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3G vs WiFi

Hi,
My HD2 always takes the 3G connection by default rather than the WiFi. I have changed the connections to take work connection by default for internet and work and it stills uses my 3G.
Any thoughts?

TMODAlpha said:
Hi,
My HD2 always takes the 3G connection by default rather than the WiFi. I have changed the connections to take work connection by default for internet and work and it stills uses my 3G.
Any thoughts?
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From what I've seen, it appears to use the best connection that's available at the time of starting an app. So if you start Opera and then turn on wifi, it's already started its connection so it doesn't change it. Does that make sense?
Mine, without fail, uses wifi over 3G, as long as it's on and connected before I start an app.

TMODAlpha said:
Hi,
My HD2 always takes the 3G connection by default rather than the WiFi. I have changed the connections to take work connection by default for internet and work and it stills uses my 3G.
Any thoughts?
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The only application that starts the 3G connection over the Wi-Fi is Windows Live. At least to me. All other applications use the "cheaper" connection. Therefore, if Wi-Fi is switched on, it will use this connection.

I had exactly the same problem, by messing around in the Connections settings I managed to eventually sort it out though I can not remember exactly how, sorry I can not be of more help

That makes sense thanks guys. Also, if my 3G is disabled, it automatically connects it even if its using WiFi then continues to use WiFi.
Any ideas?

TMODAlpha said:
That makes sense thanks guys. Also, if my 3G is disabled, it automatically connects it even if its using WiFi then continues to use WiFi.
Any ideas?
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Use, for example, the NoData application from MoDaCo. There's also another one in this forum with a TouchFlo layout. If you disable the 3G connection, it will force to use the WiFi.

That did the trick mate, Thanks

3G/Data Connection stability

Hello,
anyone has the same problem as mine? And maybe a fix
My problem is the stability of my 3G data connection. Sometimes it just hangs which means that it indicates that it is connected to 3G but when I try to sync my mail or browse to a page, it doesn't show anything and it timesout as it seems not to be connected.
I disconnect my data connection and connect again to fix the problem. I experience the problem when I leave my phone on standby for sometime.
If I have Opera running in the background, I have to exit it and start it again after the restarting data connection to be able to browse!!!
Anybody experience the same problem and maybe has a fix?

I sorta had this issue, but the phone kept switching from 3g to HDSPA and back again, not loading the web page during. So i disable HDSPA to force it only 3g. I dunno if if this is whats happening to you, but hey worth a shot no?

Where?
Where can I disable HDSPA ??

shemeri said:
Where can I disable HDSPA ??
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Start - Settings - Connections - Advanced Network
The tab that comes up, click on the drop down list and choose disable. Soft reset and see if your connection stabilises

thx
thanks, will try that

i Already try that but the problem persist i´m going to try with a diferent radio

I have this issue too, Its been on the last 3 radios I have used. Going to update to the latest one tonight

Have you guys tried disabling the proxy?
Settings - Connections - Connections
You will have your internet settings, and then My Work Network. Under your internet settings, click Edit my proxy server, and uncheck This network uses a proxy server to connect to the internet.
However the proxy server that already in there will dissapear, so write it down. But oddly, on my device, i cant edit it. i dunno, i guess if something goes wrong, just run the connections setup again.

This is a known issue without a solution at this point.
Here's the main thread discussing it, 30+ pages of trial & error:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614119

seems working
the_cool said:
Start - Settings - Connections - Advanced Network
The tab that comes up, click on the drop down list and choose disable. Soft reset and see if your connection stabilises
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It seems to be working when disabling HDSPA!! No connection problems so far

Yes, but you're also not getting 3G...

yep
I am getting 3G!

He's getting 3g but not 3.5G which is usually faster speeds.

Wil Badger said:
He's getting 3g but not 3.5G which is usually faster speeds.
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What is that option to disable HDSPA?
Last time I tried, I was only getting edge, and not 3G

darkphantom said:
What is that option to disable HDSPA?
Last time I tried, I was only getting edge, and not 3G
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I posted it early up. read the thread dude it only disables hdspa, its not the same as the 3g switcher in the comms manager, that turns off 3g entirely
to the OP, glad it worked however, my internet started workin a few weeks later with hsdpa, could be due to a better radio that i flashed. so if u flash a new radio, hdspa might still work better so be sure to test it out!

Atrix Google Market Activates HSPA+ Data While on Wifi, Causes Wifi to Stop Working

UPDATE: When comparing to my coworker's phone (who doesn't have this problem), we went through all settings/etc and matched them up exactly. The only major difference between our two phones was that I was running Launcher Pro. When I uninstalled it, this problem went away completely. HSPA+ did get activated in the Google Market, but it didn't hinder my browsing experience. Anyone else having this issue, are you running Launcher Pro? And if so, if you uninstall it, does it fix the problem?
I know that there is an ongoing issue that Motorola is looking into concerning HSPA+ data connectivity dropping out. This is not that issue.
Here's the scenario:
- Atrix 4G purchased on release date
- Using 4G SIM card
- No SIM unlocks
- Have 4Gig Tethering plan
- Set to AT&T US HSDPA APN (have tried AT&T US Tether and AT&T US wap.cingular)
- Connected to Wifi
- Issue occurred prior to rooting and after rooting.
- Issue has occurred since day 1 of using device.
Issue: Launching Google Market and browsing around will eventually start showing connection timeouts, typically after looking in a few app descriptions.
What I notice:
- When connected to wifi, the cell data connection gets turned off (i.e. the grey up/down arrows are no longer showing). I assume this is how it is supposed to work (since if on wifi, no need for cell data connection).
- When launching the Google Market application, and after browsing for a few seconds, I notice the cell data connection doing something (grey arrows come back, and then will briefly show black arrows, then back to grey).
- Once the issue occurs, I attempt to browse in Dolphin or even the XDA application, and it doesn't connect.
- Turning wifi off then back on fixes wifi until I try Google Market again.
- Turning cell data off allows Google Market to work fine with no issue.
Thoughts:
- It seems that when connected to wifi, the cell data connection should be getting overridden regardless.
- Somehow Google Market is causing the cell data connection to activate and messing up wifi
- This happened on a 3G SIM and a 4G SIM (so it doesn't seem like a connection problem, simply a software issue)
- I have a coworker who has an Atrix as well and does not have this problem when connected to wifi
- I have other devices connected to the same wifi without issue (thus not a wifi router issue)
Any and all help is truly appreciated and thank you in advance!

Nice first post and seems pretty accurate. I switched on airplane mode and then just enabled wifi to test this out and had a zen-like market experience. Not a single hang up. Hopefully this will help lead to a fix. Thanks.

Have you tried switching off your data connection before connecting to wifi?

I had a similar issue where my wifi would be on simultaneously with my data connection so I just hit airplane mode whil wifi was on that turned off both wifi and data then I re-enabled wifi (airplane mode still on) waited for it to connect then I turned airplane mode off. Never had the issue again
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Hopefully motorola looks into this as this is my only true gripe at the moment. I go to dl an app and it stops at a random percentage, I go back into market and see the app is paused. I cancel and Redownload and usually works. I also get a timeout error almost every time I go into market and have to choose retry or close.

bl0wf1sh said:
Have you tried switching off your data connection before connecting to wifi?
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Turning off data connection does solve the problem, however that is only a stop-gap and I have to leave the data connection off (then remember to turn it back on when I leave my wifi area). No other application I use has this issue, so I would expect it's a software problem, but it doesn't seem to affect every Atrix owner.
drock212 said:
I had a similar issue where my wifi would be on simultaneously with my data connection so I just hit airplane mode whil wifi was on that turned off both wifi and data then I re-enabled wifi (airplane mode still on) waited for it to connect then I turned airplane mode off. Never had the issue again
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Yeah I've done that too, sadly it still crops up for me.
skillz9669 said:
Hopefully motorola looks into this as this is my only true gripe at the moment. I go to dl an app and it stops at a random percentage, I go back into market and see the app is paused. I cancel and Redownload and usually works. I also get a timeout error almost every time I go into market and have to choose retry or close.
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Exactly, those are my experiences as well when on wifi with cell data not explicitly turned off.

UPDATE: Turns out that when factory resetting, the market app when first run works perfectly (doesn't try to activate cell data when on wifi). The problem is that the market app auto-updates to a version that has this problem.
Here's hoping for a fix soon. Thankfully Juice Defender gives me an automatic way to handle the cell data issue since when it detects it's on wifi, it turns off cell data so I don't have to.

Update
I posted an update in the original post. It seems Launcher Pro was the culprit.

3g fallback for internet on wifi?

So I'm having trouble with getting wifi how I want it on my phone. At work we have a unsecured WAP with a web based authentication page. Trouble if you ever use it, it remembers the WAP and wants to login, but unless you you goto the web page, you have no internet. This is particularly a problem when wifi sleeps and looses connection.
The big issue with this is that my phone assumes it has internet when it doesn't. It doesn't fall back to 3g on failure to connect. That means I will not get texts for hours, facebook won't update, etc, etc.
Is there a way to force the phone to fall back to 3g when it fails to connect via wifi? Alternately is there an app that will parse a wifi login page and auto login for me? I'm running clean GB right now.

Geekybiker said:
So I'm having trouble with getting wifi how I want it on my phone. At work we have a unsecured WAP with a web based authentication page. Trouble if you ever use it, it remembers the WAP and wants to login, but unless you you goto the web page, you have no internet. This is particularly a problem when wifi sleeps and looses connection.
The big issue with this is that my phone assumes it has internet when it doesn't. It doesn't fall back to 3g on failure to connect. That means I will not get texts for hours, facebook won't update, etc, etc.
Is there a way to force the phone to fall back to 3g when it fails to connect via wifi? Alternately is there an app that will parse a wifi login page and auto login for me? I'm running clean GB right now.
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If wifi was active it should stay active there is an option to keep wifi on in the settings that way it wont go turn off/ go to sleep while its connected. Change the wifi sleep policy this will keep it from "disconnecting".
Settings>wireless & networks> wifi settings> press the menu button advanced> wifi sleep policy> Never

Geekybiker said:
So I'm having trouble with getting wifi how I want it on my phone. At work we have a unsecured WAP with a web based authentication page. Trouble if you ever use it, it remembers the WAP and wants to login, but unless you you goto the web page, you have no internet. This is particularly a problem when wifi sleeps and looses connection.
The big issue with this is that my phone assumes it has internet when it doesn't. It doesn't fall back to 3g on failure to connect. That means I will not get texts for hours, facebook won't update, etc, etc.
Is there a way to force the phone to fall back to 3g when it fails to connect via wifi? Alternately is there an app that will parse a wifi login page and auto login for me? I'm running clean GB right now.
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Yep like Big Goron said and my School has that thing to web authentication

Big Goron said:
If wifi was active it should stay active there is an option to keep wifi on in the settings that way it wont go turn off/ go to sleep while its connected. Change the wifi sleep policy this will keep it from "disconnecting".
Settings>wireless & networks> wifi settings> press the menu button advanced> wifi sleep policy> Never
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That's not the big problem though. If I lose connection (easy enough with out concrete walls and walking around) or simply don't login in first thing in the morning I still have the issue.
I either need a fallback to 3g or a way to auto login.

Geekybiker said:
That's not the big problem though. If I lose connection (easy enough with out concrete walls and walking around) or simply don't login in first thing in the morning I still have the issue.
I either need a fallback to 3g or a way to auto login.
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well i can tell you what i use Juice Defender and When WiFi is once it goes off my data kicks in so yeah that's my fallback to 3G so you could give that ago if you want.

IMO
Juice Defender= Battery Drainer and waste of money when i can do what it does manually.
To the OP:
the phone should automatically go back to 3g when wifi disconnects i just tested this with my router i had it connected then pull the plug and it went to 3g.

Big Goron said:
IMO
Juice Defender= Battery Drainer and waste of money when i can do what it does manually.
To the OP:
the phone should automatically go back to 3g when wifi disconnects i just tested this with my router i had it connected then pull the plug and it went to 3g.
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ive done some tests without JD also helps in other areas BTW, and to let you know i put JD on Extreme and let no apps get data unless i manually toggle data and i can tell that my battery lasts much longer by at least by a few hours but still helps rather than my data always being funny randomly connecting and disconnecting to 3G or even if it was off JD does help.

Big Goron said:
IMO
Juice Defender= Battery Drainer and waste of money when i can do what it does manually.
To the OP:
the phone should automatically go back to 3g when wifi disconnects i just tested this with my router i had it connected then pull the plug and it went to 3g.
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It does when it disconnects, however since the wifi point is open it auto connects every time it picks it up again. Aside from manually forgetting the wifi point all the time, there doesn't appear to be a way to stop this. Connecting remembers it. Its not that I can't get around this manually, but its really annoying.

You could probably do something with a tasker profile. I don't know how to do it but they have a bunch of examples on their site that may help.

Geekybiker said:
It does when it disconnects, however since the wifi point is open it auto connects every time it picks it up again. Aside from manually forgetting the wifi point all the time, there doesn't appear to be a way to stop this. Connecting remembers it. Its not that I can't get around this manually, but its really annoying.
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I see your problem. You may be able to do this using scripting. The closest thing I have ever done like this is write a script that logged into my cable modem admin page automatically and grabbed the signal strength to log it. I used PHP (command line interpreter) but I would think any language should be capable of submitting data via a post request. Mine was triggered by cron. You would need to trigger on a successful wifi connection, check the ssid, and go from there. I dont know enough details about how that part is done to be helpful, but I know there are some apps that do detect active wifi connections (samba comes to mind) so it must be possible.
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Good suggestions so far, u could also try spare parts wifi sleep policy settings..
It might also be something where the connection on the wifi network's (not your phone's) end times out, in which case I'm not sure what to tell u.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA

Geekybiker said:
It does when it disconnects, however since the wifi point is open it auto connects every time it picks it up again. Aside from manually forgetting the wifi point all the time, there doesn't appear to be a way to stop this. Connecting remembers it. Its not that I can't get around this manually, but its really annoying.
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DON'T USE THEIR WIFI! Problem solved.

WIFI to Mobile Network switch not working (H990ds)

Hi guys i got my Lg V20 (H990ds) a week ago, but i just got the nanosim from two days.
Now i did notice that when I go out from home and I turn off the wifi the mobile data doesn't work at all. I can make phone calls and i can see the signal bar indicating 4G or 3G but there is not a really data connection, just like the phone is not capable of exchange any internet data (trough browser or apps).
And i did notice too that this issue it solves with just rebooting the phone.
So my question is, can be a software related problem? or I got i faulty unit?
Thanks

Try to reset network setting

Fz'Rot said:
Try to reset network setting
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I already did it and also a factory reset from settings, but nothing

But you can access to internet after restarting the phone?

Fz'Rot said:
But you can access to internet after restarting the phone?
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Yes, every time after I turn off the wifi, the mobile data doesn't work until I restart the phone

I just found out another thing, only if I select gsm/wcdma network mode the mobile data works after turn off the wifi, it seems that the problem is present only with the gsm/wcdma/LTE option. Any ideas?