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switching off GPRS but not GSM

Another dumb question I'm sure but heh thats what this place is for, so those who know can tell those of us who dont!
How do I turn of the GPRS element of the wireless radio but still leave the phone on. On my XDA 1 I'd dial up via gprs for emai/web then when I'd finished I'd disconnect, leaving the GSMN phone on in the background. with the II when I dial up via gprs the only way to disconnect is to turn the whole 'wireless radio' off then turn the phone back on...not ideal.
Or am I missing the point!

it's the same on XDA I with WM2003 ... you can press the red button for 3 seconds and the GPRS will be down leaving the phone running ... or you can use this nice s/w http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/default.htm
Good luck ...

Turning off GPRS
To turn off GPRS Point and Hold your stylus on the O2 icon until your connection settings pop out and untick the connection.
Hope this Help.

How to disconnect the "Always On' GPRS in WM2003

Some questions about the "ALWAYS ON" GPRS connection in WM2003 (device = imate aka XDA II)
1. Does it consume extra battery life if the GPRS is alawys on?
2. When I'm connected but not actively doing anything (upload/download), does the device keep communicating with the service provider? i.e. sending control information back and forth even when i am actively not using it?
3. If the GPRS connection is active, are there any chances my phone reception or the phone's ability to get a phone call/SMS/MMS is adversely affected? I dont want people not to be able to contact me or send sms/mms because my phone is always connected on GPRS.
4. Once the GPRS connection is made, and i'm done doing my "thing", how do I disconnect? Cause currently I have no way of disconnecting.

1 yes like your phone use more power when you speak in your phone it use lot more power then not using it
2 a bit not too much
3 it should not
4 www.GB-SOFT.cz/xdaII should add some features

humayunl said:
Some questions about the "ALWAYS ON" GPRS connection in WM2003 (device = imate aka XDA II)
4. Once the GPRS connection is made, and i'm done doing my "thing", how do I disconnect? Cause currently I have no way of disconnecting.
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Press and hold the Red Disconnect button for several seconds (Approx. 3 Sec) and it will disconnect.
Dustoff

humayunl said:
Some questions about the "ALWAYS ON" GPRS connection in WM2003 (device = imate aka XDA II)
4. Once the GPRS connection is made, and i'm done doing my "thing", how do I disconnect? Cause currently I have no way of disconnecting.
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Press and hold the Red Disconnect button for several seconds (Approx. 3 Sec) and it will disconnect.
Dustoff

Mind you, I use an MDA I.
as far as I know, the only way to get off and stay off GPRS is to go to settings->system->memmory->running programs and close anything that might use it (mailbox, IE, etc...)
If the signal indicator says it's connected to GPRS, then yes, you are actively connected to the tower/cell network. Sending info constantly, I don't know?????
GPRS effecting other network connectiveity???? I've heard yay and nay and have no professional opinion. Personally, I have no problems recieving a call, sms, etc... while connected to GPRS.
As far as power consumption, I would assume yes, it sucks up power. I have noticed about a 15% increase in power consumption using the web for an hour or so per day as well as automaticly checking email once every 45 minutes.
I also recently discovered a beautiful little prog that I cooked into my MDA I OS. PocketNav. It allows you to switch programs, close certain ones with only two "clicks", or all the progs at once, etc.... Check it out!!! It will be worth your time (I don't know where to get it other than stephan's kitchen).
Good luck!

gsm and sms should disable grps while it's using the band
but not cause problems
there is also the program PHM task manager
which is pretty much a copy of the task manager in windows 2k and xp so if people know and like that then it's a good program

Dustoff said:
humayunl said:
Some questions about the "ALWAYS ON" GPRS connection in WM2003 (device = imate aka XDA II)
4. Once the GPRS connection is made, and i'm done doing my "thing", how do I disconnect? Cause currently I have no way of disconnecting.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Press and hold the Red Disconnect button for several seconds (Approx. 3 Sec) and it will disconnect.
Dustoff
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He Dustoff,
Great stuff! Worked fine for me. Thanks.
Ronald

Dustoff,
Where is the Red dsiconnect button I am supposed to press and hold?
I am using WM2003 and after Iam connected, i havent been able to find any place where there is any disconnect option. in the connection bubble all i can see is that i am "connected" but there is nowhere for me to disconnect.
Can you please let me know where you find this disconnect option.
thanks

Red disconnect button
It is simply the red button of the telephone.
On another hand, if someone calls you exactly in the same moment when yours GPRS is fully active downloading something (a big picture, a long message, ...), you may appear as "unavailable"

Rudegar said:
4 www.GB-SOFT.cz/xdaII should add some features
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Hi.
I have not tried the above software yet, but here is the problem I have...
I use Wi-Fi a lot at home and quite often keep the Wi-Fi on and use WiFiFoFum away from home. I have managed to set up my pay as you go GPRS connection. But whenever I'm away from a Wi-Fi network the GPRS connects and my applications then access the internet.
There needs to be an option of "not connecting gprs automatically when there is no Wi-Fi connection."
What I have had to do is change one of the setting for the gprs so it cant connect, and I have to change it back when I need it.
Switching from Wi-Fi to gprs can cost a lot if things connect without me knowing. It costs £3 for a months use of 1Mb.
Regards,
Ian Watson

creating a phantom connection, and "picking" it as default may be slightly quicker than changing the settings of you primary connection.

I think holding down the HANGUP/STOP button for 2-3 seconds is the fastest and easiest way.

interestingfellow said:
creating a phantom connection, and "picking" it as default may be slightly quicker than changing the settings of you primary connection.
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I have found where I can stop it from connecting the GPRS if it cant get a wi-fi conncetion. Connections icon on the connections tab, then the advanced tab, then the select networks button - "programs that automaticall connect to the internet..........". I have changed this from gprs to my isp.
Ian

xda2i... Gprs always on??

I have just recently got a Xda2i.
Every time I turn it on, i find the gprs enabled.
I have had my old xda2 for more than a year now and this has never happened before.
I am just worried that I am gong to get a shock on my next bill. :shock:
I know that it may use a few bytes here and there, but it tends to add up after a while.
The only way I can stop it from doing this is to go into flight mode. Whats the point of having a xda if the phone is always off? :?
maybe I have changed some gprs settings?
Concerned,
Frogger

The "G" sign at the top of the screen does not mean you are connected to GPRS all the time.
It simply means you are in a GPRS area of the network, so GPRS is available when you need it and connect by tapping the "G" symbol.

lydiachris, or maybe someone else can tell me how to make a disconnect after I've get connected to the Internet over GPRS. In WM2003 (not SE) there is a button Disconnect, but in 2003 SE there is only Hide button... so How can I disconnect from GPRS without tourning on Flight Mode?
Exept Press and hold Hang up Button. :roll:

Hi Lydiachris, please could you tell me where to get hold of the "I-Mate PDA2 ROM:v 1.11.144 WWE " rom. I have looked everywhere and can't seem to find a link. Cheers...

Frogger said:
I have just recently got a Xda2i.
Every time I turn it on, i find the gprs enabled.
I have had my old xda2 for more than a year now and this has never happened before.
I am just worried that I am gong to get a shock on my next bill. :shock:
I know that it may use a few bytes here and there, but it tends to add up after a while.
The only way I can stop it from doing this is to go into flight mode. Whats the point of having a xda if the phone is always off? :?
maybe I have changed some gprs settings?
Concerned,
Frogger
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I think if you hold down the hang up button it disconnects the gprs,
it had me wondering for a while.
R

GeoKVANt said:
lydiachris, or maybe someone else can tell me how to make a disconnect after I've get connected to the Internet over GPRS. In WM2003 (not SE) there is a button Disconnect, but in 2003 SE there is only Hide button... so How can I disconnect from GPRS without tourning on Flight Mode?
Exept Press and hold Hang up Button. :roll:
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But there ist no other way without extra software. PhoneAlarm 1.22 for example brings back the diconnect-button. Or use the taskbar-icon from SPB GPRS-monitor, it also got a gprs disconnect button and shows you all gprs stats. But only the full version does that, not that gprs-monitor coming from exROM (T-Mobile).

Here is very good application it adds missing disconnect button and few more options just place it in windows folder make soft reset and go to settings/system/GB-SOFT Tweak enjoy :wink:

GPRS wont disconnect after MMS

This is becoming a problem and im dreading my phone bill when it comes through. If someone sends me an MMS the phone auto connects to GPRS and downloads the image. Not a problem there, the problem is that after downloading the image the connection doesnt disconnect. Now unless i remember to disconnect it, it stays connected running up my bill. The same goes for when i send an image it connects but wont disconnect after it sents. I would have thought this would have been a standard option as it is with normal phones. I cant always remember to manually disconnect the GPRS everytime. Anyone got any info on this please?

Either hold down the "End call" button for a few seconds to disconnect or tap the icon and choose disconnect. Shouldn't worry though as the beauty of GPRS is you only pay for data transfer, not to be connected.
You can leave it connected 24x7 with no charge, you only pay when you transfer data. I used to be abit unsure about this when I got my first GPRS phone about 5 years ago - rang O2 and they confirmed it.

You can leave it connected 24x7 with no charge, you only pay when you transfer data. I used to be abit unsure about this when I got my first GPRS phone about 5 years ago - rang O2 and they confirmed it.
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Good to know - thanks for the info :wink:

hey, thanks for that info, i managed to talk to O2 and they confirmed that you dont get charged for having GPRS on unless you use it. Thanks again.

You can also try this great freeware utility that lets you set automatic disconnect timeouts for GPRS:
GB-SOFT GPRS & Audio Tweak
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm

How can i turn GPRS off?

My vario randomly connects to GPRS without asking me, i suspect this will be costing me on my bill, so I'd like to turn it off. How do i do that?

my XDA mini s does the same. But it is a WM problem. Let me describe my common situation.
Connected to Wifi, running MSN Messenger. Left device for a while and it went sleeping. It also turns off Wifi! But then when MSN needs to connect in the background, it goes to GPRS!! When I wake up my device, it has already used GPRS for MSN and when it wakes, it tries to connect back to my Wifi!!!!
I'm on roaming so the GPRS is dear-er.
Best way, is to create a null modem, or invalid connection. Set your device to connect to that null connection automatically when requesting for internet access. Not the best, but at least it won't cost you or me.

The thing is it does it when I'm not even doing anything, it just pops that gprs icon up and does its own thing.
OK I didnt quite follow what you said there, so imagine I'm an idiot who dosent understand what a null connection is, then explain it to me again....

Long press hang-down key.... (2-3 sec)

so imagine I'm an idiot who dosent understand what a null connection is, then explain it to me again....[/quote]
lol like your response,
I do agree with Humps, dont know of a way to turn of the gprs but his way does ensure it wont connect on its own.
when you goto settings/connections/connections (this is wm2003 that i refer to) you will see your t-mobile settings.
and the options to manage existing connections. go into here and create a new connection give it anyname you want (you want it not to work) give it any settings it will accept that are wrong,
then from the connections page at the bottom you have tasks and advanced.
when you want GPRS active goto advanced and select t-mobile
when you dont want it to be able to connect go back to the advanced screen and select the dodgy one you just created.
then if it tries to connect the settings will all be wrong and it will fail.
good plan.

I really wish it would ask permission to go online with gprs...personally I changed the name of the access point in my o2 settings, so it can't connect until I change it back to the proper name.
John

Pixel69 said:
Long press hang-down key.... (2-3 sec)
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Even after a 30 second press, it still stays connected with the 'G' icon in the top of the screen.
I've tried setting up a new GPRS called dummy, so I'll se how it goes.

Is it the big [G] icon, or the small G with arrows around it?
Because the former just means that GPRS is available - only the latter means that you're connected to it.

you want to give SPB GPRS Monitor a try, even if only for the trial it will let you know if its using any while its idle,
good app would be well worth keeping in it.