I currently have a BlackBerry Bold 9000 - come the start of February I will finally get my hands on an HD2...
I don't really use the wireless on my BlackBerry - so my question is this:
Does the HD2 select a Wifi connection over the 3G when I am in a place where I can use either? Does it know to stop using 3G when I am in connection distance to something like my home network?
This is probably a stupid question - I rarely ever surf using my BB since it just does not lend itself to this very well.
Thanks in advance for the feedback.
Scott
UberScooter said:
I currently have a BlackBerry Bold 9000 - come the start of February I will finally get my hands on an HD2...
I don't really use the wireless on my BlackBerry - so my question is this:
Does the HD2 select a Wifi connection over the 3G when I am in a place where I can use either? Does it know to stop using 3G when I am in connection distance to something like my home network?
This is probably a stupid question - I rarely ever surf using my BB since it just does not lend itself to this very well.
Thanks in advance for the feedback.
Scott
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If I've got my HD2 paired up with a wifi network and have the wifi turned on it will automatically choose this connection before anything else including 3G. However, I'm not sure about public wifi hotspots as I've not tried it.
That is what I was hoping was the answer - I suspect that should I connect to a public wifi spot that it would than take precedence over the 3G connection - this is a bit new to me. I will have a fairly good data bundle when I upgrade but it is nice to know.
Thanks
Scott
You will generally find that the action of turning the WiFi on, then entering the public hotspot connection credentials will then make the WiFi the default transport.
If you have already previously paired and entered the credentials, then you should only need to turn WiFi on for it to be used.
Remember that WiFi goes off when the device goes into standby to save battery drain, but will come on again after a few seconds when the device is turned on again.
NeilM said:
You will generally find that the action of turning the WiFi on, then entering the public hotspot connection credentials will then make the WiFi the default transport.
If you have already previously paired and entered the credentials, then you should only need to turn WiFi on for it to be used.
Remember that WiFi goes off when the device goes into standby to save battery drain, but will come on again after a few seconds when the device is turned on again.
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Unless you want it to stay on when the phone goes into standby, for when you're downloading something large, for example. Then you can use something like WifiNoStandby (see my sig)
johncmolyneux said:
Unless you want it to stay on when the phone goes into standby, for when you're downloading something large, for example. Then you can use something like WifiNoStandby (see my sig)
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Ahh- nice one! That will please a few folk
NeilM said:
Ahh- nice one! That will please a few folk
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I aim to please
NeilM said:
Remember that WiFi goes off when the device goes into standby to save battery drain, but will come on again after a few seconds when the device is turned on again.
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My WiFi stays on even though the phone suspends; has done so out of the box since I got it. Has anyone figured out why some HTC HD2 does and some don't?
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My WiFi stays on even though the phone suspends; has done so out of the box since I got it. Has anyone figured out why some HTC HD2 does and some don't?
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It's actually a registry value that determines whether to keep the wifi on when the phone enters standby. If yours was like that out of the box then it had been set by someone else previously. This isn't default behaviour for any of the stock ROMs.
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It's actually a registry value that determines whether to keep the wifi on when the phone enters standby. If yours was like that out of the box then it had been set by someone else previously. This isn't default behaviour for any of the stock ROMs.
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My HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\BCMSDDHD1\Parms\HTCKeepWifiOnWhenUnattended is set to 0 and WiFi still stays on when phone is suspended.
Sounds like a fault with your phone then. What if you wanted it to do the default behaviour and turn off wifi when in standby? You can't.
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Sounds like a fault with your phone then. What if you wanted it to do the default behaviour and turn off wifi when in standby? You can't.
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Good point. I wouldn't.
Now, has anyone figured out why some HTC HD2's act like this, and some don't? I'd like to know in case this awesome functionality goes away one day when I install some intrusive application.
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Anyone else noticed that the Jasjar will disconnect all network connections if you put in into standby for more than 5 mins?
my XDAII never did that and I keep my mesenger programs on all the time. The Jasjar drops me out after 5 mins of standby and its getting very annoying.
Anyone know if theres a hidden setting/registry setting i can force it to stay on? I dont have the dissconnect if not used checkbox checked for wireless and there doesnt seem to be one for GPRS/3G.
Thanks
Stot
Well it seems that its only doing this for my WiFi connection not GPRS/3G but its a pain in the posterior. Id like to recieve messages when in the warehouse on wifi and the unit is in standby :?
Stot
stot said:
Well it seems that its only doing this for my WiFi connection not GPRS/3G but its a pain in the posterior. Id like to recieve messages when in the warehouse on wifi and the unit is in standby :?
Stot
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Do you have the power saving set for the WiFi?
well the best I can do is slide the slider to the "best performance" end and make sure the turn off if not used checkbox isn't checked. its not actually turning off the wireless its just dropping connection til I open the device agiain then it re-connects
cheers
stot
stot said:
well the best I can do is slide the slider to the "best performance" end and make sure the turn off if not used checkbox isn't checked. its not actually turning off the wireless its just dropping connection til I open the device agiain then it re-connects
cheers
stot
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Hmmm I was quite sure my MDA Pro didn't do that. You're right - it certainly doesn't for 3G / GPRS. Quite possible to close the device and leave it, then come back a bit later and still be on MSN etc.
but I thought mine did it on WiFi too?
For the mobile signal time to time it try to pick wcdma instead of GSM if it doesnt find the WCDMA then it goes for GSM... after a while again it search for it...
You can disable this by going to Start-Settings-Personal-Phone & Then under Band u will find Auto which you can set it to GSM which will stay to GSM instead searching for WCDMA time to time...
well if you would like to give it a try Timetex, and anyone else, I'd love to know if its just me. make sure GPRS doesn't kick in, maybe turn off the phone. I'm using Jasjars 1.13 updated rom from clubimate.
Cheers
Stot
If anyone followed this and didnt like it either I came up with a work around.
I sent my power settings to NEVER turn off on battery. the Backlight still will but the unit doesnt. Now with the Jasjar we have a clam design and I dont know about you but when im not using it its closed, i.e. screen and backlight off.
Tested this all out today, on 3G and GPRS for 1/2 the day, WiFi the rest. Took a number of photos, listened to an album, made some phone calls. Average use. It lasted all day and still has 32% battery left. Plus when I open it up, BING its on every time and it stays connected to the WiFi.
Dont spose there are reg settings that decide what turns off when you close the clam?
Cya
Stot.
search for "GPRS always on" - it;s solved several times on this forum
Is it possible to never activate 3G or GPRS when I have WIFI on, (when I´m surfing for eample) regardless if I´m connected to a network or not?
It´s cost me a lot of money when I surf on the 3G.. So it´s not necessary when I´m close to a WIFI-network..
Regards!
My HD (a stock one) always automatically use Wifi when it's available, and 3G/GPRS otherwise. I got this behavior from day one, without any specific tweak.
Mine still uses GPRS or HSDPA sometimes when I am connected to wifi. Doesn't bother me though as I have unlimited web on my contract... I think its a bug
why not turn of the data when your at home or what not? Its in the communications settings... that might help? temp fix but better than nothing.
Cheeze[iT] said:
why not turn of the data when your at home or what not? Its in the communications settings... that might help? temp fix but better than nothing.
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If I do that, it just turns it back on! I think it is because it is continuously checking for email...
Coude said:
My HD (a stock one) always automatically use Wifi when it's available, and 3G/GPRS otherwise. I got this behavior from day one, without any specific tweak.
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Same here.
Coude said:
My HD (a stock one) always automatically use Wifi when it's available, and 3G/GPRS otherwise. I got this behavior from day one, without any specific tweak.
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have you actually checked this with an app like spb gprs monitor?
When using Opera, I have to disconnect GPRS/EDGE in order for it to use WiFi. Internet Explorer seems to use the WiFi automatically when it is connected.
hey guys quick question about the internet connection, ive never used android before, can you manually disconnect and connect the connection or does it work like the iphone where you have no control? also if it does work manually does it auto disconnect after closing apps?
On my phone, it prompts you to use wifi in the initial set up at which point it takes you to a menu screen. In this screen you enable wifi as well as connect to your network of choice. Now, Like the iPhone, when you leave the area your on, and come back, it automatically reconnects for you without any prompts.
Unlike the iPhone, it does not notify you (as of my experience thus far) of any available connects in your proximity.
Hope this helps you some. =)
Cheers,
Bryan
thanks mate, how are you finding the phone so far?
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Unlike the iPhone, it does not notify you (as of my experience thus far) of any available connects in your proximity.
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It does, theres an option to turn notifications on and off.
Hi,
I'm a Nexus One user, i'm tying APNDroid to lower my data traffic and I have a problem.
When switching to ON, internet does not up (but apn entries corrected to their normal values). When i reset the phone (or enter in flight mode and back to normal) internet works well.
I've tried also the widget Toggle Data with the same results.
Anyone with the same problem? Any possible solution?
Thanks in advance.
APNDriod works just fine here
It does note, however, that latent connections may not clear. So, if they never clear (so you reboot), you cant connect after toggling on
Dear All,
I've the similar experience. I'm using the 3G network in the street. When I back to home, I'll switch-off the 3G network that using the APNdroid and then switch on the Wifi. When I go out, I'll switch-off the Wifi and then open the 3G network again, but it's not work, until I restart the phone again. Is it the Wifi already allocate the resources that cannot release? or I need to make some changes in the phone setting?
Thanks a lot! :-D
skyline3 said:
Dear All,
I've the similar experience. I'm using the 3G network in the street. When I back to home, I'll switch-off the 3G network that using the APNdroid and then switch on the Wifi. When I go out, I'll switch-off the Wifi and then open the 3G network again, but it's not work, until I restart the phone again. Is it the Wifi already allocate the resources that cannot release? or I need to make some changes in the phone setting?
Thanks a lot! :-D
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I have seen a few people report the same thing - maybe report it to the developer? I don't really use mobile data at the moment, so it does not affect me.
it won't work immediately after I re-enable it, but give it 1 or 2 minutes then it will work again.
I actually have the same problem. Quite annoying. Hope a fix for this comes out soon.
I had the same problem.. and I notice no need to restart or reboot.
Just switch on the wifi and off again and while the APNDroid is on then the connection should be back on.
zita.c said:
I had the same problem.. and I notice no need to restart or reboot.
Just switch on the wifi and off again and while the APNDroid is on then the connection should be back on.
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I'll try this. Thanks!
zita.c said:
I had the same problem.. and I notice no need to restart or reboot.
Just switch on the wifi and off again and while the APNDroid is on then the connection should be back on.
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This didn't work for me today...
Normally it does.
I had to do a reboot until data connection worked again.
I have exactly the same problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623592
No solution yet...
same here!
even if I don't use apndroid, just going outside wlan area doesn't brings me 3g back (any connection), that's really bad
this morning switching on apndroid no connection came back within 20 min. After i switched flight mode it worked immediately.
Do all n1 users having this issue?
Cetin said:
same here!
even if I don't use apndroid, just going outside wlan area doesn't brings me 3g back (any connection), that's really bad
this morning switching on apndroid no connection came back within 20 min. After i switched flight mode it worked immediately.
Do all n1 users having this issue?
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Dont use this myself, but I wonder if the developer could add an optional toggle in/out of flight mode to fix this. that should terminate any existing connections too.
Dunno why really, but i dont have the issue, i have the same phone provider like LokoYaw and i dont have the problem.
Im using cyano5.0b3+kernel .29 highmem and no issues by now (and never with my magic too)
Bye all!
The wifi trick (turning it on/off) works well with me.
is this a software problem or N1 problem ?
before using APNDroid I manually edit APN to turn edge on/off and sometime experienced the same problem. Edge symbol just doesn't apprear, have to restart N1.
Anyway, thanks for the tip. I'll try change mode/turn wifi on-off to see what works for me.
I'm here to report that I suffer from the exact same problem, and have been mistaking it all day as the fault of my carrier's EDGE.
But toggling wi-fi on/off does work. Hooray.
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The wifi trick (turning it on/off) works well with me.
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Well, it WAS working fine, untill the update. Now it doesnt any more :S
The wifi trick sometimes works for me--it seems that if the phone doesn't detect any wifi in the area, then it doesn't work. Hit and miss. :/ And I really need the app, too, since like some of you I don't have an unlimited data plan.
Got the same issue here in Italy with TIM operator.
skyline3 said:
Dear All,
I've the similar experience. I'm using the 3G network in the street. When I back to home, I'll switch-off the 3G network that using the APNdroid and then switch on the Wifi. When I go out, I'll switch-off the Wifi and then open the 3G network again, but it's not work, until I restart the phone again. Is it the Wifi already allocate the resources that cannot release? or I need to make some changes in the phone setting?
Thanks a lot! :-D
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Dunno if you realise or not, but using APNDroid for this purpose is kinda pointless, Android shuts down the mobile data connection when it connects to a WLAN.
I don't know if it's only since my update to 3.1, but the Wifi Disconnect Policy doesn't seem to work.
I set it to Disconnect on Screen Off - but the pad is still tinkling away receiving email -- and still pingable across the WLAN.
Is anyone else finding this?
-Craig
Yes I'm pretty sure I see the same. It is hard to be 100% sure as the battery use data seems broken, but I've seen wireless activity almost constantly from the asus to my router when the screen is off.
I also have issues at time with connecting to a network, it loops trying to get an IP address, turning the wifi off then on solves that problem, but it is a pain to have to do that....
I use JuiceDefender to disable WiFi when screen is off. I had already bought it for my phone where I want my data to be off at night while I'm asleep, so it didn't cost me anything to use it on my Tablet also. There is a free version you can try with few settings/controls. The paid versions add additional settings/customizations.
Wi-Fi will disconnect from AP after screen off 15 mins when Wi-Fi disconnect policy is set to "When screen turns off".
It's Android behavior.
Aha! Having done more tests (and being more patient ) It does indeed turn off after 15mins..
Cool.
(Would have been better if the setting description wasn't misleading...)
Hi,
yes after further testing it does indeed seem to turn off eventually. However once it is off it seems to have problems re-connecting when you turn the device back on again. I typically have to disable/enable WiFi to get it to work. Anyone else seeing this?
gloomyandy said:
Hi,
yes after further testing it does indeed seem to turn off eventually. However once it is off it seems to have problems re-connecting when you turn the device back on again. I typically have to disable/enable WiFi to get it to work. Anyone else seeing this?
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Yup - on occasion. About 10% of the time. Seems to be when I move between two different SSIDs (i.e. when I get to the office, or when I return home)
Would be happy to investigate, if someone could point me at any log/debug info that's accessible...?
gloomyandy said:
Hi,
yes after further testing it does indeed seem to turn off eventually. However once it is off it seems to have problems re-connecting when you turn the device back on again. I typically have to disable/enable WiFi to get it to work. Anyone else seeing this?
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I get that too
I now have a widget to turn off wifi. I turn it off when the screen goes off so that it actually turns wifi off (doesn't seem to disconnect for me either), and to turn it back on when I start using it again because it never reconnects properly :S
I have the same problem too. It keeps saying trying to get an IP address. Even I have DHCP running on the router, I changed the setting of home wifi on TF to be static IP address. Now, it connects all the time when waking up from sleep.
Hope that helps (at least when you are home).
case0 said:
I get that too
I now have a widget to turn off wifi. I turn it off when the screen goes off so that it actually turns wifi off (doesn't seem to disconnect for me either), and to turn it back on when I start using it again because it never reconnects properly :S
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aiboxda said:
I have the same problem too. It keeps saying trying to get an IP address. Even I have DHCP running on the router, I changed the setting of home wifi on TF to be static IP address. Now, it connects all the time when waking up from sleep.
Hope that helps (at least when you are home).
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same here. its been happening since I got my TF (launch date) Where on the TF do I set static IP address on the TF?
Go to Wifi setup screen. Press and hold on the wifi network you want to change. Then select "Modify Network".
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same here. its been happening since I got my TF (launch date) Where on the TF do I set static IP address on the TF?
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Go to Wifi setup screen. Press and hold on the wifi network you want to change. Then select "Modify Network".
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Cool thanks.