way I found, and yet it didn't stop!
F*** Windows Mobile... ¬¬

shinobih2o said:
Thanks a lot, I'll give it a try! ; )
Just outta curiosity: is this normal, this full time connection? I disabled it every way I found, and yet it didn't stop!
F*** Windows Mobile... ¬¬
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Of course it aint normal, but I maybe wrong, cuz i have a completely different operator and completely different data connection(which is turned off for me by the operator)--- full time connection maybe active because something is wrong with your rom or something - try a hard reset if the nodata app doesnt help

NoData didn't run in my ROM (Onkolog's WM6.5 Full). : (
But I installed "Advanced Config Tool" and disabled "GPRS Auto Attach".
Description: "Automatically search GPRS/3G connection on start of radio, or only when a data connection must be estabilished".
It seems cooler now; as soon as I get to my work I'll test it with the desktop speakers (they make some pretty weird noises when there is a cell phone radio frequency emitter near them, like a cell phone trying to connect to the 3G or GSM network).
I'll post it back when I get back!

I disabled my data connection like this
Settings>Connections>Connections>Advanced>Select Networks...
And in those two drop down menus select "My Work Network"
Worked for me....

I tried that too, but that didn't work.
Indeed, the only way to make the battery last more then 6 hours is to use "Advanced Config" and disable that 3G lookup thing.
Weird, uh? Anybody had a similar problem...?

WiFi and 3G

I currently have a BlackBerry Bold 9000 - come the start of February I will finally get my hands on an HD2...
I don't really use the wireless on my BlackBerry - so my question is this:
Does the HD2 select a Wifi connection over the 3G when I am in a place where I can use either? Does it know to stop using 3G when I am in connection distance to something like my home network?
This is probably a stupid question - I rarely ever surf using my BB since it just does not lend itself to this very well.
Thanks in advance for the feedback.
Scott

UberScooter said:
I currently have a BlackBerry Bold 9000 - come the start of February I will finally get my hands on an HD2...
I don't really use the wireless on my BlackBerry - so my question is this:
Does the HD2 select a Wifi connection over the 3G when I am in a place where I can use either? Does it know to stop using 3G when I am in connection distance to something like my home network?
This is probably a stupid question - I rarely ever surf using my BB since it just does not lend itself to this very well.
Thanks in advance for the feedback.
Scott
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If I've got my HD2 paired up with a wifi network and have the wifi turned on it will automatically choose this connection before anything else including 3G. However, I'm not sure about public wifi hotspots as I've not tried it.

That is what I was hoping was the answer - I suspect that should I connect to a public wifi spot that it would than take precedence over the 3G connection - this is a bit new to me. I will have a fairly good data bundle when I upgrade but it is nice to know.
Thanks
Scott

You will generally find that the action of turning the WiFi on, then entering the public hotspot connection credentials will then make the WiFi the default transport.
If you have already previously paired and entered the credentials, then you should only need to turn WiFi on for it to be used.
Remember that WiFi goes off when the device goes into standby to save battery drain, but will come on again after a few seconds when the device is turned on again.

NeilM said:
You will generally find that the action of turning the WiFi on, then entering the public hotspot connection credentials will then make the WiFi the default transport.
If you have already previously paired and entered the credentials, then you should only need to turn WiFi on for it to be used.
Remember that WiFi goes off when the device goes into standby to save battery drain, but will come on again after a few seconds when the device is turned on again.
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Unless you want it to stay on when the phone goes into standby, for when you're downloading something large, for example. Then you can use something like WifiNoStandby (see my sig)

johncmolyneux said:
Unless you want it to stay on when the phone goes into standby, for when you're downloading something large, for example. Then you can use something like WifiNoStandby (see my sig)
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Ahh- nice one! That will please a few folk

NeilM said:
Ahh- nice one! That will please a few folk
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I aim to please

NeilM said:
Remember that WiFi goes off when the device goes into standby to save battery drain, but will come on again after a few seconds when the device is turned on again.
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My WiFi stays on even though the phone suspends; has done so out of the box since I got it. Has anyone figured out why some HTC HD2 does and some don't?

pphuck said:
My WiFi stays on even though the phone suspends; has done so out of the box since I got it. Has anyone figured out why some HTC HD2 does and some don't?
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It's actually a registry value that determines whether to keep the wifi on when the phone enters standby. If yours was like that out of the box then it had been set by someone else previously. This isn't default behaviour for any of the stock ROMs.

johncmolyneux said:
It's actually a registry value that determines whether to keep the wifi on when the phone enters standby. If yours was like that out of the box then it had been set by someone else previously. This isn't default behaviour for any of the stock ROMs.
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My HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\BCMSDDHD1\Parms\HTCKeepWifiOnWhenUnattended is set to 0 and WiFi still stays on when phone is suspended.

Sounds like a fault with your phone then. What if you wanted it to do the default behaviour and turn off wifi when in standby? You can't.

johncmolyneux said:
Sounds like a fault with your phone then. What if you wanted it to do the default behaviour and turn off wifi when in standby? You can't.
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Good point. I wouldn't.
Now, has anyone figured out why some HTC HD2's act like this, and some don't? I'd like to know in case this awesome functionality goes away one day when I install some intrusive application.